Guild Wars CH 4 Info Please

thelegendozelda

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

OoT

W/Mo

Hello,

I have ran into and meet alot of nice people in the GW world. I have talked with many hours on end about GW related issues. While GW is a wonderful game and remains a wonderful game. Olders players are running out of fun things to keep occupied with. I now myself and others I have talked to need something to keep us going something to look foward to. I know the fact a new game coming out soon is something......but more info is needed....please do not wait until 2 weeks before release to let something out. I know many I play with will be gone by that time and the release date is for April.

Alot of people will not agree with me but I think a little glimmer of something may help the older gamers stick around.

Thank you for your time.

Zelda,

feel free to call me a stupid......and such

floppinghog

floppinghog

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

pit of brimstone

Squad Six Six Six [ssss]

A/Me

You're right pal, but I guess Anet just isn't ready to release anything yet.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

They release info when their ready.

But I feel this is the fault of people finishing the game too quickly. Often because they play the game too much 10-12+ hours.

Me and plenty of my guildies still have tons to do in Nightfall and the last two chapters.

People will leave, and many of those same people come back again. Time and time again.

Pwny Ride

Pwny Ride

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Aussieland

Prime Players Of [OSHA] ~ [dth] alliance. <3

Me/E

Can we delete this like now? There are like eleventybagillion other threads like this, since search doesnt seem to be a plausible option for some people...

borkbork

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Me/

When it's done.

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pwny Ride
Can we delete this like now? There are like eleventybagillion other threads like this, since search doesnt seem to be a plausible option for some people...
Search often doesn't work for some people

As much as I would like information on the next chapter, and I see the OPs point, I don't feel I'm gettin gbored at all, despite having taken 7 characters through elona, with a couple more on the way. My brother decided on a solution to this problem...he's having a dedicated character slot just for starting a new character again and again...that way, when he gets bored he can just...start afresh...delete...rinse and repeat. Good idea I think...and then I can buy all his monastry credits off him!

My solution to the boredom problem is working on titles. My Ele is my "Title Collector" and currently has Kind of a Big Deal...so People Know Me is the next one to work towards. During the "dead time" between campaigns (not my words...i don't think it's "dead time") I also work on giving my characters the nicest looking armor I can (not always prestige armor ) Then when I'm bored either farming or title collecting I'll help people...either friends online or I'll stand in The Marketplace offering help with Mayhem in the Market...then go on to do Vizunah Square with people if they want it...I love that mission...

thelegendozelda

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

OoT

W/Mo

Thank you for your replys, time to stare at the screen randomly helping people gain olias, and other random quest

boxterduke

boxterduke

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Walking the ruins of Ascalon

DVDF

Me/

I know what you mean but finding less and less things to do, but I always find things though.

Have you capped all elites?
Have you finished all quests?, even ones in explorable areas and depend on other quests.

What I'm into these days is doing all the vabbi quests to get as many trade contracts so I can get vabbi armor for my neglected paragon

But yeah, I wish we have more info about ch4

Tetris L

Tetris L

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Germany

Servants of Fortuna

Quote:
Originally Posted by thelegendozelda
Olders players are running out of fun things to keep occupied with. [...] I know many I play with will be gone by that time and the release date is for April.
My sentiments are pretty much the exact opposite.

Even though I concentrate on only 3 of my 11 characters I feel that I'm far from done with the game. In all three campaigns I still have plenty of things to do, even if I count only my main characters, and even though I pretty much ignore PvP completely.

Actually, I hope that C4 will be delayed, to give me more time to complete various tasks in Prophecies, Factions and Nightfall. I'm hoping for a release not end of March (which would be the date according to ANet's 6-month-cycle), but later this year, in summer or autumn. If ANet really release in March I may even skip one chapter and stick to the old ones.

Neriandal Freit

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris L
My sentiments are pretty much the exact opposite.

Even though I concentrate on only 3 of my 11 characters I feel that I'm far from done with the game. In all three campaigns I still have plenty of things to do, even if I count only my main characters, and even though I pretty much ignore PvP completely.

Actually, I hope that C4 will be delayed, to give me more time to complete various tasks in Prophecies, Factions and Nightfall. I'm hoping for a release not end of March (which would be the date according to ANet's 6-month-cycle), but later this year, in summer or autumn. If ANet really release in March I may even skip one chapter and stick to the old ones.
Basically the same Tetris.

My life is a big part of stuff right now, and I don't have all the greatest time to run through the game like other people (unfortunately) do.

And, I have a total of four other characters I've not even touched yet and would like to pull them through everything. But, I do know that the Fouth one will likely be done before I get a chance, but that's fine. I'll have to do what I did before, and just keep playing the other three untill I complete what I wanted to complete (In those cases, capturing all Elites of the two campaigns and pulling my Mesmer through Cantha before playing Elona.)

thelegendozelda

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

OoT

W/Mo

Yea lets all hope they hold off and dont release it until 2010.....

Asplode

Asplode

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Chicago, IL

Rebel Rising [rawr]

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
People will leave, and many of those same people come back again. Time and time again.
Maybe that was true for Factions, maybe a little for Nightfall, but I truly believe chapter 4, or maybe 5 will possibly be the last one. People may come back, but the longer people are gone from GW the more rooted they become to whatever they've started playing/doing, and the more committed they will be.

Thus, with GW's steadily declining population (at least in a pvp perspective) and longer away times for players in the offseason (I personally started playing WoW), the incentive to continue playing GW's expansions will inevitably fail to pique a person's interest, at least enough to tear them away from whatever they decided to move on to. Ergo the generated revenue would eventually not be able to justify the cost to make new expansions...probably.

This of course is my opinion, based on what I've seen in the american pvp community, but if you look at the guild ladder, the Asian community has clearly found new interests as well.

thelegendozelda

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

OoT

W/Mo

I just need somthing to keep me going something to look foward to. If not ........

uther necro

uther necro

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2006

You Cannot Escape It You Are [Wave]

E/Me

The only way that GW is going to win back some of there more popular players is if they get everything right with this chapter. This chapter is the turning point and if they get it right many players will come back from playing WOW and all that other stuff. i know i came out of an early retirement from gvging and such just so that i could check out nightfall. if the creators of factions can make a comeback with this game and bring all the ppl back from WOW i will be greatful to them.

Shmanka

Shmanka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

In Your Head

The Brave Will Fall [Nion]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by thelegendozelda
I just need somthing to keep me going something to look foward to. If not ........
Aw cmon zelda I know the game has gotten stale in some parts so my next adventure is suvivor 3 and loving it. I also you you have had KoaBD halfway when factions was released and have done alot on many professions. I suggest doing some competitive PvP to stall while you wait on chp 4

thelegendozelda

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

OoT

W/Mo

Swift,


I have KoABD on 5 guys now.........I guess i have played to much

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

I am still "trying" to complete the Luxon part of Factions one day

YES, I want info about Ch4, but I don't want it released this April; I will be happy if they release it in October (1 year after Nightfall)

I think, we need a little brake of new skills/professions for a while; Also, I think GW campaigns are still selling; a new one could STOP Nightfall popularity and down sales.

Gregslot

Gregslot

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by NeHoMaR
I think, we need a little brake of new skills/professions for a while; Also, I think GW campaigns are still selling; a new one could STOP Nightfall popularity and down sales.
You are so dam right.

If they tell us everything now, they will ruin the surprise!

thelegendozelda

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

OoT

W/Mo

Oh noes!!! Please dont ruin the surprize!! /goodgod....

Simply do something to hold interest, I roughly have 279 things written down that would vastly improve certain areas....but does that matter? Hell no... I've played this game for 22 months now...does that matter to anyone? Hell No. Make the older gamers happy? Hell No..........why? Cause the new games arent expansion packs..... but.....Stand Alone games,

If Joe Slum over here has played 22 months so what? <--isnt market target

Little Timmy Snot nose here has $50 bucks from grandma Georgetta.....<---IS

Why? Cause the games arent exp. So is doesnt matter if the same people buy the game or not, they only need new sales.....
Loose a 1000, add 10, 000 little timmys

Sorry,

peffy

peffy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Paradise of Idiots

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris L
Actually, I hope that C4 will be delayed, to give me more time to complete various tasks in Prophecies, Factions and Nightfall.
heh, I'm in a similar situation. At the rate I'm playing, and at the rate Anet is releasing new chapters, I'll be playing this game for another 20 years before I finish all my goals.. but still, if they feel that they can keep up their 6-month schedule, they will release it on time, because they apparently need the revenue every 6 months.

devils wraths

devils wraths

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

the fianna [fi]

E/Mo

they must have something to say after nearlly 6 months of making already

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pwny Ride
Can we delete this like now? There are like eleventybagillion other threads like this, since search doesnt seem to be a plausible option for some people...
Sadly the forums are very big and regular search can bring up so many results, it's frustrating going through all of them to see their relevance to what people searched for.
And the advanced search has been broken for a very long time. Unless there are boards about Science and Technology on gwguru.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

hm, still working on getting my 8 toons thru elona. Only 1 has finished 1 is at the realm of torment, one just got to the bone palace, my first monk is working on vabbi quests.....and my 2nd monk still has to finish chapter 1 (stuck on the ring of fire missions)....and my 2nd mesmer has yet to ascend....lots to do! Not to mention I still have a new ele who is stuck on the beginer island!

for those who have all their titles and such.....help some of us less fortuneates out.....some pugs---.well you all know about pugs. some of us smaller guilds need to use pugs for some of the missions.....help us out!

Slirith

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/W

im still trying to find my character niche lol...havent found a char i wanna stick with yet...all i know is, paragons are out lol...overnerfed like whoa >.> trying a ele atm, not SF thank god

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Games = Business (and Fun for some companies) The only they need is Money (and Fun), so if ArenaNet are making money (I hope they are), why not wait some months.

Offtopic: I will NEVER understand why some people has multiple PvE characters of the same profession.

Makkert

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by NeHoMaR
Offtopic: I will NEVER understand why some people has multiple PvE characters of the same profession.
think out of the box.
maybe they have a different mindset then you...

Neriandal Freit

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Makkert
think out of the box.
maybe they have a different mindset then you...
I've pondered over making a female elementalist just to have it, to understand a different aspect of game play, different armors...and to get free stuff

cthulhu reborn

cthulhu reborn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

the Netherlands

W/Mo

Well, I have finished Elona with 10 characters, finished Cantha with 10 characters and finished Prophecies with 7 characters.

I tried DoA and it is too tedious to enjoy. Sure, to one day make a group to go through it all so I can say I did I can still imagine...going through it multiple times to get enough gems to get me one armbrace of truth for a cool weapon...don't think so.

My point and my hope is that GW will use new expansion to give more options to characters. You need 1 weapon, or a weapon and an off-hand. Maybe a 2nd or 3rd set for different builds.
The rest is armour and that is it as far as stuff is concerned. All armours have the same options...just add them as you like.
All weapons are the same...no matter the skin a max. sword is 15-22 with 3 upgrade options of which only a few combo's make sense. Who cares if your sword does bleeding for 24 or 32 seconds? Most enemies are not supposed to live that long.

So chapter 4 is a secret...sure I wanna know what's gonna come. But regardless of what it is and what the surroundings will be, I just hope it will include more things to expand your character. Sure I can spend my time capping all elite skills...but why? I certainly don't need all of them and don't want all of them. There are billions of titles and you only use one at a time anyway.

Anet can keep their secrets as long as they feel they need to, but I hope they understand that the next title should not be a title for having tons of characters on 1 account. I don't need new character classes on each expansion, because in the end it will mean that I have too many characters and I won't play half or more but I won't delete them because of the expensive armours on them. I have at least one 15k armour on each character. Why? Because it's largely the only thing left to do for your characters...

thelegendozelda

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

OoT

W/Mo

^ Makes some sense......

Basically.....I just want something to tie me over while i am waiting, also the DoA......been there......done that.....bashed mallyx's face in several times

Aegeroth

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Sydney, AUS.

Sons of Dark Magicians [SoDM]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris L
My sentiments are pretty much the exact opposite.

Even though I concentrate on only 3 of my 11 characters I feel that I'm far from done with the game. In all three campaigns I still have plenty of things to do, even if I count only my main characters, and even though I pretty much ignore PvP completely.

Actually, I hope that C4 will be delayed, to give me more time to complete various tasks in Prophecies, Factions and Nightfall. I'm hoping for a release not end of March (which would be the date according to ANet's 6-month-cycle), but later this year, in summer or autumn. If ANet really release in March I may even skip one chapter and stick to the old ones.
Thirded!
Minimum Charcter Requirement!

Undressed

Undressed

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Reich

none

W/

I always wonder about people complaining there wouldn't be anything to do anymore and it seems it really affects them, yadda yadda yadda.

Get more hobbies imho.

Quest_techie

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

I would love a christmas release, BUT I would want the thing to be worth waiting that long, and I'd want something like an auction house between now and then <and that hard mode there is speak of would be nice>

Tempy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Oregon

DOH

Id love info too...but why release anything when lately the only thing it would do would be to cause people to bitch about it before its even viable? At least keeping quiet and doing the Utopia thing...they keep us baited...sorta like Gwen's story.

Sqorgar

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris L
Actually, I hope that C4 will be delayed, to give me more time to complete various tasks in Prophecies, Factions and Nightfall.
I'm sorry to say, but that's not a particularly compelling argument. I mean, why should all the other hundreds of thousands of players be forced to get game content on your schedule? You can still complete your tasks later. I mean, I haven't finished any of the games, but I'm still looking forward to the next chapter. But I'm not a task orientated gamer. Everybody benefits from a bigger playground with more toys.

I don't mean to pick on you, but I've seen this sort of comment before and it's just struck me as incredibly self centered. I mean, most of the recommendations against new professions/skills/expansions/heroes/whatever have usually come from a place of self interest, but at least they try wrap it up in an objective (though usually silly) reason.

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris L
Actually, I hope that C4 will be delayed
me 2. This way anet has time to fix and balance this chapter, and get on with the shit they promised thats now delayed until april. AT's anyone?

Meat Axe

Meat Axe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Brisbane, Australia

R/

I look forward to a game being released every 6 months. Sure, it stacks up more things you have to complete, but at least you have something to occupy your time.

I'm on holidays from uni at the moment (have been since start of november, and still have 3 weeks left) and having 3 games of Guild Wars has been such a blessing. I mean, there's only so much time you can spend going out and getting pissed. And when your work only gives you one shift a week, even though you said you are available any day, it also kind of limits the things you can go out and do.

I've never actually finished any of the games, mostly because I keep making a new character. Got up to the desert with my first char, then stopped playing him. Deleted my second char, because she was an assassin (need I say more?). I'm almost finished NF with my Dervish, but taking a break to level my new ranger to get DoA. So yeah, I have plenty to do to occupy the time when I'm not drunk, and so I'm not complaining. I long for more and more content. I don't know why anyone would complain about having too much to do in a game.

It's not absolutely crucial to finish every last thing in one game before the next comes out. It's also not crucial that you play the new ones as soon as they are released. If you want to finish an old campaign, do that and then start the new one. GW is probably going to be around for awhile.

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sqorgar
I'm sorry to say, but that's not a particularly compelling argument. I mean, why should all the other hundreds of thousands of players be forced to get game content on your schedule? You can still complete your tasks later. I mean, I haven't finished any of the games, but I'm still looking forward to the next chapter. But I'm not a task orientated gamer. Everybody benefits from a bigger playground with more toys.

I don't mean to pick on you, but I've seen this sort of comment before and it's just struck me as incredibly self centered. I mean, most of the recommendations against new professions/skills/expansions/heroes/whatever have usually come from a place of self interest, but at least they try wrap it up in an objective (though usually silly) reason.
Yeah I really hate those arguments as well. It's like saying "They shouldnt make Booty Call 2 because I havent seen Booty Call yet!"

Vapor_Fighter

Vapor_Fighter

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

DRKN

W/

Theres always something to do, heck you have multiple charactars and 3 campaigns. For CH4 i would like there to be like a while pre-searing thingy like the good ole prophecies has. But then i also hope that ch4 doesnt come out like factions...the worst ch yet in my opinion, most of my buddies left after factions, but nightfall was better hopefully ch 4 will be better than nightfall. But the original is always the best, Prophecies=#1

Silly Warrior

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

Join Date: Jul 2006

In your local courthouse.

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

What I don't get is why Anets so secretive about their campaigns, its not like someone is going to steal the idea...what do they have to hide?

"Oh no, the players know about Ch4, and now they are interested....this is terrible."

We know it exsists, yet we know literally nothing about it. Imagine if The Burning Crusade (WoW Expansion) wasn't announced until 2 months before release? So many players would have already moved on.

In conclusion....what on earth does Anet have to hide? They have every reason to tell us, and no good reasons to not.

milias

milias

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Defected back to America

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
They release info when their ready.
Agreed. ANet will do whatever they consider is best for the company.