Asura Mini Pet

Stemnin

Stemnin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/Me

Anet employees watch too much stargate.. not that that's a bad thing .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asuran

Wilhelm

Wilhelm

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Canada eh

looking for mature, luxon pvx guild

Mo/

Seems like that things is gonna steal my underwear.

The Real Roy Keane

The Real Roy Keane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Dublin, Ireland

Those Asura things look unbelievably annoying, they better not become a playable race..

TabascoSauce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Virginia, US

TFgt

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein
I have task for you:

Make picture with 3 WoW nonhuman races (Tauren, Gnome, Night Elf), 3 GW races (Tengu, Charr, Dwarf) and Asura (maybe Jar Jar too).

Give it to person that knows :nothing: about WoW and GW and ask him to put pictures to 2 groups depending on what goes with what.

Tell us results.
Bingo. Exactly! Kudos to you, for such an astute observation as to how this character does not fit in Guild Wars.

I altered his quote slightly, I edited out his veiled cussing.

To add insult to injury, I'll quote Meat Axe, a vociferous defender of the thing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Meat Axe
I think a lot of what is bothering most people is the fact that this thing is very different from what anyone has seen in GW so far. It makes people think that the whole game is going to change to suit these creatures, and change is bad and scary.
Like the GEICO Commercials say, you cannot speak for me. I am the one arguing in other threads to change the game for the better, and you are one of the many detractors who say "change is bad mmmmmkay cause its ok the way it is now", so this really tickles me pink, and I will quote you on this every time we cross paths again about changing the game. Really.

A much more accurate and all-around better way to phrase your statement would be to say:

"..this concept creature may suffer the same fate as Jar-Jar Binks, who also was introduced with the best of intentions and is also masterfully drawn and animated, but is intended for a target audience incompatible with the majority of viewers who were/are adult and expected an adult set of characters in an adult set of situations."

Of course we do not expect a cutesy critter. When I am playing a Necromancer raising the dead and slaying liches and gods, it kind of breaks the immersion to see something from Nikelodeon, mmmmmmmkay?

Thx!
TabascoSauce

Torikae

Torikae

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

UK

Rt/

I like it.
And people need to stop thinking they speak for the entire playerbase. (directed at this thread at a whole, no individuals).
Change can be good or bad.
Let's wait and see.

grottoftl

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

just saw the pic of this creature today and whats the big deal? I dont understand why a bunch posters are bothered by the look of this thing. its sorta pathetic and cmon its a computer game.

one more thing I like to add: don't judge a book by its cover

Haijiibirdhead

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

None

R/Mo

1 - That minipet looks terrible.
2 - Wont guild wars 2 make guild wars 1 totally obselete? seeing that you probably cant transfer your characters or weapons over.

if so that means the effort ppl are putting into guild wars 1 is kinda pointless isnt it? seems that way to me anyway.

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

Geezus and people are STILL whining about the minipet. And I see some of them have posted more than a few times complaining about it. Don't like it? That's fine. But why keep coming back to whine over and over about it?

sindex

sindex

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

California

Swords of Night & Day [SWRD]

When I look at this thing one thing comes to mind: Zelda universe.

Durik Lakmor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Missouri

Pearl of Great Price

R/Mo

OMG the end of the world a cute minipet.....

wow, just wow this proves that this community will argue/whine/moan about ANYTHING.

Domino

Domino

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Houston

A/Rt

The sequel will follow the theme of Prophecies and the shiverpeaks, if it's titled "Eye of the North"

don't get uptight people...

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by TabascoSauce
"..this concept creature may suffer the same fate as Jar-Jar Binks, who also was introduced with the best of intentions and is also masterfully drawn and animated, but is intended for a target audience incompatible with the majority of viewers who were/are adult and expected an adult set of characters in an adult set of situations."

Of course we do not expect a cutesy critter. When I am playing a Necromancer raising the dead and slaying liches and gods, it kind of breaks the immersion to see something from Nikelodeon, mmmmmmmkay?

Thx!
TabascoSauce
And even though we have thousands of necromancers who look like 15 year old little girls, a silly little creature is too cute for us. None of our characters should be looking the way they are, if they are running around killing hordes of demons and conquering gods.

Its a fantasy game, there are no rules about what can or cannot appear in a fantasy game, and there certainly aren't any rules about how cute a character in the game can be.

Does it break the immersion for you to see tiny naked monks with dragon masks on running into battle? Why aren't you protesting about all the cute masks we get for holidays? Or the candy cane weapons? Kind of breaks the immersion to be fighting with a large chunk of candy doesn't it?

There really aren't any valid reasons for this creature to not be in Guild Wars.

Cute certainly isn't one of them.

Z'HA'DUM

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

E/Me

oh noes not another minipet!

Havre Fras

Havre Fras

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/Me

This thing is even too horrible for it to be in WoW! My god!

DOCB22

DOCB22

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

[SGC]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stemnin
Anet employees watch too much stargate.. not that that's a bad thing .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asuran

this is a better SG-1 site
http://gateworld.net/omnipedia/races.../asurans.shtml

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

You can't assume they got the name from stargate, it could also be from.... the dictionary.

Meat Axe

Meat Axe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Brisbane, Australia

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by TabascoSauce
Like the GEICO Commercials say, you cannot speak for me. I am the one arguing in other threads to change the game for the better, and you are one of the many detractors who say "change is bad mmmmmkay cause its ok the way it is now", so this really tickles me pink, and I will quote you on this every time we cross paths again about changing the game. Really.

A much more accurate and all-around better way to phrase your statement would be to say:

"..this concept creature may suffer the same fate as Jar-Jar Binks, who also was introduced with the best of intentions and is also masterfully drawn and animated, but is intended for a target audience incompatible with the majority of viewers who were/are adult and expected an adult set of characters in an adult set of situations."

Of course we do not expect a cutesy critter. When I am playing a Necromancer raising the dead and slaying liches and gods, it kind of breaks the immersion to see something from Nikelodeon, mmmmmmmkay?

Thx!
TabascoSauce
Wow, I apparently have a stalker. I don't know whether to be flattered or unplug my internet and make sure never to go near any windows again.

Basically, what you're saying is that since I disagreed with some of the ridiculous ideas posted on here, I am scared of change? So why would I go out and buy all the games if I wanted them to stay the same as when the first one was released? I admit that I do disagree with a lot of the suggestions on this forum, but not because I'm scared of change, but because I'm scared of the game becoming a joke.

I'm assuming that you noticed my posts in that discussion about how to make it easier to play through the games with more than a couple of characters. Now, if you had of read some of my posts properly, one of the last ones I made was a suggestion that was a compromise. I would quote it, but I really can't be bothered finding it.

I'm also surprised you didn't quote wikipedia at me, since that seems to be your specialty.

Now, back on topic, I don't see how this creature wouldn't fit into the game. We have bird creatures (Tengu), feline creatures (Charr), and now we're getting a marsupial creature (Asura). Also, it obviously dwells underground, and this creature has all the characteristics of underground-dwellers from real life (primarily I'm thinking of bat ears and eyes of some nocturnal creature). These features added together do look cutesy. But that doesn't mean it doesn't belong to the GW world. It's from a different part of the world, so of course it's going to look different.

Also, we already have a lot of cutesy things in the game. Elf tonics anyone? I didn't see anyone saying that the addition of those were going to lead to the end of world. What about Moa birds? They remind me of Chocobos from FF, only without the annoying music. Those are pretty cutesy... until they start pecking your eyes out, anyway. I guess we need to remove Oink, and the pre searing rabbit, and that quest with the rabbits from the start of Factions. Because all of those are too cutesy for the game, apparently. Apparently, all we want in the game is big monsters that we can kill, and the more traditional races. The dwarves can stay, because they're traditional, but I want those Charr out! They're too original to be in a fantasy game.

Oh, and don't forget about Norgu. His antics don't belong in this game. He's too jolly, so get him out!

The main reason I like this little guy is because he isn't traditional. I mean, they could have added Halflings in instead, but in my mind they're just as cutesy, but more overused.

But despite all this, people are still gonna argue. There's no stopping that with reasoning. People have different opinions, and I respect that. So here's the deal: If you don't like the little critter, don't get one. It's as simple as that. Don't argue that this should be removed from the game, because some people do actually like it. You have to compromise. You can't have everything your way, because then you'd be the only one playing the game.

-Dullahan-

-Dullahan-

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

We Have Max[dP]

Mo/

Quote:
We fear change
...good times, excellent....

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

Just go to the Floating Mosque topic and look at the links showing the Anet artists concept works. That's not cartoony at all. They all love very detailed and realistic looking fantasy imagery. I imagine the cartooness of the creature was a huge diversion from what they normally like doing.
There's no way the artists at Anet would want to go the cartoony route over all the incredibly cool concepts they've sketched.

Rhedd

Rhedd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

You ever have to clean up after a Moa bird?

True Solunastra [SLA] Profession: Moa Wrangler

I'm really not against the little guy, I kind of like him, but I still understand why this thread continues to be a hot debate.

Two things about "cute"...

Firstly, we (all nationalities) have a subculture of "anti-cute". You can see it on these forums quite clearly, as most of the loudest opponents of the Asura have forum names reminiscent of crying angels, dark, goth-y avatars, and characters that are Necros, Assassins, or some combination of the two. Regardless of what you think about this subculture, it is very prevalent in online communities, including GW, and so it shouldn't come as a big surprise to anyone that a large percentage of gamers are going to HATE anything "cute".

Secondly, cute is like love; you can't force it. If you try, it's just hideous.

As has been pointed out, there are a lot of things already in GW that are cute. On my personal list of adorable GW creatures are Moas, Rotwallows, Siege Turtles, Rollerbeetles, and Dolyaks. Note that these things never tried to be cute, they just are. Heck, you might even disagree and think they're horrible. Cute is a personal opinion.

We all love Gwen. Gwen is cute. Gwen also showed up at the end of beta and flamed everyone into ash. That's the real reason we love her so much, because of the contrast. Do you think she'd be nearly so well-loved if she did nothing but skip around, sing cute songs, get dizzy and fall down, and giggle?

So, this Asura thing... It just seems, based on the nearly non-existent available evidence, that the little guy is just trying too damned hard.

If he turns out to be a face-eating monster like Gwen, then we might love him. If, instead, he skips around, makes baby noises, and grins sheepishly, people are going to hate him. Why? Because the cuteness will be forced down our throats, not allowed to happen naturally, and nobody likes that.

Buster

Buster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Elona

Clan Eternal Legion

D/W

This minipet looks way cool. I think I'll get it, infact I know I will cause it looks so much cooler than the other minipets. It doesn't look anything like a cartoon or anime ! It actually looks more realistic than any of the other minipets. As far as a playable race I doubt it, we have char,jades,varesh and dragon mnipets and do you see them being a playable race ? No ! So why in the world would you even think it would be ? A little common sense would help

Don't know about some but I think a much needed look and change is needed in GW. Tired of Char,Tengu,Dwarves, Imps,Oak trees, more imps, more Char, get my point ? Very repetitious and boring. The whiners and complainers would rather have 50 chapters of tengu and dwarves but oh yes my little complainers out there change is indeed coming and it will most certainly be a breath of fresh air for a change

jrista

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Colorado

Gypsy Nomads [EiO]

Mo/

I love him. I'm going to get him just so I can freak people out with my anus-ugly mini creature from hell.

If only he had fangs.....no wait....if only his ears had fangs....

Fire Rm

Fire Rm

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Israel

All The Ectos Are [GoNe]

E/Mo

oh shoot |:
im from israel, we dont get this magazine here -_-
guss ill have to lose another 50K for a magazine pet...

Graywing

Graywing

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Mongoose United

W/Me

Hm, just takes a change in its facial expression to make it look "evil", adjust some color and add some more detail and it even gets worse...

So quit complaining about it's "cuteness" factor :P

SayerMonster

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2007

Atlanta, GA

Legion of Doom

E/Me

I like the fangs idea. Maybe when it smiles, it has horrible long teeth or something. Like the vampire bunny, Bunnicula.

Kuya B

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Graywing
Hm, just takes a change in its facial expression to make it look "evil", adjust some color and add some more detail and it even gets worse...

So quit complaining about it's "cuteness" factor :P
Haha, I like that. Now it's evil enough to be cute.

jrista

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Colorado

Gypsy Nomads [EiO]

Mo/

I'll get him even if he doesn't have fangs. He's already become quite the novelty, and he is definitely unique.

I like the "evil" version...very entertaining.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

Looks like that little alien thing the Robinson family took in as a pet in the Lost in Space movie. I think it looks pathetic.

icymanipulator

icymanipulator

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

This thread is still open? I figured half of you would be out farming the 50k+ you'll need for the mini and the other half would be getting white knuckles in anticipation for your dozen magazine copies (keys).

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/81337


here you guys go for a laugh. you'll have to click watch the movie part have a good laugh. escpecially the ones that like H.P. Lovecraft

switch what it is with the Asura mini pet.


Zappa

Zappa

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Portugal.

Lol O_o
I don't need it all for myself, and I don't remember where I said that, but whatever, lol.

Master Sword Keeper

Master Sword Keeper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dead Isle

Farmers Of Woe [FoW]

W/

Imagery is fake people dont get caught up...Look closer and notice derelict pixels in the warrior's face and minipets arms.

This is a fake photoshop hoax.

Marth Reynolds

Marth Reynolds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

The Lore Enforcers

Me/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Sword Keeper
Imagery is fake people dont get caught up...Look closer and notice derelict pixels in the warrior's face and minipets arms.

This is a fake photoshop hoax.
LOL, ahem it's on the official guild wars page chap

it's safe to say it ain't a hoax

www.guildwars.com in case you were wondering

Edit: Typo -_-

allience

allience

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/Me

DOBBY LOVES MASTER POTTER!!

it's a damn ugly creature and doesn't seem to blend well with gw style :/
i hope it's not gonna be the new playable race...

Shakti

Shakti

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Home...

Vier Reiter [Vier]

Dead horse in corner, quick, everybody kick it --------->

28 pages later aren't we done yet? Some people love it, some hate it, some see it as the downfall of GW, some want to train a fleet of them to bite people's ankles and stage a coux.........oh wait, that was just me

Kali Canaan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Folkestone, Kent , England

[TIGV] The Imperial Guards of Vabbi

W/

personally i cant wait to ge tmy cute lil companion ^^

stuntharley

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Critical Chop [cC]

W/

I like this mini pet, its different =)

Neriandal Freit

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakti
Dead horse in corner, quick, everybody kick it --------->

28 pages later aren't we done yet? Some people love it, some hate it, some see it as the downfall of GW, some want to train a fleet of them to bite people's ankles and stage a coux.........oh wait, that was just me
You will notice on this forum a lot of newer players (at least, subscribers to this forum) seem to want to kick dead horses quiet often.

There is still a topic, and I won't mention the name, that is almost four months old now and people are still opening this topic up 2 to 4 weeks later, get a beat of life out of it, only to watch it die once more.

Edit: But, I must agree that it is a very ugly mini-pet. And! I do hope that IF there are playable races (and, I pray there isn't), that this isn't one of them. I do not want to see these creatures in 15k Hydromancer armor.

Jaythen Tyradel

Jaythen Tyradel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

I could care less whether this mini pet LOOKS cute or not. I am planning on getting it.

However, if the mini pet reflects a new character in the GW universe and the Asura's mannerism is that of Dobby, Stich, Jar Jar Binks, or any such overly cutesy/comic relief type roll...I would start asking to have bonfires in towns so we could throw them in...
*Selling charred Asura remains!!!*

MirageMaster

MirageMaster

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2007

EU

Its ugly and looks too stupid, noway i am getting this one.