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tortugan

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

[DVDF]

06 Feb 2007 at 20:07 - 1

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Weekend Plans: 3-for-1 Fun 6 February 2007
This weekend, you have the opportunity to test Heroes' Ascent with an 8v8 party size configuration and share your comments throughout the coming week. In addition, PvE players will enjoy a weekend's offering of free access to Canthan Elite Mission and a doubling of the drop rate for rare items in those missions! Join us this weekend, starting at Noon PST on Friday, February 9.

www.guildwars.com

Awesome!

Ray

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Denmark

06 Feb 2007 at 20:11 - 2

Shake it, shake-shake-shake, shake it - Ohh OH!

TheRaven

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Virginia

Spirit of Elisha

W/

06 Feb 2007 at 20:16 - 3

WoooHoo, I finally get to see the Elite missions. I love that, but I'm worried that this will ruin the market value for those "rare" items in those missions.

darktyco

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

06 Feb 2007 at 20:31 - 4

Bleh, I hate how they only ever have this stuff on the weekends. I have a life and never play weekends

I demand week-long events!

Xenex Xclame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

DPX

R/

06 Feb 2007 at 20:39 - 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRaven

but I'm worried that this will ruin the market value for those "rare" items in those missions.

That wont happen, they opened up the elite missions a while ago for a weekend.

The thing about the elite mission which makes it that the value wont drop is that it takes some tactics to complete the missions, you get the reward at the end so if you mess up at half and wipe no reward for you.

The big problem was that there were so many people that had no idea of what to do, they for example went with the builds they normally would use in other places and they found out the hard way they don''t always work.The time was short so they didn't quite enough time to test and see what works for them.

One thing i can tell you about urgozz , this happened when they opened it too, everyone was in American districts ( don't know about other countries) making groups, one thing i can tell you from experience, most groups not made in int district don't make it, no idea why, but for some reason its like that.

Vapor_Fighter

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

DRKN

W/

06 Feb 2007 at 20:40 - 6

ehh screw the elite missions
8v8 is BACK BABY WOOHOO

Shmanka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

In Your Head

The Brave Will Fall [Nion]

Me/

06 Feb 2007 at 20:46 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vapor_Fighter

8v8 is BACK BABY WOOHOO

Hell has just broken loose...

I really hope Anet has an ace up their sleeve.
I personally favor the 6v6 format, yet this is a break in the window Anet just put up. I really do not want to see all the ridiculous builds up again but since the environment has changed in HA we could possibly see different things come about. I am now truly questioning though... is Anet doing this to bring the old school players back, then get them hooked on 6v6? Or are they seeing how many more people will actually play if its 8v8 and move it back?

Vapor_Fighter

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

DRKN

W/

06 Feb 2007 at 20:48 - 8

meh you make a good point...and oh crap now that i think about the builds, now its the returb of the bloodspikes and iway >.<

i think that there just trying to get a respons from the HA players to see what it was like and wether they like it 6v6 or 8v8 style now that they've played both

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

06 Feb 2007 at 20:54 - 9

Hmm, elite mission access is nice but it does not solve the problem of them having terrible access outside events. sigh

moko

??uo??o??

Join Date: May 2006

06 Feb 2007 at 20:55 - 10

rit spam will probably be even more common with 8/8 and i doubt bspike and iway will be back that much. still yay i guess..

Randomway Ftw

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ottawa, Canada

06 Feb 2007 at 21:00 - 11

8v8 is for nothing if these garbage changes stay.

TheRaven

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Virginia

Spirit of Elisha

W/

06 Feb 2007 at 21:01 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenex Xclame

That wont happen, they opened up the elite missions a while ago for a weekend.

The thing about the elite mission which makes it that the value wont drop is that it takes some tactics to complete the missions, you get the reward at the end so if you mess up at half and wipe no reward for you.

The big problem was that there were so many people that had no idea of what to do, they for example went with the builds they normally would use in other places and they found out the hard way they don''t always work.The time was short so they didn't quite enough time to test and see what works for them.

One thing i can tell you about urgozz , this happened when they opened it too, everyone was in American districts ( don't know about other countries) making groups, one thing i can tell you from experience, most groups not made in int district don't make it, no idea why, but for some reason its like that.

Thx for the advice. Obviously, I've never seen these missions so I'll be one of the folks with "no idea of what to do". I guess I'll just join a PUG and go in with my normal build the first time. Once I see what I'm up against, I'll adjust the build accordingly.

I have no delusions that I'll pwn the mission. I'll do a bit of research on Guildwiki and try to find a PUG that sounds halfway intelligent, but other than that I'm there to look around and have fun. It would be a nice bonus to pick up a Green or 2.

The first time I went into Fissure of Woe, I had no clue what to expect. I took my normal warrior build and joined an average PUG. We did pretty good. Just by using some common sense (don't aggro every dot on the map, and follow the leader's lead) I helped the group clear out the beach.

trobinson97

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Guildless :(

R/

06 Feb 2007 at 21:09 - 13

Greatnews, now maybe people will once again show up in the deep.

thedork01

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

All over the place

Broken Circle

E/Me

06 Feb 2007 at 21:19 - 14

*runs from the pugs in the deep and urgoz*

Nice on the 8v8 in HA though.

flamegrilled cheese

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

Genesis Knights

E/Me

06 Feb 2007 at 21:29 - 15

About time. Will finally be able to try the deep. Couldn't get a group last time where as ive got a character staying in urgoz to taxi players from my guild hall across.

As for the 8v8 new format that looks really good, I stopped playing after the 6v6 format put me off. Looks like I can return for a weekend.

Shuuda

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guildless

Me/

06 Feb 2007 at 21:31 - 16

It's nice to see a weekend that will make PvErs and PvPrs happy.

greenlantern

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

OA

06 Feb 2007 at 21:42 - 17

YEAH 8v8, put your hands in the air and wave them from here to there. Can't wait.

Elite mission double gold drops = yawn

Phoenix Ex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/R

06 Feb 2007 at 22:01 - 18

Woot Elite missions open! Everyone dance!

8v8..../yawn

dpcash

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

FoC

R/E

06 Feb 2007 at 22:13 - 19

/Waits for free access to UW/FoW weekend..... sigh

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

06 Feb 2007 at 22:41 - 20

Where is Canthan?

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

06 Feb 2007 at 22:55 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Skullcrasher

Where is Canthan?

Continents by chapter:

Prophecies - Tyria
Factions - Cantha
Nightfall - Elona

Shmanka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

In Your Head

The Brave Will Fall [Nion]

Me/

07 Feb 2007 at 00:41 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antheus

Continents by chapter:

Prophecies - Tyria
Factions - Cantha
Nightfall - Elona

sarcasm ftl.

More Outrage

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Yorkshire

GOO

07 Feb 2007 at 00:47 - 23

They should keep the elite mission easy entry for good not just for the weekend. Anyways I might have another go. Can heroes get in?

Phaern Majes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Anywhere but up

The Panserbjorne [ROAR]

R/Mo

07 Feb 2007 at 02:01 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randomway Ftw

8v8 is for nothing if these garbage changes stay.

Please don't tell me I just witnessed the following:

The Masses: Whine whine whine whine bring 8v8 back whine whine whine whine whine maybe a complain in there whine whine whine 8v8 8v8 8v8, we want 8v8.

Anet: Weekend of 8v8!

The Masses: Booooooooo you ruined HA yet again don't even bother bringing back 8v8....

Seriously make up your damn minds! Do you like 8v8 or don't you? If you do then S T F U and enjoy the benevolence for once ffs....

GrimWizard

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

R/Rt

07 Feb 2007 at 02:08 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phaern Majes

Seriously make up your damn minds! Do you like 8v8 or don't you? If you do then S T F U and enjoy the benevolence for once ffs....

Obviously you have made the incorrect assumption that everyone always liked 8v8 and that everyone complained about the 6v6.

Different Opinions FTW.

Anyway. This is a /yawn weekend for me. I have no interest in spending 5+ hours in the elite missions and I couldn't care less about HA.

Randomway Ftw

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ottawa, Canada

07 Feb 2007 at 02:13 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phaern Majes

Please don't tell me I just witnessed the following:

The Masses: Whine whine whine whine bring 8v8 back whine whine whine whine whine maybe a complain in there whine whine whine 8v8 8v8 8v8, we want 8v8.

Anet: Weekend of 8v8!

The Masses: Booooooooo you ruined HA yet again don't even bother bringing back 8v8....

Seriously make up your damn minds! Do you like 8v8 or don't you? If you do then S T F U and enjoy the benevolence for once ffs....

I plan to play during during the event so I can drive all the 6v6 lovers out of HA with the FOTM builds they could never beat. I wonder which one I'll run first IWAY or BSPIKE?

Don't expect me to stick around if ANET does not put the mechanics back to the way they were.

noocoo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

07 Feb 2007 at 02:23 - 27

Nice!!

But, isnt it 3 for 1 fun? 8v8, canthan elite, and where is another one?

ryanryanryan0310

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Scars Meadows [SMS]

07 Feb 2007 at 02:25 - 28

2x chance of gold drop.....

scrinner

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

07 Feb 2007 at 02:46 - 29

Beh this community really changes its mind, I browse through the HA test weekend forum to find trolls arguing about 8 vs 8 and i read this topic of those that want to keep it 6 vs 6. Personally i think 7 vs 7 is the best

RSGashapon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Sol 3

R/

07 Feb 2007 at 02:49 - 30

Prophecies Elite areas are open for all, barring favor.
Nightfall's Elite areas are also open, albeit difficult.
Factions Elite areas are locked up, except for the alliances that has a hold on them...

I think it's time for a change. I'd like to see Urgoz's Warren or The Deep open to every alliance aligned with the side that controls said areas. It shouldn't be just the one that controls House zu Heltzer or Cavalon. If the Luxon alliances have pushed hard into Kurzick territory, taken control of say 75% of the controllable outposts, then every Luxon alliance should get access to The Deep. The same goes for every Kurzick alliance in the opposite direction. Individual alliances can still lay claim to separate outposts, yes, since they won them. But make the Elite areas *slightly* more open than they are now. Ferrying is, and always has been, just an exploit of the issue, not a solution.

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

07 Feb 2007 at 03:05 - 31

Double gold drops was not enough back in the event during August. make it 4x gold drops, then it may be interesting.

sindex

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

California

Swords of Night & Day [SWRD]

07 Feb 2007 at 03:05 - 32

So I'm supposed to be impressed because it's 3 for 1 event; ha don't make me laugh. <--- sarcasm

I agree with RSGashapon it should be at least now open to anyone to that particular alliance. I mean there is hardly anyone there anymore in Urgoz and The Deep. I hate to say it but I think Sorrows Furnace brings out the masses better since it's available at a higher rate then its successor’s.

BogusDude

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

MARA

R/

07 Feb 2007 at 03:09 - 33

Just leave a char in Deep/Urgoz permenently then no problem, can still access GH

For all those who hate pug groups (me included) all your worst nightmares will come true this weekend lol. Fortunately we're organising some proper guild groups for the weekend and builds and tactics are already sorted

A possible solution to access to the elite areas might be a npc that appears after a certain point of the game, ie after completing 10k quests or even the game. Sorta like they do in the Command Post.

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

07 Feb 2007 at 03:27 - 34

this brings to light what I've been whining about for a long time; that of access and Gaile's promise many months ago to fix it. I hope twice per year free access events isn't the 'solution'.

zakaria

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

07 Feb 2007 at 05:16 - 35

yay ! 8v8 is coming back, so now hardcore PvPers abuse more skills that won't work except in 8v8 enviroment so Anerf nerf them to oblivion to make life for PvEers more hell, bring it on...

/sarcasm mode off

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

07 Feb 2007 at 05:23 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vapor_Fighter

i think that there just trying to get a respons from the HA players to see what it was like and wether they like it 6v6 or 8v8 style now that they've played both

You got it! We want people to have a chance to consider party size, as we promised we'd provide, after the recent changes were put into place.

We'll be pinging players about this in the future, you can be sure!

Quote:

Originally Posted by VitisVinifera

this brings to light what I've been whining about for a long time; that of access and Gaile's promise many months ago to fix it. I hope twice per year free access events isn't the 'solution'.

I don't think this is the answer, but certainly it is an answer. We'll see what the future brings!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shuuda

It's nice to see a weekend that will make PvErs and PvPrs happy.

I so agree.

Burn Butt

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Mafia of Annihilation [FeAr]

E/Me

07 Feb 2007 at 05:44 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSGashapon

I think it's time for a change. I'd like to see Urgoz's Warren or The Deep open to every alliance aligned with the side that controls said areas. It shouldn't be just the one that controls House zu Heltzer or Cavalon. If the Luxon alliances have pushed hard into Kurzick territory, taken control of say 75% of the controllable outposts, then every Luxon alliance should get access to The Deep. The same goes for every Kurzick alliance in the opposite direction. Individual alliances can still lay claim to separate outposts, yes, since they won them. But make the Elite areas *slightly* more open than they are now. Ferrying is, and always has been, just an exploit of the issue, not a solution.

I figure just make them 100% accessable all the time... God knows the first weekend they did that it was PUG hell in there, but that was while Factions was still fresh. Nowadays, with needing to know a little bit about how to play an elite mission, plus Nightfall being the "new thing" and soon Chapter 4 coming, you might see an ugly PUG rush into the Cantha elites if they openned the floodgates, but it would quickly simmer down into just people who knew what was going on entering the missions. Look how quick DoA went from 13+ districts down to 2... Anything short of this is just a pain in the ass. You don't have to meet any sort of high level qualifications to get a ferry...

The other major problem with the way things are at the moment is that in order to have access to the elites in Cantha, it requires capital town ownership. Capital town ownership requires massive faction. Massive faction requires massive PvP (and/or challenge farming). All of which leads to an alliance controlled city with fewer PvE players. Getting a ferry can be a real P.I.T.A.

Teger

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

LLJK

A/Mo

07 Feb 2007 at 07:00 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRaven

Thx for the advice. Obviously, I've never seen these missions so I'll be one of the folks with "no idea of what to do". I guess I'll just join a PUG and go in with my normal build the first time. Once I see what I'm up against, I'll adjust the build accordingly.

I have no delusions that I'll pwn the mission. I'll do a bit of research on Guildwiki and try to find a PUG that sounds halfway intelligent, but other than that I'm there to look around and have fun. It would be a nice bonus to pick up a Green or 2.

The first time I went into Fissure of Woe, I had no clue what to expect. I took my normal warrior build and joined an average PUG. We did pretty good. Just by using some common sense (don't aggro every dot on the map, and follow the leader's lead) I helped the group clear out the beach.

Hate to say this, but urgoz/deep dont work at ALL like that. They require specific builds, and coordination.

Anyways, it looks like my alliance wont be getting much money in ferrying this weekend

thelegendozelda

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

OoT

W/Mo

07 Feb 2007 at 15:29 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randomway Ftw

I plan to play during during the event so I can drive all the 6v6 lovers out of HA with the FOTM builds they could never beat. I wonder which one I'll run first IWAY or BSPIKE?

Don't expect me to stick around if ANET does not put the mechanics back to the way they were.

HAHAHA, thank god.....
If enough people do this monday morning, all the little tommy snots faces, will be scrapping at there keys, posting 6v6 please, hahaah

midnight caretaker

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

07 Feb 2007 at 16:05 - 40

8v8 = rebirth of iway and spikes = more people in HA