2 days in chinese server open Beta test
undeadgun
i just asked my guild leader in GW chinese server, there is a confirmation that on chinese The 9 web site that we will keep what we get in open beta test.
wsmcasey
Rank 3 in 19 hours?? Wow, they must have sucked something aweful in HA!
wongba
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Btw 109 continuous wins. from 5 am. till 17 pm. it's not me..
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undeadgun
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Originally Posted by wongba
interesting pic. so even tho they only have prophecies, they still see factions arena maps. this might indicate that they will still be able to play w/ the rest of the world. if they were going to be separated from everyone else, u'd think anet would keep other chapter content out of the prophecies release.
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Former Ruling
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Originally Posted by wongba
interesting pic. so even tho they only have prophecies, they still see factions arena maps. this might indicate that they will still be able to play w/ the rest of the world. if they were going to be separated from everyone else, u'd think anet would keep other chapter content out of the prophecies release.
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Anyway, Westerners need not wrory about how closed Chinese servers are or anything... Some people like to blow the Chinese situation out of proportion alittle.
unknown entity
Regarding whether Chinese server will be independent/separate or not - Again, Japanese open beta's case.
Those on JP server could move to international districts during beta. And RA/TA/HA matchings were made globally. I remember that EU/AM/KR HAers were pleased to earn free fame from JP noobs during JP PvP beta period.
This isn't concrete evidence, but if you can't move to international districts NOW, it's highly unlikely that Chinese server would be connected to the rest of GW world.
In this case, favor of the gods might be upon Chinese server 24/7.
Those on JP server could move to international districts during beta. And RA/TA/HA matchings were made globally. I remember that EU/AM/KR HAers were pleased to earn free fame from JP noobs during JP PvP beta period.
This isn't concrete evidence, but if you can't move to international districts NOW, it's highly unlikely that Chinese server would be connected to the rest of GW world.
In this case, favor of the gods might be upon Chinese server 24/7.
wongba
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Originally Posted by Former Ruling
But Arena Maps aren't "Factions content" - All new maps are globally added (You don't need Factions to fight in a factions style TA map, etc)
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Priest Of Sin
Hmm... China enters global tourny...
Japan is already in...
As is Taiwan...
America has no good players cuz they switched to europe...
So it'll be a battle between china+japan+taiwan 90% of the time... maybe Korea thrown in there... Europe gets smashed cuz we all know China will dominate... uhm..
oh good god.
Btw China? Get with the times... we're not all evil here! (just the US, we bomb peeps for no good reason)
Japan is already in...
As is Taiwan...
America has no good players cuz they switched to europe...
So it'll be a battle between china+japan+taiwan 90% of the time... maybe Korea thrown in there... Europe gets smashed cuz we all know China will dominate... uhm..
oh good god.
Btw China? Get with the times... we're not all evil here! (just the US, we bomb peeps for no good reason)
undeadgun
No No No, i know u all are good ppl, nice players, i am here just wanna to know what you guys think bout the future of the GW in China 
Thallandor
Regarding China being isolated from the rest of the world servers and how favor might work for them, i have may have a guess.
There may be a chance that the favor system for access for FoW and UW will be removed and replaced with something else once GW for China goes live. Either that or GW China will have their own system of how favor for access to UW or FoW will work.
But personally i wont worry too much about the Local mainland farmers on The 9 servers, its much more profitable to sell egold to other countries such as the US and EU for the higher profits from exchange rates than to sell within the local online markets which may be larger with a lower profit margin.
But seening how most chinese players will burn through the content in less than a few weeks and start to realise that unless you like to "PvP" its all just about playing online dress up game with the PvE over time. This will cause many hardcore players to leave to more "profitable" grinder games or back to WoW or MU. Not to mention, GW is already a game that is close to 2 years old, think about it.
There may be a chance that the favor system for access for FoW and UW will be removed and replaced with something else once GW for China goes live. Either that or GW China will have their own system of how favor for access to UW or FoW will work.
But personally i wont worry too much about the Local mainland farmers on The 9 servers, its much more profitable to sell egold to other countries such as the US and EU for the higher profits from exchange rates than to sell within the local online markets which may be larger with a lower profit margin.
But seening how most chinese players will burn through the content in less than a few weeks and start to realise that unless you like to "PvP" its all just about playing online dress up game with the PvE over time. This will cause many hardcore players to leave to more "profitable" grinder games or back to WoW or MU. Not to mention, GW is already a game that is close to 2 years old, think about it.
Cataclysm
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Regarding China being isolated from the rest of the world servers and how favor might work for them, i have may have a guess.
There may be a chance that the favor system for access for FoW and UW will be removed and replaced with something else once GW for China goes live. Either that or GW China will have their own system of how favor for access to UW or FoW will work. But personally i wont worry too much about the Local mainland farmers on The 9 servers, its much more profitable to sell egold to other countries such as the US and EU for the higher profits from exchange rates than to sell within the local online markets which may be larger with a lower profit margin. But seening how most chinese players will burn through the content in less than a few weeks and start to realise that unless you like to "PvP" its all just about playing online dress up game with the PvE over time. This will cause many hardcore players to leave to more "profitable" grinder games or back to WoW or MU. Not to mention, GW is already a game that is close to 2 years old, think about it. |
Qinghai has won a battle in the Hall of Heroes. To take the favor of the gods favor from Guangdong, Qinghai must win 4 more times.
Goodness knows there's enough people in China to pull this off
Thallandor
lol @ Cataclysm, i hope you are not serious. I seriously doubt they will do that.
undeadgun
man, if they do that, i doubt there wont be many ppl into guild wars in China.
Saphrium
I think it is actually a very practical approach, but not by provinces, because the north and south western region of China are basically empty compare to the coast lines. So I would think Northern China VS Southern China would work.
undeadgun
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Originally Posted by Thallandor
Regarding China being isolated from the rest of the world servers and how favor might work for them, i have may have a guess.
There may be a chance that the favor system for access for FoW and UW will be removed and replaced with something else once GW for China goes live. Either that or GW China will have their own system of how favor for access to UW or FoW will work. But personally i wont worry too much about the Local mainland farmers on The 9 servers, its much more profitable to sell egold to other countries such as the US and EU for the higher profits from exchange rates than to sell within the local online markets which may be larger with a lower profit margin. But seening how most chinese players will burn through the content in less than a few weeks and start to realise that unless you like to "PvP" its all just about playing online dress up game with the PvE over time. This will cause many hardcore players to leave to more "profitable" grinder games or back to WoW or MU. Not to mention, GW is already a game that is close to 2 years old, think about it. |
, i can see some really seriouse problems that you were talking bout in Chinese MMORPG are the truth. However, been playing 3 days now in chinese server, i ve seen that large amount of ppl that do really enjoy the PvP part of the GW. I dont know cuz if its a kinda new idea for em or w/e, but i really do hope they can keep it up and i beleive that china will have some of the best players in the world soon.
Thallandor
I would like to remind some of our forumers here that though you might think China is populous, the distribution of wealth is geo-politically motivated. Hence despite belief, there are some areas that cant even afford medication least spend time out of the fields to play a computer game. Online Gaming like in every country other than south korea (even so typically focused in seoul) is still an activity practised by a minority between an age group of 12 to maybe 30-45. Believe it or not, even if China has over 2-3 million gamers (concentrated in the wealthier cities) they will still belong to a minority of the population of China.
If you are going to make part of China play PvP among themselves, you literally will basically just have a few cities with enough gamer base playing against each other. Do you think that this model will work in the US(in a country with much better wealth distribution and per capital income) should it's servers be isolated from the world? If not what makes you think it would work in China?
If you are going to make part of China play PvP among themselves, you literally will basically just have a few cities with enough gamer base playing against each other. Do you think that this model will work in the US(in a country with much better wealth distribution and per capital income) should it's servers be isolated from the world? If not what makes you think it would work in China?
undeadgun
i can see your points, but i do beleive china can handle GW, also i do beleive there will be a decent amount of ppl that are in better developed provice/city pay to play GW. just like you said MU and WoW, if they can afford those, how couldnt they afford GW?
Thallandor
undeadgun, my previous post wasnt targeted at you or gamers in China. Poverty exist as a fact in every country, i wasnt trying to paint over everyone there in China or affordablity of GW.
First problem now i suppose which is in question is how PvP and HoH will be handle in regards to favor and UW/FoW access will be handled in GW China.
Secondly, you mention GW is on a Pay to play model? A good deal of discussion was made here and elsewhere that GW is not worth a P2P form of subscription based model and if this is true then i dont think GW will do very well in China due to simple reason of boredom. I bought all three chapters of the game on the F2P model and i am bored, do you think i would continue to play it if it was a P2P? Even now our gamer population are on the decline with players leaving this game all the time. GW is currently riding on hype more than anything else and what will happen when most players reached level 20, with green weapons and 15k armour and realise that the hours they put in (Paid to play) to build their characters are no better than those players who instantly create perfect characters in PvP. Practically the PvE would bombed once they understand this and the only thing to do is to replay the game again and again with the "new" professions. Will you pay to play such a game?
It was not surprising that GW did not do well in both Tawian and Japan which are large gaming hubs themselves. I was not optimistic from the start with GW in China.
First problem now i suppose which is in question is how PvP and HoH will be handle in regards to favor and UW/FoW access will be handled in GW China.
Secondly, you mention GW is on a Pay to play model? A good deal of discussion was made here and elsewhere that GW is not worth a P2P form of subscription based model and if this is true then i dont think GW will do very well in China due to simple reason of boredom. I bought all three chapters of the game on the F2P model and i am bored, do you think i would continue to play it if it was a P2P? Even now our gamer population are on the decline with players leaving this game all the time. GW is currently riding on hype more than anything else and what will happen when most players reached level 20, with green weapons and 15k armour and realise that the hours they put in (Paid to play) to build their characters are no better than those players who instantly create perfect characters in PvP. Practically the PvE would bombed once they understand this and the only thing to do is to replay the game again and again with the "new" professions. Will you pay to play such a game?
It was not surprising that GW did not do well in both Tawian and Japan which are large gaming hubs themselves. I was not optimistic from the start with GW in China.
lucifer_uk
Who cares as long as the current servers stay ever popular it won't effect us.
undeadgun
yes, i am pretty sure u can choose between P2P or buy the copy of the game(which most of the ppl wont be able to, especailly students).
Thallandor
How much is it to buy a copy of GW in China? i am guessing around 400-500RMB. And the hourly charge to P2P? any idea yet from the beta.
undeadgun
srry for the late response, was in GvG, umm think is 90RMB for a month for P2P, but have no idea how much is copy cost
Taala
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whatever is done on the chinese version wouldn't affect everyone else's version.
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While they have their own server to play in, we still use the same client.
lightblade
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Wrong! The9 (GW publisher in China), had already announced GW China will link to international district. There are polls on varies Chinese GW fansites about the lag people are getting for connecting from China to US server.
China is not the same as 10 years ago. You should plan your next vacation in China.
Yes! The beta had been a success. There were 200+ districts at pre-searing Ascalon on the first day of beta test. Now it's about 60.
The only law in China is that they restrict foreign investors investing in China. Because that's a way of economic control.
Yes...that's because it's open beta, and 99.9% of the people there are completely new to the game.
The way of charging has yet to reach a final decision.
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afaik because of China's censorship laws, they'll be on a completely separate server from us since they don't want their citizens possibly hearing on banned subjects from other continents.
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So I believe the strict laws from China mean that Chinese PvP/GvG will be totally seperate.
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China's just trying to protect its citizens from the evils of the rest of the world.....
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China is not the same as 10 years ago. You should plan your next vacation in China.
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I have a question about the Chinese servers, do they look active? Does it look like the beta has been a success?
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Originally Posted by wsmcasey
Rank 3 in 19 hours?? Wow, they must have sucked something aweful in HA!
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Originally Posted by Thallandor
How much is it to buy a copy of GW in China? i am guessing around 400-500RMB. And the hourly charge to P2P? any idea yet from the beta.
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Selket
19 hours for 180 fame is less than 10 fame an hour.
That's nothing.
That's nothing.
Eighty Five
I really hope China doesn't get seperated into a different server and seperated from the rest of the world, one of the reasons I enjoy Guild Wars is the 'one world' scenario with many players from around the world.
Also can anyone post more pics of the Chinese beta test
Also can anyone post more pics of the Chinese beta test
undeadgun
Jamison0071
Sorry noob question, but what is skill 5 in the first screenshot? I have never seen that skill picture before...
Thallandor
Thanks for the info Lightblade, good to know that China servers will be linked to the rest of the world. Very soon the international districts will be filled with gold/items sellers spamming their wares. GG roleplayers kiss your lonely districts goodbye.
@undeadgun: did i see someone selling Plat in your first screenshot and even giving out his messenger id and contact detail, he even advertised on a site with the same description saying hes selling gold to other players for real money for the long term.
http://bbs.book.sina.com.cn/?h=http%...id%3D4138&g=15
lol bannage and caught red handed with SS.
@undeadgun: did i see someone selling Plat in your first screenshot and even giving out his messenger id and contact detail, he even advertised on a site with the same description saying hes selling gold to other players for real money for the long term.
http://bbs.book.sina.com.cn/?h=http%...id%3D4138&g=15
lol bannage and caught red handed with SS.
undeadgun
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Sorry noob question, but what is skill 5 in the first screenshot? I have never seen that skill picture before...
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undeadgun
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Thanks for the info Lightblade, good to know that China servers will be linked to the rest of the world. Very soon the international districts will be filled with gold/items sellers spamming their wares. GG roleplayers kiss your lonely districts goodbye.
@undeadgun: did i see someone selling Plat in your first screenshot and even giving out his messenger id and contact detail, he even advertised on a site with the same description saying hes selling gold to other players for real money for the long term. http://bbs.book.sina.com.cn/?h=http%...id%3D4138&g=15 lol bannage and caught red handed with SS. |
LONGA
Thats explain why I saw lvl 15 Ele and lvl 3 Monk at Vizynah square mission a fewdays ago.That was quiet a rush.
DutchGun
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oh forgot to mention this thing b4, chinese server change the pic of some of the skills, anything that looks skeleton ish are change to another pic, i dont know why though
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Also, these special requirements would certainly explain why China current has its own areas to play - a slightly altered system still requires beta testing, and you can't exactly do that while connected to other live servers. There could be other requirements we aren't aware of.
Still, I do tend to agree, it would be neat if the Chinese players are part of the same game world eventually. Who knows if that will actually happen though...
NeHoMaR
Why the hell they make a BETA of a FINAL game released 2 year ago? 
Also, experienced chinese players will own that server!!! Wahaha!
Sadly my eyes are bigger! Wahaha!
Off-topic: Man, that screenshots are too big for a forum!
Also, experienced chinese players will own that server!!! Wahaha!
Off-topic: Man, that screenshots are too big for a forum!
k3mikal
welcome to gw mate!
Shanaeri Rynale
Hmm not sure about the linking. Sigils are more than 7K here, so maybe the traders are not linked.
If anyone is in china i'll buy 100 sigils from you and meet you in Int 1 we'll got 50/50 on the profits.. (joke)
If anyone is in china i'll buy 100 sigils from you and meet you in Int 1
we'll got 50/50 on the profits.. (joke)
Alleji
I thought chinese government completely banned killing other players in a game... how come they have PvP?
lightblade
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I thought chinese government completely banned killing other players in a game... how come they have PvP?
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zwei2stein
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I thought chinese government completely banned killing other players in a game... how come they have PvP?
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In china its illegal to engage in PvP in mmos only and only if you are underage (< 18 years old).
More precisely, children they cant have access to PvP where you are rewarded for player kills by some improvement of character (in GW its faction.).
undeadgun
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i too thought it but a bit of research (google, ftw!) got me this:
In china its illegal to engage in PvP in mmos only and only if you are underage (< 18 years old). More precisely, children they cant have access to PvP where you are rewarded for player kills by some improvement of character (in GW its faction.). |