... Or bad? Or perhaps do you think that you will completely have forgotten about it?
Is GW a game that has that sort of lasting power... that it will be remembered and cherrised, or will everyone move on?
I came to think of this when seeing this news story on the Wow expansion, where thousands of people in the uk flocked at midnight to play the game: http://www.gamespot.com/news/6164196.html
Im just wondering if you guys think that GW will eventually be the same kind of phenomenon? will there be big GW events where many people will dress out... or is it too late for GW?
20 Years from now, will you think back at GW as something good?
Lawnmower
Zinger314
(Yeesh, this isn't just baseless speculation, this is hypothetical baseless speculation!)
Somehow, I doubt you'll have Guild Wars on your mind in 20 years. Do you even remember games from 20 years ago?
We'll be playing games with 1 TB RAM, DirectX 15, and a 512 GB Graphic card, and a 1 Thz processor. Would we want to think back?
People remember games like EQ and WoW because they were flagships for the MMORPG franchise. Guild Wars isn't.
Somehow, I doubt you'll have Guild Wars on your mind in 20 years. Do you even remember games from 20 years ago?
We'll be playing games with 1 TB RAM, DirectX 15, and a 512 GB Graphic card, and a 1 Thz processor. Would we want to think back?
People remember games like EQ and WoW because they were flagships for the MMORPG franchise. Guild Wars isn't.
Burn Butt
Ah... for the old fart that I am now (32 years old) I sure remember games from 20 years ago.... Longer than that even. From Pac Man to Karateka to Super Mario Brothers... the list goes on and on.
I can honestly say I have never spent more time on a game in my life than I have on Guild Wars. I know it will be something I remember for my whole life... Whether it's effects will be something I subjectivly look back on as "good" ... who knows. Also, I think WoW is MUCH bigger than Guild Wars and probably will stay that way. Personally, I prefer Guild Wars because of the pricing model. I really like the idea that I can step away and come back whenever I want to, and I'm not beholden to the game due to subscription fees where I feel like I HAVE to play to get my money's worth. At least I know with Guild Wars why I play.
I can honestly say I have never spent more time on a game in my life than I have on Guild Wars. I know it will be something I remember for my whole life... Whether it's effects will be something I subjectivly look back on as "good" ... who knows. Also, I think WoW is MUCH bigger than Guild Wars and probably will stay that way. Personally, I prefer Guild Wars because of the pricing model. I really like the idea that I can step away and come back whenever I want to, and I'm not beholden to the game due to subscription fees where I feel like I HAVE to play to get my money's worth. At least I know with Guild Wars why I play.
Lawnmower
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(Yeesh, this isn't just baseless speculation, this is hypothetical baseless speculation!)
Somehow, I doubt you'll have Guild Wars on your mind in 20 years. Do you even remember games from 20 years ago? We'll be playing games with 1 TB RAM, DirectX 15, and a 512 GB Graphic card, and a 1 Thz processor. Would we want to think back? People remember games like EQ and WoW because they were flagships for the MMORPG franchise. Guild Wars isn't. |
lyra_song
I think GW will definitely be remembered.
Wether its for good things or bad things, depends on the way the business model holds out.
Wether its for good things or bad things, depends on the way the business model holds out.
Zinger314
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I think GW will definitely be remembered.
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Exactly.
Mr Jazzy
I doubt i'll still be playing games 20 years from now (16 atm) and i pretty much use guild wars as a time killer. guild wars is fun though, and if anything, i'd associate it with a good (but sometimes tedious and boring) time.
Xenex Xclame
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We'll be playing games with 1 TB RAM, DirectX 15, and a 512 GB Graphic card, and a 1 Thz processor.
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a 512 GB videocard! OMG! :POk now about the topic, i agree with zinger, i doubt ill remember GuildWars in 20 years, i mean of course ill remember i used to play a game which i "wasted" a few years of my life on , but dont think much then that.
Im 22 now and i do remember me enjoying ( and laughing at my mother trying )every single hour of mario brothers in the NES yes thats less then 20 years ago but its still the same thing GuildWars just isnt that big of a game be remembered that much, sure its free and still a mmo, but thats not enough.
PS. Who the hell did invent to CC?I know its first place was US.
explodemyheart
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Who invented the credit card?
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lyra_song
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The credit card was the successor of a variety of merchant credit schemes. It was first used in the 1920s, in the United States, specifically to sell fuel to a growing number of automobile owners. In 1938 several companies started to accept each other's cards.
The concept of using a card for purchases was invented in 1887 by Edward Bellamy and described in his utopian novel Looking Backward. Bellamy uses the explicit term "Credit Card" eleven times in his novel (Chapters 9, 10, 11, 13, 25 and 26) and 3 times (Chapters 4, 8 and 19) in its sequel, Equality. The concept of paying merchants using a card was invented in 1950 by Ralph Schneider and Frank X. McNamara in order to consolidate multiple cards. The Diners Club, which was created partially through a merger with Dine and Sign, produced the first "general purpose" charge card, which is similar but required the entire bill to be paid with each statement; it was followed shortly thereafter by American Express and Carte Blanche. Western Union had begun issuing charge cards to its frequent customers in 1914. Bank of America created the BankAmericard in 1958, a product which eventually evolved into the Visa system ("Chargex" also became Visa). MasterCard came to being in 1966 when a group of credit-issuing banks established MasterCharge. The fractured nature of the US banking system meant that credit cards became an effective way for those who were travelling around the country to, in effect, move their credit to places where they could not directly use their banking facilities. In 1966 Barclaycard in the UK launched the first credit card outside of the US. There are now countless variations on the basic concept of revolving credit for individuals (as issued by banks and honored by a network of financial institutions), including organization-branded credit cards, corporate-user credit cards, store cards and so on. |
LONGA
I think,if not rememberd some game developer will adapt good things about GW.
Remember Pac-man? there is a challange misson based on that game.Good old games still be remembered.
Remember Pac-man? there is a challange misson based on that game.Good old games still be remembered.
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I would remember playing it, but I would just think of it as something I poured time and effort into like any other game I played.
Former Ruling
Guild Wars, honestly IMO, doesn't do anything so out of the ordinary to warrent it getting any fame like that so far down the road.
I'll remember having played it though. But to that decree I remember playing Pokemon as a 12 yr old too...
I'll remember having played it though. But to that decree I remember playing Pokemon as a 12 yr old too...
Kook~NBK~
How will I feel about GW 20 years from now? 20 years from now, I just hope I can remember what happened yesterday, let alone what happened 20 years ago!
Will GW go down as a classic? Dunno. Some games are so innovative and/or fun that they're bound to be remembered - like that one with the thing that moved back and forth, and you'd shoot the other things that were coming down the screen (or was it across the screen). Or that other one with the big monkey. I think it was a monkey....
Will GW go down as a classic? Dunno. Some games are so innovative and/or fun that they're bound to be remembered - like that one with the thing that moved back and forth, and you'd shoot the other things that were coming down the screen (or was it across the screen). Or that other one with the big monkey. I think it was a monkey....
Taala
Well, being 25 years old and still remembering what I was playing when I was five years old, I think I'd remember Guild Wars as something I used to have fun with.
Terra Xin
Something good? No. There's always going to be a better game.
My only exception is the Final Fantasy series, I'll always go back to those games.
My only exception is the Final Fantasy series, I'll always go back to those games.
BoredJoe
I'll remember GW 20 years on but more as something I played too much of rather than as a classic. It doesn't have that punch for me that Bard's Tale, Nethack and Wizardry 7 had.
My Green Storage
In 20 years I suppose you might have more important things to worry about then remembering (or possibly remembering) a game.
Family?
Job?
Tradegy?
Happiness?
It's different when you're 16 .. 19 ... 24 ... so of course you remember things when you were 6 .. you have nothing TRULY important going on at age 16-25.
Mine would be this Sesame Street game (Atari 2600 *I think*), same with a few other Atari games. Also of course NES: Excitebike? Kid Icarus? NES Tennis? Baseball? Judge Dredd game?
It's easier to reflect and remember games of NES, Sega (Both original and Genesis), just like any 10 year olds now will look back at 25 and remember PS3, XBOX 360, and the Wii.
Now imagine you're 40 - 50 years old, are you *really* going to remember GW?
I sure as hell wouldn't want to, how sad would that be. Sitting at Sunday brunch reflecting to my friends "You know 20 years ago I use to play Guild Wars" .. "ahh those were the days"
I repeat, I sure as hell hope my life is not that sad and pathetic that i can reflect back to 20 years ago and remember GW.
Family?
Job?
Tradegy?
Happiness?
It's different when you're 16 .. 19 ... 24 ... so of course you remember things when you were 6 .. you have nothing TRULY important going on at age 16-25.
Mine would be this Sesame Street game (Atari 2600 *I think*), same with a few other Atari games. Also of course NES: Excitebike? Kid Icarus? NES Tennis? Baseball? Judge Dredd game?
It's easier to reflect and remember games of NES, Sega (Both original and Genesis), just like any 10 year olds now will look back at 25 and remember PS3, XBOX 360, and the Wii.
Now imagine you're 40 - 50 years old, are you *really* going to remember GW?
I sure as hell wouldn't want to, how sad would that be. Sitting at Sunday brunch reflecting to my friends "You know 20 years ago I use to play Guild Wars" .. "ahh those were the days"
I repeat, I sure as hell hope my life is not that sad and pathetic that i can reflect back to 20 years ago and remember GW.
Arcador
It is kind of strange but I tend to remember a lot of things I should not...anyway for sure GW has marked my long term memory for good
cloudbunny
I'm pretty sure I will (if I'm not too old by then :-).
As for remembering, I do not play more games than I clearly remember all I spent more than a few hours with.
My first computer game, 24 years ago, was Adventure, a text based dungeon game played on a mainframe. Followed by Pacman, Tetris and Wizardry 6 & 7, Well that was my games 83 - 94. Still remember them all very well, with a kind of warm sentimental feeling.
Do not underestimate your long term memory :-).
Edit: I don't think many non-players will remember GW in 20 years. How many (who did not play it) remember Wizardry today? Milestones with great general impact are of course remembered very long, also by people who never played them much. Pong, Pacman, Minesweeper, Tetris, Flightsimulator, Doom and probably WoW are a few such games.
regards,
Cloudbunny
As for remembering, I do not play more games than I clearly remember all I spent more than a few hours with.
My first computer game, 24 years ago, was Adventure, a text based dungeon game played on a mainframe. Followed by Pacman, Tetris and Wizardry 6 & 7, Well that was my games 83 - 94. Still remember them all very well, with a kind of warm sentimental feeling.
Do not underestimate your long term memory :-).
Edit: I don't think many non-players will remember GW in 20 years. How many (who did not play it) remember Wizardry today? Milestones with great general impact are of course remembered very long, also by people who never played them much. Pong, Pacman, Minesweeper, Tetris, Flightsimulator, Doom and probably WoW are a few such games.
regards,
Cloudbunny
Perynne
I'll definetly remember Guild Wars. It's the first MMORPG I've really played and has definetly gotten me addicted to online games.
I don't think it's a bad thing to remember a game decades later. It won't ruin your entire life to spend five minutes remembering your younger days, especially if it's one of those spur-of-the-moment things rather than spending hours making lists of all the games you've ever played. Nostalgia is wonderful as long as you don't get completely stuck in the past.
I remember most of the other games I played as a kid, like Tetris, King's Quests, Zoombinis and Mortal Kombat. Oh, and of course all the Super Mario games for Nintendo.
I don't think it's a bad thing to remember a game decades later. It won't ruin your entire life to spend five minutes remembering your younger days, especially if it's one of those spur-of-the-moment things rather than spending hours making lists of all the games you've ever played. Nostalgia is wonderful as long as you don't get completely stuck in the past.
I remember most of the other games I played as a kid, like Tetris, King's Quests, Zoombinis and Mortal Kombat. Oh, and of course all the Super Mario games for Nintendo.
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BoredJoe
I couldn't resist posting this snippet from wikipedia on NetHack. It's stuff like this that makes you fond of the classics. GW still has a way to go ^^.
"The player's character is initially accompanied by a pet animal, typically a kitten or little dog, although Knights begin with a pony. The player can name his or her pet, and can tame more pets along the way - domestic animals can be tamed by feeding them, and other monsters can sometimes be tamed by magic. Pets are very useful, not only for assisting the player in combat, but also for detecting cursed items and stealing from shops."
"The player's character is initially accompanied by a pet animal, typically a kitten or little dog, although Knights begin with a pony. The player can name his or her pet, and can tame more pets along the way - domestic animals can be tamed by feeding them, and other monsters can sometimes be tamed by magic. Pets are very useful, not only for assisting the player in combat, but also for detecting cursed items and stealing from shops."
Kryth
I remember asking a similar question about Warcraft 2 when I was 12. "Hey cousin, do u think we'll remember spending so much time for this game when we are 18?!" Well I remember War2 crystal clear but that's just 10 years (I'm 22 now). 20... I really don't know. I don't think I'll forget tho, since it's a game I will have played for 3 years at least so it's bound to leave some traces in my memory =P
lightblade
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We'll be playing games with 1 TB RAM, DirectX 15, and a 512 GB Graphic card, and a 1 Thz processor. Would we want to think back? People remember games like EQ and WoW because they were flagships for the MMORPG franchise. Guild Wars isn't. |
2. GW will make history by outlast WoW.
Pwny Ride
I dont know how anyone could possible think 20 years ahead, and even still, Guild Wars would be the thing that i wouldnt even consider thinking about.
There will be more important think about, bill,taxes,morgage, your ex-wife breathing down your back for child support (not thaat i plan that or anything
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but say if i did? hmm *ponder*
I suppose if just think of it as something to do
There will be more important think about, bill,taxes,morgage, your ex-wife breathing down your back for child support (not thaat i plan that or anything
)but say if i did? hmm *ponder*
I suppose if just think of it as something to do
Mace Gridlock
Well I know I will remember it. I am 35 and still remember playing pong
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How can you forget a game that you have probably put 1,2,3000+ hours into.
I know I won't forget.
PS. I do have a life outside of gamming.
,How can you forget a game that you have probably put 1,2,3000+ hours into.
I know I won't forget.
PS. I do have a life outside of gamming.
Cassandra Tanacel
A game where several good friends and I created a group and played for hours on end? I think ill remember it fondly.
In the same way i remember playing StreetFighter 2 and Mario Kart on the Snes with friends, same as i remember Target: Renegade and playing it with my nextdoor neighbour.
Good games are like good films, even 10 years on, you still like to go back and play/watch them. Hence why Nintendo's virtual console on the Wii is making money!
In the same way i remember playing StreetFighter 2 and Mario Kart on the Snes with friends, same as i remember Target: Renegade and playing it with my nextdoor neighbour.
Good games are like good films, even 10 years on, you still like to go back and play/watch them. Hence why Nintendo's virtual console on the Wii is making money!
BlueSS
games I played 20 years ago:
World Cup Carnival - Mexico 86 (it was my first game)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Cup_Carnival
Basket Master (Basket Master was released in 1987, I got it after mexico 86 game)
http://www.cpczone.net/index.php?game=1341 screenshots of basket master
Arkanoid2: (released in 1987, also one of my favourite games)
http://www.cpczone.net/index.php?game=63
Bionic Commando (released in 1987, didnt play this much)
http://www.cpczone.net/index.php?game=121
Bruce Lee (game was released in 1984, but I got it in 87 or something)
http://www.cpczone.net/index.php?game=161
Garfield: Big, Fat, Hairy Deal (released in 1988, it was pretty good game)
http://www.cpczone.net/index.php?game=1051
Gauntlet 2 (released 1986, I played this a lot, one of the best games ever made)
http://www.cpczone.net/index.php?game=387
Knightlore (released 1984. not an easy game, lot of puzzles)
http://www.cpczone.net/index.php?game=522
Outrun (released in 1987)
R-Type (released in 1987)
Street Fighter (released in 1988)
Top Gun (released in 1986)
Victory Road (released in 1988)
Mask 2 (released 1988)
I'm pretty sure that I wont forget GW
World Cup Carnival - Mexico 86 (it was my first game)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Cup_Carnival
Basket Master (Basket Master was released in 1987, I got it after mexico 86 game)
http://www.cpczone.net/index.php?game=1341 screenshots of basket master
Arkanoid2: (released in 1987, also one of my favourite games)
http://www.cpczone.net/index.php?game=63
Bionic Commando (released in 1987, didnt play this much)
http://www.cpczone.net/index.php?game=121
Bruce Lee (game was released in 1984, but I got it in 87 or something)
http://www.cpczone.net/index.php?game=161
Garfield: Big, Fat, Hairy Deal (released in 1988, it was pretty good game)
http://www.cpczone.net/index.php?game=1051
Gauntlet 2 (released 1986, I played this a lot, one of the best games ever made)
http://www.cpczone.net/index.php?game=387
Knightlore (released 1984. not an easy game, lot of puzzles)
http://www.cpczone.net/index.php?game=522
Outrun (released in 1987)
R-Type (released in 1987)
Street Fighter (released in 1988)
Top Gun (released in 1986)
Victory Road (released in 1988)
Mask 2 (released 1988)
I'm pretty sure that I wont forget GW
Kay84
I think I will remember GW in 20 years. (now and then)
Undressed
I'll definitely have other things in mind than videogames or finding myself remembering GW. What's this about? Lack of priorities in life?
cloudbunny
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If that's what you expect of adult life, you will (hopefully) be up for a nice surprise!
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Regards,
Cloudbunny
Hengis
As with many of the older generation of game players, I started out on computer games on a Sinclair Spectrum 48K back in about 1983, and yes I still fondly remember some of the games I played on that machine such as Manic Miner, Jet Set Willy, and the game that first got me into RPGs a text adventure called "The Price of Magik". (I had graph paper maps all over the floor for weeks)
Moving on to a PC Platform, again I fondly remember playing Wing Commander on my 80286 with 512K of ram. It took eight hours to install the game!
Slightly later games in the Lucas Arts adventure series such as Monkey Island, Grim Fandango, and of course games such as the original Tomb Raider will live in my memory forever.
Coming up to date with Guild Wars, yes of course I will remember it in 20 years, and I will remember it very fondly indeed.
What some of the younger players don't realise is just how fast the next 20 years is going to go! Suddenly you will be looking back thinking "Where the hell did that time go?"
Moving on to a PC Platform, again I fondly remember playing Wing Commander on my 80286 with 512K of ram. It took eight hours to install the game!
Slightly later games in the Lucas Arts adventure series such as Monkey Island, Grim Fandango, and of course games such as the original Tomb Raider will live in my memory forever.
Coming up to date with Guild Wars, yes of course I will remember it in 20 years, and I will remember it very fondly indeed.
What some of the younger players don't realise is just how fast the next 20 years is going to go! Suddenly you will be looking back thinking "Where the hell did that time go?"
Mournblade
Heck yeah i'll remember GuildWars in 20 years... sure the details will be fuzzy, but i'll have fond memories and (possibly) screen shots to look at, kind of like an old photo album where you see yourself playing in the yard with kids you don't remember anymore but you recall that you had a great time.
I actually still OWN several games that are around 20 years old... Wizards Crown, Eternal Dagger, and Ultima to name a few.
I actually still OWN several games that are around 20 years old... Wizards Crown, Eternal Dagger, and Ultima to name a few.
trobinson97
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20 years from now, I will look back and remember GW as a good thing. Maybe not as the best thing to have wasted my precious shoort life span on, but still good in a "I had fun" way.
Ashelia B'Nargin Dalmasca
I think guild wars has spread its player base to thin with the three expansions. If someone new buys the prophecies expansion there is like no one to play with most of the time. I wanted my friends to get the game so we could play together so i made a new character but there wasn't really any parties in missions. I kindof like to play with people rather than henchmen so i guess maybe thats why i don't think guild wars is going to last very long. Mostly people just get run ahead in the game if they have the money, or farm rare items to make money.
gabazieute
I will as I met my wife in GW and moved from France to Australia.
Hope I'll be able to show kiddies where mom and dads met for 1st time... and probably got same reaction as michael J fox in Backt to the Future 2
Hope I'll be able to show kiddies where mom and dads met for 1st time... and probably got same reaction as michael J fox in Backt to the Future 2
Blackest Rose
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Lol!
If that's what you expect of adult life, you will (hopefully) be up for a nice surprise! Priorities in life have nothing to do with what you remember. Can't say the text of The Osmonds "Puppy Love" is my top priority in life nowadays, but I still remember it. Regards, Cloudbunny |
I'm 33 and exactly 20 years ago I was playing the space trading/fighting game Elite on a commodore 64.
I still remember many happy hours planet hopping and scooping fuel from nearby suns....
In a nutshell yes - I'll remember GW for a long long time since it's pretty much the main game I've been playing for a year and a half.
Hopefully I'll be posting on the GW 7 forum in 20 years time fondly remembering the original guild wars.
Gaming is my pasttime - you decide if you'll grow out of it or not.
Me I know I'll never.
nekopowa
Definately, GW is a smart game unlike korean grindfest mmos which are a waste of time.
Zinger314
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Atleast in competitive World of Warcraft arenas, you have a lot of variety and options...