Anet, Please please fix this rubber banding problem!
Covah
running droks is always fun with rubberbanding :/
Merre
So I'm not the only one experiencing this horrid problem and mega lag.....it feels like after New Years, the lag has been getting progressively worse including this rubberbanding thing and it's definitely got nothing to do with my internet connection because before this week, i rarely ever err7 or disconnect due to lags. ANET, please fix this problem soon!!! Do any of you guys think it's got to do with the Winterfest event and the snowball fighting arena?
some guy
This is a very annoying problem, it appears you are safe and running past the mobs, but than you are teleported back and you die! This happens to me a lot in UW, when I was pulling for the trap party.
Loviatar
it is lagging somewhere between you and them
i have had 3 (three) 007 in 20 months
i have had 7 momentary rubber bands in that time as well none during winterfest.
i am also less than 20 miles from their servers.
if it were ANET distance would NOT MATTER
i have had 3 (three) 007 in 20 months
i have had 7 momentary rubber bands in that time as well none during winterfest.
i am also less than 20 miles from their servers.
if it were ANET distance would NOT MATTER
shardfenix
...there are like a bajillion threads about lag and rubberbanding, and on each of them you will find me telling you how to avoid rubberbanding. Learn how to read, and learn how to search.
And no, arenanet can't fix it. Rubberbanding is as much arenanet's fault as your local power outage.
And no, arenanet can't fix it. Rubberbanding is as much arenanet's fault as your local power outage.
elektra_lucia
It's probably packet loss, and it won't show up on the ping monitor thing. Also, good computer means little. Could have bad software on it. Bad phone lines, old phone lines. Bad company which provides your ISP and other ISPs data...
I didn't read all of the thread but, I run windows 2003 server edition with tweaks to make net better. My ISP absolutely sucks, and I have no things like porn on my computer.
I do not really get this error, apart from when my ISP does really pack in (and that's around peak times).
However, for me it is ISP error.
I did get it when loads of crap was on my computer, with windows XP also. Whether I'd get it with loads of crap on my computer, with windows 2003 I can't answer since I don't know.
I didn't read all of the thread but, I run windows 2003 server edition with tweaks to make net better. My ISP absolutely sucks, and I have no things like porn on my computer.
I do not really get this error, apart from when my ISP does really pack in (and that's around peak times).
However, for me it is ISP error.
I did get it when loads of crap was on my computer, with windows XP also. Whether I'd get it with loads of crap on my computer, with windows 2003 I can't answer since I don't know.
just call me jimmy
There are numerous people, that are noticing allot of lag issues over the past week or so. Normally you could say it could be your provider, network all of those things and prob be right. But I can tell you when 60% of the people in your 10 guild alliance complain about it at around the same times. Or you do a GVG with everything fine before you enter match, once it starts your entire team is stuck for 1 min , while the other team just strolls in your base and wipes out 1/2 your Npc's. All of this while you laugh at your teammates going omg my ping is 10000. There are prob outside factors effecting the game.
I would guess all the lag is due to the new skill balances, HoH changes,(soon to be upon us) and the earthquake in Taiwan over Christmas. Remember to make it easier on us Anet streams these updates to us before the day of the download.
Lag sucks, but just like death and taxes, something we all have to deal with.
I would guess all the lag is due to the new skill balances, HoH changes,(soon to be upon us) and the earthquake in Taiwan over Christmas. Remember to make it easier on us Anet streams these updates to us before the day of the download.
Lag sucks, but just like death and taxes, something we all have to deal with.
Zeph
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...there are like a bajillion threads about lag and rubberbanding, and on each of them you will find me telling you how to avoid rubberbanding. Learn how to read, and learn how to search.
And no, arenanet can't fix it. Rubberbanding is as much arenanet's fault as your local power outage. |
WOW thanks for that pearl of wisdom!
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Despite your apparent belief that everything you say is correct, I think your wrong. As pointed out by numerous people in this thread, this appears to be a problem with their client/server prediction code or at least the update frequency between the client & server. So of course there are things anet can do to improve this problem. We are not just talking about lagging here. If you read the thread proper you would already know that.
And surprisingly, I can both read and search IF the forums allows such a search. I have tried the search but it's either broke or returning nothing. I have also tried looking for these highly informative posts you have made but the forums don't allow us to 'view all posts' made by a user.
I am bursting with anticipation just thinking about this wisdom you have to offer. So please do share your secret with us because I'd really love to know what the definitive solution on "how to avoid rubberbanding." is, as I am sure many many others would.
Jeremy Untouchable
Yeah, i have had this same problem, i went halfway across noob island with -0 -1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-1 over my head, for me if it starts to happen i will use heal sig, pops me back in place every time. then i back up and go again,
tyrant1x
ive never had that :S maybe once or twice when i lagged but ive been playing nf for 2 or 3weeks now and never had that problem
Kryth
And I ask thou now, why does this always happen when I'm in the Troll Cave running to Droknar with full party... Worms are supposed to be the problem not this... 
Zeph
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And I ask thou now, why does this always happen when I'm in the Troll Cave running to Droknar with full party... Worms are supposed to be the problem not this...
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@ tyrant1x: It only really happens whilst using running skills and trying to pass through a pack of enemies. If your fighting your way through you will hardly ever see this problem.
@ jeremy untouchable: Yeah, I find targeting nearest enemie and attacking makes the game catch up in the same way as using a healing sig. It's not bad if you spot it quite quick but if you don't or if the enemies are very high level your in trouble.
Loviatar
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as for a few complaints on this tiny thread here are some actual stats for you.
numerous people in this and other forums are such a small sample it does not even count.
this site is one of the elite active sites.
also note most game players never even visit a fansite.
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Zeph
Troll on, Loviatar. <_<
I didn't say "ANET can control everything on the 5-10 hops to them", you did. I said "there are things anet can do to improve this problem". There is a very big difference between those 2 statements.
Now please go waste someone else's time.
I didn't say "ANET can control everything on the 5-10 hops to them", you did. I said "there are things anet can do to improve this problem". There is a very big difference between those 2 statements.
Now please go waste someone else's time.
Loviatar
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as to their improving things they made a major server upgrade recently when the moved into the new building.
give us Anet specific improvements they should make based on any actual knowledge (if any) of the hardware/protocols they are using.
be specific not ...........just.......i know they can do something
Sihaya Syme
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use click 2 move. Its server side, you wont rubber band.
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PowerSurge
I don't normally post here on guru but I couldn't ignore this thread.
I to get this problem, from memory I can only say I've had happen regularly for the last 4-6 weeks. I've only been playing Nightfall PvE so I cant comment on whether it effects older chapters. I'm am not posting this to complain because I find it bearable, I'm just posting to confirm that this bug does indeed exist and I have had it occur to about 5-6 time to me.
Now I would like to get a few things out of the way which should hopefully dismiss any idea that its my end. I know the ins and outs of my computer and my internet connection. I know i can (and often have) constantly ping any (reliable) server for hours without spiking more than 50ms above average and without dropping a packet.
P.S. No I was not using speed buffs.
I to get this problem, from memory I can only say I've had happen regularly for the last 4-6 weeks. I've only been playing Nightfall PvE so I cant comment on whether it effects older chapters. I'm am not posting this to complain because I find it bearable, I'm just posting to confirm that this bug does indeed exist and I have had it occur to about 5-6 time to me.
Now I would like to get a few things out of the way which should hopefully dismiss any idea that its my end. I know the ins and outs of my computer and my internet connection. I know i can (and often have) constantly ping any (reliable) server for hours without spiking more than 50ms above average and without dropping a packet.
P.S. No I was not using speed buffs.
Verek
This is not a complaint either, but I have noticed this rubberbanding issue lately.
Occasionally farm the Trolls at the the ices caves for some 'pin money' (I know they now move off and look like they are having a poo mid battle, although when they come back I can't see where they keep the toilet role.)
It seems to happen if you head right through the middle of a mob, although it might just be that Trolls have very, very long invisible arms that hook into you as you run past and then ping you back to them when they are ready.
Occasionally farm the Trolls at the the ices caves for some 'pin money' (I know they now move off and look like they are having a poo mid battle, although when they come back I can't see where they keep the toilet role.)
It seems to happen if you head right through the middle of a mob, although it might just be that Trolls have very, very long invisible arms that hook into you as you run past and then ping you back to them when they are ready.
Loviatar
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if it is a server problem it should be more widely spread by orders of magnatude and every site should have half the threads yelling we cant play.
at about 1500 hours since the start i have had
3 (three) 007s (noted because i went wtf when it happened)
7 momentary rubberbanding events (noted because i went wtf when it happened)
i also have a ping as low as 15 ms and usually no more than 75-100 ms
i am also less than 20 miles from their servers.
if it was a server problem i and a ton of other unaffected players should be having problems also
mikkel
Rubber banding is a huge problem for me, and has been since the release of Nightfall. I understand the need for a considerable amount of client prediction, but from my experience, there can be as much as 20 seconds between syncs. That's just not acceptable in any online game of this nature. 5 seconds would be annoying, but within the realms of tolerance, and that really wouldn't be too taxing on bandwidth. Considering the bridge bugs, I'm guessing a synch wouldn't require more than a set of XY coordinates and the direction the character is facing.
revelation
That thing happens to me all the time... I chestrun a lot and really often get stuck by enemies I run by... Hope this gets fixed, really annoying and frustrating.
uther necro
I too suffer this difficancy of time and space where you just teleport backwards(rubber banding *srry trying to sound smart here*). I mainly have this problem in HA when on a relic map and im try to get out of a plethera of spirits and people. It happens right when i just make it past them and then wahbam im back in the damn block. I'm not sure if Anet can fix this but if they could i would be very much in debt to them.
Sir Skullcrasher
Over the weekend, I experienced random lag and rubber banding while playing.
Thallandor
I faced the same problems with the OP as well when i am forced to run pass a group of enemies.
what would proceed to happen would seem like some coomunication error/lag between the client and the servers.
I would be taking damage from the group that i would have contact with but as i run pass them, i will continue to take damage even if it is shown on my radar that i am clearly out of their range and that they are not chasing me. But in truth, this perception is only represented on the client side interface, but within the servers, your character is actually stuck on the group of mobs who are constantly damaging you until death which you toon will be rubberbanded back to the spot its stuck at.
Lag? bug? Clinch? server problems? I am not exactly sure whats wrong, but seriously Anet work too hard at making new chapters. Perhaps they would like to play their own game some time for a change.
what would proceed to happen would seem like some coomunication error/lag between the client and the servers.
I would be taking damage from the group that i would have contact with but as i run pass them, i will continue to take damage even if it is shown on my radar that i am clearly out of their range and that they are not chasing me. But in truth, this perception is only represented on the client side interface, but within the servers, your character is actually stuck on the group of mobs who are constantly damaging you until death which you toon will be rubberbanded back to the spot its stuck at.
Lag? bug? Clinch? server problems? I am not exactly sure whats wrong, but seriously Anet work too hard at making new chapters. Perhaps they would like to play their own game some time for a change.
Sharn-Mes
I have NEVER had this problem. EVER.
Friday
Well, lots of other people are having this problem, even if you are lucky enough not to have it.
My partner and I have the most atrocious lag, rubberbanding, disconnects and insane pings. And it's NOT our pc's or our connection - as it is only in Guild Wars and we have done all the suggested client-side "fixes" we can find recommended. And it's not just us - every single member of our 40 member odd guild (spread out between Australia, South Africa, Europe and the UK), and almost every member of our 9 guild strong alliance has the same problem.
The game is almost unplayable for all of us at the moment (6 x group err7's while running a guildie's foreign char to Ascalon from LA? Trying to get through Zaishen Challenge with a guildie to access higher PVP and giving up because of err7's for each of us in every battle!! and the re-connect "facility" not functioning? this all in one night!). This nonsense has already led to a few alliance and guild members leaving in disgust for other games with better server support.
With this (for our guild) being a world wide problem at the moment - please do not tell me that it's not an A-net server problem.... because its definitely NOT on the client side IMHO
My partner and I have the most atrocious lag, rubberbanding, disconnects and insane pings. And it's NOT our pc's or our connection - as it is only in Guild Wars and we have done all the suggested client-side "fixes" we can find recommended. And it's not just us - every single member of our 40 member odd guild (spread out between Australia, South Africa, Europe and the UK), and almost every member of our 9 guild strong alliance has the same problem.
The game is almost unplayable for all of us at the moment (6 x group err7's while running a guildie's foreign char to Ascalon from LA? Trying to get through Zaishen Challenge with a guildie to access higher PVP and giving up because of err7's for each of us in every battle!! and the re-connect "facility" not functioning? this all in one night!). This nonsense has already led to a few alliance and guild members leaving in disgust for other games with better server support.
With this (for our guild) being a world wide problem at the moment - please do not tell me that it's not an A-net server problem.... because its definitely NOT on the client side IMHO
Eli Rela
I am getting this rubber-banding issue quite often recently. Anytime I pass/fight large mob and want to run through/away I get stuck... I have to see if the c2m helps to alleviate this problem
Nickhimself
I get this when i'm doing 1 of 2 things:
Chest Running
Map Exploration
And it always sucks. Hardcore. To the max. Extreme.
Chest Running
Map Exploration
And it always sucks. Hardcore. To the max. Extreme.
Dark Dragon
I've only had this problem a few times and it was always down to my house mate downloading and leeching all the available bandwidth >=(
leprekan
The rubber band lag is free of charge and brings a new element of challenge to towns and missions! That or the Anet server is a 386 sx on a 9600 baud connection. *shrug* I will think of it as a perk since it gets worse with every chapter.
drupal
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The rubber band lag is free of charge and brings a new element of challenge to towns and missions!
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boxterduke
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Everybody has this problem. Its been stated and i dont think Anet has adressed the problem. We'll just have to continue trying to play an unplayable game.
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Rubber banding is because of network connections and I'm afraid its more that just Anet fixing a "problem"
jcapulet
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It seems to happen if you head right through the middle of a mob, although it might just be that Trolls have very, very long invisible arms that hook into you as you run past and then ping you back to them when they are ready.
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It helps to know I'm not the only one with the rubber band problem. It doesn't happen everyday, but I've noticed more frequently it's when I'm using my running skills.
Not long ago I was running my hubby from Beacon's Perch to L.A...got repeatedly rubberbanded in the ettin caves. He thought I was standing still, while on my screen I was still running. I kept dying from being rubberbanded back to mobs of ettins x.x .
cb0895
I am on TW cable connection.
The rubber banding effect has gotten me killed several times while soloing the u/w. Things happen very quickly and you need to be very precise in what you do or you will quickly die.
It is extremely frustrating to have run away from a bladed aatxe only to find yourself dying from mysterious blows with no one in your radar. Then after I am dead I "rubber band" back to where the aatxe just beat the crap out of me.
until this is fixed farming the u/w is a crap shoot at best.
Please Anet fix this.
I have been playing this series since Prophecies was released.
I dont want to have to give it up because of something like this.
Thanks for your attention to this issue.
Thunder Lizard
The rubber banding effect has gotten me killed several times while soloing the u/w. Things happen very quickly and you need to be very precise in what you do or you will quickly die.
It is extremely frustrating to have run away from a bladed aatxe only to find yourself dying from mysterious blows with no one in your radar. Then after I am dead I "rubber band" back to where the aatxe just beat the crap out of me.
until this is fixed farming the u/w is a crap shoot at best.
Please Anet fix this.
I have been playing this series since Prophecies was released.
I dont want to have to give it up because of something like this.
Thanks for your attention to this issue.
Thunder Lizard
dargon
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Winterclaw
I haven't had problems with this until a day or two ago. Now I'm seeing it from time to time.
Malibu Illusion
I'm primarily a PvP player and this is a nightmare in matches, especially relic runs and whatnot.
I'm not too convinced of it being entirely a latency issue either; there's places that I can replicate the problem. For those familiar with PvP, getting to the boat from the Zaishen fight at the start involves you squeezing through a gap between an NPC guard and a wall. 9 times out of 10 you will rubberband at this location due to the very close proximity of the guard and a wall in relation to your character.
I think the collision detection system that the game is using needs to be looked at and how the information of a 'successful' block is relayed back to the client. This is definitely a problem that Anet can resolve; it's not outside of their realm. If that were the case as people have been saying, the problem would be common among many MMOs and pretty much any other online game which involves client/server interaction and this simply isn't the case. Besides, this problem has not always been present in Guild Wars, indicating to me that something with the collision detection system has been changed and is responsible for causing this.
I'm not too convinced of it being entirely a latency issue either; there's places that I can replicate the problem. For those familiar with PvP, getting to the boat from the Zaishen fight at the start involves you squeezing through a gap between an NPC guard and a wall. 9 times out of 10 you will rubberband at this location due to the very close proximity of the guard and a wall in relation to your character.
I think the collision detection system that the game is using needs to be looked at and how the information of a 'successful' block is relayed back to the client. This is definitely a problem that Anet can resolve; it's not outside of their realm. If that were the case as people have been saying, the problem would be common among many MMOs and pretty much any other online game which involves client/server interaction and this simply isn't the case. Besides, this problem has not always been present in Guild Wars, indicating to me that something with the collision detection system has been changed and is responsible for causing this.
Zeph
Good to see people still posting about this problem. Maybe if enough people post then Anet will look at this problem, although I won't hold my breath.
The problem still happens all the time to me but I've got around the rage (mostly) by simply switching GW off when it happens. Not the best solution but better than buying a new keyboard all the time cause the last one got thrashed in rage.
I've also been doing a bit of pvp of late and have noticed the exact same problem there too. I'm really surprised that more pvp players are not complaining about this actually, it's frustrating enough dying because of rubberbanding whilst running or farming in pve but I can only imagine how annoying it is whilst trying to play a important pvp match.
The problem still happens all the time to me but I've got around the rage (mostly) by simply switching GW off when it happens. Not the best solution but better than buying a new keyboard all the time cause the last one got thrashed in rage.
I've also been doing a bit of pvp of late and have noticed the exact same problem there too. I'm really surprised that more pvp players are not complaining about this actually, it's frustrating enough dying because of rubberbanding whilst running or farming in pve but I can only imagine how annoying it is whilst trying to play a important pvp match.
Gun Pierson
Rubber banding happens a lot to me and I have a fast connection and a fast machine. I'm at the point where I notice it quite quick when it happens so I stop moving, make a step aside and the screen will jump back to where I got stuck.
You can see it for example when running in a new group and they don't aggro, don't keep running, stop, make the sidestep and you won't waste that much time.
You can see it for example when running in a new group and they don't aggro, don't keep running, stop, make the sidestep and you won't waste that much time.
bebe
This "bug" or whatever it is, has been happening to me a lot lately too.. It's pretty annoying especially when your trying to get out of agro and on your screen your about 20 feet away but your still getting damage.
When this happens I try to dodge left and right so I get teleported back and try to escape but I just stand there slowing dying. T-T
When this happens I try to dodge left and right so I get teleported back and try to escape but I just stand there slowing dying. T-T