What do you miss?

yarddog

yarddog

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Philadelphia-Go Eagles

Raptor Five [Five]

W/

i miss veretas sacrafice and having more than 10 minions

the token noob

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

D/

Just fix my prot bond and get those nightmares out of uw and I will do the happy dance again.

Deleet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Denmark

Rule Thirty Four [prOn]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by [Apple]
HATE. 6 DPS (as in, not gladiators defence) Warriors WITH frenzy + monks > PvE. Moreso than ANY other combination of classes. I defy you to prove otherwise.
I'd like you to tank in DoA with frenzy

Apple

Apple

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

N/Mo

TANKING
Why PvE fails.

Deleet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Denmark

Rule Thirty Four [prOn]

Mo/

Don't make it another PvE-bash thread. There is no reason to bash it for the large numbers of customers that like it. Is there?

Actually, if tanking was removed, a lot of defensive skills would be useless, yes?

I could be wrong.

reetkever

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/E

I miss the good old times where:

-Strongboxes
-Griffons
-Firestorm and lots of more skills were useful
-I actually had to work for max damage weapon, and was proud of that weapon
-Where I carelessly use Cyclone Axe without creating a chaos with monsters going everywhere
-Un-inscripted weapons
-Lots of other skilsl that still had uses back then
-my characters could have any build, and not just nuker, MM, tank or whatever...

Xenrath

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

Mostly I miss what it used to be like when there was only campaign 1, in so far as FAR more people used to team up with each other. Not just for missions but for (optional) quests too. It never for a moment felt like a single player game then.

Also wanting universal damage reduction back

dgb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by rlimit
What do you miss?
PVP that doesn't suck.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

-Serious gvg tournament seasons instead of all those 'fun' seasons or long months of just nothing.
-the old PvP Tombs, the pre-iway and pre-spirit spam atmosphere there, those 9+ international districts, and the beautiful Tombs outpost, not that crappy fugly dark HA cave we got now.
-having *uninscribable* gold items that were actually valuable and rewarding when found
-having green items that felt really unique because the only way to get them was through *teamplay* in Sorrows Furnace (or even the pve tombs later), not those extremelly common, solo farmed greens that drop from just any boss around the corner in any explorable, sometimes even at triple rate...
ADD:
-when playing with other people was encouraged and rewarded, when the game wasn't Online Singleplayer RPG it is now becaue of heroes.

McMullen

McMullen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/W

I miss this layout:

MegaMouse

MegaMouse

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

south mississippi

Warriors Of Melos WOM

E/N

I miss:
1 Unlimited Minions
2 Killing monsters without having to chase them all over creation
3 Actualy having a feeling of accomplishment when I finished a mission/quest
4 Global runes
5 Un-inscribable weapons (apperently like so many others)
6 NOT HAVING TO FARM FOR POINTS TO GO FURTHER IN THE GAME (sry bout the caps had to get it off my chest)
7 Getting greens from Sorrows Furnace that were truly unique, now greens are too common
8 Actualy working to get to level 20



Mega Mouse

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Personally, I miss (1) not being able to get max armor until you are more than halfway through the game (i.e. the Desert) and (2) not being able to purchase all skills until the very end of the game (i.e. Ember Light Camp).

Those two items - actually "making do" with what you have and giving you something tangible to look forward to throughout the game - really made a difference for me.

Rion

Rion

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Blashyrkh

I miss 2 points of energy for every 1 point you had in Soul Reaping.

Man that was broken, but I loved it.

Pete1975

Pete1975

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester

Mo/Me

I miss Prot Bond in it's unerfed glorious state and mobs that don't run off. Oh yeah and selling white chaos axes for silly money

Griff Mon

Griff Mon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

In the Elfen Forests of Washington State

Damage Radius

N/

Going to Thunderhead Keep and listening to all the people begging for monks to join their party. And listening to people complain that they have attempted the mission 20 times and always failed.

I don't miss snooty monks whining about how the PUG was playing and leaving the group, the "monk strike" (although it was funny) and monks actually charging people to join their group.

Mars Dragonblade

Mars Dragonblade

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Awesometon.

Ministry of Fate [MoF]

W/

I liked the feelin of when you had 1 or 2k that you were minted. I also remember talkin about the game's other features with my mates shortly after Prophecies was released, like "I was talking to a level 20 guy today, how cool is that?" and "It's supposed to take ages to get to that level", then when your first character became level 20 you felt like you were amazin at the game lol. Good times...

Phaern Majes

Phaern Majes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Anywhere but up

The Panserbjorne [ROAR]

R/Mo

I miss not feeling nostalgic....

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

i know its not that long ago, but I miss 12v12 Alliance Battles

Coffee Despot

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

It's nice to see that I'm not the only one who was, and still is, thoroughly in love with Pre-Searing.

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coffee Despot
It's nice to see that I'm not the only one who was, and still is, thoroughly in love with Pre-Searing.
i have a warrior in presea that got a mini pet recently... is that enough love for presear?

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lonesamurai
i have a warrior in presea that got a mini pet recently... is that enough love for presear?
That is AWESOME!!!!

ElinoraNeSangre

ElinoraNeSangre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Near Seattle, WA

Talionis De Cineris [EXUR]

N/Me

While Prophecies is my least fav of the three, there was a certain magic about those first days in Pre-Sear that can't be matched. It might be that I was new to the game - everything is new, there's professions to try out (and all the face options, I couldn't stop mixing and matching trying to get THE perfect look), different secondaries, and beautiful scenery. It was awesome. Elinora was my first character, and I remember very clearly some of the places I ran around to, my excitement every time I found a new area, taking tons of screenshots of Eli without knowing how to take them without the interface (whoops). I didn't worry about getting money, I didn't worry about getting cooler looking armor or ubercool items, ect. Although I did have to remake Eli once because I made her N/W and many people started warning me the combo would suck. I went with N/Me instead and play it to this day. I explorered every nook and cranny I could find, delighting in each new cool area. Nothing really has been the same as just dropping into this cool new place with beautiful visuals, and just showing everyone I know: "Look! See my necro?!?" It was all so lighthearted and mellow, and everyone seemed really nice.

I've tried to go back and do Pre-Sear again, but then I get to thinking what I'd have in store for me after Pre-Sear, and I cringe. Perhaps the real solution would be to make a Pre-Sear char that just stays there forever.

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
That is AWESOME!!!!
Combine that with the Game of the Year edition special weapons (max damage and mods and nice skins), guess how much presear love I get

Shmanka

Shmanka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

In Your Head

The Brave Will Fall [Nion]

Me/

I don't miss pre searing, I have a char slot dedicated that as well :P

What I do miss though is how populated Tyria was in general, now it is only droknars forge or Lions Arch that get any people within them. I remember at 2am you could have found multiple groups forming Sanctum Cay missions, now its simply 1-2 afk people. I guess bigger guilds will profit from PvE now.

Sofonisba

Sofonisba

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tucson, AZ

The Black Hand Gang [BHG] and The Black Helm Gang [BHeG]

There was also a time… I think…so long ago… when you didn’t even buy keys. The chest opened like that one in FoW, randomly dropping things for random people. Did I dream that up? I was not keen on the keys idea at first, but when someone—a random person in a PUG *our first time exploring Perdition Rock—told us about the chest “testing,” we were like “Wow!”

Kind of miss the excitement of getting (read: fighting and missioning, not running) to a city for the very first time. The legendary Droknar’s Forge!! Omg what a day that was.

I miss my husband playing GW with me, before he defected to WoW… *sniffle*

So so so many improvements over the two years, thanks to ANet. There’s so much I will not miss too. (Refund points were the WORST!!)


*random people in a PUG are very rare these days... the upside and downside to a great guild

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by rlimit
Yeah, true that. I'm just ignoring the bad aspects of the past. The game did get better but I still miss some things of it.

btw. whose that in ur avatar? It looks like ayu.
It is Ayu, good eye.

The only thing out of the entire game that I actually miss is 8v8 HA. Come on, Anet, get your act together, this is such an easy decision.

xxSilhouette

xxSilhouette

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Lost in the sands of time...

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

R/Rt

Oh wow...I miss a LOT of things *gets teary eyed*

First off I miss the days were I was a newbie. Were I had no specific goal while playing, Just running around and killing stuff, taking millions of screenies in Wizards Folly. I had no idea that I should focus on just 2-3 attributes (I had at least one point in each for my primary and secondary class), But at the time, that was just ok. I miss the days I didn't follow any builds. I used whatever skills I thought were useful. I used a pretty storm artifact I found along with my truncheon on my N/E. The storm artifact was pointless. But i liked how it looked.

Secondly I miss the days were I didn't want to clean out my inventory. I wanted to keep each and every pretty thing i got, Only if i had two of something would I sell one of them. I miss feeling on top of the world when a yellow dye dropped, now i just pick it up and say 'meh, its not black'. I miss just going with the flow, doing every quest because i thought it was important that I did them all. Now i skip a lot of them to progress and get to an elite skill i need or to an armor location.

But, what I miss the absolute most, Is the days where i thought 1k was a lot! I remember being in town and complimenting another necro on her armor, we got to talking and she gave me 2k, I thought she was the nicest person in the world and that I was now rich! I also miss buying a new type of armor at every location that had it. For my necro i had bonelace from ascalon, I then got fanatics at yaks bend, Then necrotic at LA, and tormentors from Henge of denravi. Now, I don't buy any armor after starters until i can get at least a max set, Sometimes i even wait until i can get to the 15k town (if it isn't to far off.)

I miss the days were opening a chest was free, No keys needed. I loved chest hunting and picking up every single item that dropped because I thought it was a good way to make money.

I had to include this screenie as well. Thats what i mean by not caring about your build or your skills or their attribute. Just having fun with it. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...eyes/gw001.jpg

edit: oh yeah and the days before i knew how to shift+prt screen.

zara

zara

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

everywhere and no where

Mo/

I miss the days when I was working to get my first 15k set of armor, 15k studded leather for ranger (only bought one other set of ranger armor since then, fow). And buying all the steel I needed only to realize I needed Deldrimor Steel the next day. I miss selling items that I had no idea their worts, perfect r8 fellblade for 10k so I could finish my 15k armor.
-Spending ages to find a good max damage bow
-Sorrow's Furnace questing for the fun of it
-Making my second charatcer, who just had her birthday yesterday (took 5 months to make a second char, its my monk)
-Getting my first set of fissure armor 3days after making my monk, for my monk

-Moslty some of the people I played with, and my first guild I made

EDIT: Oh yeah, non-inscriptible items

Crystal Of Winter

Crystal Of Winter

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

London, UK

Mo/W

Uh, I'll probably sit here dazed for hours thinking about everything that happened in the past in GW...

but all I have to say is I miss the old days in 2005 GW....

ElinoraNeSangre

ElinoraNeSangre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Near Seattle, WA

Talionis De Cineris [EXUR]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by xxSilhouette
First off I miss the days were I was a newbie. Were I had no specific goal while playing, Just running around and killing stuff, taking millions of screenies in Wizards Folly. I had no idea that I should focus on just 2-3 attributes (I had at least one point in each for my primary and secondary class), But at the time, that was just ok. I miss the days I didn't follow any builds. I used whatever skills I thought were useful. I used a pretty storm artifact I found along with my truncheon on my N/E. The storm artifact was pointless. But i liked how it looked.

Secondly I miss the days were I didn't want to clean out my inventory. I wanted to keep each and every pretty thing i got, Only if i had two of something would I sell one of them. I miss feeling on top of the world when a yellow dye dropped, now i just pick it up and say 'meh, its not black'. I miss just going with the flow, doing every quest because i thought it was important that I did them all. Now i skip a lot of them to progress and get to an elite skill i need or to an armor location.

But, what I miss the absolute most, Is the days where i thought 1k was a lot! I remember being in town and complimenting another necro on her armor, we got to talking and she gave me 2k, I thought she was the nicest person in the world and that I was now rich! I also miss buying a new type of armor at every location that had it. For my necro i had bonelace from ascalon, I then got fanatics at yaks bend, Then necrotic at LA, and tormentors from Henge of denravi. Now, I don't buy any armor after starters until i can get at least a max set, Sometimes i even wait until i can get to the 15k town (if it isn't to far off.)

edit: oh yeah and the days before i knew how to shift+prt screen.
LOL you sound just like me! I had my points ALL over! My monk had a ranger secondary and a huge cat and ran around with a bow, and I got out of pre-Sear and a friend said "Yeah monks with bows are kind of... well weird, and you don't usually see it... uh... let me find you something better..."

Let's see, I got Bonelace in Ascalon, Tormentor's somewhere along the line (I can't remember if it was Henge or LA), and then a Necrotic/Fanatics mix at Drok's (I eventually settled on Necrotic leggings and top, Bloodstained boots, and Fanatics sleeves, eventually dyed green to match hair, and I still have the set to this day).

My husband STILL has that "doesn't care about the build" mentality, and I try to shield him from it where I can. I know eventually he's going to hit a group that's going to be like "Uh.. you just cast Firestorm so now the enemies are running from your minions" (he's E/N), but he's having a killer good time. I still really don't care about my builds a lot of the time, but I'm concious of what I set up when I'm PUGing (and for the record, I had a freakin' awesome PUG last night for Gate of Madness, who pulled through with masters despite a lot of AFK action and at one point having quite a few of us dead).

I didn't really think about how nostolgic all that was until I got to thinking about it. Don't get me wrong, I'm still having loads of fun, but life was much easier when I wasn't obsessed with what armor to buy my Mesmer because I have a lot of gold and I feel compelled to spend. :P (... and I still can't decide what armor to get her...)

xxSilhouette

xxSilhouette

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Lost in the sands of time...

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

R/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by ElinoraNeSangre
but I'm concious of what I set up when I'm PUGing
I know what you mean. Like two or three days ago I was on my ranger doing the gates of madness, and the leader of the party wanted everyone to ping there skill bar. Im so self-conscious because I don't follow a build on her whatsoever. I have rebirth, Charm animal, barrage and a few other Interrupt skills - but I made it all myself. And im waiting for the day that I do that, when im not following a build and someone calls me a 'noob' and I go crazy mad. I'm not a noob, I just like to play with builds - I read them to get ideas, But i rarely follow them straight (only when its a farming build).

Your husband sounds like my boyfriend He started playing about 5 or 6 months after me, and at that point I had knowledge. He made a R/Me and had all these illusion skills mixed in with weird ranger skills. And then shortly after I think he had an elementalist and went crazy with fire storm. I never could say anything though because I thought it was so cute, and it reminded me of the good old days

TheBaron82

TheBaron82

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

I missed the good old days were people actually play the game rather than whining on forums. Oh snap! I sound like one of them gotta go back to the game.

Kelly G

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

W/Mo

I miss running people down the droks run....it took me awhile to learn the run, and everytime I would just get it down nicely....new nerf. This last one was the real ticker though, but I'm working on it ONCE AGAIN. The first time I got run down to the Forge, being fairly new at the game, I was like "I've got to learn this!!" and I did. Fun times--and not really even for the $, I just enjoy running alot. (and I did finish all of the game.

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by xxSilhouette
I know what you mean. Like two or three days ago I was on my ranger doing the gates of madness, and the leader of the party wanted everyone to ping there skill bar. Im so self-conscious because I don't follow a build on her whatsoever. I have rebirth, Charm animal, barrage and a few other Interrupt skills - but I made it all myself. And im waiting for the day that I do that, when im not following a build and someone calls me a 'noob' and I go crazy mad. I'm not a noob, I just like to play with builds - I read them to get ideas, But i rarely follow them straight (only when its a farming build).
Being original>following a build. Have fun with what you do tell anyone who says any different to sod off!

xxSilhouette

xxSilhouette

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Lost in the sands of time...

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

R/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by garethporlest18
Being original>following a build. Have fun with what you do tell anyone who says any different to sod off!
Feels good to hear someone say that !

atkafighter

atkafighter

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lonesamurai
i have a warrior in presea that got a mini pet recently... is that enough love for presear?
When I first got the Original Guild Wars (ages ago) I thought Pre Searing WAS the whole game. I got frustrated since I didn't play with anyone, and got stuck at like level 12. I even tried other classes, but I ended up taking a break for a LONG time. My friends picked up Guild Wars Factions, and got me back into the game, and they told me about the REST of Prophecies. XD I had 3 minis in Pre Searing .

Oh and about what I miss... I think it would be doing quests with people. And my friends list being full of people, and my Guildmates [last sign on is like 5 months ]
Also back when a friend gave me a (non-max) FDS. It was so cool holding the same sword as Prince Rurik, and I had a blast showing it off (since most everyone in Ascalon were pretty nooby then). Ahh ignorance truly is bliss.

tre_peter

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Northern Ireland

Killing a Level 0 Bog Scale - Basically everything being new.

Now that everyone is a 'pro', there is no more niceness.

I miss Prophecies feeling difficult. I think that's because it was designed for people experimenting with builds and in the beginning that's what they were doing. In the next chapters you need the whole team to be as efficient as possible in the early stages of 'max armor' gameplay, and the games feel like grind. I like lots of easy PvE, sprinkled with hard elite areas/missions.

I also miss the feeling you get entering unique areas like Mineral Springs, as opposed to entering some other dried up wasteland.

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by atkafighter
Also back when a friend gave me a (non-max) FDS. It was so cool holding the same sword as Prince Rurik, and I had a blast showing it off (since most everyone in Ascalon were pretty nooby then). Ahh ignorance truly is bliss.
Actually this is probably the biggest thing I miss, the ignorance we all once had about the game

Crystal Of Winter

Crystal Of Winter

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

London, UK

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by atkafighter
I had 3 minis in Pre Searing .
mini pets? o.O people were able to keep their chars from the WPE in 2004 then? o.o

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by garethporlest18
Being original>following a build. Have fun with what you do tell anyone who says any different to sod off!
Absolutely. I don't think I've ever used anyone else's build, whether posted here or elsewhere...maybe that's why I'm still having fun!