The Next Major Update ?!!

Ekelon

Ekelon

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Rebel Rising [rawr]

A/W

Yes, it is as simply as turning it completely off (no, not just turning off volume). You could simply have a box in the F11 options that says, "Enable Voice Chat". Problem solved.

This seems like a really nice idea, for those of us who would rather communicate in voice chat instead of typing. I do admit though, that it would reveal to us the many males posing as females in the game though, haha, granted that they have a microphone. :P

sindex

sindex

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

California

Swords of Night & Day [SWRD]

Well it’s good to see that there adding this feature and I agree they will have a mute option to it. As for price that NCsoft will have it out for; I say $0, for that executive was right the voice system has been implemented into games before. Games like Counter Strike and URU Live has this option in their games, and they do not charge extra for it.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

Listening to voice chat isn't terribly optional if you've ever tried that with vent. If anyone is leading in voice chat, you will be confused and left behind if you aren't listening in.

Wonder if that is what the textchat option is for? Good luck getting that to be terribly accurate though...

Lord-UWR

Lord-UWR

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Fiction We Live In [FaKe]

W/R

Guyz, the people working on this are PROS. They know what they are doing, of course they will account for all advantages and disadvantages.

You just got tomahawked

You just got tomahawked

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

H-Town

The Battle Bakery [vPie]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord-UWR
Guyz, the people working on this are PROS. They know what they are doing, of course they will account for all advantages and disadvantages.
The same pros that balance Discord, channeling, and made 6-man HA. kk

Lord-UWR

Lord-UWR

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Fiction We Live In [FaKe]

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by You just got tomahawked
The same pros that balance Discord, channeling, and made 6-man HA. kk
Do not be a nub, this is being developed by NCSoft, not Anet.

You just got tomahawked

You just got tomahawked

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

H-Town

The Battle Bakery [vPie]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord-UWR
Do not be a nub, this is being developed by NCSoft, not Anet.
meh Anet will get their hands on it at some time and mess it up.

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by You just got tomahawked
meh Anet will get their hands on it at some time and mess it up.
Do you have any POINT to make other than bashing Anet?

Lord-UWR

Lord-UWR

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Fiction We Live In [FaKe]

W/R

Yea, seriously. What has Anet ever done to you other than offering a great game?

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Lord-UWR's misguided optimism aside, I do disagree with tomahawk, but I do not support him.

NCSoft is really going-for-broke here. They are taking too mmuch of a risk.

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

I think is not "integrated" to game, it's just a tool like TS or Vent, but from NSoft. Maybe part of "PlayNC Launcher" tool.

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Lord-UWR's misguided optimism aside, I do disagree with tomahawk, but I do not support him.

NCSoft is really going-for-broke here. They are taking too mmuch of a risk.
How is creating a VOIP backbone for all of their games much of a risk? It seems like a solid investment for a game maker such as NCSoft.

Retribution X

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega X
How is creating a VOIP backbone for all of their games much of a risk? It seems like a solid investment for a game maker such as NCSoft.
No, Because not all internet is able to support VoIP, and other players might lean very heavily on it, which could cause communication loss, and more people would whine and complain.

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Retribution X
No, Because not all internet is able to support VoIP, and other players might lean very heavily on it, which could cause communication loss, and more people would whine and complain.
So what.

How is this different from any other game with VoIP?

People always whine and complain, how is this any different?

There are some people who don't use VoIP period and they are on broadband, so I don't see how some kind of communication loss would happen. Especially when the service is able to do TEXT AND VOICE CHAT. Sounds like a lot of hot air over nothing.

People who lean heavily on VoIP already use TS or Ventrilio. This service is just another option to use. People who never tried it will have a chance to use an official NCSoft version.

People who can't or won't use it will just turn it off like any other person with a brain who can choose to.

Retribution X

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega X
So what.

How is this different from any other game with VoIP?
Um, Like thay state that minimum req for GW is 56k dialup. VoIP isn't supported on 56k


Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega X
There are some people who don't use VoIP period and they are on broadband, so I don't see how some kind of communication loss would happen. Especially when the service is able to do TEXT AND VOICE CHAT. Sounds like a lot of hot air over nothing.

People who lean heavily on VoIP already use TS or Ventrilio. This service is just another option to use. People who never tried it will have a chance to use an official NCSoft version.

People who can't or won't use it will just turn it off like any other person with a brain who can choose to.
Yeah, But All I'm worried about is that this will REPLACE text chat, by most everyone using VoIP over text chat. If so, dialup will be screwed.

I'm not averse to it, I'm in favor of it. I just hope it doesn't screw text chat.

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

I can't see it possibly replacing text chat. It'll probably only get used in areas like HoH and elite missions. As well as just chatting with friends and guildies of course.

wingzro

wingzro

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Canada

If the people I'm playing with can't even read or take the time to read the text chat, then I'd rather not play with them.

Allanon754

Allanon754

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Rochester, NY

Kings Beyond the Wall [KING]

Mo/

Though I know it can be difficult to get for some 56k is in mostly in the past Retribution X and I'm surprised Guild Wars works with it. That said, it'll either be very good and helpful or a waste as the VoIP's for many games are often low quality and I'll take a high quality vent server over, say the in game talk in Counter Strike Source.

Retribution X

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Allanon754
Though I know it can be difficult to get for some 56k is in mostly in the past Retribution X and I'm surprised Guild Wars works with it.
Not in the past yet. There's lots of places in the states where you can't even get 56k.

Orbberius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

For completely selfish reasons, I'd prefer it not be in the game. Selfish reason being my computer is rather old and adding more bloat to Guild Wars doesn't make me happy. And Ventrilo works just fine, and better than any in-game option, probably. The only downside to Ventrilo is the need for a server.

Operations

Operations

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Saint Louis, MI (yes, it exists)

Pylons of Bastet [PofB]

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Yeah, I see this as another "$10 Voice Chat" feature in the online store...

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Retribution X
Um, Like thay state that minimum req for GW is 56k dialup. VoIP isn't supported on 56k
Yeah, and you missed the point entirely.

(TO add to that little quip, 56k is the minimum and not the recommended. Also the box says "Internet Connection" but doesn't state the speed. VoIP is not apart of the minimum required for the game so your argument is useless as it doesn't affect the minimum to the slightest degree.)


If 56k don't support it, then so be it. But it still won't stop those who are able from using it. And that means that it isn't a bad addition to the game regardless.

Gotta love choice. Its a beautiful thing.

Chunk

Chunk

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mo/N

#1. It won't be free.

#2. It not be for anything other than party chat.

#3. It will be laggier and of lower quality than TS and Vent.

#4. Its already too late for Guild Wars.


I recommend that they perfect the voicechat system for the next MMORPG they release.

I also think that people would not want to play as much when they realized how young the vast majority of players are in the game. Just the thought being required to be in voicechat to get into the only pug party in a town and having to listen to all those prepubescent premadonnas try to order me around makes my skin crawl.

I think I will stick with my heros regardless of what NC Soft does.

j_unit66

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

team love [kiSu]

W/

would voip not cause even more lag than we already get?

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chunk
Just the thought being required to be in voicechat to get into the only pug party in a town and having to listen to all those prepubescent premadonnas try to order me around makes my skin crawl.
I deeply hate that, that is sad, really SAD; I am 30 years old, and I left all guilds for that reason; I am now without guild; Immaturity is just intolerable for me now (happening in my real life too)

Lord-UWR

Lord-UWR

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Fiction We Live In [FaKe]

W/R

Well, if you are over 21 years old, you shouldn't even play GW. You should get a life for goodness' sake. Ok, just a little over reaction. But seriously, get a life.

Just kidding. However, it is simply an inevideble fact that a LOT of games are indeed played by people under 17. And there is nothing no one can do about it other than to deal with it.

Lord Dobo

Lord Dobo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Arizona

The Unseen Hand Of Fate [fate]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord-UWR
Well, if you are over 21 years old, you shouldn't even play GW. You should get a life for goodness' sake. Ok, just a little over reaction. But seriously, get a life.

Just kidding. However, it is simply an inevideble fact that a LOT of games are indeed played by people under 17. And there is nothing no one can do about it other than to deal with it.
I know you are joking here, in general, but I don't know how much of this statement I can support. A lot of us grew up playing the old atari, and later, nintendo games. And as we grew older, we got better paying jobs and maintained interest in our childhood love of electronic entertainment. I think most of these types of games are actually aimed higher than most think.

I've actually found that most gaming magazines actually have a target audience in the mid to late 20's (found out through the editor's notes and letters pages of various magazines.) That suggests that most games might be trying to get the dollars of those with more earning potential and long ingrained habits.

I admit, I could be wrong, who really knows. Teens have no real bills yet, and can easily waste money, but at the same time, they make very little.

Tiny Biscuit

Tiny Biscuit

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

Hey, why are you all so much turned sour ?

Pandora's box

Pandora's box

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Netherlands

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiny Biscuit
Hey, why are you all so much turned sour ?
I guess a lot of players grew up with George Orwell's 1984 hehe. A community where people can deny access to all kinds of services, just by looking at a webcam or listening to someones voice... Awww! I'm afraid kids who are growing up now will never understand how important privacy is, or used to be. It's very understandable that a lot of players are worried that teamspeak in the end will become a filter: If you don't use it, you are OUT!

Yol

Yol

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

GameAmp Guides [AMP]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redfeather1975
Am I reading it all wrong?
Is this just talking into a microphone and the computer typing out text according to what you are saying?
We wouldn't be hearing their voices, just seeing text in the chat box.
I hope so....an end to all that "wtf, lol, lawl, zomg, ffs" rubbish....hopefully it'll be a blow to spammers as well....

It would make sense to have it as part of team channel, guild channel, alliance channel....I wouldn't want it on local or trade unless there was a filter option.

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chunk
#1. It won't be free.

#2. It not be for anything other than party chat.

#3. It will be laggier and of lower quality than TS and Vent.

#4. Its already too late for Guild Wars.


I recommend that they perfect the voicechat system for the next MMORPG they release.

I also think that people would not want to play as much when they realized how young the vast majority of players are in the game. Just the thought being required to be in voicechat to get into the only pug party in a town and having to listen to all those prepubescent premadonnas try to order me around makes my skin crawl.

I think I will stick with my heros regardless of what NC Soft does.
Unless you work for NCSoft, you don't know jack.

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord-UWR
Well, if you are over 21 years old, you shouldn't even play GW. You should get a life for goodness' sake. Ok, just a little over reaction. But seriously, get a life.

Just kidding. However, it is simply an inevideble fact that a LOT of games are indeed played by people under 17. And there is nothing no one can do about it other than to deal with it.
GW is perfect for people "with a life", aka. make a PvP character and go arenas! also MMORPGs are perfect for play at retirement ages BTW, play video games is too good that I don't expect leaving it never ever forever!

Oh! almost forget, there are guilds only for +30 years people, I myself know three.

Tydra

Tydra

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord-UWR
Well, if you are over 21 years old, you shouldn't even play GW. You should get a life for goodness' sake. Ok, just a little over reaction. But seriously, get a life.
playing games isn't just for kids ... you are never too old to play games IMO

Tydra

Tydra

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

i know this might be slightly off-topic, but i wanted to bring it up anyways, see if anybody has an explanation and can enlighten me
Quote:
Originally Posted by Retribution X
Yeah, Well, Turning down the graphics and sound do absolutly nothing to the internet speed.
i noticed something like that aswell ... for example, i turned my music totally down, but that doesn't mean its "off" like one would expect, but it's just very low volume. so it's actually still running in the background (when i plug in headphones i can stil hear it, even when the slider is totally to the left). and nightfall has the annoying feature that the music changes dramatically when you enter a fight. the big coincidence: each time i enter a fight i lag to hell (my comp and conn are super-b, no problems there). does it have to do with the fight itself or with the damn music in the background that is adapting to the fight?!
i wish there was an off/on button for music; not just the volume itself, but a total shut-down of the music.

oh and btw: i don't like the idea of voice chat either, vent/ts do their job well enough

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tydra
i know this might be slightly off-topic, but .....
...i wish there was an off/on button for music; not just the volume itself, but a total shut-down of the music.
Don't worry, this is one of the most off-topic topic I had read. About music, I know that, GW don't turn off music, I know another games just don't play the MP3 (or whatever) when you put music volume at zero (at left), and save resources doing that (really turning off the music), not the case with GW.

Tydra

Tydra

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by NeHoMaR
Don't worry, this is one of the most off-topic topic I had read. About music, I know that, GW don't turn off music, I know another games just don't play the MP3 (or whatever) when you put music volume at zero (at left), and save resources doing that (really turning off the music), not the case with GW.
awww crap wish they could change that ^^

Lord-UWR

Lord-UWR

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Fiction We Live In [FaKe]

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by You just got tomahawked
The same pros that balance Discord, channeling, and made 6-man HA. kk
Well you got your wish: Discord, Channeling, and many other HIGH damage dealing skills got nerfed...

Now if they could only make HA 7v7...