Easy W/Mes UW SOLO Full Guide =]

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by novawhiz
So i cant use this build because i dont have faction skills?.... Correct. sucks, doesn't it?

novawhiz

novawhiz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

A/

Yes very much so.

Nickhimself

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Your face

True Gods Of War [True]

W/Mo

Go buy Factions.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nickhimself
Go buy Factions. Not everyone has enough money.

DOCB22

DOCB22

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

[SGC]

wouldnt Enraging Charge work better than sprint for those of us that have Nightfall.
Enraging Charge(Nightfall)
Stance. For 5...13 seconds, you move 25% faster. Enraging Charge ends when you successfully strike a target, at which point you gain 1...3 strikes of adrenaline.

I use it all the time with the W/Rt build works great

brute blake

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

NSW, Australia

International Moa Society [Moa]

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Hmm I cleard first chamber(pulled the groups induvidually just so I could get used to it) but my sprint ran out at the last Aataxe spawn when running to the Coldies down i went :'(

Next run i tried to aggro the to Darkness groups on the left stairs but didnt have enough energy to srpint away after all the fear me's!

Great build mate I just need a little practice

--- Edit---
Ohh Enrageing Charge sounds nice!

Ecksor

Ecksor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

kkthnxbai

Knights And Heroes [Beer]

Oh baby! I just did a full smite run on my dervish lol. I'm uploading the picture now. The picture has all the info for the build on it.

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5...dervishmo5.jpg

Welp, there it is. Probably gonna be reduced to thumbnail but oh well XD.
I'll get your guys' opinion if I should make a guide on it or not.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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How fast was it? The 2 minute cooldown on AoB makes it sound long.

Muk Utep

Muk Utep

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Good job on the build and so on, but may I suggest being a bit more thorough with spelling and such? Also, please supply the full name of skills, not just "2x visage". Most people probably know what you mean, but it really looks a lot better when it doesn't look like some notes you just jotted down. No offense.

Ecksor

Ecksor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

kkthnxbai

Knights And Heroes [Beer]

Well, my friend and I in ventrilo were talking the whole time, so I kind of lost track of time. He says that I was in there 20-30 minutes, though, so that's what I'm going with. The skill set is:
1. Faithful Intervention
2. Mystic Vigor
3. Avatar of Balthazar
4. Eremite's Attack
5. Mystic Sweep
6. Sympathetic Visage
7. Ancestor's Visage
8. Physical Resistance

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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20-30 seems nice. Make a thread about it, we're getting sort of off topic here.

Just Another Dude

Just Another Dude

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Its doable without factions if you use Echo I think... helps with the sprint actually... but it seems like its a bit harder... I duno, I only did it once and i guess I made it decently far for a 1st attempt.. died on a double group of smites o.O I also didnt use the exact armor/skillpoints cus i didnt wanna buy new armor and runes..

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

uploading Video will be done in a while

Avatara

Avatara

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

You are right we might as well use enraging charge instead of sprint.

whirling axe
counterattack
flail
ancestor's visage
sympathic visage
dolyak signet
healing sig
raging charge

Raging charge helps building up the initial adran to start with flail straigth away. I think this build is pretty much as optimal as it can get. The killing speed is really really nice.

Dreikki

Dreikki

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Kemi, Finland.

Pirates of the Searing [YoHo]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by novawhiz
Tell me what runes for a 55er can cost 250K. When 55 build was found, sup runes were like 20k-70k each. But then people started farming tengu and trolls, getting superior runes and lowering the prices. When factions was released, sup rune prices were so low that people don't bother even farming them anymore.

JC68

JC68

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Slovakia

DVD Forums [DVDF]

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very nice and funny build to play, it takes me about 25-30 mins. only wrong thing is that so far (i completed 3 runs so far) i got shit drops, no ecto and about 2-3k from loot (-1k as entrance fee gives me about 1-2k for run )

but i am gonna to try another runs and hope will get some nice drops later

Avatara

Avatara

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by JC68
very nice and funny build to play, it takes me about 25-30 mins. only wrong thing is that so far (i completed 3 runs so far) i got shit drops, no ecto and about 2-3k from loot (-1k as entrance fee gives me about 1-2k for run )

but i am gonna to try another runs and hope will get some nice drops later It might help to take 3 heros and 4 henchies and let them die at the start. They will be out of range by the time you're killing smites; so they wont get any loot.

Splatter Mcnasty

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Utah

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
How fast was it? The 2 minute cooldown on AoB makes it sound long. The 2 minute cool-down starts when you activate the skill, which means you'll be in the form for 67 seconds at Mysticism 13. Only 53 seconds in your natual dervish body while you wait for AoB to become available again.

JC68

JC68

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Slovakia

DVD Forums [DVDF]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Avatara
It might help to take 3 heros and 4 henchies and let them die at the start. They will be out of range by the time you're killing smites; so they wont get any loot. henchies aren´t allowed to UW (or they weren´t allowed in past) but i will try with heros...

ok after run with henchies i finally get gold drop and even 1 ecto :P
but bad thing is that gold loot is still shared to whole party so instead of 1,2k i get 300g. I am gonna to try other runs with/without heros and will post results

before going to bed i manage to have last run today and this one was very lucky, got 2 ectos + stuff, and tot profit from this one for 18k in about 30 minutes, which is very nice...

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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With a few tweaks, this build is...crazy.

14 Axe
8 Tactics
11 Strength
9 Illusion
1 Insparation

AV
SV
Phys Res
Dolyak Signet
Whirling Axe
Counter Attack
Healing Signet
Sprint

You take 0's, and since Whirling is your only adrenal skill, you can non stop spam it. You could probably replace HS with Flail and take all points out of tactics and put into Axe.

Anyways, use a zealous axe (must), against the Darkness' you don't have to use PR. Against smites just put up enchant, PR and DS, and go crazy.

Anger Problems

Anger Problems

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
Why does no one kill the aatxe? No love for the bulls. Is it still possible with Warrior after the sneaky body-blocking nerf?

Bloodied Blade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anger Problems
Is it still possible with Warrior after the sneaky body-blocking nerf? I have a friend who can still do it as a W/E (non-Armor of Earth), but he says it's difficult enough now that it really isn't worth it to kill them anymore & that he just skips to the smites.

TeeJay

TeeJay

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Netherlands

OBE

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In my experience the ecto drop rate is better if you kill (almost) all aaxtes and smites. I have done 3 runs so far with Mo/Me scythe build and gotten 3 ectos everytime. Sure the aaxtes go slow with IW but the grasps and smites go down very very easy. Also have I read some of the posts in this thread and I keep hearing from people that they don't get a single ecto. So it might be true that the ecto droprate will be higher when you kill all aaxtes and smites. For people that don't understand this: If you kill all the aaxtes in the beginning you will have more chance of gettig an ecto at the smites. Also, if you go back after doing the smites and kill some remaining aaxtes in other chambers the chance on ecto will be fairly high. I've heard of multiple people saying this so I didn't just make this up.

Greetz TeeJay

Anarion Silverhand

Anarion Silverhand

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Denmark

None

Quote:
Originally Posted by TeeJay
In my experience the ecto drop rate is better if you kill (almost) all aaxtes and smites. I would think it was obvious that you have a higher chance of getting an ecto if you kill more enemies...

Jumping Is Uselss

Jumping Is Uselss

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

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Is it just me, but when I timed the W/mes vs. W/rit farming build it seems that they both take 30mins to complete one run. I perfer the W/rit because you practically use any armor and weapons.

TeeJay

TeeJay

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Netherlands

OBE

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anarion Silverhand
I would think it was obvious that you have a higher chance of getting an ecto if you kill more enemies... You'll have a higher chance PER every Aaxte or Smite. So the percentage of the ecto chance will be higher with every enemie.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumping Is Uselss
Is it just me, but when I timed the W/mes vs. W/rit farming build it seems that they both take 30mins to complete one run. I perfer the W/rit because you practically use any armor and weapons. I've altered the build..... my run last night took 19mins (yes all smites)

making vid of getting to smites and changing orignal post soon

2112

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
With a few tweaks, this build is...crazy.

14 Axe
8 Tactics
11 Strength
9 Illusion
2 Insparation

AV
SV
Phys Res
Dolyak Signet
Whirling Axe
Counter Attack
Healing Signet
Sprint

You take 0's, and since Whirling is your only adrenal skill, you can non stop spam it. You could probably replace HS with Flail and take all points out of tactics and put into Axe.

Anyways, use a zealous axe (must), against the Darkness' you don't have to use PR. Against smites just put up enchant, PR and DS, and go crazy. Think triple chop would be a good skill to add in there? Was looking at it and with such a high amount of axe mastery it looks like it'd do some good.

Bewn

Bewn

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/

Well, first of all GREAT job on this build. I've always been a fan of your farming-guides. Remember your mineral springs farming guide about a year ago? I LOVED it...

Anyway, on topic:

Given the input in this thread I tweaked this build a little and currentliy I'm using this

[skill]Enraging Charge[/skill][skill]Ancestor's Visage[/skill][skill]Sympathetic Visage[/skill][skill]Flail[/skill][skill]Quivering Blade[/skill][skill]Counterattack[/skill][skill]Dolyak Signet[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill]

See it as an alternative using sword, works like a charm

Cheers!

schmoky

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

you tryed it???works it in chaos planes?:P

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bewn
Well, first of all GREAT job on this build. I've always been a fan of your farming-guides. Remember your mineral springs farming guide about a year ago? I LOVED it...

Anyway, on topic:

Given the input in this thread I tweaked this build a little and currentliy I'm using this

[skill]Enraging Charge[/skill][skill]Ancestor's Visage[/skill][skill]Sympathetic Visage[/skill][skill]Flail[/skill][skill]Quivering Blade[/skill][skill]Counterattack[/skill][skill]Dolyak Signet[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill]

See it as an alternative using sword, works like a charm

Cheers! ....*yet again wants to buy nightfall...need mooonaay*


damn thats an advantage =]

Loshi

Loshi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

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Could you maybe repost that other picture with instructions? For those of us who can't view videos.

As for attributes,. your seem to fluctuate drastically. Could you maybe give more concrete suggestion for atts, instead of 9+, Rest in Str? Like, whats a good minimum for Str?

With 11 Illus and 8 Insp, there can't be many Str pts left for Dolyak.... And 8 pts into Insp seems like a monstrous waste.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2112
Think triple chop would be a good skill to add in there? Was looking at it and with such a high amount of axe mastery it looks like it'd do some good. Triple Axe and Whirling Axe are both elites. Since Whirling is much more spammable then Triple, it' better. It's the best elite to use in the build imo.

zeroxy

zeroxy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Dark Angels of Rising Chaos [DaRc]

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Having trouble aggroing grasping darknesses, wasted 3k so far
So I cast SV first, followed by sprint then I aggro with bow and run away?

Edit: Got it! The trick is activating sv and sprint before you aggro

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loshi
Could you maybe repost that other picture with instructions? For those of us who can't view videos.

As for attributes,. your seem to fluctuate drastically. Could you maybe give more concrete suggestion for atts, instead of 9+, Rest in Str? Like, whats a good minimum for Str?

With 11 Illus and 8 Insp, there can't be many Str pts left for Dolyak.... And 8 pts into Insp seems like a monstrous waste.
okies

its now linked on the first page

Quote:
Originally Posted by zeroxy
Having trouble aggroing grasping darknesses, wasted 3k so far
So I cast SV first, followed by sprint then I aggro with bow and run away?

Edit: Got it! The trick is activating sv and sprint before you aggro spot on

VIDEO IS UP!

I advise downloading it off filefront, but youtube seems okish =]

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by zeroxy
Having trouble aggroing grasping darknesses, wasted 3k so far
So I cast SV first, followed by sprint then I aggro with bow and run away?

Edit: Got it! The trick is activating sv and sprint before you aggro spot on

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

VIDEO IS UP!

I advise downloading it off filefront, but youtube seems okish =]

Aeon_Enceladus

Aeon_Enceladus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Kuwait

Travellers of the Enlightened Road [WHO]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bewn
Well, first of all GREAT job on this build. I've always been a fan of your farming-guides. Remember your mineral springs farming guide about a year ago? I LOVED it...

Anyway, on topic:

Given the input in this thread I tweaked this build a little and currentliy I'm using this

[skill]Enraging Charge[/skill][skill]Ancestor's Visage[/skill][skill]Sympathetic Visage[/skill][skill]Flail[/skill][skill]Quivering Blade[/skill][skill]Counterattack[/skill][skill]Dolyak Signet[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill]

See it as an alternative using sword, works like a charm

Cheers! WB Loshi

@Bewn: So does that build work just the same way as dont feel no pains'? Does it require different sets of weapons? I'm much more interested in a sword build, since my warrior majors in swords, but can do axes too.

bored-.-bored

bored-.-bored

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

Behind You...

X Team Slayers X

yeah im into swords too what are the attributes+equiptment