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Ajora

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

There Is A Cow Level

W/A

19 Feb 2007 at 09:15 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hockster

You have even less of a clue, yet you start calling for a rollback. Utterly ridiculous.

You're the one who needs to reread. Check my post. I merely said this was interesting, and wondered what kind of action would be taken.

Quote:

Judging from the amount of people complaining, I wonder if a rollback is going to be a good idea?

Exact quote. I didn't shout, scream, or cry for a reset. Even asked it in question form.

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

19 Feb 2007 at 09:16 - 42

Yeah I just did it with a friend, so it still works. It's not easy to do though. NO I am not doing it for profit I'm not mean like that, couldnt' take someone else's money like that.

undeadgun

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

US

Its Rainning Fame Hallelujah[伞回伞], also as guild leader

N/

19 Feb 2007 at 09:18 - 43

am i the 1st one post bout is?(in high ended), personly hate dis-honest ppl
and thx anet to fix this ugly thing

Artisan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Sunset City

Ark Royal [ARK]

A/R

19 Feb 2007 at 09:23 - 44

Can't imagine they'd roll back over an event. It would cause mass hysteria.

Ajora

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

There Is A Cow Level

W/A

19 Feb 2007 at 09:26 - 45

True enough, still interested if anything will be done though.

savage vapor 33

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Regems Basement

The Malevolent Wolfpack [tMw]

19 Feb 2007 at 09:49 - 46

So are people trading 249 ectos? when it should be 250? thats what i dont understand..

Edit: It's not 250, its 100, i get it.

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

19 Feb 2007 at 10:09 - 47

Just got the fix for it, nice and fast, but too late for some.

undeadgun

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

US

Its Rainning Fame Hallelujah[伞回伞], also as guild leader

N/

19 Feb 2007 at 10:10 - 48

new build YAY! thx anet, u guys are 1337

Draconis85

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

19 Feb 2007 at 10:20 - 49

yeah, its about 2:30 AM (PST) and they fixed it instead of waiting for the this morning. thanks a-net

Vandal2k6

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Manchester, UK

The Manchester Marauders

W/Rt

19 Feb 2007 at 10:25 - 50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

We're relaying messages and a fix is being worked on now.

Thanks again for the prompt report!

Great news. Cheers Gaile (and whoever fixes it

)

Rodhin Kinning

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Arkansas

Survivors Of RhyDin [SoR]

W/Mo

19 Feb 2007 at 10:33 - 51

Thanks for the report of the glitch and thanks to Anet for the prompted fix.

Karlos

Master of Mallyx

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Kaizen Order [Kaiz]

E/Me

19 Feb 2007 at 10:40 - 52

Yup, tested all the scenarios we reproduced before and all have been addressed. Well done.

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

19 Feb 2007 at 10:46 - 53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlos

Yup, tested all the scenarios we reproduced before and all have been addressed. Well done.

Indeed. I tested a scenario of matching slot trades, all went back to normal. Quick and excellent fix Anet.

LJz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

ind

We All Hate (Pugz)

Mo/Me

19 Feb 2007 at 11:13 - 54

u know i am one that did get scammed over an armbrace and a allaince member did too. i traded for the ammount i saw in window and the ammount that was pmed between the 2 of us. i lost 210ecto over a glitch not cause i was stupid or anyone else. ya saying that a roll back would be bogus cause of an event, r u serious? when a skill that is glitch gets abused in GvG it was rollback, when rune trader sold sup vigor for extremly cheap it was rollback same as ecto's. and that was not effective toward anyone losing money but the game itself.but now that ppl play long hours to get weapon to sell or whatever and sell these thing for price they going for and ppl scam them by a glitch no one saying a rollback is in order? i mean ppl getting rich off this making millions off 10 ecto or whatever. i spamed about the glitch in town i posted how to do it when i spent an hour trying to learn how to stop ppl from getting worked over not for any other reason than to stop ppl from getting rich over scamming ppl. i feel there should be a roll back cause we know u can not BAN everyone that was scamming,but yet a suspension just does not seem fair. Suspending someone for a week for making ALLOT of money making other made and broke. i mean if i can make millions and just get suspended for week or whatever let me know so i can make room in storage

Artisan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Sunset City

Ark Royal [ARK]

A/R

19 Feb 2007 at 11:50 - 55

Quote:

Originally Posted by LJz

u know i am one that did get scammed over an armbrace and a allaince member did too. i traded for the ammount i saw in window and the ammount that was pmed between the 2 of us. i lost 210ecto over a glitch not cause i was stupid or anyone else. ya saying that a roll back would be bogus cause of an event, r u serious? when a skill that is glitch gets abused in GvG it was rollback, when rune trader sold sup vigor for extremly cheap it was rollback same as ecto's. and that was not effective toward anyone losing money but the game itself.but now that ppl play long hours to get weapon to sell or whatever and sell these thing for price they going for and ppl scam them by a glitch no one saying a rollback is in order? i mean ppl getting rich off this making millions off 10 ecto or whatever. i spamed about the glitch in town i posted how to do it when i spent an hour trying to learn how to stop ppl from getting worked over not for any other reason than to stop ppl from getting rich over scamming ppl. i feel there should be a roll back cause we know u can not BAN everyone that was scamming,but yet a suspension just does not seem fair. Suspending someone for a week for making ALLOT of money making other made and broke. i mean if i can make millions and just get suspended for week or whatever let me know so i can make room in storage

Yeah, ok. They roll back, and get hate mail from EVERY SINGLE PERSON who participated in the event. Yeah, 'i m serious'. I'm not saying they shouldn't do something else, but a rollback immediately following a major weekend-long holiday event would be exponentially more damaging to the playerbase than this glitch.

Whiplashr

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

19 Feb 2007 at 12:01 - 56

I just wanted to say, I am very impressed with the quick reaction and fix by Gaile and ANET. Well done. Very well done.

jimmy_logic

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

R/

19 Feb 2007 at 13:51 - 57

Quick fix was needed... this was a highly exploitable bug as proof be shown. Great work.

Suxipo

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

19 Feb 2007 at 16:19 - 58

Eventhough I was not scammed by this glitch, I sympathize how you feel when loosing so much money to scammers. I think more severe purnishment should be in place for those filthy scammers. Suspensions for few days or 1 week after getting a million is bearable.

fearlesslife

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

19 Feb 2007 at 17:31 - 59

dam is this still going on? Im afriad of trading high ends now

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

19 Feb 2007 at 18:51 - 60

Wait, I have a question. If you look at the chat window, was the correct amount listed AFTER you did the trade?

Warmaster Patton

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Insanity

Vis Decus Vertus [vDv]

R/

19 Feb 2007 at 18:57 - 61

Time to ring the trusty guild warning bell.

^why does it matter? The scam would already be done.^

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

19 Feb 2007 at 19:00 - 62

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warmaster Patton

Time to ring the trusty guild warning bell.

^why does it matter? The scam would already be done.^

It matters because that means there are larger matters at hand than just the icons.

Just icons means a visual glitch. A text glitch means a bug in the actual trade system.

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

19 Feb 2007 at 19:08 - 63

Quote:

Originally Posted by LifeInfusion

It matters because that means there are larger matters at hand than just the icons.

Just icons means a visual glitch. A text glitch means a bug in the actual trade system.

To me it showed just 1 traded, but I don't know about the person I traded with didn't think to ask him. I'm thinking it did only say 1, but I'm not sure, it might not have.

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

19 Feb 2007 at 19:10 - 64

Wow, most serious bug ever?

It suprises me that I didn't get a rollback.

Too bad I didn't know, I'd actually use this one

HKSdivision

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

19 Feb 2007 at 19:46 - 65

It seems they updated it but I haven't tried it out.

From GW.com:
Update - Monday February 19

* Fixed a bug that sometimes caused trade offers to be displayed incorrectly.

Mennovh

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2007

19 Feb 2007 at 20:41 - 66

nice to see this has been fixed.

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

19 Feb 2007 at 21:04 - 67

Suggesting a rollback is ridiculous. Only a small percentage of GW gamers can even afford ectos and such so only a small percentage of players were affected in a significant way by this scam. I feel bad for the people who got scammed. I can't stand scammers but rolling back will affect too many people unnecessarily. Hopefully the scammers got a perma ban for this.

LJz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

ind

We All Hate (Pugz)

Mo/Me

19 Feb 2007 at 23:00 - 68

only small percentage can afford ecto's , wtf is that your defense? ppl say no roll back cause of event. u telling me no one has 10k in there storage ? there is no difference from this than there is from rune trader while back ago,except ppl got screwed from this from other ppl. we had to roll back cause ecconomy was gonna be messed up. like it matters if everyone in game had 100 sup vig. but now that ppl bust there ass to get what ever to actually have money in game for need to sell last weapon to finish getting FoW armor and he gets scmmed by game problem its ok? if this was a GvG or PvP flitch we would not have this discussion there would have been a rollback alrdy,but since only a "couple " people got hammered by scam we should just tell em , hey nice job sucker glad u finally got something worth a damn o and by the way hahaha u r still broke!

Enko

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

VA

Mo/

19 Feb 2007 at 23:13 - 69

i just bought around 100 ectos from someone and every time the displayed value was a different amount in the trade window. once i got the ectos into my inventory, it displayed correctly.

exiled mat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

The netherlands > friesland > balk

[JAMM] Justified Ancients of Moo Moo

E/Me

19 Feb 2007 at 23:33 - 70

Why should anoyone trade 100 ecto's anyway? :S

allas, i don't get people who actually want to pay so much for an armor which is easily replaced by some random 1K Armor

greens and 1K armor ftw

ontopic: horrible bug, horrible people who have used the bug to become "rich" ... NERF scammers please

Artisan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Sunset City

Ark Royal [ARK]

A/R

20 Feb 2007 at 01:07 - 71

Quote:

Originally Posted by LJz

only small percentage can afford ecto's , wtf is that your defense? ppl say no roll back cause of event. u telling me no one has 10k in there storage ? there is no difference from this than there is from rune trader while back ago,except ppl got screwed from this from other ppl. we had to roll back cause ecconomy was gonna be messed up. like it matters if everyone in game had 100 sup vig. but now that ppl bust there ass to get what ever to actually have money in game for need to sell last weapon to finish getting FoW armor and he gets scmmed by game problem its ok? if this was a GvG or PvP flitch we would not have this discussion there would have been a rollback alrdy,but since only a "couple " people got hammered by scam we should just tell em , hey nice job sucker glad u finally got something worth a damn o and by the way hahaha u r still broke!

Again, do you have any idea what a rollback over an event like the one we just had would do to the game? Half the playerbase would quit.

arbiter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

that dwarven house in beacons perch

koss

W/

20 Feb 2007 at 01:44 - 72

I think the main reason you couldnt roll back would be because anet doesnt know when this problem occured. It was a glitch that probably happened during the evnt update but no one knows when it was discovered, they would have to roll back the event completly to be sure and they cant do that.

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

20 Feb 2007 at 02:38 - 73

Quote:

Originally Posted by LJz

only small percentage can afford ecto's , wtf is that your defense? ppl say no roll back cause of event. u telling me no one has 10k in there storage ? there is no difference from this than there is from rune trader while back ago,except ppl got screwed from this from other ppl. we had to roll back cause ecconomy was gonna be messed up. like it matters if everyone in game had 100 sup vig. but now that ppl bust there ass to get what ever to actually have money in game for need to sell last weapon to finish getting FoW armor and he gets scmmed by game problem its ok? if this was a GvG or PvP flitch we would not have this discussion there would have been a rollback alrdy,but since only a "couple " people got hammered by scam we should just tell em , hey nice job sucker glad u finally got something worth a damn o and by the way hahaha u r still broke!

First of all, learn some decent english, learn to type and break up the goddamn paragraph. I had a hell of a time reading that garbage.

You just dont get it. Only a very very small percentage of people got scammed for a significant amount of gold. And you think a rollback that affects EVERYONE and screws most of the people who were not scammed in any way is a good idea?

Quote:

Originally Posted by LJz

if this was a GvG or PvP flitch we would not have this discussion there would have been a rollback alrdy

Umm why would any PVP "flitch" require any sort of rollback? This has never happend. Did you even think before you posted?

Yes it sucks that you got scammed. But now you're just being a selfish *censored* to want a rollback when only a relative handful of players got scammed by the exploit of this bug.

StarchyApple

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/

20 Feb 2007 at 03:31 - 74

sorry for the dumb question..but what is a rollback?

Artisan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Sunset City

Ark Royal [ARK]

A/R

20 Feb 2007 at 03:43 - 75

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarchyApple

sorry for the dumb question..but what is a rollback?

Revert to a backed up copy of the data.

Judging from when the glitch occured, if they did a rollback because of it, it would erase everything that happened during the event.

Caspar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

20 Feb 2007 at 03:43 - 76

Rollback:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollbac..._management%29

divinechancellor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

Limited Liability Company [LLC]

E/

20 Feb 2007 at 03:47 - 77

yea, some sick time machine that devourers my hard work

w00t!

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sorrow's Furnace Hot Tub

RoS

Mo/Me

20 Feb 2007 at 04:23 - 78

Quote:

Originally Posted by LJz

u know i am one that did get scammed
(snip)
ya saying that a roll back would be bogus cause of an event, r u serious?
(snip)
when a skill that is glitch gets abused in GvG it was rollback
(snip)

First, sorry you got scammed.

Second, you are confusing something in your post. When someone mentions rollback, they usually mean database rollback. That is nearly impossible to do in a MMORPG. Now, they can rollback code by reverting to a previous version, using version control.

Rolling back code is much easier than rolling back a database. I work for a fortune 500 company that routinely does disaster recovery exercises on transactional databases, and rolling back databases is scary difficult to do and fraught with peril. We often rollback code to previous versions, but I can't every recall us actually implementing a disaster recovery plan, due to the cost and the probability of failure.

Anet rolling back code would not solve your problem. The only thing you could do is to provide proof of your trade. Give anet the time / date / name, and they can possibly trace the transaction. Long shot, but might be worth trying.

Best of luck

LJz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

ind

We All Hate (Pugz)

Mo/Me

20 Feb 2007 at 05:53 - 79

well i am dropping it nothing is gonna happen bout any of it,scammers gonna get Free Fow armor or whatever after there little week or 2 suspension.

Hell Raiser

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

[PHNX]

Mo/

20 Feb 2007 at 06:29 - 80

I don't think they would do a rollback because alot of people lost money this way, it wasn't lost because of stupidity like most scams, but I just don't see them rolling back the entire game (especially through an event). I think they should punish those who scammed this way, though.