Gaile Speaks on chapter 2!

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Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by handsome henry
If one of the new classes is an assasin and the other a druid I will laugh my ass off. Anybody else thinking Diablo 2?
I could be wrong. Logically, however, it makes NO SENSE that there be a druid class in Tyria. Druids (at least the ones in Maguuma jungle) have now become "one with the world" and actually looks like big semi-transparent tree-walkers.

There are several missions / quests in the Maguuma jungle area that actually dealt with this, specifically the "capture the flag" style mission that teleport you to the Henge as well as another bonus mission where I think you wake up the elder druid.

So -- given that the PCs will remain human, I don't see the new class will be a druid.

Konrow

Konrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

NY, New York

Warlords of Earth [WAR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrent Frath
i thought he was morally oposed to it because it used animal's deaths to achieve a win?
yea i'm pretty sure thats what it was meant to mean but people take translate things i different ways so watever.

also all u guys and gals whining about IWAY, just find a way to counter it. its not unstoppable, in fact i've been on a team thats beaten IWAY a few times. it just depends on how hard you try.

Guardian of the Light

Guardian of the Light

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Radicals Against Tyrants

W/

Hmmm I wonder if Anet took any of our ideas from this thread http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...light=Assassin

He did say they were looking at the thread but I wonder if they took any of our ideas. If they take just one of my ideas I will be super happy.

However there is still time to put in ideas for the Assassin so if anyone has any ideas post them there. ^_^

Everyname Is Taken

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Just Friends

Actually, Anet nerfed iway to make it better, if you look at the updates-forgot which month it was. They did this cause people were complaining that they couldnt get into groups because they didnt have ts or vent, or weren't r3 (kinda backfired cause now people are only asking for r3+ iway, thats crazy). iway wasn't meant to hold halls or win, was just meant for fame farming to help boost up rank and give the players who don't have ts or vne t a group.

Clusmas

Clusmas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Brisbane, Australia

n/a

IWAY *was* overpowered. Then they capped attack speed at +33% and now it's just free fame. Stop whining please just kill the noobs.

Kthxbai

Krugz

Krugz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

[FoF] Fear Our Faction

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enadiketus
w00t! Finally auction houses =D
I hope they make them well, some times auction houses can be really bad for the economy, suddenly everything in the game is worth 1gp from trillions of tan hides to 1 ecto. It always starts with that one gamer who's got too much of something and starts selling for cheap and then everyone else's prices drop and BAM. 1gp = my mastercard.

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

IWAY is too weak. It should be strengthened.

Believej00

Believej00

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Counter Force

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by tomcruisejr
another nerf?
A nerf we all would be happy with.

Yay, auction houses....Now it will be easier to buy and sell.

Seriously, IWAY is pathetic. I've seen IWAY groups completely massacred in the HoH.

Juicey Shake

Juicey Shake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

CA

in it for the trimmmm

R/

I say IWAY should be left as it is, any good group can beat it, and it has no holding power, so the way I see it is it's just a filter for keeping lowly groups out of HoH.

Ellix Cantero

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Believej00
A nerf we all would be happy with.

Yay, auction houses....Now it will be easier to buy and sell.

Seriously, IWAY is pathetic. I've seen IWAY groups completely massacred in the HoH.
So, you don't think not-very-good IWAY groups being able to make it to the HoH is a problem to begin with? I actually agree with most of the people here, that IWAY isn't a problem on the scale of say, the old spirit spam builds, but it is very annoying. Both in the fact that that's what 80% of American pugs are right now and the fact that even with a very good balanced group, you can get beat by a bunch of IWAY nobodies if someone does the wrong thing at the wrong time, or sometimes just plain bad luck.

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

I should have said "I believe" in those. The fact that we will have new races in Guild Wars is a given. I believe that we will continue to play as members of the human race in the next chapter. But hey, I could be wrong. The design team is just two offices away, but they cook up changes and new ideas all the time, and to be honest, I haven't asked about the races choice in a long while. So, grain of salt, anyone?

As to elves, or pixies, or druids, or any other race of character type -- we're always open to suggestions and almost never say never.

reboot

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

its a bigger problem then the old air spike or spirit spam FOTM builds because it discourages the average tombs player from playing a build that requires skill and at the same time alienates skilled players and teams who either are bored of playing aginst iway every match or cannot find a decent ballanced group.

Guardian of the Light

Guardian of the Light

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Radicals Against Tyrants

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
I should have said "I believe" in those. The fact that we will have new races in Guild Wars is a given. I believe that we will continue to play as members of the human race in the next chapter. But hey, I could be wrong. The design team is just two offices away, but they cook up changes and new ideas all the time, and to be honest, I haven't asked about the races choice in a long while. So, grain of salt, anyone?

As to elves, or pixies, or druids, or any other race of character type -- we're always open to suggestions and almost never say never.
Galie can you answer my question "did you take any ideas for skill and stuff from my 'Ideas for the Assassin' theard"?

*Galie disappears in poof of smoke*

Hyunsai

Hyunsai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

A/Me

I hope, if new races, that there will be NO difference in stats between them. The only difference should be the skin...

Ellix Cantero

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by reboot
its a bigger problem then the old air spike or spirit spam FOTM builds because it discourages the average tombs player from playing a build that requires skill and at the same time alienates skilled players and teams who either are bored of playing aginst iway every match or cannot find a decent ballanced group.
I disagree, spirit spam was the worst possible thing for the tombs. It got to the point where you couldn't possibly hope to go far unless you were also running spirit spam, and spirit spam teams were not fun in the least.

MysticoN

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Lord of the guilds

N/R

Hey Gaile .. I have a great idead for the upcoming chapter ...

What about having the leader in gvg have a horse with a flag in his hand , and when people of the guild stay next to him in guild battles .. the moral is boosted by 5%. And of course it the guilds choice of they will have a leader on horse or not .. since he cant attack and just give enchantments.

Pagan Greyfeather

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Dark Wing Cadre

R/

Gaile, my dear. My most favoritest person in the whole world. I have a request. Its just a small one. A trifle really. Ummmm, you know the cute little bunny in pre-sear? Can't we have him as a pet? Please!!! *assumes begging position* I''ll name him after whoever writes the code for it. Honest! lol.

-Pagan

R. Mindwalker

R. Mindwalker

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/Me

Let them do something usefull first like fixing the bug of Final Blow.
Or the one at the Thunderhead keep when the King gets SA from OUTSIDE the fort. Or Reduce IWAY healthregen. So Balance can become normal again.
Than they can fuss around doing CTRL C from Diablo and World Of Warcraft.

No offence at all. Im just majorly argo by the fact that these bugs still screw the game. Reporting has no use... Auto reply FTW.................

xBakox

xBakox

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

[JF] Just Friends, [NOT] Nomads of Turmoil

Soothing Images>IWAY. Ward Against Melee>IWAY. anything that blinds>IWAY. Knockdowns>IWAY. Spiteful>IWAy. Empathy>IWAY

I have to be honest, I have done a few IWAY (and I have won HoH with it too so dont say its impossible ). I do try balanced, but only when guildies or friends do them with me because PUGs are too stupid(most of the time).
Well the other day we played a team who used wards and soothing images. We dealt almost no damage, and on top of that they used Spiteful and Empathy. Pretty easy to counter I have to say. We were owned in 5 minutes .

And IMO, races should have different stats. Not many, but small differences. For example, humans are all around normal. But maybe Dwarves could add 5% more damage to their physical damage attacks and maybe even have 5 more armor. Of course, to balance they move 5-10% slower. Just an idea.

Loch

Loch

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Sure IWAY is beatable. But it's also really easy to run it and be moderately successful. If it gets nerfed, it won't be because it's unbeatable; it'll happen to encourage builds that require more skill to play.

Maddie

Maddie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Netherlands

[천상캐슬]

Mo/

I think he will just nerf it to 125% or 120% and +5 regeneration as it is +6 now most of the times

Canas

Canas

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Alliance or Death (AoD)

W/Mo

I say we should be able to play as charr

Like good charr I guess. Ones that are allies with the human race

I would SO love to play as charr

Guardian of the Light

Guardian of the Light

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Radicals Against Tyrants

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by xBakox
Soothing Images>IWAY. Ward Against Melee>IWAY. anything that blinds>IWAY. Knockdowns>IWAY. Spiteful>IWAy. Empathy>IWAY

I have to be honest, I have done a few IWAY (and I have won HoH with it too so dont say its impossible ). I do try balanced, but only when guildies or friends do them with me because PUGs are too stupid(most of the time).
Well the other day we played a team who used wards and soothing images. We dealt almost no damage, and on top of that they used Spiteful and Empathy. Pretty easy to counter I have to say. We were owned in 5 minutes .

And IMO, races should have different stats. Not many, but small differences. For example, humans are all around normal. But maybe Dwarves could add 5% more damage to their physical damage attacks and maybe even have 5 more armor. Of course, to balance they move 5-10% slower. Just an idea.
Perhaps defeating IWAY is as easy as using that Warrior's Bane Pre-build just add Shadow of Fear and IWAY is DOOMED.

Shouldn't all these ideas go to the suggestion thread?

Scutilla

Scutilla

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Tyrian Explorers League

R/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by MysticoN
Hey Gaile .. I have a great idead for the upcoming chapter ...

What about having the leader in gvg have a horse with a flag in his hand , and when people of the guild stay next to him in guild battles .. the moral is boosted by 5%. And of course it the guilds choice of they will have a leader on horse or not .. since he cant attack and just give enchantments.
Someone brought that up during one of Gaile's visits, she said she thought it might be a bad idea because it would mean the leader would be easily visable to the enemy, and thus get targetted more.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyunsai
I hope, if new races, that there will be NO difference in stats between them. The only difference should be the skin...
I think by "new races" she means NPC/enemy races. She's said before that there will probably never be new playable races (hence her comment about "staying human").

weis

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Best Before [apr]

I think that iway should be nerfed just because it's so damn boring to play against it. Many players have even quitted the game because of iway ffs. And these aren't the players that lose to iway..These are the players who are bored to it.

I'm thinking of quitting tombs because of iway too...Too bad that some guilds (MATH...) even spoil the fun in gvg with iway.. gg.

Pagan Greyfeather

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Dark Wing Cadre

R/

Yes, IWAY is easy to beat. Its just the constant stream of idiot pug IWAY teams that is annoying. I have never been a big fan of nerfing (except in extreme cases like spirit spam, and I play a Ranger most of the time!) so I will not throw in on encouraging a nerf. But it would be nice to play against more balanced teams in Halls. Now lets get back to important stuff. About that bunny......

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scutilla
I think by "new races" she means NPC/enemy races. She's said before that there will probably never be new playable races (hence her comment about "staying human").
not correct

Quote:
I believe that we will continue to play as members of the human race in the next chapter. But hey, I could be wrong.
from GW site itself

Quote:
What playable races are there in Guild Wars?

In the first chapter you play characters from the human race. In subsequent chapters of Guild Wars, you may be able to play members of other races.

R. Mindwalker

R. Mindwalker

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maddie
I think he will just nerf it to 125% or 120% and +5 regeneration as it is +6 now most of the times
That will be nice. Also they need to fix the HUGE range of IWAY. Its now mapbig. Just do it for radar range only. Than you have to think when you activate it.

Senketsou

Senketsou

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

T-L-A

Just a rumor that I heard however they are considering dropping the maximum number of the same profession to three per team, Soo ranger spike will have to be done with three rangers... not hard, however dropping hero's and warriors will be a very timed spike... IWAY, will probably be ran three warriors, three rangers, two necro's... Several things can change, and IWAY is a very simple build that can be modified to be much more powerful, however the majority of iway players just want a quick fame...

What people dont understand is in, nerffing IWAY builds is nerffing the pve status of the game, which isnt fair to those who dont find pvp interesting. How often do you see in pve, "Hey, lets run IWAY". Never have I seen that on a serious note... Understand before you put your thoughts into builds, that there is more than just pvp.

I do not however agree with IWAY, I feel its a bug in the system that needs fixed. Such as teams must have a more complex build, such as each team must require x amount of professions... Whereas rainbow spikes would be more popular. Requiring more skill of course, making the hall of hero's a much more skill based aspect in the game.

Whatever path they take in "nerffing" IWAY, I feel it wont be one that makes the players in the game happy, because those getting beat by IWAY now, will probably still be getting beat by IWAY then, which shows their issues in; lack of skill, ignorance, and self control.

MoldyRiceFrenzy

MoldyRiceFrenzy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Santa Rosa, CA

Confusion in The Ranks[tArD]

Mo/W

what about the umbrella guild is that gona happen?

Neriandal Freit

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

E/

Umbrella guild?

Rajamic

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

IA

Chronicles of Heroes [CoH]

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
I should have said "I believe" in those. The fact that we will have new races in Guild Wars is a given. I believe that we will continue to play as members of the human race in the next chapter. But hey, I could be wrong. The design team is just two offices away, but they cook up changes and new ideas all the time, and to be honest, I haven't asked about the races choice in a long while. So, grain of salt, anyone?

As to elves, or pixies, or druids, or any other race of character type -- we're always open to suggestions and almost never say never.
Honestly, I'm against adding races unless it is completely superficial. Any kind of racial advantages/disadvantages would create huge numbers of balancing issues.

chippxero

chippxero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

norfolk

Super Anti Rabbit Squad [SARS]

Mo/Me

I just don't want filthy elves in guildwars ever, so far they have been pretty damn original with the charr and mursatt(sp?) it would be a big mistake IMO to just follow the normal trends.

tomcruisejr

tomcruisejr

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellix Cantero
...Both in the fact that that's what 80% of American pugs are right now and the fact that even with a very good balanced group, you can get beat by a bunch of IWAY nobodies if someone does the wrong thing at the wrong time, or sometimes just plain bad luck.
yea, dont blame the iway nobodies. blame the person who did the wrong thing at the wrong time.

Hyunsai

Hyunsai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

A/Me

A max of one monk per team in 4V4 random PVP could be nice too...

chippxero

chippxero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

norfolk

Super Anti Rabbit Squad [SARS]

Mo/Me

That would ruin smiters

Brother Andicus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Scotland

The Illuminati

Make IWAY no longer trigger off pets, lengthen the recharge on orders(will help with R/spike too), and IWAY is no longer a problem. Throw in an increased recharge on Sig of Weariness, E/Surge and Migrane, and do something(no idea what) with EoE and Dual Shot, and all the biggest problems at the moment are fixed.

chippxero

chippxero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

norfolk

Super Anti Rabbit Squad [SARS]

Mo/Me

Why not just remove all skills, weapons, attributes, runes and armour and give everyone a stick that does 1-1.

Most of these skills and spells arn't really broken or have problems it's just people that don't prepare or play tactically against them lose and want them changed.

if a team gets beaten 10 times by IWAY the problem isn't with the IWAY team.

Believej00

Believej00

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Counter Force

W/E

Iway isn't hard, it's just boring. I only use it in PvE, because it's useless in pvp. I'd rather fill my skills up with *useful* skills that can be used most of the fight instead of oens that cna be used every once in a while.

Like Andicus said, they should make it no longer work with pets.

Ellix Cantero

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Believej00
Like Andicus said, they should make it no longer work with pets.
Bah! Make it work only off your own pet but not that of teammates.