Okay me and friends have been trying to figure this out. There are many many UW builds, half being solo builds. 90% of the builds are so simple a chimp could use them (not litterally).
The other day I saw Ectos @ 12k at trader. So why the huge jump in price?
I understand the bringing of Nightfall and the time where ectos would be up. But, it has been up for far too long. Too many ectos on the market, and they're easier to get than ever.
Moving to Euro servers, you could easily make 250 ectos in a matter of days. So im still "confuzzled" about the prices. Are there still that many people who can't solo UW but still have the money to buy ectos?
Mysterious Ecto's
Curar Partida
Hockster
250 ecto in days? Maybe, but very doubtful, if you do nothing buy farm 24/7. The ecto drop rate appears to be even lower than ever, most builds are not bot friendly therefore less farmers flooding the market, ebay is removing virtual item listings so those that partake are now forced to buy in game. All the little things gradually add up to higher prices.
Curar Partida
Ya but i spent 5 days farming UW in Euro servers. Half way thru 5th day i got my 250th ecto. Was no problem at all. All though iw as at the point of boredom where i staired virtually THROUGH the monitor.
Navaros
I started solo farming the UW about a month ago and I was shocked to realize that getting mass amounts of Ectos is not so rosy of a task as it used to seem when I'd never done it. Like the OP's statement of getting 250 ectos in a few days - that wouldn't really happen and especially not "easily". Managing aggro of Aatxes and coldfires (and poking them when they get stuck, which requires aggroing them) is not "hard" persay for a good player, but it does take a lot of fortitude and a level of skill that the average player is not anywhere near.
In my view the most recent spike up to 12k is due to eBAY delisting Ectos.
In my view the most recent spike up to 12k is due to eBAY delisting Ectos.
Antheus
Hard-core farmers have two accounts anyway, one on each server. Before Factions came out I had two accounts for this very purpose, but later didn't bother to upgrade one of them, farming just got way too boring.
There's also another aspect to this. Buying ectos from players on the server that has favor and selling them on other can net you around 10-20% return, so if you put in a nice lump of cash, you can make steady income just by pushing ectos between euro and US servers.
As for 250 in 5 days? Does this mean 5 x 24 hours, 5 x 8 hours, or how many hours in UW exactly?
There's also another aspect to this. Buying ectos from players on the server that has favor and selling them on other can net you around 10-20% return, so if you put in a nice lump of cash, you can make steady income just by pushing ectos between euro and US servers.
As for 250 in 5 days? Does this mean 5 x 24 hours, 5 x 8 hours, or how many hours in UW exactly?
Koning
I think it's pretty much impossible to get 250 ecto's in 5 days. This means 50 ecto each day. Given that the average droprate of ecto is 2 ecto's in 3 runs means you gotta do 75 runs each day. The fastest way is ele/mesmer, and it takes about 10-12 min a run, lets say 15 min with selling your white junk and getting in UW again. thats 75*15 = 1125 min of farming, which is 18.75 hour. Given that drops tend to be lower after that many runs, and that you can have some luck in other runs, I don't pay attention to this. So A.) You have absolutly no life and need almost no sleep Or B.) You have some cheats where you get 10 ecto's each run.
About this rising price, it's probably because the bots that can't farm anymore and the average GW player is too stupid to make it to the smites anyway, especially with the new changes on AV and rend enchants. And ofcourse America doesn't have favor very much...
About this rising price, it's probably because the bots that can't farm anymore and the average GW player is too stupid to make it to the smites anyway, especially with the new changes on AV and rend enchants. And ofcourse America doesn't have favor very much...
Xenex Xclame
Sorry everything you just said is completely wrong.
Let me just point all the wrong points in the second part of your post.
Why cant bots farm anymore?The AI update which might be one of the reason for this supposed change, happened a while ago , people that use bots, have adapted long ago.
The changes to the skills happened for 3 days ago 2 weeks ago, and they were changed back after the weekend and this weekend doesn't even count.
The prices were high before any changes to skills were made .
Let me just point all the wrong points in the second part of your post.
Why cant bots farm anymore?The AI update which might be one of the reason for this supposed change, happened a while ago , people that use bots, have adapted long ago.
The changes to the skills happened for 3 days ago 2 weeks ago, and they were changed back after the weekend and this weekend doesn't even count.
The prices were high before any changes to skills were made .
Bryant Again
How come ecto's jump in price but not Obsidian Shards?
brokenmonkey
Ectos are bought more than Shards, because ecto is a currency in Guild Wars.
People buy ecto because you can only hold 100k, but ecto can stack and they range from 7-10 (even 12) k each. So people say Ill buy that or sell this for 100k + How ever many ecto. When ecto are at 10k or so, 100k +5 ecto is 150k, thats how people buy and sell High end items.
This is a reply to Bryant Again.
People buy ecto because you can only hold 100k, but ecto can stack and they range from 7-10 (even 12) k each. So people say Ill buy that or sell this for 100k + How ever many ecto. When ecto are at 10k or so, 100k +5 ecto is 150k, thats how people buy and sell High end items.
This is a reply to Bryant Again.
Phaern Majes
Last I checked shards were 3.5k or so, a few weeks ago they were under 3k. They may not rise in price as fast but they do generally go up when ecto does.
Koning
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Sorry everything you just said is completely wrong.
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Ecto's gone up for some long time now, since the AI update. That means, since bots stopped farming them, less of these things were in the market so price rose, in this case slowly. (i think you misunderstood me , bots are not the ONLY reason, but they rose in first place!)
secondly, a weekend like this and the first test weekend CAN let the ecto's rise like this. People stockpile ecto's because everyone can foresee its getting harder for normal people to farm UW (rend enchant etc) so price is rising because of this higher demand. If alot of ppl do this (which is very likely this weekend) the price will go up like we see now...
daraaksii
Ecto's price is high becouse nobody selling them to the trader maybe. And yeah. 250 ectos in 5 days is more than impossible.
reetkever
`Hmmm I think it's more reasons that causes ecto prices to rise.
First ecto prices were 6K each at trader, then Nightfall came out.
People make their dervish and/or paragon and they want to forge FoW armor for these classes. There are even some people who want a changable FoW armor (with insignia's), so they buy the new set for old characters.
Also, mass farming got practically killed, so alot of farmers either play the game or quit. Result is less UW soloing, so less ectos being produced. As a result of this, ecto's increased in price and people sell less to trader. This result also causes ecto prices to go up even more.
This weekend, more solo builds got nerfed, and builds became way slower so the ecto prices go up. If nobody can do UW, ecto prices will rocket to the sky...
First ecto prices were 6K each at trader, then Nightfall came out.
People make their dervish and/or paragon and they want to forge FoW armor for these classes. There are even some people who want a changable FoW armor (with insignia's), so they buy the new set for old characters.
Also, mass farming got practically killed, so alot of farmers either play the game or quit. Result is less UW soloing, so less ectos being produced. As a result of this, ecto's increased in price and people sell less to trader. This result also causes ecto prices to go up even more.
This weekend, more solo builds got nerfed, and builds became way slower so the ecto prices go up. If nobody can do UW, ecto prices will rocket to the sky...
Curar Partida
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Ecto's price is high becouse nobody selling them to the trader maybe. And yeah. 250 ectos in 5 days is more than impossible.
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Well i farm UW For every second that Europe has favor, then when america takes it, i simply hop on my american account. And, ya, i dont have a life so i can spsend 16-18 hours a day playing guild wars. I dont even have to sleep if i dont want. I'm just weird. Lol. And yes, seeing my runs usually last at max 30 minutes, ectos are easily farmed.
cachudo
That's sad and pathetic Curar Partida, wasting your life away playing guild wars all day long. When I think of you, I think of the old, fat, bald guy in the episode of South Park where the little kids fight to save World of Warcraft.
Koning
haha lol indeed, having no life at all is the only explanation of getting 50 ecto each day
NeHoMaR
My record is 3 ectos in 1 year. Never farmed UW.... maybe ... I will start soon, if I can leave PvP a moment.
Gun Pierson
250 ectos in a few days is greatly overrated. If you would say 120 ectos in a week, then I would believe you, maybe.
In between chapters prices of ecto seem to increase till a new chapter comes out and everybody wants to get the new armors. Once the masses got it, ecto starts to increase again as they want fow armor for a new class for example. This is only one factor that effects the ecto market.
In the early days before the new ai and even before they added nightmares and the limit of aggro, it was possible to farm 250 ectos in no time. But those days are long gone.
11-12k is not a big deal for an ecto, I remember they were 18-19k once.
In between chapters prices of ecto seem to increase till a new chapter comes out and everybody wants to get the new armors. Once the masses got it, ecto starts to increase again as they want fow armor for a new class for example. This is only one factor that effects the ecto market.
In the early days before the new ai and even before they added nightmares and the limit of aggro, it was possible to farm 250 ectos in no time. But those days are long gone.
11-12k is not a big deal for an ecto, I remember they were 18-19k once.
Carboplatin
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In the early days before the new ai and even before they added nightmares and the limit of aggro, it was possible to farm 250 ectos in no time. But those days are long gone.
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Roshi_ikkyu
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....Well i farm UW For every second that Europe has favor, then when america takes it, i simply hop on my american account. And, ya, i dont have a life so i can spsend 16-18 hours a day playing guild wars. I dont even have to sleep if i dont want. I'm just weird. Lol. And yes, seeing my runs usually last at max 30 minutes, ectos are easily farmed.
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UNLESS you have all character slots acting as mules to carry your ecto in which case times the numbers by 4 or even 5......
And if your even half sitting here trying to work out the maths, you'll realise you would be the stupidest farmer in history to start posting on a forum about a price hike that at even the lowest levels will net you... hmmm lets see 22'500 x 8'000 (current merch offered price where going cost here people not retail.) 180'000'000.
So it leaves the question why?
Ego, boasting that you can farm 250 ecto in 5 days.
Just general good olde fashion selfesteem building, acting like your somebody.
A loaded thread, possible flame bait.
Personally I smell BS, why complain when your perhaps the richest person in GW. And you post on a forum to "define" a increase in sale price that will surely only make you richer!
my favourite kind of idio-logic
twicky_kid
What you are seeing is a hording affect. Since ebay is not allowing people to sell virtual items anymore people are buying up all stocks of ecto. We also have about 2 months till chapter 4 is released. Before every chapter everyone sales off all their items to get gold so they can buy new things from the next chapter. New FoW armor is released with the new chapters so Ecto prices once again rise.
The hoarders are simply starting early while the prices are decent and a reaction to the ebay shock. They will wait until after the release of chapter 4 to sell off all their stocks.
Ecto is also used a currency that is why you do not see shards going up.
The hoarders are simply starting early while the prices are decent and a reaction to the ebay shock. They will wait until after the release of chapter 4 to sell off all their stocks.
Ecto is also used a currency that is why you do not see shards going up.
MMSDome
so in other words what twicky is saying that before every chapter it is every farmers wet dream because prices jump up and you get alot more for what you do.
johnactor
I'm one of the richest people in Guild Wars because I've got cool guildmates 
(er, meaning rich in terms of friendship, man, should I even have to spell it out!!)
(er, meaning rich in terms of friendship, man, should I even have to spell it out!!)
Mystic-
lol, I'm poor 
( but i got like 3 sets of fow and perfect pimped out 15k armor chars, warrior has like 5 15k sets + fow. 10k in storage gogo! (8 pves xD)
Oh and I have never farmed...
Long live the bad trade market!!!
( but i got like 3 sets of fow and perfect pimped out 15k armor chars, warrior has like 5 15k sets + fow. 10k in storage gogo! (8 pves xD)Oh and I have never farmed...
Long live the bad trade market!!!
Tauren Arcanist
Trader prices sky rocket because you can buy 5million gold for $20 on e-bay and your storage can only hold 1million gold so the e-gayers by from trader so they can get their e-gold faster lololol
Jetdoc
Here's a very informative thread where I gave a quick analysis of what's going on with ectos.
In summary, ectos will continue to rise until right before the next chapter comes out. As twicky kid referred to above, with the loss of very precious items in the game, people need to invest their wealth in something else - and therefore they purchase ectos.
In summary, ectos will continue to rise until right before the next chapter comes out. As twicky kid referred to above, with the loss of very precious items in the game, people need to invest their wealth in something else - and therefore they purchase ectos.
Zeph
250 ectos in 5 days? lol no way at all.
MegaMouse
Personaly I think that NC-Soft should make it so that every monster drops several ecto's thus flooding the market to break up the "Ecto Economy". This will solve 2 problems. 1 if the ecto numbers jumped then their wouldn't be a need for farmers to get them, 2 it will kill all the players who collected ecto's just because they were high priced.
Mega Mouse
Mega Mouse
Lonesamurai
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Personaly I think that NC-Soft should make it so that every monster drops several ecto's thus flooding the market to break up the "Ecto Economy". This will solve 2 problems. 1 if the ecto numbers jumped then their wouldn't be a need for farmers to get them, 2 it will kill all the players who collected ecto's just because they were high priced.
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Mega! ITS NOT NCSOFT THAT CONTROL THIS!!!
jesus, stop confusing people...
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we should be seeing a difference coming shortly now that Ebay has taken a stance on removing virtual item sales from the sites... of course this won't stop sales as most of these companies have sites aswell, however, it will help
Sirus Dibley
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Moving to Euro servers, you could easily make 250 ectos in a matter of days.
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amish lifeguard
I farmed 250 ecto in one day =O
ive got 30 koreans in my basement
ive got 30 koreans in my basement
bebe
^^^ Hey now. ;-;
I'm corean! And i'm not a farmer ToT
anyways.. sidenote my bf got around 120 ectos (for FoW) in about 4 days? farming on two accounts, one euro one american. and switching between the two depended on who has favor.
I'm corean! And i'm not a farmer ToT
anyways.. sidenote my bf got around 120 ectos (for FoW) in about 4 days? farming on two accounts, one euro one american. and switching between the two depended on who has favor.
amish lifeguard
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I'm corean!
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windcaller
i made a max of 20 ectos per day (before sv nerf) just to buy my mesmer some pieces of fow.(and i'm not 'hard core')
so i guess if you have no life, then yes, you can get alot of cash..
so i guess if you have no life, then yes, you can get alot of cash..
c_ras
Yeah, getting 250 in a matter of a few days does seem a little far fetched.
I'm happy right now with my one and only ecto. I've even gone a little far and named it "ecto 2".
Awhile back, my little ecto came to me and said "why did you name me Ecto 2 when I am your only ecto?"
Half grinningly, I turned to ecto 2 and I replied to him by saying, "because you'll never be:
I'm happy right now with my one and only ecto. I've even gone a little far and named it "ecto 2".
Awhile back, my little ecto came to me and said "why did you name me Ecto 2 when I am your only ecto?"
Half grinningly, I turned to ecto 2 and I replied to him by saying, "because you'll never be:
Lonesamurai
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Yeah, getting 250 in a matter of a few days does seem a little far fetched.
I'm happy right now with my one and only ecto. I've even gone a little far and named it "ecto 2". Awhile back, my little ecto came to me and said "why did you name me Ecto 2 when I am your only ecto?" Half grinningly, I turned to ecto 2 and I replied to him by saying, "because you'll never be:  |
c_ras
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Best post of 2007!
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You have had plenty of good posts yourself. I think when things start to either veer off in the wrong direction or get a little tense, a swift kick of humor sort of makes the day a little better.
Priest Of Sin
I'm thinking that it's impossible to farm 250 ectoplasm in 5 days... My logic? Well, ecto drop rates are swirling the drain. In 7 runs last night, I only got 2 ecto. So farming 250 ecto in 5 days? Good luck with that. It is, however, possible to BUY 250 ecto in less than 5 days (0 gold to 2000k)...
Running will net you (droks run) 20k every 15 minutes. This allows you to buy 2 ecto after each run. In 125 runs, you can make 250 ectoplasm. 125 runs will take around 1875 minutes, or 31.75 hours. So, with a little luck, you can make 250 ectoplasm in as little as TWO days, if you have almost no life.
Running will net you (droks run) 20k every 15 minutes. This allows you to buy 2 ecto after each run. In 125 runs, you can make 250 ectoplasm. 125 runs will take around 1875 minutes, or 31.75 hours. So, with a little luck, you can make 250 ectoplasm in as little as TWO days, if you have almost no life.
lennymon
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corean? rofl
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c_ras
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I'm thinking that it's impossible to farm 250 ectoplasm in 5 days... My logic? Well, ecto drop rates are swirling the drain. In 7 runs last night, I only got 2 ecto. So farming 250 ecto in 5 days? Good luck with that. It is, however, possible to BUY 250 ecto in less than 5 days (0 gold to 2000k)...
Running will net you (droks run) 20k every 15 minutes. This allows you to buy 2 ecto after each run. In 125 runs, you can make 250 ectoplasm. 125 runs will take around 1875 minutes, or 31.75 hours. So, with a little luck, you can make 250 ectoplasm in as little as TWO days, if you have almost no life. |