Yangansin

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Yanman.be
Yanman.be
Banned
#1
I was doubting how I would name this little fellow...Yanman+gank+assassin kinda makes "Yangansin". If anyone has any better ideas, please go ahead.


So I logged on this morning. Test Weekend. Aha! Let's see what builds I can make with new sin elite buffs.
[skill]Beguiling Haze[/skill]? Not my taste.
[skill]Assault Enchantments[/skill]? Done that last time, not too happy with results.
[skill]Shattering Assault[/skill]? I prefer all-round sin builds, not just caster killers.
But then...I saw [skill]Exhausting assault[/skill], a non-elite.'Must follow a Lead Attack'. Then I glanced at my favourite, unchanged elite: [skill]Moebius Strike[/skill]. And then it struck me. The synenergy! Following brain storm produced this build:

[skill]Leaping Mantis Sting[/skill][skill]Exhausting Assault[/skill][skill]Moebius Strike[/skill][skill]Death Blossom[/skill][skill]Deadly Paradox[/skill][skill]Feigned Neutrality[/skill][skill]Shadow Walk[/skill][skill]Mending Touch[/skill]

12+1 Dagger Mastery
11+1+1 Critical Strikes
6+1 Shadow Arts
2 Protection Prayers
1 Deadly Arts

Now, this setup is what I used in AB. You can easily modify various parts of this build.

Stuff I came up with myself:
[skill]Disrupting Stab[/skill](Too high of a recharge, you need a snare, so [skill]Leaping Mantis Sting[/skill] has more synergy), or [skill]Desperate Strike[/skill](niche skill, bonus damage is also bad ).
[skill]Twisting Fangs[/skill] if you're a ganksin and don't want to be around that long ( though 1 TF doesn't kill archers )
Basically the entire shadowstep-healing part could be swapped.

My armour setup gives me 600 health and 32 energy, what should be enough ( if you're taking more skills, decide for yourself. )
I'd take a zealous, vamp and elemental dagger tang. Real sins swap.

*Note*Skill cards have not yet been updated, so don't use the skill information on those icons to judge this build.
Lord Nibiru
Lord Nibiru
Lion's Arch Merchant
#2
ok,it is nice,you can always interrupt target,and deal damage to it (or them)
Agyar
Agyar
Frost Gate Guardian
#3
What are the animations like when you use this build? I'm not really interested unless it feels like my assassin is a real ninja/shinobu. Hopefully your build includes some skills to throw shuriken and climb walls.
Yanman.be
Yanman.be
Banned
#4
He's more like Naruto. He kills people, so do I.
d
dargon
Furnace Stoker
#5
Uhm, maybe I'm missing something, but Exhausting Assault is a dual-attack, which means you need an offhand to use it, and Moebius is an offhand that must follow a dual-attack. You don't have an offhand however to start the chain and as such, the only attack you have that will actually work is Leaping Mantis.
Yanman.be
Yanman.be
Banned
#6
Yeah I haven't put it in the topic. I'll update it.

Exhausting Assault got updated. I figured everyone read the updates.

Exhausting Assault now needs to follow a lead attack. So. there you go.
clawofcrimson
clawofcrimson
Desert Nomad
#7
I would definitely take TF... why wouldnt you? ... if your attacking a foe that also has 600 health deep wound is effectively 120 damage...

and exhausting assault isnt really the best skill to base a build on... in fact.. it kinda stinks... eles self inflict exhaustion anyway...so they know how to deal with it...you cant really go toe to toe with a warrior without ending up shadowing out....so basically you are built for killing necro/monk casters who cant handle the damage/exhaustion....

so its not really an all around build if you ask me... you are the one who told me that you need to pick your targets as a sin ...soooo... what targets did you have in mind?
tortugan
tortugan
Krytan Explorer
#8
Seems like a nice solid build, I can't wait to test it out myself.

A few notes tho:

Can you outpressure monks with that build? It seems like that because of the interupt, tho it uses a lead attack.

How does the build fare against Warriors? With elemental you get through some of their armor, but is that enough?
Yanman.be
Yanman.be
Banned
#9
It depends on what environment you're in. Death Blossom shines in PvE, AB shrines etc. Also you can keep spamming it.

Twisting Fangs is more spikey.


Exhausting Assault is merely a good way to quickly get to Moebius Strike. And the interrupt. I don't think anyone would ever notice the exhaustion. (unless you kill them and they res again with max energy )


Death Blossom's +42 armor ignoring damage is pretty nice against warriors.

If you really want to outpressure monk, I advise Yanssassins or sp boa's. This is to kill unprotted targets without endangering yourself.
clawofcrimson
clawofcrimson
Desert Nomad
#10
um... +damage is not armor ignoring damage....
Yanman.be
Yanman.be
Banned
#11
It does ignore armor. Wanna see your kinetic + armor of earth+ dolyak signet vs Death Blossom or anything else with +damage?
T
The Red Knight
Krytan Explorer
#12
You fail at assassin builds
Yanman.be
Yanman.be
Banned
#13
You fail at punctuation.

*edit*
I should've posted the disrupting stab-exhausting assault-moebius strike- twisting fangs. People clearly don't read the notes.
T
The Red Knight
Krytan Explorer
#14
still a horrible idea. whatever assassin hex black spider horns twisting moebius is where its at. Death blossom might be a good idea with the buff but the chain kd's you get with moebius is great.
Chamber Asgardian
Chamber Asgardian
Academy Page
#15
What's with you against using sup and major runes. How do you expect to do any real dmg. Yes, I know what your gonna say "I rather have more health than more dmg b/c i'd rather stay alive", well health isn't the only thing that keeps an assassin alive. 450-500 something is just as good as 600 health.
Crazyvietguy
Crazyvietguy
Krytan Explorer
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by The Red Knight
You fail at assassin builds Even though im not a large fan of this build as i am the Yanassassin. It does allow for a spamable DB.

And for you Red, if you played Assassins at all, you would see that this build only holds up in AB and PvE like he said. If your planning on spiking a target.. dont use this. But if your trying to cause sustainable pressure this is a good choice.
Yanman.be
Yanman.be
Banned
#17
Yeah, but it's not needed here.
clawofcrimson
clawofcrimson
Desert Nomad
#18
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The Red Knight
Krytan Explorer
#19
yeah you know I never play assassin in gvg nah never esp not in lag :]
Yanman.be
Yanman.be
Banned
#20
The +damage from attack skills has no type.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Damage#Damage_Shifter

Damage Shift there is +42 from Executioner's Strike. If you go see in the formula, it's not reduced by armour at all. However, it can be absorped.