Ive been playing nearly every day for the last year and a half, and I cant say ive noticed any changes.
People are being absolutely paranoid just because the numbers are spread thinner between three campaigns, which is to be expected.
Stop being so moronic and posting thread after thread titled "why GWs is dying and how to fix it", or "why I think guild wars is dying".
ITS NOT!!! For a 2 year old game, its doing damn well and its 15 minutes of fame still arent up.
There are no other non-monthly subscription MMOs on the market to compete with it. Especially not ones with superb graphics. The only other ones which can clame to be free MMOs are japanise web-based ones with 20 year old graphics which are aimed more at the diable2 and FF fans.
Anet isnt running out money and they certainly arent going bankrupt, and their "business plan" doesnt seem bad to me.
But honestly. Who cares about Anet's business plan and current state of affiars. We're meant to be playing this game to enjoy it and get away from real life. So stop worrying about such rediculious things.
Ofcourse this game will eventually have less players in it and eventually Anet will close the servers. But that wont be for a while because there is always a constant influx of new noob players. You see them all over the place asking daft questions and asking for help. How is that a sign of sales collapsing? Its not. Its a sign that people are influxing to the game allll the time. We're even stealing people away from WoW because their sick of the monthly fees and the ease of GWs compared to it.
So stop worrying.
Stop suggesting GWs is dying and scare-mongering.
freekedoutfish
Ninna
most online game forums have doomsayer talk after the 1st expansion
people have been predicting EverQuest's death for over 7 years and its still pumping out expansions annually.
many (most?) people who enjoy online games dont read forums anyhow
- they are too busy playing
people have been predicting EverQuest's death for over 7 years and its still pumping out expansions annually.
many (most?) people who enjoy online games dont read forums anyhow
- they are too busy playing
Aleta
I play both GW and EQII and I was just reading over there this morning
Oh woe is me I am leaving EQ is dying. (doom,doom)
And ya you may see some going to check out Wow's new chapter but
that happens.
Sure some places are light in population right now but it will even out.
Am I tired of GW? Heck no!!!!
I will play until the last day, and I think that day is a long way off.
brokenmonkey
I agree, but.. this thread gonna get closed, just like mine did.
Something along the lines of "This thread is going no where."
but IMO, thats buncha bs
oh ya, its not that GW is dying, its that these curtain people, are getting bored of Guild Wars.. they say is dying cus there getting tired of playing too much
Something along the lines of "This thread is going no where."
but IMO, thats buncha bs
oh ya, its not that GW is dying, its that these curtain people, are getting bored of Guild Wars.. they say is dying cus there getting tired of playing too much
ericdanie
GW may die for YOU, but that is only for YOU and without any need to spread the death of GW in YOURSELF. I have never taken any of these negative topics on GW seriously, because despite what they are saying GW is still up and making records.
JYX
Of course the people are spread thinner about the continent, I fail to see how this is a surprise. Unless the number of players doubled when factions was released, it will be spread thinner, and same when nightfall was released. Eventually the population will be spread very very thinly, pugging will get almost impossible. You will have to rely on your guild/friends list but even so, unless you'e advancing at the same pace you're going to be down to either rerunning missions or hero/henching them.
At some point Guild Wars will die. The alternative would be to have it go on forever, and that's just pretty unlikely. Yes the Anet business model may be "short-sighted", the schedule for expansions and nature of these expansions guarantees a thinning population. I think the point is though, that the game has already enjoyed greater success than it would ever have done without this business model.
Games don't last forever, eventually we'll all quit and move onto the next big thing, or give up gaming. Just enjoy this while it lasts.
At some point Guild Wars will die. The alternative would be to have it go on forever, and that's just pretty unlikely. Yes the Anet business model may be "short-sighted", the schedule for expansions and nature of these expansions guarantees a thinning population. I think the point is though, that the game has already enjoyed greater success than it would ever have done without this business model.
Games don't last forever, eventually we'll all quit and move onto the next big thing, or give up gaming. Just enjoy this while it lasts.
Whisper Evenstar
/signed (on thread title)
If the moderators are going to close threads, I suggest closing the pointless doom and gloom threads the OP is referring to. For those who wish to post such threads and are unhappy, please, by all means, go play somewhere else. For those that have constructive, innovative, and interesting ideas about how to make things better, I look forward to your posts...
If the moderators are going to close threads, I suggest closing the pointless doom and gloom threads the OP is referring to. For those who wish to post such threads and are unhappy, please, by all means, go play somewhere else. For those that have constructive, innovative, and interesting ideas about how to make things better, I look forward to your posts...
Gun Pierson
When the time is right I hope they make a guildwars2 with a new engine and all but where you can transfer your characters like the Baldur's Gate/Icewind Dale series. Just a thought.
I don't think the game is dying at this point, the population is spread thinner yes.
I don't think the game is dying at this point, the population is spread thinner yes.
floppinghog
This is pretty much what I've been saying myself, except I went the step further and explained how people were wrong about aspects of GW's 2 profession model.
But don't no one hijack this thread on my account, it holds true. I am always sick of seeing just one thread about how this little kid in their room, not even done with 8th grade, has the complete background and information at Anet, and knows exactly why they "are dying" and proposes their "ideas" of the "fix" to a non-existent problem. It's hilarious, in an annoying way.
But don't no one hijack this thread on my account, it holds true. I am always sick of seeing just one thread about how this little kid in their room, not even done with 8th grade, has the complete background and information at Anet, and knows exactly why they "are dying" and proposes their "ideas" of the "fix" to a non-existent problem. It's hilarious, in an annoying way.
Domino
Guild Wars isn't dead, however I and a number of my colleagues are ready for some information about the future of Guild Wars.... whether that be Guild Wars 2, or another expansion pack.
When they say absolutely nothing about sequels or big planned features, it gives the impression of stagnation, and people start jumping to wild conclusions. Ultimately it's a vicious cycle.
When they say absolutely nothing about sequels or big planned features, it gives the impression of stagnation, and people start jumping to wild conclusions. Ultimately it's a vicious cycle.
bamm bamm bamm
Well, people see their long time playing friends start to leave and it feels like the game is dying. They don't see the new people coming in (and according to Anet's stats there is a healthy turnover). It's been nearly 18 months (a key time for any morpg) and a lot of people are simply going to get bored, as with any game. Anet chose to use the ability to start at the most recent chapter ("it's not an expansion, it's standalone!!1!!") so that new players would have an easy time getting into the game, all designed to keep the playerbase churning. But as someone has said, it's been 18 months and from this point onwards there will always be people declaring the death of Guild Wars, simply because from where they are standing, after looking at their guild roster and friends list, that's exactly what it feels like. Their missing friends and inactive guildies are getting replaced (events are drawing more people than ever before) but that's just how it feels to some people.
Grais
No offense intended Freak(and thats not lip service), but cant I just as easily say stop making these posts complaining about the communtiy, they never end(and they dont,no matter what game it is,no matter how many people proclaim its virtues). How many times do you think,"Is Diablo Dying" been asked on the D2 forums around the world
There will always be whining amd complaining, and doomsday predictions,etc,etc, et all. Its been that way since the start of time, infact its the very reason forums were created, and now people bemoan the fact that the creatiion has taken on a life of its own,
The sooner you accept it, the sooner it stops bothering you.
Or you can just go on, debating lifes mysteries, fueling the fire(so to speak), which is cool, that is what the forum is for.
There will always be whining amd complaining, and doomsday predictions,etc,etc, et all. Its been that way since the start of time, infact its the very reason forums were created, and now people bemoan the fact that the creatiion has taken on a life of its own,
The sooner you accept it, the sooner it stops bothering you.
Or you can just go on, debating lifes mysteries, fueling the fire(so to speak), which is cool, that is what the forum is for.
bart
OMG!!! GW is dying???? GW is dying!!! run for your lives!!!
Express2022
Omg, this is such a pointless debate..... I could careless if Guild Wars dies. If GW dies, which is not going to happen anytime soon, I'll just find myself another game to play. I've played this game since April of 2005, I have all 3 chapters and I have to say GW is getting boring... I don't plan on buying another chapter because, even though they'll have something great, its just not worth it...
Though Guild Wars is getting somewhat boring, I still Support Anet/NcSoft. I'll always support NcSoft because it's simply my favorite company
EA = Crap!
SOE = Crap!
Blizzard = Crap!
Other Wannabe Companies = Crap!
"WOW" = World of Warcrap! WoW FTL!
If you're into guildwars or wow (meh
) Check out NCsoft's newest game that's still underdevelopment:AION
Again, this Debate is POINTLESS! IF you really want to spark some fires, go talk about people talking politics in game. MAKES ME LAUGH MY HEAD OFF!!
Though Guild Wars is getting somewhat boring, I still Support Anet/NcSoft. I'll always support NcSoft because it's simply my favorite company
EA = Crap!
SOE = Crap!
Blizzard = Crap!
Other Wannabe Companies = Crap!
"WOW" = World of Warcrap! WoW FTL!
If you're into guildwars or wow (meh
) Check out NCsoft's newest game that's still underdevelopment:AIONAgain, this Debate is POINTLESS! IF you really want to spark some fires, go talk about people talking politics in game. MAKES ME LAUGH MY HEAD OFF!!
Express2022
Omg, this is such a pointless debate..... I could careless if Guild Wars dies. If GW dies, which is not going to happen anytime soon, I'll just find myself another game to play. I've played this game since April of 2005, I have all 3 chapters and I have to say GW is getting boring... I don't plan on buying another chapter because, even though they'll have something great, its just not worth it...
Though Guild Wars is getting somewhat boring, I still Support Anet/NcSoft. I'll always support NcSoft because it's simply my favorite company
EA = Crap!
SOE = Crap!
Blizzard = Crap!
Other Wannabe Companies = Crap!
"WOW" = World of Warcrap! WoW FTL!
If you're into guildwars or wow (meh ) Check out NCsoft's newest game that's still underdevelopment:AION
Again, this Debate is POINTLESS! IF you really want to spark some fires, go talk about people talking politics in game. MAKES ME LAUGH MY HEAD OFF!!
Though Guild Wars is getting somewhat boring, I still Support Anet/NcSoft. I'll always support NcSoft because it's simply my favorite company
EA = Crap!
SOE = Crap!
Blizzard = Crap!
Other Wannabe Companies = Crap!
"WOW" = World of Warcrap! WoW FTL!
If you're into guildwars or wow (meh
) Check out NCsoft's newest game that's still underdevelopment:AIONAgain, this Debate is POINTLESS! IF you really want to spark some fires, go talk about people talking politics in game. MAKES ME LAUGH MY HEAD OFF!!
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Omg, this is such a pointless debate..... I could careless if Guild Wars dies. If GW dies, which is not going to happen anytime soon, I'll just find myself another game to play. I've played this game since April of 2005, I have all 3 chapters and I have to say GW is getting boring... I don't plan on buying another chapter because, even though they'll have something great, its just not worth it...
Though Guild Wars is getting somewhat boring, I still Support Anet/NcSoft. I'll always support NcSoft because it's simply my favorite company EA = Crap! SOE = Crap! Blizzard = Crap! Other Wannabe Companies = Crap! "WOW" = World of Warcrap! WoW FTL! If you're into guildwars or wow (meh ) Check out NCsoft's newest game that's still underdevelopment:AIONAgain, this Debate is POINTLESS! IF you really want to spark some fires, go talk about people talking politics in game. MAKES ME LAUGH MY HEAD OFF!! |
escoffier
oh how i wish the naysayers would just keep it to themselves GW is alive and kicking.i party up granted with guildies alot but if i have guildies and friends GW is great!
Ninna
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I and a number of my colleagues are ready for some information about the future of Guild Wars.... whether that be Guild Wars 2, or another expansion pack.
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sindex
Hey everyone I am back from the holiday season and jury duty what fun huh?
Anyways on topic, considering that there are many people that live in certain ideologies, you can never stop them from saying that “something is coming to an end.” We pretty much get the idea that nothing lasts forever, but taking it to such extreme lengths will only undermine you (unless you have proof). I personally love A-Net’s strategy for Guild Wars, and it’s still building momentum. Even now, “NO” other popular online RPG like Guild Wars offers the non-subscription fee route they offer. Which I think is a personal crime in this industry, (to have subscription fee's) no matter what you say about it (that’s my opinion).
In any game however there is room for improvement. Take it from George Lucas, “A movie is never finished, only abandoned,” this goes for video games as well. A-net still continues to grow on it’s orginal design, because a continuation of Guild Wars can be infinite if you think about it (any game unverse is). Yes the players (consumers) make the game go and keeps it alive. So looking to that fact, has there been any real downfall of numbers of players quiting Guild Wars. Unless it was a dramtic fault somewhere I have yet to see the masses leaving Guild Wars; (as if the world was ending for real) it won’t slow the design team down from creating that infinte possibilty.
Anyways on topic, considering that there are many people that live in certain ideologies, you can never stop them from saying that “something is coming to an end.” We pretty much get the idea that nothing lasts forever, but taking it to such extreme lengths will only undermine you (unless you have proof). I personally love A-Net’s strategy for Guild Wars, and it’s still building momentum. Even now, “NO” other popular online RPG like Guild Wars offers the non-subscription fee route they offer. Which I think is a personal crime in this industry, (to have subscription fee's) no matter what you say about it (that’s my opinion).
In any game however there is room for improvement. Take it from George Lucas, “A movie is never finished, only abandoned,” this goes for video games as well. A-net still continues to grow on it’s orginal design, because a continuation of Guild Wars can be infinite if you think about it (any game unverse is). Yes the players (consumers) make the game go and keeps it alive. So looking to that fact, has there been any real downfall of numbers of players quiting Guild Wars. Unless it was a dramtic fault somewhere I have yet to see the masses leaving Guild Wars; (as if the world was ending for real) it won’t slow the design team down from creating that infinte possibilty.
Hand of Ruin
This post was necessary. -.-
MMSDome
Amen to the thread starter! Ive been getting tired of seeing all you people go on about how the game is over, ITS NOT! Shit i still love playing Guild Wars, ranks right up there with my all time favorite games, and its not an easy task ranking next to Mario Kart!
We always need to remember however that only a small percentage of people use these forums and that not everyone in the world thinks GW is dying. the ones that dont come on forums are to damn busy playing the game because they enjoy it!!!
We always need to remember however that only a small percentage of people use these forums and that not everyone in the world thinks GW is dying. the ones that dont come on forums are to damn busy playing the game because they enjoy it!!!
Grais
Where are these posts? I just went back 15 pages(just a quik chek).
In fact I think the complaining about complainers has finally eclipsed itself, it seems almost every day there is a new thread about it, stand bye for utter confusion and anarchy.
PS:OK did a search for Guildwars dying, and I think I found the post that must have prompted this one. Its in Sardelac and was posted yesterday, my apologies Fishy.
In fact I think the complaining about complainers has finally eclipsed itself, it seems almost every day there is a new thread about it, stand bye for utter confusion and anarchy.
PS:OK did a search for Guildwars dying, and I think I found the post that must have prompted this one. Its in Sardelac and was posted yesterday, my apologies Fishy.
Anarkii
Stop making posts asking people to stop making posts about GW dying.
There, I said it!
Seriously, some people are upset with certain issues and exaggerate sometimes making those threads, and some people like the game and their counter-reaction is too forceful.
Complaining about complainers isnt a good thing
There, I said it!
Seriously, some people are upset with certain issues and exaggerate sometimes making those threads, and some people like the game and their counter-reaction is too forceful.
Complaining about complainers isnt a good thing
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freekedoutfish
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Where are these posts? I just went back 15 pages(just a quik chek).
In fact I think the complaining about complainers has finally eclipsed itself, it seems almost every day there is a new thread about it, stand bye for utter confusion and anarchy. PS:OK did a search for Guildwars dying, and I think I found the post that must have prompted this one. Its in Sardelac and was posted yesterday, my apologies Fishy. |
The other times ive seen people state the game is dying is inside threads. More often then not, in completely unrelated threads. People seem to be entering threads and then going off on tandums and talking about PUG numbers falling and THEN start on about how the entire game is dying.
But just to prove me right, search for threads called...
"Will Guild Wars be around for 5+ years? "
"Why GuildWars is Dying and How This Idea (player ratings) will save it." - uses the dying thing to get attention to his thread
"what guild wars could have been" - suggests come campaigns are dead
I know there are more...
aron searle
/devils advocate
3 million units now sold, good yes?
prophesies sold 2 million, hmmmm?
as i understood it the units sold figure includes all chapters, suggesting only half a milion units of factions and half a million of nightfall units have been sold???????????????
3 million units now sold, good yes?
prophesies sold 2 million, hmmmm?
as i understood it the units sold figure includes all chapters, suggesting only half a milion units of factions and half a million of nightfall units have been sold???????????????
Sirus Dibley
I wish people would stop making threads saying Guild Wars is NOT dying. Ignorance is bliss as they say.
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/devils advocate
3 million units now sold, good yes? prophesies sold 2 million, hmmmm? as i understood it the units sold figure includes all chapters, suggesting only half a milion units of factions and half a million of nightfall units have been sold??????????????? |
Here we go, a prophecy by me, Anet will announce 4 million units sold shortly after Chapter 4! ZOMG! I am the great Nostradamus risen from the dead!
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KamikazeChicken
Anyone claiming GW PvP is dying would be entirely correct though.
Effendi Westland
It is dying on my PC!!
but that's a connection issue with my isp
but that's a connection issue with my isp
Thermoblaze
Guys Gw is not dying!!!And who says that pls kill yourself.You see now they sold 3,000,000 copies of GW and that number is going up so don t worry becouse i think there will be more chapters of Gw.
P.S.i need to worry becouse my comp is a little old so i need to get one and that will be this summer
P.S.i need to worry becouse my comp is a little old so i need to get one and that will be this summer
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The two million units sold announcement came shortly after the release of Factions... which leads me to believe it included Factions sales. The three million announcement came, you guessed it, after Nightfall was released.
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I seem to remember it came before the release of factions, but dont know/cant be arsed to check.
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Ninna
press releases of GW Vitality
http://www.guildwars.com/press/releases/default.php
Players Flock to Guild Wars in Record-Breaking Numbers and Rack Up 20 Million Hours of Gameplay - January 2007
Guild Wars Exceeds Three million sold - December 2006
Guild Wars Hits Two Million - June 2006
Guild Wars Surpasses One Million Units Sold in North America and Europe - September 2005
http://www.guildwars.com/press/releases/default.php
Players Flock to Guild Wars in Record-Breaking Numbers and Rack Up 20 Million Hours of Gameplay - January 2007
Guild Wars Exceeds Three million sold - December 2006
Guild Wars Hits Two Million - June 2006
Guild Wars Surpasses One Million Units Sold in North America and Europe - September 2005
baz777
Think I’ll start a new thread: ‘the end of the world in nigh, and we are all going to die’
That should keep the doom merchants happy for a while
That should keep the doom merchants happy for a while
Str0b0
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LoL QFT without Guru Forums I'd have a very boring workday indeed.
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Im sat at work right now waiting that last 30 minutes to jump on a bus home. This is why I post ssoooo much, because ive very little else to do :P
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I seriously think that complaining about the complainers in a new thread is getting a bit tiresome here at Guru. I know some here think the mods are a bit harsh on closing threads sometimes but I personally think there should be more of it. I think the OP could have just posted his opinion in one of those threads he is talking about and call it a day and shouldn't have started a thread about a thread IMHO.
No offense OP, I have agreed with some stuff you have said in the past
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I LOL'd. Its all I do at work when Im bored.
I seriously think that complaining about the complainers in a new thread is getting a bit tiresome here at Guru. I know some here think the mods are a bit harsh on closing threads sometimes but I personally think there should be more of it. I think the OP could have just posted his opinion in one of those threads he is talking about and call it a day and shouldn't have started a thread about a thread IMHO. No offense OP, I have agreed with some stuff you have said in the past |