Rollerbeetle Highscores

Feathermoore Rep

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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So unless i missed something major, im pretty sure that the 100 highscores are all coming down to luck. Pretty much the only way you can get above 450k points, which doesnt even put you on the list atm, is to get at least 2 superrollers and not get knocked down.

The race is cool and all but after winning 12 straight and not breaking 450k mark once, the whole top 100 get a prize is fading away.

But anyway. Anyone has tips on the race, post them here. Or in a bit i may make a roller beetle race guide.

My tip: roll around before the start of a race to build up a small amount of momentum. Then as the timer hits 0 charge forward out of the gate and instantly use the skill "Ram" for a boost of speed and to knockdown all close foes.

onerabbit

onerabbit

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Thanks to all the guru [mods]

When cornering, dont go to close to the edge, as u will rubberband, then get thrown back...VERY ANNOYING

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

Getting in the top 100 requires you to have a rare combo of bonuses. The "Super Rollerbeetle" and the echo skill, making you immune to knockdown and make you roll alot faster for 16 seconds. Along with a good start, you should end up quite high, let alone if you get this combo twice.

So I agree, this is all about luck.

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

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If I wasn't rubberbanding left and right this would be a lot easier to get high score. But I won quite a few times and highest I got was 449.

Eldin

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

I'd say it's definitely based on luck. Once I got two super rollerbeetles in a row and got about 20,000 more points than usual. But yeah, you should avoid rubberbanding.

Another trick - at the start, harden your shell and dash ahead because this is a popular spot for mass ramming, and can greatly affect your place at the end of the race.

My highest so far is 447k.

Draikin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

The top 100 should have been decided by the number of consecutive wins instead of the score in my opinion. About the RollerBeetle Echo + Super RollerBeetle combo, I just noticed the boxes respawn very fast so you can basically camp there for 2 seconds and if you're lucky you'll get those two skills. It doesn't help that Super RollerBeetle is completely overpowered to begin with. My highest so far was 458k, which I got at the start when a lot of people didn't know what to do. Now that more people are competing for the top 100 it's getting even more difficult to achieve high scores.

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

So what do you get for winning the beetle race?

Durik Lakmor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Missouri

Pearl of Great Price

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Draikin
The top 100 should have been decided by the number of consecutive wins instead of the score in my opinion. About the RollerBeetle Echo + Super RollerBeetle combo, I just noticed the boxes respawn very fast so you can basically camp there for 2 seconds and if you're lucky you'll get those two skills. It doesn't help that Super RollerBeetle is completely overpowered to begin with. My highest so far was 458k, which I got at the start when a lot of people didn't know what to do. Now that more people are competing for the top 100 it's getting even more difficult to achieve high scores.
I kind of disagree wtih the most con. wins as this could be achieved by people with simply nothing better to do. Perhaps something like best average score (with a minium of say 10-20 wins or something like that) would be more appropiate.

Super RollerBeetle is defitnaly overpowered I led an entire race until about Checkpoint 6 until someone got one and came from last to first.

Having said that, this is defitnaly the best minigame i have played in GW.

Eldin

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Skullcrasher
So what do you get for winning the beetle race?
You get 9 lunar tokens for first place. Everybody dies except you, so you get to do a little victory dance. Then you automatically join a new race, kind of like PvP where you keep trying for consecutive wins. Nothing special.

Swift The Cunning

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

London

Charr Siege Investigation [CSI]

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definetly is the best minigame ive ever played on gw. I took a look at the lowest rating at the time which was 479 at the time. then went in and reached 481.100. Was so excited went to look at the score.... the lowest was 481.400 ... i was so mad xD

raven214

raven214

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

R/

I love this minigame.. lots of fun. I was originally determined to get in the top 100, but the highest I've gotten so far was around 440k... not even high enough to show up on the list. And that was with a very clean run too.

The rubberbanding sucks! I notice it especially in the "turn inside a turn" towards the end of the course. Incredibly annoying to be fighting for the lead going in, only to come out in the back of the pack cause you got "stuck" to the inside of the turn.

Great game, but don't know how anyone gets in the top 100.

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

It all depends on alot of Echo's and Superbeetles now, even the minimum is far from my maximum (554K). I guess there's not prizes for me.

And Swift, share your secrets!

Mr_T_bot

Mr_T_bot

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

The game's netcode is currently too terrible for them to have even considered a racing game in the first place. And that is to say nothing of their horrible hit detection and invisible wall system.

darktyco

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

I got 450,640 once, it was just cause I got good pickups though.

Viruzzz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

the highscores all come down to 3 things
super pickups: getting super roller/echo in every crate
no lag at all
not getting knocked down by players

i think the mini game is horrible. its a good idea. and it would work great if it wasn't for the horrible game engine supporting it. rubberbanding is horrible, the race-mechanics are bad, slowing down while going downhill? speeding up when going uphill? ... lag is worse than any other area i have been in. (even if it shows you next to 5 enemies you probably wont get any with ram, just because the game doesn't think you're actually where you are)

to sum up: the game is technically a good idea, but practically with the engine, lag and luck literally deciding races the game sucks

Durik Lakmor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Missouri

Pearl of Great Price

R/Mo

i think it is funny that people complain about not getting in the top 100...3 million + sold and everyone wants to be number 1 heh.

Anyway I seriously haven't ran into the rubberbanding issue that alot of people have, guess im lucky on that part (best score is only 442k tho, no lucky with the powerups)

To me its just like Mario Kart (which I loved), I'd love to have this as a perm feature.

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

Looks like a ripoff of mario kart. Plays nothing like it.

My tip is to stay away from it unless you are just looking to kill time.

Puebert

Puebert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

I don't think it's fair for only the top 100 to get a minipet.

My computer lags to much to even hope to get that high of a score.

I rubberband around corners, and get stuck in the middle of the staircase at the very end.

I went from 1st to 4th because of that staircase. :S

Durik Lakmor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Missouri

Pearl of Great Price

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega X

My tip is to stay away from it unless you are just looking to kill time.
same could be said about any game :P

raven214

raven214

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Durik Lakmor
i think it is funny that people complain about not getting in the top 100...3 million + sold and everyone wants to be number 1 heh.

Anyway I seriously haven't ran into the rubberbanding issue that alot of people have, guess im lucky on that part (best score is only 442k tho, no lucky with the powerups)

To me its just like Mario Kart (which I loved), I'd love to have this as a perm feature.
It's sorta like Mario Kart... if you cut off Mario's legs and blindfold him..

The lag is what really gets me though... I can't truly race because I'll "lag stick" on walls, and I don't think the game's recognized me as "ramming" someone even once yet no matter how many times I've bumped into them and used the skill.

I love the concept, it just doesn't translate well with GW's game mechanics.

onerabbit

onerabbit

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Thanks to all the guru [mods]

Same as me, i got echo, speed boost thing, then another after it, i was miles ahead, got to the end and froze -.-

then came last (

Feathermoore Rep

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I dont have that big of an issue with rubberbanding. This may increase as the day goes on, but we'll see. Largely lag is mostly on the clients side. AKA Its your fault for having crappy internet. Ok thats a bit harsh, but its still true. The best you can do to fix most lag is make sure guildwars is the only program running using the internet and all other major resource consuming programs are turned off.

And yea, they respawn every half second about i think. So if your really lucky you can pick up both echo and super in two turns and then jet out. But its not likely. But even if you waste several seconds its easy to get back up to 3rd or 4th if you camp the boxes for echo and super echo.

However i cant see that that is how the high scores were made. You would still have to pick up another super roll around gate 5 to even come close to the bottom of the top 100. So pretty much, its down to luck.

Hope no one KDs ya. :-p

EDIT - Oh and the races are god for earning quick tokens. You can easily rack up a stack by just winning races (like i did). Which you can then trade for stuff. So they are good for something. Well im off to check out the new quests. *waves*

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

I think they should change it to 1vs1 races, that way the random knockdown factors from 4 other players would not play so large a role and skill would be a bigger factor in determining the top 100.

holababe

holababe

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

Goon Squad [LLJK]

Mo/

I got 441 without getting a single super rollerbeetle/echo on my first try

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Yeah i think its a bit stupid how they're giving prizes to people that play this so much they eventually get the mother of all lucky skill combinations.

I've won 3 in a row... then the last race second place gets 3 Super Rollerbeetles IN A ROW... suddenly he's so far ahead he's not even on my map and i was in second and leading the back lot by a fair bit.

Feathermoore Rep

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I missed the idea that the top 100 should be consective wins. Thats an interesting idea. But ya know, you'd have those prize hungry people playing during dead hours so they could play against little competion, however maybe they'd all have the same idea and face each other. :-p

But its pretty easy to win at least 5 times in a row, once you know a quick path and box locations. And my highest is 454k with one superroller, which didnt even make the highscore list when i made it.

But i digress back to the point i wanted to make. Which is that the luck based point system isn't very rewarding to those who may actually be good at the race. Then again its just a mini-game, but you know what, I do care a little that what skill i have will only earn me tokens and more balth faction.

Omega X

Omega X

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Feathermoore Rep
Largely lag is mostly on the clients side. AKA Its your fault for having crappy internet. Ok thats a bit harsh, but its still true. The best you can do to fix most lag is make sure guildwars is the only program running using the internet and all other major resource consuming programs are turned off.
Harsh? Maybe. The Truth? That depends.

A lot more can contribute to lag other than the player's machine. Like network conditions in that particular area, ArenaNET's servers(it happens all the time), etc. etc.

darktyco

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

I think the game is very fun, but the action definitely gets jerky when you are bumping into each other. Like the game can't handle quick action or something.

EDIT: It is not my connection, and I doubt it is very many other people's connections. It is the network code of the Guild Wars engine.

Orphan Anthem

Orphan Anthem

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Kinetic Fusion [kF]

I manged flawless start and i did super bug 3 times and still i only hit 457. i am sad

Mr_T_bot

Mr_T_bot

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by darktyco
I think the game is very fun, but the action definitely gets jerky when you are bumping into each other. Like the game can't handle quick action or something.

EDIT: It is not my connection, and I doubt it is very many other people's connections. It is the network code of the Guild Wars engine.
Bingo, I'm running a solid high-end DSL connection. The lame lag and rubber banding is not my internet's fault.

Durik Lakmor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Missouri

Pearl of Great Price

R/Mo

I've yet to lag and I've raced quite a bit, so i am of the opinon it is mostly (if not entirly) client side lag.

edit: can also be things like your comp specs tho like I've posted mine aren't great, I think it maybe a bit of luck with the lag, who knows, I just know I've not ran into it on a 512/256 connection (which isnt "great")

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_T_bot
Bingo, I'm running a solid high-end DSL connection. The lame lag and rubber banding is not my internet's fault.
You do know the internet does not consist solely of "your connection" and "Anet's servers" right? There's a whole lot of shit inbetween those two points than neither you nor our benevolent overlords can do anything about.

Zehnchu

Zehnchu

Popcorn Fetish

Join Date: Dec 2005

[GODS]

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One race the one guy had a great lead right before the cave after that he finished I came in second but never crossed the line because he some how got so far ahead. Guess he was really luck getting echo and boots each time. But the one thing is I didn't get my prize for comming in second.

I've been lucky to get boost and echo's too but could only top out at 447k but wasn't good enough to make the list =(

Might be a good idea to reset the records every six hours or some thing like that

Elnai

Elnai

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Top Rating Loss Guild 5/25

Maybe.. I don't really know.

R/

Best was 460k when i got 3 super beetles....(oooo so close but ooo so far)

Its fun but the rubberbanding and the collision system should be fixed before this was introduced.

Stealthy Trapper

Stealthy Trapper

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Cincinnati, Ohio

Knights Assassins [Kill]

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I've been seeing a rumor that if you use less skills and still win a 1st then you get higher points as if you won with using skill after skill???

Any truth to this or just a rumor? Anybody have any ideas?

fripple

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

If the only thing that has lag is Guild Wars, and the lag only appeared when the event started, and the lag occurs even in areas that have nothing to do with the event, then it is not client-side lag. Just because some individuals have not experienced it does not mean they are entitled to say one word about the experiences of others. The lag is real, it is not the fault of the players, and Anet is aware of it - hence Gaile's post in the 007 thread asking if the recent build cleared some of it up, because apparently that was their intent (which failed). So people blaming the users can kindly shut up.

Severe lag problems are generally bad business when you're trying to sell people on a very limited-time activity.

Silver Spook

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

Rt/Me

I was first determined to get to ladder, but then reliazed how much it depens on luck and gave up. It's fun for awhile, but personally I prefer Dragon and Snowball arena more as these leave more room for player skill.

The Hand Of Death

The Hand Of Death

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Cavalon

The Last Pirates (SaVY)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Puebert
I don't think it's fair for only the top 100 to get a minipet.

My computer lags to much to even hope to get that high of a score.

I rubberband around corners, and get stuck in the middle of the staircase at the very end.

I went from 1st to 4th because of that staircase. :S
Yeah I agree with you. Especially since the mini pet is probably a beatle which I really have wanted as a mini since I first saw them.

Oh well guess I can try and find a cheap one.

~Death~

Sniper22

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Prizes should be awarded to people who can get 5 or 10 wins in a row, not the highest score because that is just based on luck. You have a higher chance of getting lucky if you play it a lot, and so its kinda based on time played, which gw is against.

GWaddict

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Siege Turtles

Me/R

I know those highscores are so high its not even worth trying to get to. Its all luck about if you can get superbeetle and other combos and not get knocked down. Not to mention lag and rubberbanding...