Rollerbeetle Highscores

Dancing Blade

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Me/A

I didn't have that much trouble with rubberbanding and the game is really fun, although it will eventually grow boring like any game if you play it too much. Atm I'm in the top 10 and i hope I'll still be in the top 100 by the end of the event.

How you get a good time depends on race tactics, other players not interfering with you, luck with the boxes and the course you roll.

Naomi Heartily

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

The Benecia Renovation [RenO]

Mo/Me

I'm extremely disappointed with the way this was handled. It had the potential to be a really nice feature, but the horrible lag and luck of the items really kills it. The constant rubberbanding really gets on my nerves.

Yabba

Yabba

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

it`s nice for some rounds if you`ve nothing else to do.
but trying to get the gamer title or to break into the top100 ? nah, to much luck dependend and the rubberbanding really gets on my nerves after a while.

btw 456k with one super beetle was my best. without super beetle you can win some races ( i had 4 consec wins with no super) but canĀ“t get even close to the top100 scores.

atkafighter

atkafighter

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

I'll let you know mine once I finish a race. =_=' I normally don't lag much in GW except the first 10-20 seconds upon entering an instance, but I can't do anything in races.

Swift The Cunning

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

London

Charr Siege Investigation [CSI]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxiemonster
It all depends on alot of Echo's and Superbeetles now, even the minimum is far from my maximum (554K). I guess there's not prizes for me.

And Swift, share your secrets!
It was seriousely just luck xD 3 people decided to leave so it was only me and 1 more guy. never got stopped once. Got a echo on the first set of boxes and kept it. Then i got a superrollerbeetle on the ones insde the cave. I then Echo-ed it assoon as i got out the cave on that rough bit that slows u down. Took the shortcut through the water and used the echo beetle so there it was no slowing down from the water. From there it was smooth sailing. So i had nothing which slowed me down, no stops from enemys, and even 2 super rollerbeetles with the shortcut through the water and still didnt get into top 100.

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

Maybe you get more points by doing knockdowns?
Or maybe there are little stunts you can do?

Mesmer in Need

Mesmer in Need

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

[ToA]

I got 8 consecutive, with no top 100. then some stupid sin ruined it for me

erfweiss

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Cold Black Eyes

W/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Naomi Heartily
I'm extremely disappointed with the way this was handled. It had the potential to be a really nice feature, but the horrible lag and luck of the items really kills it. The constant rubberbanding really gets on my nerves.
Before you all blame ANet for the lag, why doesn't one of you do a traceroute to see where the bottleneck is? You'd find out that there a lot of potential bottlenecks on the path there.

Then again, what do I know? I only do router/backbone surveillance for a living.

Viruzzz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Durik Lakmor
i think it is funny that people complain about not getting in the top 100...3 million + sold and everyone wants to be number 1 heh.

Anyway I seriously haven't ran into the rubberbanding issue that alot of people have, guess im lucky on that part (best score is only 442k tho, no lucky with the powerups)

To me its just like Mario Kart (which I loved), I'd love to have this as a perm feature.
I could care less about the top 100, and you have to realize that far from everyone is doing these races, you wont get 3.000.000 different scores. probably not even half (inactive accounts, multiple accounts per person for storage or additional characters, and the people who just aren't around for the even). and then there's the people who just plain suck at racing games, no offense to anybody, but some people just aren't "naturally good racers" if that makes sense, or they just don't like the game genre.

all that aside, its not the person who's better at the game that wins, its the person who gets the most luck on that round (the "right" powerups, and either no lag, or get lucky and cut a corner right so you don't rubberband)

i don't expect to get anywhere near the top 100, cause i fail in the lag part, i lag like crazy, and i rubberband backwards several times during a race,
normally I'm decent at racing games, but this minigame is a horrible replica of a racing game. it just does not work with the game mechanics.

in any normal racing game you slow down by turning, the tighter turn the more momentum you lose, in GW you can make a 180 degree turn and keep the momentum. this means that with no lag you can cut the best line through the track always.

in short, its a great idea. but horrible implementation.

EDIT: to the person above me (erfweiss) normally in a racing game people lag too, but you can drive on your own hardware and transmit your location to the server, here its the opposite, you tell what you're doing, and it doesn't matter what your computer thinks you're doing, if the server says you're stuck behind a rock a mile back, then you are stuck behind a rock a mile back. so even if arenanet is not directly responsible for the lag, their game coding is responsible for the effects that this lag causes
edit2: this wasn't meant offensively by the way

Feathermoore Rep

Feathermoore Rep

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

PM me for JACT Invite

Feathermoore Clan

R/Mo

Ya after investigating (playing), i found out that not all lag is your fault nor is it in the gw client. In fact it is other people who contribute to your lag. Then i thought back to my days of playing halo and the effect known as standby-ing. Now i doubt this would work with gw, but what happens is basically your "lags" in telling the sever what its doing, in effect on someone else computer you see people flickering across the screen. This is called, well duh, lag jumping. So in effect you can actually do better while you lag because the game doesnt receive the full information it should. Now this isnt the greatest technical explanation, but ive witnessed it many times during this mini-game. Someone will be rolling then jump side to side then infront of you. Or when you get knocked down you will teleport back.

In short, someone with a bad connection and real lag, can screw up the game for everyone.

erfweiss

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Cold Black Eyes

W/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Viruzzz
EDIT: to the person above me (erfweiss) normally in a racing game people lag too, but you can drive on your own hardware and transmit your location to the server, here its the opposite, you tell what you're doing, and it doesn't matter what your computer thinks you're doing, if the server says you're stuck behind a rock a mile back, then you are stuck behind a rock a mile back. so even if arenanet is not directly responsible for the lag, their game coding is responsible for the effects that this lag causes
edit2: this wasn't meant offensively by the way
It could be the game coding. I don't know, I haven't logged in to GW in 4 days due to work. It also has a lot to do with network congestion. For example, I ran a traceroute to www.arenanet.com. As you can see below, it's losing packets in the alter.net network.

10 37 ms 37 ms 37 ms 0.so-0-0-3.BR6.DFW9.ALTER.NET [204.255.173.1]
11 38 ms 37 ms 37 ms 0.so-3-3-0.XT1.DFW9.ALTER.NET [152.63.99.1]
12 100 ms 75 ms 75 ms 0.so-5-0-0.XL1.TCO4.ALTER.NET [152.63.32.65]
13 75 ms 75 ms 75 ms POS6-0.GW3.TCO4.ALTER.NET [152.63.35.61]
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.

Edit: No offense taken, just showing a different point of view.

Feathermoore Rep

Feathermoore Rep

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Feathermoore Clan

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Viruzzz
Iin any normal racing game you slow down by turning, the tighter turn the more momentum you lose, in GW you can make a 180 degree turn and keep the momentum. this means that with no lag you can cut the best line through the track always.
Just because i read this im going to comment. Now first this isnt a normal racing game. Second do you actually know why you slow down when you turn? The reason you slow down during a turn is because of friction which to some degree racing games take into account in their physics engines. The engine that this mini-game runs on, cannot be as complex as those of stand alone racing games. It would take to long to develop. This mini-game is not meant to duplicate other racing engines. In fact its almost similar to Mario Kart, but this version calculates less side ways forces as opposed to momentum due to changes in terrain. It will not be perfect, it probably is flawed, coming from an engine that the z-axis works improperly on, but for the most part it works and its fun.

Its definately refreshing to see a new game type in GW.

And how the the engine interupts packet-loss does have an effect on the game. It sucks. So i suppose its a little bit of everyones fault.

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

Also helps if you are able to enter with a bunch of guildies/alliance members. ;p

namkey

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

As of this moment, I am ranked #11, #12, #21, #23, #29, #46, #70, #92

ColaManiac

ColaManiac

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

DISNEYLAND!

R/Mo

jey! i made it to the top 100 also!... =^.^=
with 467k points... but not sure if can stay there...
well i was happy when i finaly lost after 17 cons victories... :P

Dark Interception

Dark Interception

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

im number 7 atm got 2 superbeetles and no kd's and a 12 consec

amish lifeguard

amish lifeguard

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

It's Not Pediofilia If The Kids [dead]

so the more you get consec. the more points you get? i thought it was just your speed each race!

Feathermoore Rep

Feathermoore Rep

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Feathermoore Clan

R/Mo

Man at least share some tips namekey. I dont need to get top 10, i'd be happy with like 99.

And no you dont get points for consecutive wins. Unless they changed something from when i got my 12 streak, because my points didnt increase.

Dark Interception

Dark Interception

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

No you dont, my 12 consec didn have to do anything with my score.

btw .. yes getting a top 100 score is based on luck pretty much .. they key is to get a small lead from the beginning so you wont get in all the ram mania then hope for a good first ? box then race of never to be heard from again .. and off course 2 super roller beetles.

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

~450k is getting a perfect start and echo super, so you'll need 2x the combo for the 460k+ scores. I've had lots of people go to crates and sit on them trying to get the combo from the start, and those people are the ones who tend to be in the top 100 already.

amish lifeguard

amish lifeguard

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

It's Not Pediofilia If The Kids [dead]

yea, i tried that kamikaze, for 3 hours! got a 3x super beetle, but camped the boxes too long. you gotta get echo then super right away to get it good.

Tucks

Tucks

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

It is kinda ridiculous that you need super beetles + no-one attacking you to score top 100. They might as well just given us a random prize draw.

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

best i got was 450 cus i got 2 supers but some biatch kept knocking me over :/

ericdanie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Rio de Janeiro - Brazil

Tribo dos Reis [TdR]

R/

I love the concept, but current GW network coding does not support a quick-responses minigame.

Dark Interception

Dark Interception

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by KamikazeChicken
~450k is getting a perfect start and echo super, so you'll need 2x the combo for the 460k+ scores. I've had lots of people go to crates and sit on them trying to get the combo from the start, and those people are the ones who tend to be in the top 100 already.
no thats not really true .. i got a 450k score with 1 super and a 470 with 2 supers .. not echoing it.

Spidey

Spidey

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

It's a fun mini-game. It can be brutal, but then that makes it more fun. I get hit with the rubberbanding here and there, it's just part of online gaming. I haven't made the top 100 and probably never will, but I've enjoyed playing, gaining tokens and gamer points. At least getting the points doesn't depend on your team, like the snowball arena, all you have to do is finish the race to get points and tokens.

The only suggestion I would have would be that they limit activation on a box a single time. That would put a stop the box campers.

onerabbit

onerabbit

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Thanks to all the guru [mods]

To make it even more Fun, just stand on the boxes and keep kncoknig dwn one person..i did it, was there for the whole race knocking him down, was sooo funny..bet he was pissed off

Zehnchu

Zehnchu

Popcorn Fetish

Join Date: Dec 2005

[GODS]

Mo/Me

There is a flaw in the record keeping, I know this will sound negative and there probably isn’t a way to fix it but right now the top 100 is really just the top 70 that means there are 30 people who should be on this but are not.

There shouldn’t be duplicate entries on the records, it should be just one listing. If that person bests their personal best time or best time then they should move up in ranking not be added to the list again moving someone who did make it off the list.

Just Another Dude

Just Another Dude

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by namkey
As of this moment, I am ranked #11, #12, #21, #23, #29, #46, #70, #92

Why don't you just share and not be so selfish? I mean, wow, I'm sure you've never learned anything from someone else's posts here... nobody has ever revealed a secret that benefits you and you took... Maybe everyone should stop talking, and stop posting tips, and just brag?

raven214

raven214

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

R/

I just got my own personal best... 445k .... in all the races I've done, I've only seen one person I can remember that got over 450k.

The fact that people can have multiple listings in the top 100 is pure crap too, unless further down listings are being recorded for reward purposes and just aren't being displayed.

Sprites

Sprites

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

royaume de la lumi??re :D

LOGW

E/Me

460 , could've been higher if anet didn't rollback me one screen before :d

Draikin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sprites
460 , could've been higher if anet didn't rollback me one screen before :d
That happened to me several times too just when I was going for a >460k score, it usually happens when you go down the two bridges and exit on the beach. At one point I was almost the 6th checkpoint and the other moment I find myself back at the exit of the two bridges. Really frustrating when that happens...

Hengis

Hengis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

London

Better Than Life (BTL)

R/

My best of the day was 457K after trying for about five hours. I can win multiple races in a row but not get anywhere near the high scores. I initially thought that getting on the high score table was down to pure luck, but seeing how many people have multiple places in the top 100, there has to be more to it than just luck. I wish I knew what it was.

Having no luck getting a pig either LOL.. 220 tries so far - no piggy :-(

Guldur

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/

Well, i never get green ping, mine has always been yellow and Its so frustrating the way i keep teleporting back its not even fun anymore .

My ping never was an issue with pvp or pve, but in this mini game its just impossible to be competitive. I have no idea where the opponents are, i miss all the rams and get rammed out of nowhere.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

448K is my best, 444K is my second best. Yesterday I was doing pretty good and placed most of the time, tonight it's awful.

//RogueNine

//RogueNine

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Rogue Squadron

E/Me

I can easily hit 455+ with no supers and no echos.. So far my best is 471890 with 2 supers no echos.

Zonzai

Zonzai

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

E/

I like the race mini-game but I can't play it all.

Apparently my connection sucks this weekend. My usual ping average seems to be over 1.2k. That's just insane! I've never had such bad lag before, anywhere... doing anything.

I think I'll go play something that I can get better pings on (i.e. every other game I have ever played).

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

I zoned into the Races area, and went to start one, and I lagged like all get out so I thought something along the lines of a Profane Word coupled with the word "This" and never went back to the arenas..

Hengis

Hengis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

London

Better Than Life (BTL)

R/

Well, the more I played this, the more I went back to my original thoughts that getting onto the leader board really is nothing more than luck.

Yes, you need to have some basic skill, but no amount of skill will compensate for not getting the right power-ups, or for getting ganked at exactly the wrong time.

You need:

A clean start - i.e. not getting targeted by other players.
A super-bettle or an echo in the first box (in the tunnel).
The corresponding opposite in the second or third box (in the water).
OR - The echo and the super-beetle together in the water.
To be away from the boxes in the water and have both the echo and the super-beetle at around 41-42 seconds.
Not to get targeted by other players for the remainder of the race.
No lag or rubber-banding during the whole race.
One more piece of luck (preferably another super-beetle in one of the boxes towards the end of the race).

After playing for around 12 hours over the weekend, I got almost all of these on my best run and scored around 469K, not quite enough for a top 100 place, but didn't get the last piece of luck needed.

Still, I gained around 1300 gamer points in total, and the corresponding amount of tokens LOL.

Although I really did enjoy the event, I would hope that any future mini-game, especially one that gives a prize for the best scores, would be based on skill alone and not an enormous element of pure luck.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

My bestest run was:
-zero interaction of other players!
-no lags, no stops, no knockdowns!
-echo+super at cave, immediately!
-another super at cows (my jaw dropped)
-another echo at big water (stopped breathing)
-my mistake could have been not touching any more boxes after 5th gate

And the result was mere 465k
I estimate the chance for such a run to be 1 in 5000 or more.
I can't imagine how incredibly lucky must be a 470K++ run that makes top100