My bro just told me his account has been suspended for 24 hours due to inapropriate language.
Inapropriate language? the deal:
He recieve green writing (like from in a guild) in the chat window telling him not to spam the trade window. Simply put - he rudely asked who it was (thinking it was an unknown guild member or a guest that couldn't be seen). Instead of an answer he was told to mind his language and when he pointedly said he'll talk how he wants he was booted and suspended for 24 hours for inapropriate language - not for spaming the trade (which he says he wasn't doing, and I tend to believe him as I know how he sells his stuff).
Now I am not one to appreciate a huge amount of swearing but with the option within GW to turn swearing on an off this is not a problem. How can Anet think they have the right to randomly boot and suspend people for swearing at an administrator who won't anounce themselves? This is what we call tin-god syndrome. Booting people, for no real reason, to feel big and powerful. It is, simply, disgusting.
This is a bit beyond ridiculous. Has this happend to anyone else? I looked through the formums and saw a few suspended acounts but from things like inapropriate names etc.
His 5 paragraph email to Anet will probably get binned. I am curious as to whether anyone else has been bullied by tin-god admins
Suspended Acounts - Anet playing Tin-God
Cantora
Caleb
Your brother was probably one of the "gentlemen" swearing at Gaile Gray in lions arch tonight.
Had he read his EULA, he would realize his language was inappropriate. That you feel swearing isn't a problem is irrelevent, apparently someone felt his language was over the edge and reported him.
They have every right to boot/suspend people for violating the EULA, and I can guarantee you it was in no way random.
Painful 24 hours to be suspended, hopefully he will be back online in time to enjoy the rest of the Wintersday festivities.
Had he read his EULA, he would realize his language was inappropriate. That you feel swearing isn't a problem is irrelevent, apparently someone felt his language was over the edge and reported him.
They have every right to boot/suspend people for violating the EULA, and I can guarantee you it was in no way random.
Painful 24 hours to be suspended, hopefully he will be back online in time to enjoy the rest of the Wintersday festivities.
William Sunrider
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Originally Posted by Cantora
Anet think they have the right to randomly boot and suspend people for swearing at an administrator who won't anounce themselves?
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I pwnd U
i think caleb is prolly rite. also if ANet did crack down on swearing i think everyone would be banned. its sad taht he got banned but he shouldnt be swearing at gaile gray that is def a ban rite there. people spam trade al the time it needs to be cracked down on. ive never had anyone i know banned but they all keep it clean. srry a/b yur bros ban.
generik
Maybe he should learn to chill it and back off
Spamming local chat? God I hate those SOBs, even better is him challenging GG? Who does he think he is, some mafia? Gangster? Big RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO?
I hope people like him gets perm banned for good.
Spamming local chat? God I hate those SOBs, even better is him challenging GG? Who does he think he is, some mafia? Gangster? Big RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO?
I hope people like him gets perm banned for good.
naix
Meh, try getting banned for a week during the week the halloween events were happening just because you said you dont like the french. It was a painful week. I suppose the frog is french? 
Kassad
Spamming is bad, swearing is fine. Dont like swearing? Turn the filter on. Thats why it's there for.
Hodor
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Spamming is bad, swearing is fine. Dont like swearing? Turn the filter on. Thats why it's there for.
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cagan
The filter doesn't make it okay, the filter just makes it less painful for the general populace.
Juhanah
http://www.guildwars.com/legal/user-agreement.html
They are not playing tin-god.. They are doing their job and i'm happy to know they really do.
..Unlike other games i played where GM wouldn't care about anything else than showing off their max items of pwnage in town or giving gold to their friends.
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4. ACCOUNT (j) In Guild Wars, characters have the privilege of sending server wide messages called 'Chat Messages.' With this privilege comes a high level of responsibility on the part of the user. Due to the fact that this communication channel has the ability to impact every player on the server, NC Interactive will not tolerate any inappropriate behavior of any sort in this chat channel. This includes but is not limited to: inappropriate language of any sort or any attempt to escape the profanity filter, inappropriate or vulgar content of any sort, repeated 'spamming,' or 'flooding' of the chat messages channel, or any other conduct determined to be inappropriate by NC Interactive Support, in its sole discretion. Any violation of this term or rules of conduct may, in the sole discretion of NC Interactive, lead to the temporary removal of the character’s ability to communicate, the account being suspended for a set period of time, or lead to permanent account closure. |
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14. TERMINATION (a) NC Interactive reserves the right to suspend or terminate this Agreement (including your Software license and your Account) immediately and without notice if you breach this Agreement or willfully infringe any third party intellectual property rights, or if we are unable to verify or authenticate any information you provide to us, or upon game play, chat or any player activity whatsoever which is, in our sole discretion, inappropriate and/or in violation of the spirit of Guild Wars as described in the Rules of Conduct. Should NC Interactive decide to suspend or terminate this Agreement with a User under any circumstances, the User will lose access to your Account. (b) You agree that if the Service or your Account is suspended, terminated or cancelled for any reason or length of time, you are not entitled to any reimbursement or refund of any fees or unused access time. |
..Unlike other games i played where GM wouldn't care about anything else than showing off their max items of pwnage in town or giving gold to their friends.
Mo/R9
If you're going to speak rudely to a server mod/admin, of course you'll get suspended for inappropriate language. Anyway, spamming is bad too, the inappropriate language was just the option chosen in the "e-mail generator" which I have no idea about seeing as I am just a player like you. :P
4thVariety
Good thing nobody at Arenanet seems to speak anything besides English. It can get really rough in some Eropean districts. And most Germans turn of the chatfilter anyway since at least one "swear" word has some real non vulgar meaning in german, yet looks the same. eg. fat in german is "dick". so it is very nice to talk about fat people in English districts, in german of course.
:-)
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Ultimate_Gaara
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Originally Posted by Cantora
How can Anet think they have the right to randomly boot and suspend people for swearing at an administrator who won't anounce themselves?
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Im not one for random abuse of one's power, but im also not for thinking you can say what you want when you want just because your playing a game online...
IMehler
@Cantora:
One moment dude. Nobody can talk how he wants. There are rules in the game. And if your friend doesnt accept or viloate them, he must bear the consequences.
One moment dude. Nobody can talk how he wants. There are rules in the game. And if your friend doesnt accept or viloate them, he must bear the consequences.
lofblad
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Originally Posted by Kassad
Spamming is bad, swearing is fine. Dont like swearing? Turn the filter on. Thats why it's there for.
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Trippy
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Originally Posted by Cantora
How can Anet think they have the right to randomly boot and suspend people for swearing at an administrator who won't anounce themselves?
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adj.
Having no specific pattern, purpose, or objective: random movements. See Synonyms at chance.
well there's no pattern in the banning that's true, it does have a purpose and objective though.
the purpose: removing someone that uses inappropriate language.
the objective: make the game that little bit more peaceful.
random you say... lol..
(for more meaning of the word random go to http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=random)
Asrial
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Originally Posted by Cantora
He recieve green writing (like from in a guild) in the chat window telling him not to spam the trade window. |
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Originally Posted by Cantora
Simply put - he rudely asked who it was (thinking it was an unknown guild member or a guest that couldn't be seen). |
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Originally Posted by Cantora
Instead of an answer he was told to mind his language and when he pointedly said he'll talk how he wants... |
Omgwtf Lol
Edited to avoid offending yes men and the dictators.
Takkun
over-react much?
I could do 24 hours in a handstand.
Seems like the appripriate punishment, like a time-out.
I could do 24 hours in a handstand.
Seems like the appripriate punishment, like a time-out.
cagan
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Originally Posted by Omgwtf Lol
.... if they really ban people that swear, 99% of the gw population would be gone.
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Of course, its nothing automated, so you shoudln't be surprised to find the penalties occur quicker/more obviously the anet teams presence. After all, doing it in front of them is about as much proof as you can get.
A minor slip as far as swearing goes probably isn't going to get you in much trouble, but if you get into some heated swearing, someone takes a screenie, and sends it along with some info to Anet .. you *will* be punished.
Anet don't tolerate offensive/derogatory behaviour, theres no 'special' treatment going on here, he was caught being offensive, and was punished for it. That's all.
Eet GnomeSmasher
You people that are saying that it's okay to swear just because there's a filter...well you just don't get it. The filter is well...a filter! It's a safeguard. It does not mean that it's okay to swear in a public setting where children can see it....and it doesnt mean you can swear at an official of the game. That's just plain stupid.
That's like saying that it's okay to grope the strippers because there are bouncers there. Why do you think the bouncers/filters are there in the first place? To keep the troublemakers from causing trouble.
And no, I don't get offended by swearing personally.... I just know there's a time and place for it. Your brother was too stupid to learn this.
Haha. Right. That's why I post on these forums...to get free stuff. I can't believe people like you are this stupid.
That's like saying that it's okay to grope the strippers because there are bouncers there. Why do you think the bouncers/filters are there in the first place? To keep the troublemakers from causing trouble.
And no, I don't get offended by swearing personally.... I just know there's a time and place for it. Your brother was too stupid to learn this.
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ps: sucking up to anet and being yes men isnt gonna get them to give you free stuff guys.
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Laylooh Cheyenne
sucks he got bannd but if he did go against EULA then yea..he desevd it.im sure they can check his chat logs to see what he said. sometimes i wish they had gms on this game while people are playing just to see the dirty little mouth children on here lol. ive had a couple of "kids" curse me out just because i wont take thier deal on a sale....ggz i just lol at them and let them burn in their own misery.but i have yet to see ne accounts on guild wars useing "walker" or ne form of 3rd party programs.u cant even "box" another account of gws on the same computer=( i have alot of likes in this game but some changes id also like to see 
Seissor
What can you communicate with swearing that you cannot communicate in every day PG language?
I think 24 hours is a weak penalty, especially given there was a warning.
If a cop pulls you over for speeding 5 kilometers over the limit you dont spit in his face call him homosexual and expect there will be no consequences.
I think 24 hours is a weak penalty, especially given there was a warning.
If a cop pulls you over for speeding 5 kilometers over the limit you dont spit in his face call him homosexual and expect there will be no consequences.
Omgwtf Lol
Edited to avoid offending yes men and the dictators.
Ellix Cantero
ANET: 1 Punk Ass Biatches: 0
Zobi
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Meh, try getting banned for a week during the week the halloween events were happening just because you said you dont like the french. It was a painful week. I suppose the frog is french?
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There are certain elements of American society and especially politics that I disagree with, but I sure as hell don't go around screaming "I hate Yanks!"
Witchblade
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ANET: 1 Punk Ass Biatches: 0
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schutz
Maybe you shouldnt turn the filter off if you dont like inappropiate language, its there for a reason but 24 hours is nothing ive had 160 hours (i think) and thats just for the random crap i speak and no gw then was hard. First suspension is like 24 hours, then 3 days then a week then like 2 weeks or something
wilebill
GW is very tolerant compared to World of WarCraft, where he might have gotten two weeks suspension.
No excuse for swearing. Can't control your temper, you don't need to play.
No excuse for swearing. Can't control your temper, you don't need to play.
Takeko Nakano
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No excuse for swearing. Can't control your temper, you don't need to play.
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More importantly even if you have the chat filter on:
a) You can tell when you're being insulted and even what they're saying "---- you" is quite obvious. As is "mother ------" Abuse doesn't have to be swearing either.
b) Some people change their spellings so the words will come up anyway.
Old Dood
Say...I am glad that A-Net is cleaning up the little brat's behavior in the game. If it was up to me it wouldn't be for a measly 24 hours. That is a slap on the wrist. I would make it hurt for two weeks at a minimum.
Time to learn some manners. People get tired of endless spamming in the local chat and then when asked to stop then we get some little punk that can't even swear correctly in the first place running their mouth back at us.
Time to learn some manners. People get tired of endless spamming in the local chat and then when asked to stop then we get some little punk that can't even swear correctly in the first place running their mouth back at us.
Loviatar
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Originally Posted by Omgwtf Lol
he didnt get banned for swearing, he got banned for swearing at an gm. the gm just abused his power. if they really ban people that swear, 99% of the gw population would be gone.
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most of the people are not jerks like the OPs bro.
the jerk got a warning and simply got worse.
ban him a week next time.
just because you think everybody is a swear fountain doesnt make it so.
just the company you keep i guess
LivingDeadGrrl
I have a question - and don't everyone pile on for the attack cuz I just woke up
If indeed someone ask a person, giving them a direct order, who they are, what's it gonna hurt to say "I'm an Admin at Arena Net"? Or, since anyone can say that, make those players who work for Anet have some kinda aura? Only in times of trouble or great strife would I think it's ok to dictate orders and not show ID every single time you tell someone "Move out of the way, there's a man with a machine gun!". I was just last week dealing with people on the trade channel, repeating themselves every .2 of a second, and I turned the trade channel off. It was then that I realized how much spam goes on in the general chat area also. I said "Can't you all keep the trade stuff on the trade channel?" I was ignored, but what if someone had asked who I was... and I did work for Anet, I just chose not to tell them and bark another order? I can't take a second to say who I am or announce my presence when I first arrive on the scene?
I mean Anet can do whatever they want to, it's their toy and they can take it home if they wish. But what stops everyone from running around trying to play boss? Are the admins clearly marked and this person just didn't know? I've never run into one so I don't know... I also don't act up in game unless I'm questing with my sis
If indeed someone ask a person, giving them a direct order, who they are, what's it gonna hurt to say "I'm an Admin at Arena Net"? Or, since anyone can say that, make those players who work for Anet have some kinda aura? Only in times of trouble or great strife would I think it's ok to dictate orders and not show ID every single time you tell someone "Move out of the way, there's a man with a machine gun!". I was just last week dealing with people on the trade channel, repeating themselves every .2 of a second, and I turned the trade channel off. It was then that I realized how much spam goes on in the general chat area also. I said "Can't you all keep the trade stuff on the trade channel?" I was ignored, but what if someone had asked who I was... and I did work for Anet, I just chose not to tell them and bark another order? I can't take a second to say who I am or announce my presence when I first arrive on the scene?
I mean Anet can do whatever they want to, it's their toy and they can take it home if they wish. But what stops everyone from running around trying to play boss? Are the admins clearly marked and this person just didn't know? I've never run into one so I don't know... I also don't act up in game unless I'm questing with my sis
Commander Ryker
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Spamming is bad, swearing is fine. Dont like swearing? Turn the filter on. Thats why it's there for.
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Loviatar
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I Or, since anyone can say that, make those players who work for Anet have some kinda aura?
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ummmm........they do already.ever notice that they speak in a different color (green) in the chat when the players cant?
and the jerk didnt simply ask who it was they..........
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Inapropriate language? the deal: Simply put - he rudely asked who it was |
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since it is available for review if the banned jerk complains it is not likely an abuse of power since the logs will prove it one way or the other.
maybe on review they would ban him for a week
Fyre Brand
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My bro just told me his account has been suspended for 24 hours due to inapropriate language.
Inapropriate language? the deal: He recieve green writing (like from in a guild) in the chat window telling him not to spam the trade window. Simply put - he rudely asked who it was (thinking it was an unknown guild member or a guest that couldn't be seen). Instead of an answer he was told to mind his language and when he pointedly said he'll talk how he wants he was booted and suspended for 24 hours for inapropriate language - not for spaming the trade (which he says he wasn't doing, and I tend to believe him as I know how he sells his stuff). Now I am not one to appreciate a huge amount of swearing but with the option within GW to turn swearing on an off this is not a problem. How can Anet think they have the right to randomly boot and suspend people for swearing at an administrator who won't anounce themselves? This is what we call tin-god syndrome. Booting people, for no real reason, to feel big and powerful. It is, simply, disgusting. This is a bit beyond ridiculous. Has this happend to anyone else? I looked through the formums and saw a few suspended acounts but from things like inapropriate names etc. His 5 paragraph email to Anet will probably get binned. I am curious as to whether anyone else has been bullied by tin-god admins |
To the just turn the filter on crowd~~
Moderate swearing in the game is obviously designed and tolerated or the chat filter would do just that filter all swearing. But with that said, so many people abuse that. The filter is there to assist those people who don't want to see any of that, or for parents who have younger children and want to try and filter out vulgar chat. The EULA, Gaile and the position of ANet/NCSoft in general is that it is not okay to be vulgar or use excessive swearing. I hate the argument that if you don't like the spam or the off-color conversation that you should just turn on the filter or rezone. That isn't the view of the game company or the community in general. It is a very vocal minority of players who make it seem that most people talk this way. They don't. /rant off.
Zobi
My biggest gripe about the chat filter is that is in no way localised. For example, If i Type "damn," which I believe is a terrible word in the States, it is filtered. I have heard the Royal Family use this word, and it is considered much nicer than "bloody" in the UK, which is not filtered.
You then have words like "Wanker" which are not filtered, and which I would consider truly awful language for children to see.
I apologise for swearing, but was just trying to explain that maybe a regional filter would be better; along with a a "British English" translation of the game for those in Europe, so that we do not have to see "Favor," "Armor" and "Customized" everywhere, and wonder why our children cannot spell. ^^
You then have words like "Wanker" which are not filtered, and which I would consider truly awful language for children to see.
I apologise for swearing, but was just trying to explain that maybe a regional filter would be better; along with a a "British English" translation of the game for those in Europe, so that we do not have to see "Favor," "Armor" and "Customized" everywhere, and wonder why our children cannot spell. ^^
Juhanah
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Are the admins clearly marked and this person just didn't know? I've never run into one so I don't know... I also don't act up in game unless I'm questing with my sis
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Eet GnomeSmasher
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Originally Posted by Omgwtf Lol
wow retarded arent you? was what i said solely directed at you? there are people that actually think sucking up to anet will make anet show some leniency for them if they break a rule or even give them free stuff in game.
no different to people sucking up to bosses hoping to get advanced into a better position. or some kid at school praising a teacher trying to get on their good side. it might not work but there are desperate losers that will try. |
So don't give me this crap about not "solely directing" it at me...I don't care if you did or didnt....your statement about people posting here to get free stuff from ANET was just plain idiotic.
generik
It has nothing to do with that, I'd bet he said something to the effect like "Who the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO you think you are? I speak the way I want to speak"
And tata.. banation
And tata.. banation