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Lord-UWR

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Fiction We Live In [FaKe]

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02 Mar 2007 at 03:29 - 1

Does anyone ever check the articles related to NCSoft? Chapter 4 aside, there is a major update coming to ALL NCSoft products, Guild Wars Included, which is related directly to the chat system. That’s right! Finally an update on the chat system.

Here is the quote from the interview, READ CAREFULLY:

"…Robert: You have to mention something I love. The V key.
Richard: Oh yeah. One of the hassles of most MMOs is text chat. Everyone is talking to each other by typing.
Robert: Everyone is talking to each other. It’s a detriment to group play.
Richard: You have to have a special key hit to go into mouse look mode. I think a first-person view is best to explore a world. You’re constantly looking around with your mouse and moving with the WASD keys. But that means the keyboard is not available for text chat. So we have fully integrated voice chat through the whole game. People don’t have to worry about having to type.
Robert: It makes such a difference to me. Things go on all around you and you can talk to your team. It really changes the play of the game and it is just integrated.
Q: Are many games doing this well?
Richard: It’s a pretty easy thing to integrate now but I don’t see very many doing it. I’m not sure why it’s not more prevalent.
Q: Are you using your own or Skype?
Richard: The codec is something we’ve licensed but we’re using our own. We fully integrated it with the text chat. We took our voice and text chat system and made it an NCSoft tool. So before Tabula Rasa even launches, you’ll be able to text chat and voice chat across any NCSoft products concurrently. So if your friend is playing Guild Wars, you can send an invite to join you in any future NCSoft releases. It’s like long-distance telephone and an MMO.
Q: You can be in the phone business.
Richard: Exactly…"

Here is the link to the article, although it is about Tabula Rasa.
Interview With Richard and Robert Garriott About Tabula Rasa, Massively Multiplayer Online Games, And Taking On World of Warcraft

It would be great if someone from Anet could actually inform us all if this will take place with Chapter 4 or not...I mean come on, you said every 6 months...HAHAHAHA...Ok I'll shut up now.

You just got tomahawked

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

H-Town

The Battle Bakery [vPie]

N/

02 Mar 2007 at 03:33 - 2

Anet has leetsauce oozing from their skin right now.

RSGashapon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Sol 3

R/

02 Mar 2007 at 03:45 - 3

*remembers back to his days of Counter-Strike and hearing many a 14-year-old's Darth Vader impersonations*

*has a really long shudder*

I'm not sure this is a good idea. Teamspeak and Ventrilo are one thing, being rather exclusive. Anet better include a mute feature or expanded ignore list if they're going to implement this kind of update to the chat system.

dgb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/Me

02 Mar 2007 at 03:51 - 4

Eh they've been talking about this for years - nobody really cares AFAIK. Use vent if you're with friends. To be honest, PVE pugs are the last thing I'd want to talk to.

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

02 Mar 2007 at 03:53 - 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSGashapon

*remembers back to his days of Counter-Strike and hearing many a 14-year-old's Darth Vader impersonations*

*has a really long shudder*

I'm not sure this is a good idea. Teamspeak and Ventrilo are one thing, being rather exclusive. Anet better include a mute feature or expanded ignore list if they're going to implement this kind of update to the chat system.

give us the option to mute as well

Lord-UWR

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02 Mar 2007 at 03:54 - 6

Obviously it will not be for general chat. It will most likely be for team speak, guild speak, etc. But the universal chat, between different games kinda scares me. I REALLY do not wish to talk to some Lineage player!!!^^

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

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W/E

02 Mar 2007 at 03:56 - 7

I know SUN also has integrated voice chat can't think of any others that do off the top of my head though..

Lord-UWR

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02 Mar 2007 at 04:02 - 8

Right now, Auto Assault has integerated voice chat, but this one better be better. And I don't want to hear anyone in LA in Trade.

lg5000

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

02 Mar 2007 at 04:10 - 9

I dunno, i think it'd be funny hearing someone in LA trading.. for about 1 min max before I'd be inclined to hit whatever mute button I can find.

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

02 Mar 2007 at 04:17 - 10

Am I reading it all wrong?
Is this just talking into a microphone and the computer typing out text according to what you are saying?
We wouldn't be hearing their voices, just seeing text in the chat box.

Laenavesse

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

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02 Mar 2007 at 04:17 - 11

i'm sure there will be options to filter out what you want to hear and such. i mean, people don't see what you're saying in the team channel through typing, it would be stupid to have all of chat and guild and alliance and trade and whatnot to hear what you're saying that was meant to be confidential.

i'm going to assume that there will be different channels (like in the normal text chat) that you could switch to and the option to mute.

..*imagines hearing the swirl of voices in trade...*

BoondockSaint

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/Me

02 Mar 2007 at 04:23 - 12

You guys are all right and I hope they have a mute block button or something, but I personally love the idea. You see My buddies and I all play on the school server which blocks the ports that would allow us to use TM and VENT. So its kinda of a hassle to drag all our computer to one anothers rooms is were doing a guild battle or TA.

So in my specific case I welcome this change with open arms thanks ANET

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

02 Mar 2007 at 04:23 - 13

The Chinese GW launches its open beta on March 7th, and it did hinted a major update on the same date on the press release.

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

02 Mar 2007 at 04:31 - 14

Use common sense, people. Of course Voice Chat will be limited to groups only...

...but that quote makes no sense. Is NCSoft giving funds to ArenaNet for the massive amount of bandwidth voice chat entails? Sounds messy.

Lord-UWR

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02 Mar 2007 at 04:39 - 15

But the fact that THERE WILL BE IN-GAME VOICE CHAT, LIKE VENT, TS, ect. is almost 100%. Should we be excited or not?

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

02 Mar 2007 at 04:52 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord-UWR

But the fact that THERE WILL BE IN-GAME VOICE CHAT, LIKE VENT, TS, ect. is almost 100%. Should we be excited or not?

Won't change anything. All serious PvE/PvP groups already use TS/Ventrilo. Integrated Voice Chat is much more convient, but nothing to be excited over.

And for non-serious PvE/PvP groups...you will hate that change. Trust me. 2 years of Xbox Live have told me that...

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

02 Mar 2007 at 05:14 - 17

a little late for me to care, i use vent when needed

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

02 Mar 2007 at 05:17 - 18

I think this is a bad idea. they need to invest in more servers before adding something that takes up that much bandwidth. the lagg is going to be incredible.

Lord-UWR

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02 Mar 2007 at 05:30 - 19

I am pretty sure that have already thought about the servers...this is professional network people in NCSoft we're talking about. And If I understood properly, there is gonna be a seperate master server just for voice chat accessed by all games from NCSoft.

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

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The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

02 Mar 2007 at 05:33 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord-UWR

I am pretty sure that have already thought about the servers...this is professional network people in NCSoft we're talking about. And If I understood properly, there is gonna be a seperate master server just for voice chat accessed by all games from NCSoft.

If that's the case, then I can imagine a subscription fee for this service. We have "plaync" already, it won't be too hard to imagine "plaync+" with some exclusive features like voice-chat server for all games or maybe some other services.

arcanemacabre

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Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

02 Mar 2007 at 05:53 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cacheelma

If that's the case, then I can imagine a subscription fee for this service. We have "plaync" already, it won't be too hard to imagine "plaync+" with some exclusive features like voice-chat server for all games or maybe some other services.

That is exactly what I'm thinking, and exactly why I'm not too thrilled until we find out more. If it's a one time fee, like $20-30 US, fine, if it's a monthly, very few GW players will do it because that's a top5 reason people play GW. It just won't be worth it if only a handful of people use it in that case.

VitisVinifera

Banned

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Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

02 Mar 2007 at 06:26 - 22

if they offer a pay for voice chat that'll be a collossal waste of their time

vent, teamspeak, roger wilco, etc etc etc, all free any easy to use

edit: and are already well-established in the community who need real time voice chat

savage vapor 33

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Regems Basement

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02 Mar 2007 at 06:31 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinger314

Won't change anything. All serious PvE/PvP groups already use TS/Ventrilo. Integrated Voice Chat is much more convient, but nothing to be excited over.

And for non-serious PvE/PvP groups...you will hate that change. Trust me. 2 years of Xbox Live have told me that...

Agreed. It will be pretty cool at first. But hearing all the little 10 year olds playing, *cringes* just like in XBOX live. O god...

/supports the integrated voice chat.

zwei2stein

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Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

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02 Mar 2007 at 06:49 - 24

Let me get it straight ... were being constantly told that popular updates like more storage and a-house, etc. are impossible because lack of BW and server resources, yet we get freaking voice chat that is very wastefull as far as server resource are concerned and that is not being desired by comunity at all ... jeez.

Knightsaber Sith

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02 Mar 2007 at 06:52 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Let me get it straight ... were being constantly told that popular updates like more storage and a-house, etc. are impossible because lack of BW and server resources, yet we get freaking voice chat that is very wastefull as far as server resource are concerned and that is not being desired by comunity at all ... jeez.

Again, the server bandwidth is being provided by NCsoft for all their games. It's not something Anet's spending their budget on. It's not something that Anet thought the community wanted, it's something NCsoft decided to incorporate into all their games.

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

02 Mar 2007 at 06:52 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Let me get it straight ... were being constantly told that popular updates like more storage and a-house, etc. are impossible because lack of BW and server resources, yet we get freaking voice chat that is very wastefull as far as server resource are concerned and that is not being desired by comunity at all ... jeez.

Which part of "NCSoft service" you don't understand?

Zorglubb

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

02 Mar 2007 at 06:57 - 27

Voice coms? You mean to hear the screeching screaming voices of pre-teenagers all around you? You mean dealing with all the cussing like in XBox Live games? You mean having to turn the voice volume way down to be happy again?

I would rather they add a builtin comms system with pre-recorded voice, ala Unreal Tournament.

Knightsaber Sith

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02 Mar 2007 at 07:08 - 28

The way they described it as "you can invite others to talk with you"; it's not just an open channel with a bunch of morons running around screaming. You invite who you want to talk with and it can be anyone playing any of NCsoft's games.

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

02 Mar 2007 at 07:16 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorglubb

...
I would rather they add a builtin comms system with pre-recorded voice, ala Unreal Tournament.

Or Diablo 2...you know..the 1~7 number keys on your number pad.

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

02 Mar 2007 at 10:28 - 30

I hope they add a mute button.

King Kong

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W/R

02 Mar 2007 at 10:38 - 31

Think i will just keep to xfire, all you would get in GW is abuse

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

02 Mar 2007 at 10:57 - 32

I rather like the ability to converse via text or voice with other NCSoft product's players--I have several friends who play both GW and Lineage, and it's not always easy to get ahold of them when they're in L2.

Aerian_Skybane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

House of Caeruleous [HoC]

R/E

02 Mar 2007 at 12:23 - 33

I really hope they add an efficient in-game voice com, it saves heavily on system resources (takes the stress away from my computer), dont need a server to run, and doesnt hog major other resources (like skype). It would be a really important upgrade to all of NCsoft's game.

And I dont get where everyone is thinking it will be like CS. It will clearly be a designated team/guild setup, it would be unbelievably useless and resource consuming to have an ALL voice chat, so stop being of the paranoid sheltered *ZOMG I HAVE ONLY USED INTEGRATED VOICE CHAT IN CS THEREFORE IT MUST BE LIKE WHAT NCSOFT IS PLANNING* opinion. That voice chat is for a server with limited amounts of people, guild wars is an MMO, not a single server for those annoying CS kids (of which I mute, its very easy to ignore).

Pandora's box

Jungle Guide

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Netherlands

Mo/W

02 Mar 2007 at 13:40 - 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redfeather1975

Am I reading it all wrong?
Is this just talking into a microphone and the computer typing out text according to what you are saying?
We wouldn't be hearing their voices, just seeing text in the chat box.

I sincerely hope its like that: a voice recognition feature that shows what you are saying in text. I'm a bit clumsy with fast typing and I never chat when I am fighting. And I refuse to use real voice programs like teamspeak because part of the fun in games like this is roleplaying and imagination. I don't want to know how someone really is or sounds.

Bankai

Desert Nomad

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Bubblegum Dragons

Mo/E

02 Mar 2007 at 14:19 - 35

God.

That is so leet.

I'm not bored enough to read/comment on all the bashing.

XvArchonvX

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

02 Mar 2007 at 16:43 - 36

In the right group, voice chat is excellent, but with the wrong people it can make online gameplay completely and utterly miserable. There are reasons I don't play Halo 2 on Xbox Live anymore...

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

02 Mar 2007 at 18:17 - 37

What do you want to bet this is a background service they will be adding to the PlayNC Launcher. IE something 99% of GW gamers don't use.

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

02 Mar 2007 at 18:36 - 38

I do not want this. P.E.R.I.O.D...

I have friends that play on 56k dialup. Voice chat kills them, because of bandwidth. Add voice chat in GW, and they're dead.

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

02 Mar 2007 at 19:37 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retribution X

I do not want this. P.E.R.I.O.D...

I have friends that play on 56k dialup. Voice chat kills them, because of bandwidth. Add voice chat in GW, and they're dead.

You are ridiculous.

They won't give that option and not be able to let someone turn it off. They would have to be ignorant and stupid not to include that.

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

02 Mar 2007 at 19:43 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega X

You are ridiculous.

They won't give that option and not be able to let someone turn it off. They would have to be ignorant and stupid not to include that.

Yeah, Well, Turning down the graphics and sound do absolutly nothing to the internet speed.

And I feel that more people would use this than chat, so it would be rather hard to do one without the other.

If they have a way to not ruin my friends experence, I'm all for it.