Worst. Event. Ever.

Takuna

Takuna

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

I'm with Oblivion on this. If people wanted to show that they were here during the event, they can use the mask, which, unlike Oblivion, I do happen to like. But the piggy was to show how lucky you were, also. Did EVERYONE get the max lucky title last year? I don't think so. The fact that I can say "I got my piggy on my 57th try!" made me feel happy and fairly lucky. Now I won't be able to say that, because everyone else will reply, "So? We didn't do anything and we still got our! Hahaha, sucker, noob."

See the problem? He's not saying that he doesn't want anyone to have them because he's selfish, it's because it USED to be a sign of either A) Luck or B) Alot of time... Both of which are worth showing off.

Oblivion Odyssey

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

King Of Slaying [Leader]

W/Mo

Quote:
If you want to scream "It's my opinion" when someone disagree with you, why did you bother to share it?
I shout that when people insult me personally for something which is merely my own opinion.


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lol poor guy is just tiffed, cause there is no Uberl337 item for him to farm and scam newbs with

and Pigs are still rare, once every 12 years. That Spells RARE!
You do not have a CLUE what you are talking about. You think I wanted to scam people by selling my "uber 1337" pig that was only ever worth 20k??? You think these things are rare?????? When every single person in the game will get one from several different finales??? You do not have a clue.

Quote:
I'm with Oblivion on this. If people wanted to show that they were here during the event, they can use the mask, which, unlike Oblivion, I do happen to like. But the piggy was to show how lucky you were, also. Did EVERYONE get the max lucky title last year? I don't think so. The fact that I can say "I got my piggy on my 57th try!" made me feel happy and fairly lucky. Now I won't be able to say that, because everyone else will reply, "So? We didn't do anything and we still got our! Hahaha, sucker, noob."

See the problem? He's not saying that he doesn't want anyone to have them because he's selfish, it's because it USED to be a sign of either A) Luck or B) Alot of time... Both of which are worth showing off.
THANK YOU, someone who understands what I'm saying! /kneel

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oblivion Odyssey
Basically we're seeing people who didn't get a pig being happy and saying the event was great. Just because you can't see it from other people's point of views doesnt mean you're right.
And what's wrong with thinking the event was great? It seems that you can't handle people having a different opinion than you yet you're telling everyone that you're entitled to your own.

You did have some valid complaints but your whole post was negative. It seemed nitpicky rather than actually pointing out flaws (e.q. your bashing of the mask was very nitpicky)

Basically you came off as whiney. Yes, I agreed with some of your points but I dont agree with your tone and attitude.

freeverse

freeverse

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Ladies Rhythm and Movement Club [MOVE]

Having spent a couple hours farming the chef items and tokens, I am frustrated by only getting a measly handful of lunar tokens while everyone in my district freeloads a free mini pig. The mini pig reward I recieved for getting tokens was supposed to be something I earned. Now everyone has one. I suggest a boycott of chef item farming! Let those who want mini pigs work for them themselves. I know many of those who spent the time and effort to get items for this event are also those who spend time on forums. Join me in the boycott! No more freeloaders!

explodemyheart

explodemyheart

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Indiana

Gui1d War스 P01ic트 [Pr으]

Mo/

Whenever the OP says anything, it's his opinion. But if anybody says anything that counters him, it's wrong. Practice what you preach?

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by freeverse
Having spent a couple hours farming the chef items and tokens, I am frustrated by only getting a measly handful of lunar tokens while everyone in my district freeloads a free mini pig. The mini pig reward I recieved for getting tokens was supposed to be something I earned. Now everyone has one.
This is exactly how I feel except that I didnt even get a mini pig for all my efforts. I was in a district full of freeloaders while I wasted my ingrediants.

Oblivion Odyssey

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

King Of Slaying [Leader]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by explodemyheart
Whenever the OP says anything, it's his opinion. But if anybody says anything that counters him, it's wrong. Practice what you preach?
No, when someone disagrees with me it's completely fine. When someone insults me for my opinions like you do I get pissed, and fair enough.

Quote:
And what's wrong with thinking the event was great? It seems that you can't handle people having a different opinion than you yet you're telling everyone that you're entitled to your own.

You did have some valid complaints but your whole post was negative. It seemed nitpicky rather than actually pointing out flaws (e.q. your bashing of the mask was very nitpicky)

Basically you came off as whiney. Yes, I agreed with some of your points but I dont agree with your tone and attitude.
Yes I know my post was negative, you're right, that's how I felt. I did have positives though, such as rollerbeetle being quite fun and sugary drinks. Again though insulting me instead of my ideas, I just don't like it.

explodemyheart

explodemyheart

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Indiana

Gui1d War스 P01ic트 [Pr으]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oblivion Odyssey
No, when someone disagrees with me it's completely fine. When someone insults me for my opinions like you do I get pissed, and fair enough.
Quit whining about insults. I could be much worse. If you think that laughing at a laughable statement and telling you you're taking things too seriously is heinous, then my original statement stands. And as far as it goes, I see others who haven't insulted you in the slightest that you're still getting pissy with, so don't give me that bull.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

I'm extremely tempted to close this, because of the level of aggressive nonsense going on. There is some discussion, so I'll leave it for now.

Keep this civil in the discussion of problems with the event (a legitimate topic), or I will be happy to make things quiet down.

TideSwayer

TideSwayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

We Farm Your [?????????s]

As far as I'm concerned, a new minipet (as common as it is), and an awesome minigame like rollerbeetle racing made this event worthwhile. Good enough for me. The hat is cool too (although IMO not in its default color as much as it is dyed in other colors).


No hate for ANet coming from me on this one. Sorry. I'm having fun this weekend.

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by freeverse
Having spent a couple hours farming the chef items and tokens, I am frustrated by only getting a measly handful of lunar tokens while everyone in my district freeloads a free mini pig. The mini pig reward I recieved for getting tokens was supposed to be something I earned. Now everyone has one. I suggest a boycott of chef item farming! Let those who want mini pigs work for them themselves. I know many of those who spent the time and effort to get items for this event are also those who spend time on forums. Join me in the boycott! No more freeloaders!
Think of it this way: If you didn't give the items you farmed to the chefs, you and people in your district might not have got the pig. You did it for yourself. If other people have got some benefit from what you did, isn't that good?

Besides, I don't think those who have got enough pig would participate in the finale again just so he can get the tokens. If they would participate, they'd either:

1. afk so that they might get a pig again,
or,
2. give items to chefs because he still has some leftovers and don't feel like being selfish, or he wants to make sure that he gets another pig.

That's all. Seriously, what's wrong with sharing the happiness anyway?

Iscana

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Well personally I also have a few things to admit. I had hoped we got some minigames at the broadway (or something) to max the title Lucky, but I have not seen anything that could give point to this title. As Anet said, when it goes open, there will be chance to max your title, but the only time I knew I could do this was last years New Years event and another 1 weekend which I missed, so basicly no livers do have this title maxed. Maybe it will come this weekend or monday, but I'm not sure.

Althought I do not have a minipig myself (I'm just always unlucky, even with drops) I agree that it would have been better not to give them away for free, only the mask, maybe another items but not the pet.

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

Maybe this thread SHOULD be closed. It started out on such an inflammatory tone (just look at the title) what else could you expect other than flames?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacheelma
Think of it this way: If you didn't give the items you farmed to the chefs, you and people in your district might not have got the pig. You did it for yourself. If other people have got some benefit from what you did, isn't that good?
I can understand community spirit. But how about some guarantee that the person who farmed all the stuff for one dish at least gets a pig? I sure didnt. Lousy freeloading district...

R_Boy

R_Boy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

El Paso, TX

E/Mo

Wow, I do see a lot of people getting all worked up over this thread and how great or sorry the "festival" was. It is called an opinion for a reason. And here is mine....I think this festival sucked....Big Time.

For one, where were all the exciting games and entertainment value that we got from all the other festivals and events? You walk out expecting to be some ticket game or something and there is just some guy that set up a catapult that you can spend 10g to watch the pig fly throught he air. Oh my god, I saw that and just left the area all together. I admit some people got a kick out of and thought it was funny, but that humor runs out in a very quick time frame.

Second, the fortunes. I realize people spent lots of time playing S/P/C for those fortunes, or exchanged countless tokens to get them to just come up empty handed. Thats just the name of the game and if people wanted to spend that amount of gold to do that then that is their business. I do admit that they could have made the fortunes more enjoyable with the rewards from them. I mean, blessings and curses, who cares. I just walked out of a town, opened all the fortunes up and colected what hit the ground and what I collected I can't use for anything. Worthless if you ask me.

Third, the pig. Gotta be the only good reward from a fortune, if you were lucky. But to have everyone recieve one for free at the ending event is just stupid. I know some people were happy to get them, but that just took all the value of having one away. If you do this with the pig, why not do it with every mini pet so they all can be on an even playing field.

Forth and finally, Rollerbeetle. I have to say this game was pretty fun, FOR THE FIRST FEW TIMES I RACED. After that I was bored and even more so after I saw the top 100 places. I knew I would have to play and place in the top 3 spots for the whole weekend non-stop just to have a shot, and I don't know about everyone else but I have better things to do. Then they say there is a special reward to those that do place in the top 100 spots. Probably will be a mini pig, but only one can hope that the prize is a mini beetle or something. Guess we'll just have to wait on that one. All in all I only liked this game for a very short time until it became boring and unadventful.

All in all I would have to say that I wasn't very pleased with this event and think that the creaters could have put in a little bit more effort to make it more exciting and entertaining for everyone instead of just a few.

But then again, thats just my opinion.

Oh, and the masks are ok, but certainly not the best. Even if they are traditional.

freeverse

freeverse

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Ladies Rhythm and Movement Club [MOVE]

Well, now I have two pigs. Anyone want to buy one? No? Then I spent two hours for a second pig I won't use anymore.

DarkGanni

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

E/

My only disappointment in this event is the lack of the pig chance, I opened 200 "Fortunes" and not a single pig. However on the rest I can't complain

Cold Hearted Zero

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Gotass Community [gA]

all u think of is items :S maybe try and spend some time with friends doing quests even tho they r easy maybe kill some foes to get those items with friends? so what u got more then 1 pig... give it to a guilde or a friend who couldnt be at the event? ive gotten 3 pigs so far and given away 2. stop being so freaking gold crazy o_O

kidkid

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Vancouver

I Seek HK

Mo/

I think whoever post this topic is childish and selfish, GG for you, NEW YEAR is supposed to be happy, so i don't see anything wrong with this event, everyone gets prizes and hats. Don't blame Anet, they are doing a good job. Thanx Anet.

korcan

korcan

noobalicious

Join Date: Jun 2006

From my experiences, and the events I have attended, there has always been an unknown aspect to all the festivals. Whether that unknown pertains to certain items that you need to farm, to newly introduced items that are required for the finale.
Anet doesn't tip their hat to what these items will be used for and what their potential after event in-game values will be. If you decide to take the time to farm these items thinking that the pay-off will amount to some type of "status symbol" in-game, you will always be disappointed. Investing time into the game during a festival with the intent of obtaining some type of "status symbol" will most always end in disappointment. Its a gamble and sometimes it pays-off and sometimes it doesn't.
The festivals are meant to be fun. If you go into a festival with any other intentions, you're more then likely to come away disappointed.

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

The items we got were great, I'm happy everyone was able to get a pig. I just wish the Celestial Pigs coming would have been..less boring.

Takuna

Takuna

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by explodemyheart
If you think the fact that everybody gets an opportunity to get an item a fiasco, then I feel sorry for you and I suggest maybe stepping outside for awhile, because you're taking the internets far to seriously.

There were lots of people who opened up hundreds of fortunes and didn't get a pig. I'm sure many of those people are pleased now that they were able to get one. It's nobody's fault but your own that you wasted time trying to get a pig from a lunar fortune.

So you don't have an item that you can sell for lots of money and you can't use the mini pig for a status symbol. Oh well, you'll get over it.
Ok, firstly, the first paragraph is he age-old insult disguised as good advice where you tell the other person that they play the computer too much... He probably doesn't, you know. Even if he did, it's none of your bussiness, leave him alone.

Second paragraph, I have to strongly disagree. If I had opened hundreds of fortunes for this pig and then just gotten it anyway, I WOULD NOT be thinking, "Oh, I got a pig, just what I was after, I'm glad I got this pig because I really liked it." I would be saying something along the lines of, "I spent one heck of alot of time to get these tickets and it turns out I didn't have to? And now EVERYONE has one?!? What a freaking waste!"

Third paragraph, I didn't even think about selling my pig. And I got one before they all fell from the sky into everyone's bags.

mr master

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Lords of foresaken chaos[officer]

W/Mo

I agree with everything you just said, great post.

Edge Martinez

Edge Martinez

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

NC

DKL

I respect the OP's opinion, however I had fun with this thing. I wasn't really looking to get anything handed to me, and the fireworks were a decent bonus. The fact that they're handing out a hat is great, and maybe even a pig... wonderful. It was a great event IMO. I didn't win any beetle races and didn't make the top ten, but I always tried. What's the point of not attacking people so we get better scores? I attacked those guys first.

Oblivion Odyssey

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

King Of Slaying [Leader]

W/Mo

Hey some well thought through posts! /cheer!

I won't ask for this to be closed then, personally I think it's really sad insulting someone over their opinions on a computer game.

Anet do a FANTASTIC job of running this game, but I tihnk they got it wrong with this event, in particualr the pig. Thanks to those who posted thoughtfully (those who agreed with me and those who didnt), you make it worth putting up with all the other bs.

Whoever posted about questing with your friends (its not worth looking back to quote it), you can adventure with your friends at any time and do anything in this game, and every single person in the game will get a mini pig if they are playing regularily, so there's no one to give my extra pigs to.

mr master

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Lords of foresaken chaos[officer]

W/Mo

I have respect for Anet. They have made mistakes with festivals, imo but I'm sure there is a lot of work put into them and they can't make everyone happy.

sixdartbart

sixdartbart

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Peace Machine GRRR [DiE]

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Takuna
I got one before they all fell from the sky into everyone's bags.
Ahhh so you got one during the coding glitch that was causing them too spawn to often from fortunes? lol

I will never understand why so many people do nothing but piss and moan about "FREE" events that Anet puts the time effort and money into putting on for us.
They have no requirements to do any of these events but for every one they do there is always this garbage about "how much time I wasted blah blah blah" think about how dumb "time wasted" sounds when your talking about sitting on your arse playing a video game!

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Seriously, this whole mini-pig thing people are complaining about has all come down to this: I worked hard to get the pig and I should be recognized as such.

You know what? Get over it. Even if there's no pig-giveaway at each finale, do you really believe that everyone will think that you've opened a million of Lunar Fortune before you got the pig?

I, for one, won't. Why? Because you can also buy a pig from other people, at various prices (some even lower than the price you might have to pay had you chose to open the fortune), and then lie about how you've opened only 2 fortune and got it (I'm so l33t lucky!). Seriously, does that make any different?

All in all, if you can buy an item, you won't be able to "show-off" that item as anything but "I got it somehow", no matter how expensive it is. (Ebay, anyone?)

Oblivion Odyssey

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

King Of Slaying [Leader]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by sixdartbart
Ahhh so you got one during the coding glitch that was causing them too spawn to often from fortunes? lol

I will never understand why so many people do nothing but piss and moan about "FREE" events that Anet puts the time effort and money into putting on for us.
They have no requirements to do any of these events but for every one they do there is always this garbage about "how much time I wasted blah blah blah" think about how dumb "time wasted" sounds when your talking about sitting on your arse playing a video game!
Oh god please lets not get into the "you're spending your time playing a video game" argument, by that definition every single complaint posted on these forums is useless. Anet does a fantastic job, I respect them enormously, however imo they got it wrong with this festival. I think it's great that Anet put their time into festivals but let's not kid ourselves they do it for the benefit of keeping people playing the game as well, a festival breaks monotony nicely.


As to the above post, I was wondering when the ebay argument would pop up, it always does no matter how unrelevant it is The pig thing comes down to the fact people spent time and effort getting one only to have them fall from the sky free-for-all. Fair enough? I don't care about status symbols at all.

sixdartbart

sixdartbart

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Peace Machine GRRR [DiE]

W/N

And I am one of the people who spent a large amount of time getting and opening those (800 to be exact) and didn't get a pig because I didn't open them when they were popping up all the time.
I really don't care about the pig one way or another I got alot of gold from the fortunes and was mostly doing R/P/S for the sweet tooth title.

I'm not saying anything about how much time anyone spends doing whatever they want to do but to come here and complain about Anet wasted my time when you are the one who decided to do whatever it was you are bitching about is just silly to me.

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oblivion Odyssey
As to the above post, I was wondering when the ebay argument would pop up, it always does no matter how unrelevant it is The pig thing comes down to the fact people spent time and effort getting one only to have them fall from the sky free-for-all. Fair enough? I don't care about status symbols at all.
And then why did you spend time and effort for it? So that you can get it? Ok. Then what's wrong with it falling down from the sky later? Did you lose yours? No. You may feel like you've wasted your time. But you chose to do it yourself. And you got it in the end as well. Why complaining?

Oblivion Odyssey

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

King Of Slaying [Leader]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by sixdartbart
I'm not saying anything about how much time anyone spends doing whatever they want to do but to come here and complain about Anet wasted my time when you are the one who decided to do whatever it was you are bitching about is just silly to me.
I beg to differ please reread your previous post Of course I choose what I do but I still dont appreciate my time was wasted by a stupid move of pigs falling from the sky. Pigs do fly.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacheelma
And then why did you spend time and effort for it? So that you can get it? Ok. Then what's wrong with it falling down from the sky later? Did you lose yours? No. You may feel like you've wasted your time. But you chose to do it yourself. And you got it in the end as well. Why complaining?
Quote:
Originally Posted by sixdartbart
And again how was your time wasted by this? you wanted a pig apparently,you got a pig and OMG now more people have them.
As Cacheelma asked "did you lose yours"
Well seeing as you asked for an answer ive given 10 times I'll tell you again, I am annoyed because people got the pig for doing nothing whereas many people spent hours earning one, and there is no difference between either outcome, getting one falling from the sky or earning one, I don't really understand what me choosing to do it has to do with this argument, everything we do in this game is what we chose to do, that doesn't mean our time can't be wasted by a silly move. I may as well have lost mine. Obviously to a far greater scale, imagine everybody got free FoW armor... would the people who had already earned theirs be thrilled?

sixdartbart

sixdartbart

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Peace Machine GRRR [DiE]

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oblivion Odyssey
I still dont appreciate my time was wasted by a stupid move of pigs falling from the sky. Pigs do fly.
And again how was your time wasted by this? you wanted a pig apparently,you got a pig and OMG now more people have them.
As Cacheelma asked "did you lose yours"

Mournblade

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

The festivals are for FUN. If you participate in the hopes of making money then you run the risk of being disappointed. I'm sorry some of you were disappointed.

Mwen

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Order of the Eternal Blade

IMO: The problem with the pigs was the coding error that allowed you to get more out of the bags in the first few hours. I believe that sort of made folks feel like, well, if I want to get one, I better buy one *right now* from one of the folks who opened fortunes and got multiple pigs, 'cause the drop rate has decreased and I probably won't get another. I do feel really sorry for the folks who paid big money in the beginning. You can call them fools and such, but it's just human nature to get caught up in the event with everything swirling.

That said, I really did like the event. Two sticky points: It took me a while to realize that opening the fortunes really doesn't give you anything all that wonderful. There's no need to farm tokens on all characters. Also, as stated here, the pig shouldn't have been included in the fortunes at all, really.

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

If you want the pig for yourself, why would you care about how other people get theirs?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oblivion Odyssey
I am annoyed because people got the pig for doing nothing whereas many people spent hours earning one, and there is no difference between either outcome, getting one falling from the sky or earning one,
Whatever happened to your noble "I don't care about status symbols at all."?

Lamont Shadow

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

i don't think people are really angry about the time, money, or what they did or didn't get

I think what upsets people is that Anet is responsible for managing the economy in the world they created and in this case they screwed up big time.

First they introduce an item (at apparently a moderately high drop rate), then they vastly limit its availability by reducing the drop rate or cutting it off althogether for a time driving up the price - then they dump a glut on the market tanking the price.

If a real world government had done that it would have caused a major economic disaster.

So i think people are angry because in this case anet behaved very irresponsibly and by doing so frustrated people. I

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

I did not spend much time in the event (I did one bout of Roller Beetle Racing...before I learned it was rigged), and just leveled my Draenei Shaman in WoW...atleast I didn't miss much.

But EVERYONE IN THIS TOPIC has missed the true problem.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacheelma
Seriously, this whole mini-pig thing people are complaining about has all come down to this: I worked hard to get the pig and I should be recognized as such.
Yes. But it's not the OP's fault. It's ArenaNet's

If ArenaNet had even hinted that there would be a "rare minipet during the finale!" people would have expected the Minature Pig and planned accordingly. Thus, less dissappointment.

ArenaNet has always sucked at weighing risk vs. reward; it's the nature of the game (see the new improved Mallyx the Unyielding)

I believe the true problem is a lack of information from ArenaNet with respect to event. We never did figure out what the Lucky Aura did, right?

Skye Marin

Skye Marin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

E/A

If there was a second minipet given at the finale, there wouldn't be a problem here, really.

Nothing is cool if other people have it. :P

Clone

Clone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

I thought the event was decent. Free pet, free hat, a few random free items, and a bit of free cash. A bit too much grinding or difficulty to coordinate a good feast, but overall good.

You could certianly debate whether the time spent making this could have been better spent making other lasting improvments to the game. Opportunity costs are a very interesting concept, and in the end I probably would have gotten more use out of a weapon mod trader or some other sort of trade improvements. But, this was still good.

stiffler

stiffler

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

South Australia

[ToR]

R/

If the mini pig was just a white mini, not gold, that might have been a slight hint as to its rarety.