oh the touchie our good ol' friend
You just got tomahawked
I play RA alot with my monk. I don't usually play a healing monk because you need protection from wars, sins, thumpers wailing on you. So, until recently I'd come across a touchie once and awhile and they'd tear me apart because im prot and the most I can do is heal myself with Divine Favor. But recently they've invaded. Just about every match now there is a touchie and it's starting to get on my nerves. I play HA with my guildies too. In HA, the most elite PvP arena, there was a group of touchies. I know this has been brought up before, but touchies are getting out of hand. Does anyone want to enlighten me as how I, a monk, can stop a touchie? Also I think that people that play touchies are the people that haven't played the game for too long. Am I right on this? Why do people play touchie's? There are so many better builds out there. Why hasn't Anet lit it up with the nerf laser yet?
MSecorsky
Try a paragon secondary and take the skill "Can't touch this". Seems worth a shot...
Saphatorael
lol @ you calling HA the most elite PvP arena.
Also, I haven't seen touchies for 2 weeks in RA/TA/HA
Maybe you're just unlucky, but it's a build like any other... you say you know there's better builds out there... then why complain about them using an inferior one?
Oh, and on how to 'beat' them as a monk... kite or snare.. since you're playing a prot monk, just switch to ZB... you can easily outheal their life stealing, and even snare them using Return if you're using the Mo/A variant.
/lock, pwetty pwease?
Also, I haven't seen touchies for 2 weeks in RA/TA/HA
Maybe you're just unlucky, but it's a build like any other... you say you know there's better builds out there... then why complain about them using an inferior one?
Oh, and on how to 'beat' them as a monk... kite or snare.. since you're playing a prot monk, just switch to ZB... you can easily outheal their life stealing, and even snare them using Return if you're using the Mo/A variant.
/lock, pwetty pwease?
You just got tomahawked
Kiting does not always work because they kud have a sin on their team and they could cripple or shadow prison. i can counter the sin but then the touchie will catch up with me. Or the touchie could use a speed boost. And sorry my bad GvG is the most elite. still, What has caused the recen upsurge of touchies? and Why doesn't Anet nerf them?
Grais
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You just got tomahawked
Can't touch this on a monk.................................. right...............
Fluffyx
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Kiting does not always work because they kud have a sin on their team and they could cripple or shadow prison. i can counter the sin but then the touchie will catch up with me. Or the touchie could use a speed boost. And sorry my bad GvG is the most elite. still, What has caused the recen upsurge of touchies? and Why doesn't Anet nerf them?
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trobinson97
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Kiting does not always work because they kud have a sin on their team and they could cripple or shadow prison. i can counter the sin but then the touchie will catch up with me. Or the touchie could use a speed boost. And sorry my bad GvG is the most elite. still, What has caused the recen upsurge of touchies? and Why doesn't Anet nerf them?
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The better question is why do you want Anet to nerf the buld. Is it because you keep getting beat by them? Honestly I haven't seen as many touchers lately as I used to, the popularity seems to be waning a bit in my eyes.
People go a little crazy with the nerf calls. Just nerf everything that works.
Diablo???
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... but touchies are getting out of hand.
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oops. Guess I made one too
Alleji
Oh noes, there was a group of touchers in HA! Touchers are getting out of hand! Run for the hills!
*ahem*
As a prot monk, you can't do much except for playing in teams that don't suck. Yeah, I know this doesn't apply for RA, but everywhere else, this is a toucher's best friend:
[skill]Diversion[/skill]
In HA you can nuke them with massive AoE:
[skill]Sandstorm[/skill] [skill]Searing Flames[/skill] [skill]Spiritual Pain[/skill]
You can also kite touchers:
[skill]Ward Against Foes[/skill] [skill]Gale[/skill]
Or simply outheal them:
[skill]Mending[/skill]
*ahem*
As a prot monk, you can't do much except for playing in teams that don't suck. Yeah, I know this doesn't apply for RA, but everywhere else, this is a toucher's best friend:
[skill]Diversion[/skill]
In HA you can nuke them with massive AoE:
[skill]Sandstorm[/skill] [skill]Searing Flames[/skill] [skill]Spiritual Pain[/skill]
You can also kite touchers:
[skill]Ward Against Foes[/skill] [skill]Gale[/skill]
Or simply outheal them:
[skill]Mending[/skill]
You just got tomahawked
no I can prot against 4 wars/sins/thumpers w/e u want the problem arises when Im snared and the touchie just unleashes on me. If A-net nerfs the spirit bonder then the touchie w/o a doubt needs to be nerfed.
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no I can prot against 4 wars/sins/thumpers w/e u want the problem arises when Im snared and the touchie just unleashes on me. If A-net nerfs the spirit bonder then the touchie w/o a doubt needs to be nerfed.
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JR
Kite lots, and then kill them because they suck?
Guild Wars is a team game. If your team is letting you get ripped apart by touchers then you need to look at why.
Guild Wars is a team game. If your team is letting you get ripped apart by touchers then you need to look at why.
Alleji
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Your build can't go against everything? Welcome to guild wars. :]
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Faer
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I play RA alot with my monk.
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Does anyone want to enlighten me as how I, a monk, can stop a touchie?
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I'm not a huge fan of the spell personally, but it's a decent one to have around if you are running into too much Toucher Trouble as a Protection Monk.
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Also I think that people that play touchies are the people that haven't played the game for too long. Am I right on this?
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Why do people play touchie's? There are so many better builds out there.
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Why hasn't Anet lit it up with the nerf laser yet?
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They did, but not many people seem to have noticed, which is understandable given the limited use of the skill.
FoxBat
Protection from 3 or 4 touch attacks every 20 seconds for 10e isn't that impressive against rangers that can constantly spam them. Diversion, snares are much stronger counters, that's partly why the paragon skill never sees any use.
Bankai
Why hello there.
My name is Zealous Benediction, and I rape RA.
My name is Zealous Benediction, and I rape RA.
Mr_T_bot
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Try a paragon secondary and take the skill "Can't touch this". Seems worth a shot...
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I Phoenix I
Well, it's not that hard to bring [skill]"Can't Touch This!"[/skill] as a Monk, actually, as, if you can stand up to 4 Wars/Sins/Thumpers/other, surely it won't affect you that much with P as secondary...just stick like 6 or 7 in Command...
Kaida the Heartless
We just need to figure out some way to get a toucher to work with necromancer primaries. Then, Anet is sure to nerf it, just like all other necro skills! >:]
Touchers are like wolves, they are usually only effective in packs. Instead of using all protection on your bar, try to use some healing spells as well. Hybrid monks can adapt to more situations. ZB was a good suggestion. Running an assassin secondary isnt a bad idea either!
Touchers are like wolves, they are usually only effective in packs. Instead of using all protection on your bar, try to use some healing spells as well. Hybrid monks can adapt to more situations. ZB was a good suggestion. Running an assassin secondary isnt a bad idea either!
Jetdoc
Zealous Benediction is by far the best way for a monk to handle a toucher, and have a skill that has a pretty darn good use if you don't face a toucher.
If you're a Mo/Me (like many RA monks), you can always carry Ethereal/Kitah's Burden to run away from the toucher (or anyone else you need to kite). Even at 0 Illusion, you can easily escape in those 10 seconds, giving your team more than enough time to take the toucher down.
If you're a Mo/Me (like many RA monks), you can always carry Ethereal/Kitah's Burden to run away from the toucher (or anyone else you need to kite). Even at 0 Illusion, you can easily escape in those 10 seconds, giving your team more than enough time to take the toucher down.
Alleji
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If you're a Mo/Me (like many RA monks), you can always carry Ethereal/Kitah's Burden to run away from the toucher (or anyone else you need to kite). Even at 0 Illusion, you can easily escape in those 10 seconds, giving your team more than enough time to take the toucher down.
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As for ZB, I just assumed he was running that already, like any intelligent RA monk would. If not, try ZB.
MegaMouse
Ah the subject of touchers. I have a toucher and they can be quite anoying I will admit that. Until someone can come up with a suitable counter or A-Net brings on the "nerf laser" there will be touchers everywhere. Players found a build that works, unfortunatly too well. I have been on the receiving end of a toucher also and it is rather frustrating when you are hitting them for all that you got and pretty much killing yourself. Lets all try to find something that will stop them and pass that nw build around.
mega Mouse
mega Mouse
Fluffyx
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Ah the subject of touchers. I have a toucher and they can be quite anoying I will admit that. Until someone can come up with a suitable counter or A-Net brings on the "nerf laser" there will be touchers everywhere. Players found a build that works, unfortunatly too well. I have been on the receiving end of a toucher also and it is rather frustrating when you are hitting them for all that you got and pretty much killing yourself. Lets all try to find something that will stop them and pass that nw build around.
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You just got tomahawked
cant touch this is horrible. The touchie loses maybe 5 damage and I refuse to put diversion in my MONK build.
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In HA, the most elite PvP arena, there was a group of touchies.
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Yes You
Couldnt be!
Then WHO?
T N Player
have a secondary as necro and use shivers of dread and inturrpt them, my necro cant be touched that way
You just got tomahawked
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Coloneh
Arcane Thievery destroys touchers. they only carry one spell and will crumble horribly without it. also just throw on a cripple and run. you obviously will never be able to counter them as heal/prot monk, thats not what monks are for, thats what mesmers are for.
Clinically Proven
Let me tell you a story, in the same style as the original post:
We were in HA and there was lots of touchers chasing our monk, so he ran away and called out for Mr Warrior. Mr Warrior came over to the touchers and he did crippling slash, sever, gash, final while the mesmer cast spells on the same guy and the touchers had no monk and they died.
We was really happy cause we won more fame
The End.
We were in HA and there was lots of touchers chasing our monk, so he ran away and called out for Mr Warrior. Mr Warrior came over to the touchers and he did crippling slash, sever, gash, final while the mesmer cast spells on the same guy and the touchers had no monk and they died.
We was really happy cause we won more fame
The End.
Apple
Gimping your own build in favour of a direct counter turns the game into Rock, paper, scissors. Dont change your skill bar for a direct counter ever.
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You need to go suffer in a ditch.
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(btw, I was Demonic Touch N Go in Apples screen)
Kakumei
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Faer
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I refuse to put diversion in my MONK build.
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So much.
shardfenix
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So, until recently I'd come across a touchie once and awhile and they'd tear me apart because im prot and the most I can do is heal myself with Divine Favor. But recently they've invaded. Just about every match now there is a touchie and it's starting to get on my nerves.
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In HA, the most elite PvP arena
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...there was a group of touchies. I know this has been brought up before, but touchies are getting out of hand. Does anyone want to enlighten me as how I, a monk, can stop a touchie? Also I think that people that play touchies are the people that haven't played the game for too long. Am I right on this? Why do people play touchie's? There are so many better builds out there. Why hasn't Anet lit it up with the nerf laser yet?
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Anet will never nerf touch rangers, for the same reason HA will always suck. Anet doesn't care about pvp.
Tactical-Dillusions
The game design dictates that there will always be something that will beat you.
If you change your build to counter one thing, you are guaranteed to be beaten by something else. Playing a monk does not make you invincible.
Stop calling for nerfs just because you don't like something. Instead, find a way to beat them.
Anet knows that touch rangers aren't that good. They are limited to what punishment they can take and eventually will run out of energy before a good healing monk.
Try P&H to increase your regen and divine spirit while you fill up again or bring a snare.
A touch ranger that can't get adjacent to you is as good as dead. So too is one with heavy degen. They rely on touching as a means to heal up.
I've not seen a single one in RA today, except for myself when i was between test builds. Did i kill anyone? Nope.
If you change your build to counter one thing, you are guaranteed to be beaten by something else. Playing a monk does not make you invincible.
Stop calling for nerfs just because you don't like something. Instead, find a way to beat them.
Anet knows that touch rangers aren't that good. They are limited to what punishment they can take and eventually will run out of energy before a good healing monk.
Try P&H to increase your regen and divine spirit while you fill up again or bring a snare.
A touch ranger that can't get adjacent to you is as good as dead. So too is one with heavy degen. They rely on touching as a means to heal up.
I've not seen a single one in RA today, except for myself when i was between test builds. Did i kill anyone? Nope.
Brother Andicus
Dont listen to the dude above, he just mentioned Peace and Harmony which reduces his credibility to near 0.
[skill]Zealous Benediction[/skill] and [skill]Return[/skill] are the way to go. Combined, they pwn touchers, and are pretty handy vs all melee classes too.
[skill]Zealous Benediction[/skill] and [skill]Return[/skill] are the way to go. Combined, they pwn touchers, and are pretty handy vs all melee classes too.
pigdestroyer
I dont ever have problems with touchers as a monk... you should look into not noobie builds
You just got tomahawked
Touchies need to die. GG.
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Touchies need to die. GG.
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Apple thats some funny shit, bummer about the sig