Ranger as a Nuker and Tanker

To my knowledge, an experienced warrior can "tank" well and an experienced ele profession can "nuke" very well. It's a nickname given to them.

So.. how can ranger be either one of it?

Kind of like a monk can do 55hp and necro can do MM...

I mean c'mon anybody can nuke, take ele as second prof and what not, but it is given nickname to someone who's primary prof's is ele and tank who's primary prof is warrior who are best at it.

there's this ranger who thinks he can do both I was like, WHAT? lol... and that ranger wasnt joking, cause the ranger was sort of serious.. lol.

So I'm asking you guys here at guru, what you guys think. Because I wanna confirm my knowledge, if its right lols...

Rangers can use stances. They can use [skill]Barrage[/skill] for a nice AoE effect.

Oh wait..you mean what's his special ability? Traps,interruption, condition spreading...

Well rangers aren't the nuking type. Mainly cuz Expertise doesnt affect spells. I guess maybe a ranger could tank into an All ele mob. But thats rarely gonna happen. Yanman.be pretty much states it.

Traps, Conditions, and interrupts are best thing for a ranger.

lols, thanks you.

"echo mending" is an in-joke, that ranger was joking.

That being said, r/w can tank pretty well together with stances and a shield - they have pretty good armor and all, and r/rts with barrage + various weapon spells can do mass damage, but that isn't really nuking.

bow damage sucks balls compared to any other damage source in the game.
rangers have nice armor against elemental damage and some evade stances against melee. They could tank fairly well if they had to. Not nearly as well as a warrior ever could though.

No it doesn't. Granted, rangers can't do the damage ele's do, but they certainly can do their share of damage.

As far as a ranger nuking? I'm not sure can be done. Rangers don't have the necessary energy amount needed for nuking. A lot of of ele skills are 15 and 25 energy and rangers just don't have that kind to spare.

OK, it's better than wands.
Daggers, Swords, Axes, Scythes, Hammers and caster damage dealers all deal more dps than a bow.

"Echo Mending" was obviously a joke.

With that said Rangers can Tank quite well. As mentioned they have stances and traps that help enable them do this.
They also can utilize greater conflagaration which converts all damage to fire dmg, which can boost Rangers AL to 100.

So:

Greater Conflagaration
Whirling Defense
Throw Dirt
etc....

As for Nuking:

Barage + Splinter = quasi Nuke

Anet specifically writes in the Manuals that Bow damage is the stronger of the weapons. hands down, no mods etc. In fact, If you decide to use DPS, then a short bow and a Recurve bow can still generate higher amounts of damage DPS wise than say a sword. (With attributes or Strength, said weapon class, expertise and marksmanship at Attribute 12)

Its only when you start adding with skills, other attributes, weapon mods etc do the difference arise. But then again, when those differences show, thats when weapons become more specialized.

I dont agree with what you are saying because we have to look at all this mathematically AND Contextually. A Bow can wreak havoc if a ranger is standing on a ledge and the warrior has to run up, and around to get to him.

Specialization is the key word here. At base value, the moment you press space bar, the bow HAS to be the better weapon. And when you start adding skills etc, thats when the argument has to take into consideration CONTEXT, which you have not addressed. A Barrage Pet Ranger versus a pressure tank are so different that you cant just determine that one weapon is better based on ONE singular contextual instance. A War can spike with Evicerate etc. A ranger can spike with a multitude of Rit skills. You cant just say "Its better because of DPS." Then if it is, you have to bring the science into it - the control group is the BASE Value damage. The changes are the skills, location, tactics, strategy, attributes, armour, player type, weapon mods, time and movement.

Sing Toe

Ranger nuking wouldnt be nearly as effective as an Ele, even with a Fire/Earth split. Primary attributes (skill effectiveness), runes (skill level), and armor (subsequent energy) are what distinguish the classes. Any build that dosent utilize two of these three things isn't well thought out.

One time a War told me he could B/P. I asked him how many shots he could spam before he was out of energy. He said "Bout 4".

I ROFL'd!

Rangers own.