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Hicks

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

18 Feb 2007 at 18:01 - 1

I had just bought a whole new set for my necromancer and was thinking about giving it a nice, dark color. Then Nightfall came out, and I was stuck, like many other players, with that pitch black thing...

So I thought, what if we could use the new dye system to our need, and make our own old-styled black dye? After a couple days of trying to at least get something close to the old black dye, I managed to make something quite accurate.

Please note that this dye recipe has not been tested on every single armors, so I am not sure if it works with every characters. All I know is, I couldn't get it right on most Monk, Warrior and Ranger armors. Further testing would be required as it seems to only work on Necromancer sets (since they are naturally darker) and the Jester's cap.

Here's the recipe in question:

Another mix that works nicely on Necromancer armors is Blue and Yellow. It is similar to the recipe shown above but it actually has a more blueish shade to it.

(Sorry for the grammar mistakes, if there's any.)

Feedback and more images would be nice

Have fun!

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

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18 Feb 2007 at 18:12 - 2

Nice find man, Time to try it out

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

18 Feb 2007 at 18:23 - 3

nice
I still prefer my silver armor though

Wretchman Drake

Jungle Guide

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Charr Carvings and [BeeR]

18 Feb 2007 at 19:24 - 4

wow nice find! kudos to OP

Star Alfur

Wilds Pathfinder

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18 Feb 2007 at 20:11 - 5

I've known about this for quite a while, but I first use 1xGreen + 1xPurple, then experiment from there, since it sometimes acts differently on certain armour.

It's great to know if you love mixed dye jobs.

Arkantos

The Greatest

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18 Feb 2007 at 20:29 - 6

Great find.

coleslawdressin

Krytan Explorer

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Victory on Demand [VoD]

Me/Mo

18 Feb 2007 at 20:33 - 7

Something like this works on mesmer 1.5k sunspear too. It might not be those exact same primary colors, but if someone messes with cheap dyes they can find it easily. It might have been red/orange/purple/blue, I forget. It was a very dark brown almost black... actually looked nicer than black to me but I ended up changing it to white ^^

Rodhin Kinning

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Arkansas

Survivors Of RhyDin [SoR]

W/Mo

18 Feb 2007 at 21:16 - 8

Nice find.

I found with my exotic Ranger armor it was hard to get the same dye job on the gloves and boots, that I was able to get on the chest and waist.

Its so hard to find a good dye job now days! heheh

Shanaeri Rynale

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

DVDF(Forums)

Me/N

18 Feb 2007 at 21:18 - 9

The closest color I could find to old black on my Mesmer fow was 3 blacks and a silver per peice - Ouch. 2 blacks+silver was a little too light and 1 black on it's own too dark.

Mr. G

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

S. Wales

Mo/Me

18 Feb 2007 at 22:50 - 10

If you want mesmer gear (mainly NF dont know why) try P+Grayx3

Tide to Go

Wilds Pathfinder

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I War Torn I [Torn]

N/Me

18 Feb 2007 at 23:09 - 11

money saver!

Hyunsai

Frost Gate Guardian

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A/Me

18 Feb 2007 at 23:18 - 12

Nice! I will try this on some sins armor.

EDIT: Total and complete failure lol

Enchanted Warrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/Mo

18 Feb 2007 at 23:44 - 13

I tried this on Ancient Warrior armor, and it appeared as more of a purplish wash. Prolly because of it being on metal. Should work great on cloth though

Wretchman Drake

Jungle Guide

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Charr Carvings and [BeeR]

18 Feb 2007 at 23:51 - 14

This works differently on armor. You just have to play around.

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

19 Feb 2007 at 01:45 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyunsai

Nice! I will try this on some sins armor.

EDIT: Total and complete failure lol

I found that if you use Red+Green+Blue on Sin armor, it matches the dark greyish color of the leather parts of the armor. Kinda like the old black in a sense.

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

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In your local courthouse.

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

19 Feb 2007 at 02:01 - 16

Wow, this is great, wonderful money saver!

Thanks for figuring this out so I didn't have to!

Lyonette

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australia

[PiG]

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19 Feb 2007 at 02:07 - 17

wow, awesome, thank you very much for sharing

can't wait to try it out on my necro.

MadOnion

Lion's Arch Merchant

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19 Feb 2007 at 02:34 - 18

Very nice find, thanks a ton!

M1h4iL

Jungle Guide

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Perth, Australia

19 Feb 2007 at 02:53 - 19

Try silver+dye remover, works well too

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

19 Feb 2007 at 02:55 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by M1h4iL

Try silver+dye remover, works well too

Dye remover? Where have you been for the past couple of months?

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

19 Feb 2007 at 02:57 - 21

This will NOT work on most armors!
Ive done lots of tests and must say that on most armors the old black CANNOT be reproduced. The closest to the old black you can get (on about 50% tested items) is the Black+Black combination, but that can't be applied to the item, just previewed.

is this even close to black?

bebe

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

http://tinyurl.com/4g5ueb8

Put the peanut in the peanut hole!

19 Feb 2007 at 03:40 - 22

Here's mine.

I haven't tested it on any other armors so..

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Pwny Ride

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Aussieland

Prime Players Of [OSHA] ~ [dth] alliance. <3

Me/E

19 Feb 2007 at 04:57 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

This will NOT work on most armors!
Ive done lots of tests and must say that on most armors the old black CANNOT be reproduced. The closest to the old black you can get (on about 50% tested items) is the Black+Black combination, but that can't be applied to the item, just previewed.

is this even close to black?

You mind not being a complete troll? At least HE tried something so id like to see YOU come up with something better.

Kthxbai

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

19 Feb 2007 at 05:15 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pwny Ride

You mind not being a complete troll? At least HE tried something so id like to see YOU come up with something better.

Kthxbai

He tried and failed but made a thread about it to make it look like a success. Even his examples are FAR from what the old black looked like.

And because of people like him or you people miss the real problem which is the flawed dye mixing system and the impossibility to reproduce the colors that the game engine CAN still display.

I've spent ~10 hours on testing the new dye mixing system and made detailed explainations on how it works in a thread on gwonline forums, I see I will have to put all that together again and post here...

Hicks

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

19 Feb 2007 at 05:36 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

He tried and failed but made a thread about it to make it look like a success. Even his examples are FAR from what the old black looked like.

I mentioned in my last reply that the dye recipe may not work on all armors but necromancer ones.

No need to bash the whole thing.

Silly Warrior

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The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

19 Feb 2007 at 06:01 - 26

I can confirm it totally works on Necromancer 15k tormentors, I just did it

Acdc Freeq

Ascalonian Squire

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VT

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19 Feb 2007 at 06:08 - 27

Can anyone post a screen of a dye combo to achieve the old dye color for Ranger Ancient armor?

Pwny Ride

Wilds Pathfinder

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Aussieland

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Me/E

19 Feb 2007 at 08:10 - 28

Green + Blue + Purple works excellently on Female Canthan 15k mesmer armor, confirmed

vojnik

Academy Page

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Aussie land

Australian Vengance Alliance

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19 Feb 2007 at 08:14 - 29

works great on necrotic male 15k. Finally got rid of those purple boots when all other parts are the old black =p

bam23

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

19 Feb 2007 at 09:20 - 30

I like it. The new black dye is horrific.

fenix

Major-General Awesome

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19 Feb 2007 at 10:22 - 31

I have a cheaper way to make old black. 1 Gray dye.

Pwny Ride

Wilds Pathfinder

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Aussieland

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19 Feb 2007 at 10:42 - 32

Quote:

Originally Posted by talon

I have a cheaper way to make old black. 1 Gray dye.

Care to explain?

Rodhin Kinning

Academy Page

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Arkansas

Survivors Of RhyDin [SoR]

W/Mo

19 Feb 2007 at 11:12 - 33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pwny Ride

Care to explain?

I'm sure it was just a non constructive reply.

fenix

Major-General Awesome

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19 Feb 2007 at 11:14 - 34

No, 1 Gray is the same colour as old Black on most armors. Unfortunate, but true.

Rodhin Kinning

Academy Page

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Arkansas

Survivors Of RhyDin [SoR]

W/Mo

19 Feb 2007 at 11:35 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by talon

No, 1 Gray is the same colour as old Black on most armors. Unfortunate, but true.

Sorry misjudged the comment then. But I would have to say that I've seen gray on some of the warrior armor that I've had dyed Black before and its far from the old Black.

Are you speaking of the "old" three dye Black? (With no black in it.)

fenix

Major-General Awesome

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19 Feb 2007 at 12:31 - 36

I mean that 1 Gray is the same (almost) as 1 old Black, or at least it is on a few armors I've tried it on. I might have to go back and check...

Hicks

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

19 Feb 2007 at 13:40 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pwny Ride

Green + Blue + Purple works excellently on Female Canthan 15k mesmer armor, confirmed

Nice, I'll have to try that one out

It seems like you have to change the yellow dye to get it right on other armors.

M1h4iL

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Perth, Australia

19 Feb 2007 at 14:01 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkantos

Dye remover? Where have you been for the past couple of months?

In that case Gray Dye genius

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

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19 Feb 2007 at 14:08 - 39

Even on all necro armor it won't work. The dye results are based on the crafting materials used in the making of the armor. Even that bering said, there are times when the same dye on the same matching sets of armor for a class will turn out differently, orange on 15k sunspear dervish chest isn't the same as on the legs.

One thing that really sucks with the removal of dye remover is that it is sometimes impossible to get back to the original color. I dyed my Storm Bow this weekend, and no matter what combination I try, I can't get it back to the original. Gray doesn't work, it just makes it look horrible.

Zorrilo Gw

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

NS, Canada

FTF

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03 Mar 2007 at 18:36 - 40

Any1 know good combo for monk fow asc?