Worst. Event. Ever.

All these people raging about the fact that the didn't get enough rewards for bringing in the ingredients! Must you receive a tangible reward for everything you do? what about personal satisfaction that you brought in all the ingredients that you did... or satisfaction that you contributed to the event?

people are too materialistic!

Try farming for hours to get those materials and then being in the first two events that failed. All that work for nothing. See if you get any personal satisfaction from getting nothing and helping nothing.

Funnily enough, I finally got my pig after going to sleep and going AFK.

EDIT: Oh and I dont care that everyone gets the same reward. I'd just like a guarantee that I get something for effort I put in. I dont mind that AFK'ers get the same reward I do.

So do you believe that if you go to school each day and do nothing in class that you should get rewarded the same as someone who studies hard and get's A's just because you're in the same class.....

Like it or not this game (like real life) has divides used to separate players and distingush feats from each other. Titles/mini-pets/dances etc.
Everyone wants to be special but special shouldn't come for free...

The problem is that afk'ers have the same rewards as people who spent 10 hrs yesterday playing and farming items.

If I was in films I'd be tempted to say "What's my motivation?" right about now.

If they are intelligent, one bad business choice wont kill them. If they keep making the wrong choice....they are not intelligent
And I never heard of intelligent people must be a greedy pig

I'm REALLY getting tired of seeing this bad information going around. A little self testing on something higher than level 2 will DISPROVE it. I tested this on the Isle of the Nameless with 200 Dagger attacks, nothing even close to 100%. Attacking level 2's and such will get criticals ANYWAY. Go attack stuff outside Shing Jea WITHOUT the Lucky Aura and see. Besides, do you really think ANet would give that much of a buff to weapon users and completely snub spellcasters?

Anyway, about the event.
Rollerbettle Racing- Good concept, fairly fun, but a LOT of luck involved, not just in getting skills. but in not going down that spiraling ramp at the end and rubber banding back to the top. >_>

Lucky Hochei- I liked this guy. More bang for your tokens, but takes a bit longer. You get a nice reward for your time though.

Lucky Aura- Please,ANet, tell us what something DOES the next time you give it to us, instead of making us spend the weekend trying to figure out what is does(in vain).

Lunar Fortunes- I loved these. Random item or gold, Lunar Blessing, or getting possessed. It was rather interesting to see my female Elementalist say "As a boy, I spent much time in these lands." Taking over female bodies? I think we all knew Rurik was pretty weird, but...

Fireworks- Meh. Little trinkets like with all the other events. Not great, but not bad, either.

The Finale- This was the only part of the event I really kinda hated. Spending a few hours grinding for the stuff for desert only to find out we only needed one person in the district to have each kinda got me annoyed. The gift bags were fun, and the mask isn't as bad as a lot of people think. I still prefer the Tengu mask and Pumpkin Head, but the Lion will be fun to throw out once in a while. The bad part was the end, where the pig runs around for about 5 minutes for no apparent reason, then vanishes. We all followed him, expecting something, then *poof*. No dramatic warp sequence, no explosions, no celestial bacon, nothing, just vanished.

Overall, while this definitely wasn't my favorite event, it wasn't a disaster by any means. I think part of the disappointment of people came from the fact that Anet's other events had been good, and that got expectations up. However, I can understand why this one wasn't quite as good. Unlike Wintersday and Halloween, which you know are coming and are going to celebrate, I doubt they sat around and planned months ahead of time for an event that coordinated with the Chinese New Year. I don't think any of us expected it until they announced it, either. I mean, an event that doesn't ignore Cantha? Who saw that coming? >_> So the way I look at it, it's an event that we didn't really expect to have. Outside of collecting the drops from obscure places, I didn't really have any big problems with it. Thanks, ANet.

MOAN, MOAN, MOAN, MOAN.

OMG. Seriously. Are you people ever happy?

If you have nothing better to do than complain then go find another game to play.

This event was awesome. ArenaNet staff put what I can only imagine were many, many hours in to the development of the event and the thanks they get are the usual moans from the usual suspects.

Get off your high horses. If you don't have something nice to say then try keep it to yourselves for once

I'll admit, I laughed out loud in my chair for about 5 minutes, after I got the pig everyone had been obsessing about. Then I went and sold it in LA for 20k.
Taking advantange of those who don't know better? Yeah, but thats how the world works.

Now with these new piggies, you won't be able to go into any district any pull out a mini. At first they were a show of wealth, but now anyone, literally can have one.

Now, I did all of the quests, I had some fun with the rock paper scissors, and I had fun with the fireworks, but I didn't obsess over the event, especially the chefs like others did.

I'll admit, the Chefs rewards are beyond lame, but that didn't matter to me, because at the event today I got a cool hat, a minipet, and Its ALL FREE.

Anet doesn't have to do these events, they do it to make you happy, think of the POSITIVE of this event. You don't need to be complaining and obsessing over it like an over-complusive nerd.

I had fun at this event, I spent a couple good hours on it, and a couple on roller beetle racing, it was a GREAT EVENT, perhaps the best for me yet!

To say that its the worst event ever, is to say that you have no respect for the company that made the game, and is providing this on their own time for free!

I really do pity the guy who made this thread, for being such a horrible customer, even though he didn't get everything he wanted, it was still a FREE EVENT, WE DON'T PAY A SUBSCRIPTION TO GET THIS!

So some things happened bad at the event. It was free event and plenty of cool new stuff happened this weekend. Think on the positive.

Get over it.

Cute. I should probably be in awe of your world-weary, too-cool-for-school attitude, but I'm just too busy being naively happy with my little piggie.

Personally, I'd think dumb was being annoyed and unhappy all of the time, for no good reason, you know?

Correction, if ArenaNet wants to keep Guild Wars alive, they do have to do there events. If they didn't do events, the community would get bored, and most likely stop playing. Once enough people stop playing, and tell their friends about how boring the game is, sales will decline. Once this happens, it's just a short path to becoming broke.

So actually, they need to put on these events

Wrong. You paid $50. (or more likely $150.)

Subscriptions are primarily for upkeep costs. Since Guild Wars is instanced (and only one central server), there's significantly low bandwidth, and thus no necessity for a monthly fee.

The event is not free.

Who said I'm unhappy? I'm dissappointed with ArenaNet, but I expect it. You are unhappy (and per your definition, dumb), because you are offended by mere words. I'm perfectly content.

This was totally the worst event ever. Next time I fully expect Anet to give me stock market tips so us thoughtful and intelligent types don't make such a hilarious blunder again. Anet, you hampered my ability to capitalize on the weak-minded (you know, those ones having fun, whatever that is). Us other people believe it's about capitalism and because we believe it that naturally makes it true.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have a meeting with the shareholders to attend to in Marhan's Grotto.

I thought this event was pretty good.

Can't wait for next years!!

Considering his main (and only) point is that this is a terrible event because he screwed himself over to get a minipig, I must agree.


I see there are still a number of idiots that don't understand Arena Net is a business and not paying a subscription fee is part of a business model. Just because we don't pay them a boatload of cash per month doesn't mean they can write us off and make a game with paltry content. No one goes "We arn't paying monthly for Half Life 2, we can't expect them to include rocket launchers" because that's retarded. Guild Wars is a game, Arena Net is a business and their business model is to get people to buy every single one of their expansions which, when released biyearly, would earn them a substantial sum of money. if they keep screwing around and pissing off their customers, their customers will stop buying their games. But, if Arena Net continues to lose the ability to put out games on their self-imposed schedule, I wouldn't count on them doing very well anyway.

I'm with Jet Doc here.

In hindsight, the festival was about the journey, not the destination. More and more I have been realizing that Guild Wars is trying to teach their community ABOUT community, sharing, the esoteric values of having a good time and being good to your fellow man.

I find this admirable in something as simple as a computer game. They're not here to make a quick buck out of their consumers - they're fostering a long term relationship. It's almost the reverse of Western Society.

I salute you Anet, for trying to teach Teh Internets a thing or two about team work and sharing. I am heartened that at least ONE business out there is trying to teach those who leave their brains on the mouse pad something about morals and having a bit of class.

Quoting for irony.

Why is it that the supposed "happy" people are the ones that are flaming the most?

You're really busting for a fight aren't you Zinger. Sorry, not gonna get one out of me.

This thread seems more of a flame war then anything now.

I see few suggestions on how ANet could make this event better next year. Maybe I'm wrong and missed some and if so I'm sorry but here is a start......

RollerBeetle Race

Next Year please give the 1st 2nd and 3rd place more points to the Gamer Title. Or maybe a multiplier to the consecutive winner.

Quests

I liked the quests and found them fun so little to add to them other then maybe one or two more?

Chefs

Maybe 25-50g per item given to the chef and if you give all the items then 500g bonus maybe?



Thats about all I can think of at the moment so if any of you would like to add to it in a more constructive manner I'm sure Anet will listen better if layed down in a non agresive or flamming way.

And to be honest from what I read of the OP I think thats what they might have been trying to do but they was still a little angry so it didnt come out in the right manner.

[QUOTE=Zinger314]Wrong. You paid $50. (or more likely $150.)

Subscriptions are primarily for upkeep costs. Since Guild Wars is instanced (and only one central server), there's significantly low bandwidth, and thus no necessity for a monthly fee.

The event is not free.
QUOTE]

Correct, I paid 150$ over the past 2 years to play and enjoy this game. When all of us bought the game, it included the campaign and all of the new features, however it didn't contain all of the events to come.

Anet does these events to keep us entertained, and happy and hearty customers, and they need to, because I'm not getting any younger and Campaign 4 is yet to be annouced.

I didn't pay 50$ to get these events, these events are more like incentives to keep playing. These are here to keep us playing, and nothing else, the more customers, the more money Anet makes.

I know how GW's low bandwidth servers don't require alot of cash to run, regardless it doesn't mean they NEED to do these events. They CHOOSE to do them because they know if they don't they will lose their customers. While it may cost money to run the event, I didn't pay for it directly, I bought the campaigns and everything else that came with it.

I went to the store last year and bought Factions for 50 dollars, never knowing or expecting this event. And for any Factions only-customer, they would agree with me, not you.

This event is free.

Free = No Cost

No Event = Customers Leave Game

Customers Leave Game = ArenaNet Makes Less Money In Future Expansions

ArenaNet Makes Less Money In Future Expansions = Cost

Therefore, if Free = ~Cost...

Free ~ No(No Event)

Free = ~(Event)

Not Free = Event

Transverse logic.

To put my 2c

These are free bonus events. What you paid for was the original chapter content. Nowhere in the T&Cs of the sale did Anet promise free content such as the events. They do it as part of their business model to keep the game fresh and sustain interest.

That doesn't change the fact that nobody has a right to demand these events and nobody has to pay extra for them. Therefore they are free.

If you don't like them, don't participate. If you do, enjoy them

If no one ever gave criticism, things would almost never change. Without criticism, it is very hard to know what needs improvement. Criticism is as much a part of life as praise.

If anyone isn't happy here they should leave and play the other online rpg games with monthly fees. Enjoy how awesome it is to pay monthly fees and see little to no events like these. Also they'd get a taste of the real letdowns and grinding that some people claim Guild Wars has.

well back on topic...

seems to me that the OP is upset to have spent 60k to reach his goal(owning a pig), and that he has reached, so the 60k wasnt wasted

Oblivion, you were bent on getting that pig and you got it, be happy. Unlike you, I on the other hand was willing to wait after the event ends and wait for the price to go down. So you got your pig before me, but I got it for a much lesser price, that of being AFK in a complete event district .

EDIT : All good MMOs have monthly fees (sigh)... *clicks GW.exe on desktop*

There's a difference between constructive criticism and plain outright bitching and raging.

Some people just can't handle being told to pull their heads in. If you're going to argue with constructive criticism, fine. If you're going call a person's mother out, it's not.

Welcome to my world of brutal honesty. I'm sick of pussyfooting round the "anonymity" of the internet. (Curse, that's not directed at you - you have a point. It's directed at the people spoiling for a fight and pushing their agendas)

I recommend you don't click this link if you don't like World of Warcraft. They even have Veteran's Day!

Also, SerenitySilverstar, I'm not trying to pick an argument with you; you do a good job of that yourself.

To be competely honest, this event was "meh" for me. I thought the beetle racing was fantastic and should be kept. However, It was creative.

Now for the Pig flaming.. To be honest I had around 280 fortunes and didnt get a single pig. YET other people open 30ish fortunes and get a pig. The reason they put the Pigs at the end is because the fortune opening is completely random and.. rare to say the least. It would have been truely UNFAIR if they didnt give pigs at the finale. AND for you people who are mad because you bought a pig from someone previously, well you are just dumb. Buying event items (especially rare ones such as these) before the event is over isn't bright as they tend to decrease in price when more people get them making them the least amount directly after the event.

So if you lost money on this event, its because you screwed up, not Anet.
Also.. Sai of Winter's avatar is amazing

Man that is just pathetic seriously it is. You're telling me to get a life on a forum dedicated to a computer game that you obviously play about and care about as well? By your definition every complaint here means the person making it doesn't have a life? Shame on you.

Now this is sheer stupidity, firstly when did I ever say I bought a pig for 30k? You're completely missing the point of this discussion and would be well advised to shut up.


To all those saying we must not criticise anything I challenge you to get through life without criticising anything. Criticism is all about opinion and discussion, and it really is the only way to change something you want changed. I'm so sick of this you can't criticise Anet crap. I bet they even want criticism because it is THE ONLY WAY to forward a game and to learn from player's opinions.


So many people here are missing the point completely, but at least I've created a spirited debate, which is what I want. I just need to learn to ignore the complete bs some people are saying.

Pure rubbish, this game will go NOWHERE if there is not criticism, if these forums were filled with people like you claiming Anet are untouchable and ever so righteous and everything they touch turn to gold then there would be no improvement. Get off YOUR high horse.

You should've stopped at Free =~Cost because your logic sucks there on out.

There are two sides to this. People who like to make money off of festivals are mad because there really isn't much to this except random silliness and the occasional sweet for the title. IE, the well-off, the rich, and for the most part the people who like visiting forums the most.

On the other side, we have the player who never even thinks of the lucrative side of festivals, and is just here to have fun. This was HIS festival. Wintersday was ripe with moneymaking opportunities (and ways to take advantage of the "fun only" players); imo, we should let these players have their fun every now and then, and not worry about making hundreds of plat every holiday.

Now, the main problem I have with this event was the fact that fortunes dropped pigs AT ALL. They should have never done that; that would have let all the rich people know right away that they were just for fun, and EVERYONE would have just gotten a nice surprise of a mini piggy at the festival end. Would have made for a nice ending I think.

So, if anyone from ANet reads this: in the future, if you're going to give us a common but really nice present other than a mask at a festival, please don't do the tantalizing thing by making it show up in rare circumstances beforehand. It just leads to price hiking, followed by a crash, which can really hurt some players' fortunes and make people mad.

Who cares about the gamer points... At least they're giving you some. Even if it is a stupidly small amount.

Personally i'd rather they spent more time altering the pathetic excuse for an Attributes bar and the abysmal 'improvement' to the Templates menu.

Seeing as how people who did spend all that time on a mini-pig kind of got gyped out of the time spent since they could have gone ingredient farming instead, the least A-net could do is let players sell the fireworks they got out of Lunar Fortunes at the merchant.

Overall I was happy with the event except a couple minor things. I fail to see though any of the issues the author of the thread specified. I took 4 characters thru all the quests to get tokens and did the bags and got like 6 gold pigs without even having to buy anything off anyone. The rockets and such are just plain fun which is what a festival is about. festivals are not about getting items (example peppermint candy canes) and getting all rich off them.

Now the issue I did have. For the end finale they should have made it so that not everyone got a mini pig if the chefs made all their dishes. It should have been based off those who handed in items got rewarded since afkers and leechers did nothing. If you handed in enough for one to four chef course you get a mini pig. If you did all 5 courses something better like a mini pet that looked like the celestial pig or something that just establishes that you worked and got all ingredients.

My rating of festival is 7 out of 10.

was still fun though and I have to say it gave my guild something to do for farming ingredients.

i'm still wondering if there was a glitch

i can't believe Anet would release a gold pet that seemed to spawn quite a bit, then completely or almost completely withdraw it and then dump a bunch on the market

I have also noticed there was no drink that turned us into something but that we became pigs if no meals were made.

Also, the pigs had a special graphics when you found one in a fortune

so here is what it think happened -

instead of pigs in fortunes we were supposed to get a drink that turned us into pigs - like the candy corn and elf tonics (initially pigs seemed to spawn about as often as cany dorn and elf tonics did)- and the pigs were to be given out at the end - but a glitch made fortunes give pigs instead.

They caught it and withdrew the pigs - which drove up the price.- but weren't able to put the tonic or whatever it was back in.

when people complained and prices skyrocketed, they put back the pigs in fortunes for a while last night - afterall, what did it matter since they were going to be given out at the end anyway, to get he price back down - and that is why fortunes were suddenly giving pigs again now and then.

In the end , i don't think anet really meant to play fast and loose with the economy - i have never seen them do something quite like that before.

I think it was just a glitch or programing error that released pigs in fortunes that were supposed to be released only at the end festival.

Hey - mistakes happen - but a little communication would be nice if that is what really happened.

In any case, if it was a glitch, anet, please let us know and then we can move on

I agree with some points made in this thread. Rollerbeetle race is nice. But rewards for quests could be better and there could be more quests. Also chefs could give much better rewards for all that hard farming. 1 token per ingredient is laughable. Rewards themselves are useless (IMHO), but mask and pig are nice.
Festival in whole I think came out OK, I would rate it at 6/10

I'd rather have no event, then a boring finale to an event, thanks. But see I'm not going to bow down to them, because I don't have to pay for it. If I didn't have it, it wouldn't bother me either way. Thing is, they have the power to do a much better finale as they've shown us in the past and this time I don't know what went wrong. It seems like they keep going downhill in my eyes..as a company, I've yet to see something they bring out in the past 2 months be amazing. I know they can I'm just waiting.

Well thats your opinion, I actually had alot of fun in the event and so did many other people. With a thread like this, who knows if Anet with bother with another event....

It's a FESTIVAL - A time to play and have a bit of fun! It's not about making money & getting rich, which seems to be your main concern with this whole post. (Crappy gold rewards? Hey, 100g is 100g!). As it turns out, they probably should not have given min-pigs out as rewards of the fortunes. That's the only beef you have with this that I can get on board with.

The mini-pig should never have been awarded the "Gold" status. That being said, it happens every time something new is put into the game. People set the price ridiculously high and as they become more common-place the prices tank. An IDS would sell for 60 - 70K when they first came out. Now? 15K tops. Mini-pets started out commanding big bucks, too. Then they tanked. then, they allowed them to be shown in town. Boom! Prices in many cases doubled within hours! I can give you dozens of examples like that.
Sorry you had to go through all that work just to get something that you probably would've gotten in the end, anyway. That being said, It's evident that you're more interested in the market value of the event items than the fun of shooting them off. So I'll give you this: Who knows how much fireworks will sell for during the 4th-of-July?

Again, there's those dollar signs showing up in your agenda. Some people did it just for the challenge of getting every item. I do think that people who went out and got at least 1 of every item deserves some sort of special reward for doing the work to get there.

Yep, they're fun. And yep, it takes a bit of luck to get a good time, I've only gotten the superbeetle thing once in about 15 races. My highest score was around 440K. But they're meant to be challenging, so no complaints here. Hopefully, it won't be a mini-pig for the high-scorers.

The last thing we need is another title! But I'm glad you had fun with the R/P/S game. And yeah, the mini-pig should have been better thought out.

I didn't say I had no fun in the event, I said the finale was boring. They always have good finale's and this one was a major let down. I don't care about making money, I don't care about pigs, I don't care about free items, I care about awesome endings that they always have and didn't bring that to the table this time.

Going for gifts was fun, running from grasps to turn in orbs was fun, I had more fun standing around in a circle doing nothing then chasing a pig around for no reason.

A glitch or change would have been fixed by an Update. I remember there was one "There is a new build of GW" message very early on (within the first couple of hours of the event starting), but no other update since then.

To tell you the truth I actually prefered the no gift spawning (but yes I agree the orb running was so fun). Because with the gift spawning it just turned into present camping, 'ZOMG SOME NOOB IS STEALING MY PRESENTS!!shiftone!!' being spammed ><

I prefer the fact we get stocked up with presents as soon as the event is over so we can run around aimlessly.

(remember, most other events just gave you the hat then let you fight others for presents, this one gave you presents and a hat (and a minipet xD) then let you actually run around having a fun time)