Mapping Out by Aylee Sedai

Kaolla

Kaolla

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

AxS

Rt/

Hi again Aylee, been thinking of a few little things I thought I might suggest. My last post mentioned if you could add "Always on top" option for windowed mode guild wars but I don't know if you saw it. I also decided to start using your character's thing. I when I made a new character I was lookin' at the buttons and I thought it would be more appropriate for cancel to be called closed, in case people make a character and think "uh oh, how do I close this without undoing what I just done?"

And finally I was thinking it would be easier to read off the elites if when you right clicked it, the pop-up box stayed up until you clicked the pop-up box.

Keep up the great work I can't really tell you how much I appreciate your tool as I'm on dial-up and browsing wiki for info tends to be a hassle. Thanks again!

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

I want to say thanks a lot, too.

The best things are that the program is small, I copied it in my GW directory. It also takes little resources and it runs very well in windowed mode. This makes it easy to play GW windowed and keep it open. This allows me to check the next region for Elite skills I might need beforehand.

Much better than browing on Wiki, which unfortunately got slow lately.

Aylee Sedai

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

La Ruota Del Tempo

E/Me

Kaolla,
I saw your last post and adding the form on top feature in on the top of my todos checklist. I was also pondering to add another mouse options, in order to leave popup windows always open, till you click again somewhere
So, your ideas are very cool for me

Longasc,
I agree with you. MappingOut uses about 10Mb of memory. When you load the greatest map, it reaches 13mb, but never grows bigger than this. I see other gw tools using 170mb of RAM... this is quite insane!
I will continue on keeping MappingOut system requests as low as ever, so we can continue loading it while playng GW

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

As you seem to be online atm, one quick suggestion:

Elite Skills that you already captured are shown as green shields with a checkmark. But it is no longer displays WHICH elite you captured there, only the green item.

It would be nice if the skill could still be displayed, as some Elites are worthwhile for several classes. I capped Ebon Dust Aura e.g. for Warrior, Ranger, Paragon and Dervish.

Aylee Sedai

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

La Ruota Del Tempo

E/Me

Longasc,
Here's in details what was in my mind, when I chose this kind of behavious (with captured elite, not mine behaviour ):
- the green shield with a sword on it means there is a greeny there (I stole the image from Wiki... shhhh)
- the combobox in the menu window allow you to choose you charcater. If you captured an elite with your warrior and choose itself in the "not captured by", MappingOut won't show that elite. Neither It does, even if you select "not captured by <<<Anyone>>>". But if you select another of your characters with whom you didn't captured that skill, MappingOut will show it again.
(oh god, I wish I succeeded in writing in some of readable english... these sentences were too long for my brain )
Anyway, this is what I intended to realize... However I could change something to make it usefull!

Feathermoore Rep

Feathermoore Rep

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

PM me for JACT Invite

Feathermoore Clan

R/Mo

Heres a quick change Jerneh Nightbringer no longer spawns in Marga Coast. I've done several runs (I kept forgetting why i hadn't capped it there) and he has never appeared. As well, wiki comfirms the fact that he no longer spawns there.

Aylee Sedai

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

La Ruota Del Tempo

E/Me

Feathermoore Rep,
I saw it ... I already ripped it off. Next update will fix that...
Thanks!

sykoone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mystical Chaos

E/

My guildmates had a couple of questions about possible new additions, so I thought I gather them up and ask. I've gotten my entire guild hooked on it. We all love it!

Would it be possible to add a green item checklist, similar to the elite checklist, for those of us that like to collect the unique weapons?

How much trouble would it be to add a mission / quest checklist? Or possibly just a quest-giver locator?

Aylee Sedai

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

La Ruota Del Tempo

E/Me

sykoone,

about greenys checklist, it could be done. I think, as you also said, it could be useful only to anyone is collecting green items. So, maybe I could create a checklist not based on a single character, but for all characters. So that you haven't to choose with whom you are collecting the item, but only if the greeny has been found or not. Let me know what you think of this or if you had thought about something different

mission/quest
This is another matter of fact. Quests or just quest-givers are a loooooot! really too much On the other side, missions are not so much, and I have thought about them yet. I'm thinking about a huge update, with bigger maps fully explored (not so much bigger, just a little bit), outposts and towns drawn by my own, so I can also add a mission check list and the NPCs in every outposts... But I am only thinking about it... just thinking

sykoone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mystical Chaos

E/

The green list being unlinked to a particular character would work quite well, I think. I figured the quest idea would be a bit much, but I promised I'd ask anyway. As for the missions, I'd personally love a master's/bonus checklist on that.

Keep up the great work!

ikpt

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aylee Sedai
sykoone,

about greenys checklist, it could be done. I think, as you also said, it could be useful only to anyone is collecting green items. So, maybe I could create a checklist not based on a single character, but for all characters. So that you haven't to choose with whom you are collecting the item, but only if the greeny has been found or not. Let me know what you think of this or if you had thought about something different

mission/quest
This is another matter of fact. Quests or just quest-givers are a loooooot! really too much On the other side, missions are not so much, and I have thought about them yet. I'm thinking about a huge update, with bigger maps fully explored (not so much bigger, just a little bit), outposts and towns drawn by my own, so I can also add a mission check list and the NPCs in every outposts... But I am only thinking about it... just thinking
I'm very impressed that you still consider adding a lot of work to the program, instead of just doing minor little fixes or tweaks on it. The program is great, and I'll be checking the thread daily to see how it goes and to see what you're planning for MappingOut. Very great job.

Kaolla

Kaolla

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

AxS

Rt/

I'm starting to wonder what you'll do when you run out of things to do on Mapping Out. Mayhaps you have new projects planned for when that happens? See, I wish I could do the things you can, because I would love to make like a Skills Dictionary where I can quickly find out where to get even the most obscure skill and all that jazz. But the most I could do towards something like that is copy the info and paste it all in notebook. T_T

At any rate, looking forward to the update.

King Kong

King Kong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaolla
I'm starting to wonder what you'll do when you run out of things to do on Mapping Out. Mayhaps you have new projects planned for when that happens? See, I wish I could do the things you can, because I would love to make like a Skills Dictionary where I can quickly find out where to get even the most obscure skill and all that jazz. But the most I could do towards something like that is copy the info and paste it all in notebook. T_T

At any rate, looking forward to the update.
You could aways try to learn! Microsoft do a free Visual Basic etc now

Link

Mournblade

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

Hey Aylee! I went to cap Aura of Faith last night and discovered you have it placed incorrectly in the Ring of Fire mission. It (Coventina) should spawn just a few centimeters north of where you currently have it placed. It's just south of that thin stream of lava that you have to walk through when you go through the mission.

Thanks as always!

Kaolla

Kaolla

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

AxS

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by King Kong
You could aways try to learn! Microsoft do a free Visual Basic etc now

Link
Oh, trust me, I've tried learning. Problem is I'm more of a visual learner, and the more complicated the writing, the harder it is for me to understand. So basically, I'm a moron. :C

Aylee Sedai

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

La Ruota Del Tempo

E/Me

Mournblade,
sigh... bloody Coventina... I trusted what I read on Wiki. It reports only the six points marked with a red cross I drew on the map And now, you're telling me Coventina spawns elsewhere... grrrr... Have to find some more information, about other bosses spawning in th same locations, too.

Kaolla,
actually I'm wondering If I will ever succeed in finishing MappingOut!!! -.-
There are still lots of thing to do... looooooottssss! I still can't see an end... but I'm happy for this. Moreover, I'm sure that as soon as I finish, ArenaNet will release Chapter 4... so, I will have new things to work on!

Aylee Sedai

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

La Ruota Del Tempo

E/Me

MappingOut v2.0.0 has arrived!

Here's the new features.

10-02-2007 (v2.0.0)
MAJOR ONES
- added another option: always on top feature (by Kaolla)
- added another option in Mouse behaviour. You can know just right click on an item and the popup window will stay opened, till you click again somewhere else. (by Madoran, Kaolla)
- added another option in Mouse behaviour. Right click on a free map zone to show a popup window, in which you can select the campaign and the region.
- added "Lightbringer Signet" and "Junundu Siege" elites
- added an alternative ftp servers in the updater. "The Lair" (official italian fansite) now hosts MappingOut... Thanks
- applied all changes made by ArenaNet in the last huge skills balance updates (1st feb and 9th feb 2007)

MINOR ONES
- fixed the name of the elite "Spoil Victor" (by H B)
- added link to "The Lair" and my guild forum in the option schedule.
- fixed popup window position when map size is small
- the "Mark" button in the treasure window is now called "Done"
- fixed position of Jerneh Nightbringer in "The Floodplain of Mahnkelon". and deleted Jerneh's spawning position in Marga Coast.
- fixed location for "Shekoss the Stony" (by FusionU)
- added some missing translations
- fixed the position of the Treasure in "Ruptured Heart" (by Mournblade)
- fixed the name of "Realm of Torment" region. Previously named "Real of Torment" (by Akaraxle)
- fixed some nightfall collectors: Lahati, Gamyuka, Nikun, Talmehinu, Munashe (by TuShan)

Mournblade

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aylee Sedai
Mournblade,
sigh... bloody Coventina... I trusted what I read on Wiki. It reports only the six points marked with a red cross I drew on the map And now, you're telling me Coventina spawns elsewhere... grrrr... Have to find some more information, about other bosses spawning in th same locations, too.
Actually, this particular marker shows Coventina as a [C]onditional spawn right at the beginning of the mission. The red X marked on the map is correct.

Here's the map section from Wiki, which matches your red X's.

Aylee Sedai

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

La Ruota Del Tempo

E/Me

Mournblade,
first of all, I have to apologize with Coventina! Sorry Covy
Then, I have also to apologize with Mournblade, because I still can't see what is the problem. My english is not so good, and sometimes I don't understand very much
Trying to figure out the problem, here's the actual situation:
1) Coventina is shown as a [C]onditional spawn
2) conditional spawn note is: "can spawn in one out of the six locations, marked with a red cross" (which means She doesn't spawn where the elite marker is, but in one of those locations)
3) red crossed marked on the map are correct (as you told me)
Now, I didn't get the error
Really sorry... as I said, my enlish sometimes sucks!
Yuo have to invent some one to make me understand, eh eh!

Veneficus

Veneficus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

UK

Great work Aylee

I would like to add a request, to be able to show elites for more than one proffesion at one time.

For example,

Im a Paragon / Dervish

And im looking for Elites in Kourna.

So it would be

Campaign : Nightfall
Region : Kourna
Zone : All
Proffesion : Paragon + Dervish


Because i find myself having to click on one proffesion then back to another all the time. Would be excellent if you can implement that!!

Thanks again,
Veneficus

Mournblade

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aylee Sedai
Mournblade,
first of all, I have to apologize with Coventina! Sorry Covy
Then, I have also to apologize with Mournblade, because I still can't see what is the problem. My english is not so good, and sometimes I don't understand very much
Trying to figure out the problem, here's the actual situation:
1) Coventina is shown as a [C]onditional spawn
2) conditional spawn note is: "can spawn in one out of the six locations, marked with a red cross" (which means She doesn't spawn where the elite marker is, but in one of those locations)
3) red crossed marked on the map are correct (as you told me)
Now, I didn't get the error
Really sorry... as I said, my enlish sometimes sucks!
Yuo have to invent some one to make me understand, eh eh!
LoL! No need to apologize to me - you're doing an outstanding job.

Here is a copy of my MappingOut screen:



This shows the [C] in the wrong spot, and where the red X's are. This makes it look like Coventina spawns right at the start of the mission. I sure wish THAT were true when I was capping her elite. =)

And actually, it appears that all of the elites in Ring of Fire mission show up that way:


Does that help explain what is wrong? None of the [C] locations in the circle should be there.

Veneficus

Veneficus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

UK

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mournblade
LoL! No need to apologize to me - you're doing an outstanding job.

Here is a copy of my MappingOut screen:



This shows the [C] in the wrong spot, and where the red X's are. This makes it look like Coventina spawns right at the start of the mission. I sure wish THAT were true when I was capping her elite. =)

And actually, it appears that all of the elites in Ring of Fire mission show up that way:


Does that help explain what is wrong? None of the [C] locations in the circle should be there.
Well what Aylee is trying to say is Coventina can spawn anywhere where the red X's are.
So the legend of [A] [B] [C] has to be put somewhere.

Its because all Ring of Fire spawns can be any one of the bosses, hope this clears it up..

Mournblade

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

If it's just a placeholder (legend) then it is misleading because it makes it appear that any boss can spawn right at the beginning of the mission. Some of the other areas have the [C] off to the side and not on the actual map. Am I the only one that saw this as an error?

Veneficus

Veneficus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

UK

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mournblade
If it's just a placeholder (legend) then it is misleading because it makes it appear that any boss can spawn right at the beginning of the mission. Some of the other areas have the [C] off to the side and not on the actual map. Am I the only one that saw this as an error?
Well theres so many spawns on the map that its hard to find a place to put the legend.

It only appears as an error when you select one class's elite, because it appears to show it spawning at the beginning.

If you actually read the [C] it says she can spawn at any of the red x's.
So its not an error, just a bit confusing.

Aylee Sedai

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

La Ruota Del Tempo

E/Me

Mournblade,
I see. Now I understand what you mean. None of the [C] locationsin that circle were meant to indicate the exact position of the bosses. As I wrote in thein note, bosses owening those elite skills could spawn in one of the six red-crossed marks on the map.
Unfortunately, I had to place the elite markers somewhere, and I chose those locations, at the beginning of the mission. Now, I realized they create confusion... maybe I should move them more close to the "Ring OF Fire" outpost.
Moreover, a similar representation can be found in "Mineral Spring" and "Grenth's Footprints" (Southern Shivepeaks).
If anyone can find a better solution than the one I have chosen, please let me know... I will change it to make it clearer

Aylee Sedai

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

La Ruota Del Tempo

E/Me

ADD ON
Actually, in other prophecies regions, I used to place them in a different way. When more bosses can spwan in the same location, I draw their marks close to each other. Here, in this specific case, I can't... They won't fit, because they're too much
I found no other way. I could have chosen another letter, instead of [C], maybe [X], to manage such a case. But I didn't do that, just to not use too many letters and confusing people... Result.. I confused you even more
Ad I said above, if anyone came out with a suggestion on how I can manage this matter, pleeeaasse, tell me
May the Light keep shining on you.

Kaolla

Kaolla

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

AxS

Rt/

Just wonderin', are Resurrection Shrines going to be in the next update? I'm really needing them for my Sunspear and Lightbringer point farming. :S

By the way, 2.0 rocks. Good job yet again. ^_~

Mournblade

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

I guess the only solution I can come up with would be to move those boxes to the left, over the water, vertically along the border of Abbadons Mouth. At least then nobody *cough* could think they were actual spawn points. =)

EmptySkull

EmptySkull

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

KaoS League

E/

Just a note to say thanks for an awsome prgram. I grabbed it and have made a profle of all 10 of my charcters. Now I just reference it to see where I need to go. Thanks again. I recommend it for any serious GW player. I would give you money for this program but you prolly couldn't take any. Thanks again!

Aylee Sedai

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

La Ruota Del Tempo

E/Me

Kaolla,
I checked Resurrection Shrines... they're a lot. And when I say "a lot" I mean: TOO MUCH!!! Surely they won't be added in next updates, maybe I will work on them, when I will have finished some other major feature (on the top, at the moment, I think I should place a "multilanguage option"... since MappingOut has reached lots of foreign countries ).

Mournblade,
I will do as you suggest. It seems a good solution to me and even an EASY ONE... which means a lot to me ghghgh

To everybody,
next thiry days will be very hard for me... cause my job and... my degree thesis! the gradutation day in march the 16th, and I'm not sure to succeed completing my work... so, I have to work hardly on that, more than on MappingOut .
Anyway, It will be only a small pause, I will come back again with new update as soon as possible.
But don't stop giving me advices!!! I still keep on taking note of them, so I will be ready to continue adding new featueres

May the Light shine on you all!

PS: I'm not really sure I will abandon completilt mappingout for the next 30 days... Maybe, at night, I will still keep on working on it eheh... It's my little son, I can't deny my love!

Mournblade

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

Yeah, thats definitely some hard work. Good luck to you! =)

dragonskull

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Hey Aylee, thanks for this awesome program !
/bows deeply
Just don't tell us you're sorry if there's a little fault in your program. You did a great job and NO software comes without fault.... Thanks once again and take care ! Btw your 'son' will understand why you'll have a little less attention for him

Aylee Sedai

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

La Ruota Del Tempo

E/Me

MappingOut v2.0.1
IF YOU USE THE AUTOMATIC UPDATE OPTION, READ THIS:
For this time only, you have to choose "La Ruota Del Tempo [RdT]" server ftp, from the two available. "The Lair" ftp server won't work this time. Since next update, it will work again.



14-02-2007 (v2.0.1) - minor update
- added Secondary Profession filter, in the elite schedule (by udoh)
- fixed elite and locations list. Now they always have the same dimensions. It means locations list is quite bigger than before (by Feathermoore Rep)

- changed logos in the option schedule... now, they shouldn't make you get blind anymore!
- fixed image for "Song of Purification", "Smoke Trap" and "Scavenger's focus" elite skills (by Abe)
- fixed some minor bugs

Veneficus

Veneficus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

UK

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aylee Sedai
- added Secondary Profession filter, in the elite schedule (by udoh)

Wow, all i can say is Wow!.

Excellent work Aylee, its perfect now

Thanks again for an excellent program

Aylee Sedai

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

La Ruota Del Tempo

E/Me

By the way,
with this update I wish elite locatons list is now more practical. It should also have solved any remaining problems with low screen resolution monitor... maybe!

May the Light shine on you.

Kaolla

Kaolla

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

AxS

Rt/

Hi Aylee. Been a while since I saw anything happen to this thread. Nope, no suggestions this time I just wanted to see what you're up to. Can we expect more to come from MappingOut? I can't believe this isn't getting more popularity this is the best tool I've found on any of the fansites and yet suddenly all talk just stops here. Making me wonder if everyone moved over to your website and chatting it up about the tool there. XD

Lemme know what's goin' down if you don't mind

jase the warrior

jase the warrior

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

England

W/

Been using this for a bit now, VERY helpful, dont have to surf the net for what i am looking for now....

GOOD WORK!

Mournblade

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaolla
Hi Aylee. Been a while since I saw anything happen to this thread. Nope, no suggestions this time I just wanted to see what you're up to. Can we expect more to come from MappingOut? I can't believe this isn't getting more popularity this is the best tool I've found on any of the fansites and yet suddenly all talk just stops here. Making me wonder if everyone moved over to your website and chatting it up about the tool there. XD

Lemme know what's goin' down if you don't mind
Try scrolling up to post #150 and reading it all the way through.

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

E/

Haven't been able to update to the lastest version yet, but didn't see them addressed in your notes. These are issues I found in the previous version:
Realm of Torment is misspelled as Real of Torment in the zone dropdown.

The treasure chest in the Ruptered Heart is sorta close to where it actually appears, but not quite there. It is further north in the rocky zone after you go through that little curl of yellow sand next to the NPC ghost there.

Aylee Sedai

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

La Ruota Del Tempo

E/Me

Hi everybody,
I'm not disappeared ... As I said a couple of messages above, I was working on my degree thesis. Since I proceeded faster than I expected, I also worked "a bit" on MappingOUt ghgh
Actually, this "bit" is not so small, and I'm nearly to release another update, which would be a "great" update in my opinion. Here's a little briefing of the upcoming news:
- I added ALL missing maps for Tyria and Cantha (Ascalon pre and post searing, Northen Shivepeaks, Kryta, Maguuma and Shing Jea island)
- I also added ALL missing collectors and ALL missing greens (so, now you can find ALL collectors, even the low level ones)
- other smaller and not so smaller updates, which I will list once I release the new version...

As I wrote, It will be a quite big update, infact the new version will be v3.0.0.
Btw, since I completed most of the things I had in my mind, I think that I will release it very soon... maybe this night (at my GTM +1) ghgh

May the Light shine on you all

PS FOR CHERNO:
Those errors you pointed out had been corrected in version 2.0.0.
If you still haven't been able to update the program, try these three methods:
1) Choose the second ftp server address, so not the default one ("The Lair"), but "La Ruota Del Tempo"
2) go to my guild forum ad download the full version 2.0.1
http://laruotadeltempo.forumfree.net/?t=13818920
3) wait till I release next update and download THAT full version ghghgh