i think they do. here is my argument
in every event they hold (halloween, new years, st patricks day, etc) alcohol is a major part of that event. it drops and/or you can trade or buy it.
they have not 1 but 2 titles that requires your character stay drunk for hours on end (technically minutes but you can do the math).
how many people have you come across wanting to buy or sell alcohol so their characters can get drunk?
numerous children and people under the age of 21 play this game and see that it is OK to abuse alcohol.
the government currently regulates the sale, consumption, and advertising of controlled substances.
look...i understand this is just a game, but actions like this can and will influence people. i believe that ultimately it is up to parents to monitor the actions of their children, but does Anet not share in this responsibility?
i know i will get flamed for this so let me say a few more words.....
1. would you have any problem if monsters dropped packs of cigarettes and/or a smoking title was created?
2. no Anet does not condone killing people or monsters or whatever for loot. yes, most people are able to distinguish between real life and fantasy, but the abuse of alcohol blurrs that line.
now...this is what i want to know....
do you agree with my statement?
should anything be done about this?
is Anet at fault for anything? does the ESRB rating go far enough to protect children?
i believe that Anet can do more to protect our children from the devastating effects of alcohol abuse. will i stop playing the game because of it? no....i just choose not to engage in the binge drinking.
plz state your age when you reply. i believe that this will be a major factor in your viewpoint.
Does Anet promote alcohol abuse?
morimoto
Alleji
Yes, they do. Let's sue them for it.
Ulivious The Reaper
No i dont agree with your statement, if you can't seperate fantasy(in this case a game) from what you do in real life, then you my friend have a serious problem, doesn't the ESRB rating state on the game Teen for Fantasy violence and Alcohol Consumption? if you're not mentally capable to distinguish the two then dont play
age 15 :O
age 15 :O
sph0nz
1. Not everyone lives in America. Other countries don't care about drinking ages.
2. Kids in America drink when they're like 12 nowadays.
3. Maybe ANet should up the age requirement. Oh wait, I doubt that will do anything anyways. Kids will just get someone to buy it for them if they want.
I'm 19 and straightedge anyways.
2. Kids in America drink when they're like 12 nowadays.
3. Maybe ANet should up the age requirement. Oh wait, I doubt that will do anything anyways. Kids will just get someone to buy it for them if they want.
I'm 19 and straightedge anyways.
Shadow Kurd
Dooh!!, i'm still waiting on the day they bring Bacardi Cola in the game :P
Tetris L
Personally I'd be more concerned about the effects of gaming addiction than the dangers of virtual alcohol. GW itself can be a very addictive drug.
Cheers!
Cheers!
Giga Strike
i don't think there is a single mmorpg that doesn't have beer of some sort in it. In runescape there are several quests where ur character gets so hammered he gets kidney failure and i don't hear of any kids drinking because of that. i think GW is just being funny and continuing a tradition of alchohol in mmorpgs.
how in the world did u use that smiley?
how in the world did u use that smiley?
MSecorsky
Here's my thought...
If everyone, when they turned 15, learned how to brew beer there would be dramatically less alchohol abuse in the world. Ignorance breeds abuse whereas knowledge promotes intelligent use.
Trust me... when you've had good homebrew, you will no longer desire to get wasted on Bud Light. You learn to appreciate beer for it's taste, not the effects.
So no, I don't think they promote alchohol abuse by including alchohol.
I'm 42, btw.
If everyone, when they turned 15, learned how to brew beer there would be dramatically less alchohol abuse in the world. Ignorance breeds abuse whereas knowledge promotes intelligent use.
Trust me... when you've had good homebrew, you will no longer desire to get wasted on Bud Light. You learn to appreciate beer for it's taste, not the effects.
So no, I don't think they promote alchohol abuse by including alchohol.
I'm 42, btw.
GuildWiki Jamie
The game does include a sort of "warning", "excessive alcohol consumption will result in intoxication." but eh...
Runes Basstard
...Im 18 and im allowed to drink (Im from Germany)
dont forget GW is only a game.
dont forget GW is only a game.
MSecorsky
Oh, and I got my "Drinking Title" in real life.
Old Chicago's Wall of Fame... 100 different brands of beer consumed in OC's restaurants.
Old Chicago's Wall of Fame... 100 different brands of beer consumed in OC's restaurants.
EternalTempest
Disagree
I don't think GW can lead someone to abuse that you describe.
I don't think GW can lead someone to abuse that you describe.
Echodawg
I personally am hoping they will introduce brand specific adult beverages such as Wild Turkey, Guinness, etc. and allow you to order those drinks/cocktails from the "local bartender" in town. Too cool! 
MMSDome
Im in Wisconsin and under 21 you can drink as long as your with a parent.
I think your are a overreactant Liberal that is taking this to seriously. Kids know that in real life you shouldnt drink (yet everyone does in highschool anyway, its inevitable you will stop it) and they wont play a video game and think its telling them that drinking is cool. Its all in good fun so dont even bother trying to ruin something for everyone.
ADDED: This is like the case where a grandmother bought her grandson a copy of San Andreas and when she found out about the hot coffee mod she tried to sue the company that made the game. Wait a second... reqind a bit. Once she found out there was a bit of nudity (something hopefully most people will see in their lifetime assuming they will get married and want kids) she decided to sue. Excuse me but isnt killing people and gang fights and all that a little worse then a tad bit of skin?
About the whole influencing people to do things... Many religions (such as mine) forbid practicing magic as it is evil. Is Guild Wars promoting people to practice magic and when they are in fights have them cast spiteful spirit on their opponet so they whoop their butt. Ill let you answer that.
Im 17
I think your are a overreactant Liberal that is taking this to seriously. Kids know that in real life you shouldnt drink (yet everyone does in highschool anyway, its inevitable you will stop it) and they wont play a video game and think its telling them that drinking is cool. Its all in good fun so dont even bother trying to ruin something for everyone.
ADDED: This is like the case where a grandmother bought her grandson a copy of San Andreas and when she found out about the hot coffee mod she tried to sue the company that made the game. Wait a second... reqind a bit. Once she found out there was a bit of nudity (something hopefully most people will see in their lifetime assuming they will get married and want kids) she decided to sue. Excuse me but isnt killing people and gang fights and all that a little worse then a tad bit of skin?
About the whole influencing people to do things... Many religions (such as mine) forbid practicing magic as it is evil. Is Guild Wars promoting people to practice magic and when they are in fights have them cast spiteful spirit on their opponet so they whoop their butt. Ill let you answer that.
Im 17
Tetris L
If you are seriously concerned about you kids drinking (virtual) alcohol, but you are not concerned about them slaying (virtual) humans with (virtual) swords and other assorted tools of death, you've got issues.
Promoting alcohol?? What about promoting violence???
Promoting alcohol?? What about promoting violence???
[KotL]Mjolnir
Alcohol abuse = Natural Selection
No offence but you just worry about your children and no one elses. Oh, I'm 23 and can't stand most alcoholic beverages but I don't go around preaching about it.
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MSecorsky
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Im in Wisconsin and under 21 you can drink as long as your with a parent.
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Hey Sparky... I'm as liberal as they come, and I'll have my kids brewing beer before they start drinking. Knowledge is the strongest weapon against abuses like that.
Inde
Okay, I can't resist. I'm sorry, but when I saw this original discussion on Guild-Hall.net I came up with a great idea. Let's have prohibition in Guild Wars. Serious. Then let's make bootleggers. You have a quest you have to do to gather the parts to create your own still. That would be awesome.
Code=007
are you kidding right?
brokenmonkey
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ya ya!!! Cus since im 16, when I grow up, I am going to drink 5 hunters ales, and then 1 every minute from then on!!!!! OMG!!!! This is gonna be so fun!!!!!!!!!
Dumbest thread ever award.
ya ya!!! Cus since im 16, when I grow up, I am going to drink 5 hunters ales, and then 1 every minute from then on!!!!! OMG!!!! This is gonna be so fun!!!!!!!!!
Dumbest thread ever award.
fgarvin
Yes they do, without a doubt.
They also promote exploring, opening strang boxes found in the wilderness, identifying the objects found in those boxes as well as discovered on dead bodies and eating sweets.
Damn them and their subversive ways.
They also promote exploring, opening strang boxes found in the wilderness, identifying the objects found in those boxes as well as discovered on dead bodies and eating sweets.
Damn them and their subversive ways.
tripplesix
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i know i will get flamed for this so let me say a few more words.....
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i hope gaile doesnt post in this thread.....
NeHoMaR
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/start sarcasm
My friend, please stop seeing violent movies, because you can start killing people on the streets!!
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Scrimbul
Your character died of liver disease, didn't he. And this is the result.
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i think they do. here is my argument
in every event they hold (halloween, new years, st patricks day, etc) alcohol is a major part of that event. it drops and/or you can trade or buy it. they have not 1 but 2 titles that requires your character stay drunk for hours on end (technically minutes but you can do the math). how many people have you come across wanting to buy or sell alcohol so their characters can get drunk? numerous children and people under the age of 21 play this game and see that it is OK to abuse alcohol. the government currently regulates the sale, consumption, and advertising of controlled substances. look...i understand this is just a game, but actions like this can and will influence people. i believe that ultimately it is up to parents to monitor the actions of their children, but does Anet not share in this responsibility? i know i will get flamed for this so let me say a few more words..... 1. would you have any problem if monsters dropped packs of cigarettes and/or a smoking title was created? 2. no Anet does not condone killing people or monsters or whatever for loot. yes, most people are able to distinguish between real life and fantasy, but the abuse of alcohol blurrs that line. now...this is what i want to know.... do you agree with my statement? should anything be done about this? is Anet at fault for anything? does the ESRB rating go far enough to protect children? i believe that Anet can do more to protect our children from the devastating effects of alcohol abuse. will i stop playing the game because of it? no....i just choose not to engage in the binge drinking. plz state your age when you reply. i believe that this will be a major factor in your viewpoint. |
SlippyJack
I think this is a thread just to ignite a flaming war.
Plus it's minutes drunk not necessarily how much you drink. I mean, people try to do the zoning trick to get minutes not drunker... I think anet is trying to get kids addicted to minutes.... Pretty soon, you will see teenagers with four watches on each wrist...
How about the sugar track? Probably Anet knows a dentist who needed a few more patients.
Plus it's minutes drunk not necessarily how much you drink. I mean, people try to do the zoning trick to get minutes not drunker... I think anet is trying to get kids addicted to minutes.... Pretty soon, you will see teenagers with four watches on each wrist...
How about the sugar track? Probably Anet knows a dentist who needed a few more patients.
qazwersder
Better that they drink virtual alcohol than real alochol.
Etta
Close this thread please. And I'll drink to that.
Ouchie
And
what about those sweets - ahahaha - they are making us fat and have cavities
what about those sweets - ahahaha - they are making us fat and have cavities
makosi
I used to play the Grand Theft Auto series in which I stole cars, planes, boats, helicopters, and so on. I also picked up hookers, killed thousands of people, used all sorts of lethal weaponry from katanas to grenades to rocket launchers. I went on speeding sprees with a tank and squashed streets of people and jumped of buildings (which I accessed via a stoled jumbo jet) and I robbed banks.
Call me dull or boring but I haven't actually did any of the above in real life. My point is that computer games aren't all that influential and drinking virtual spiked eggnog has never made me attracted to alcoholism in any way.
Call me dull or boring but I haven't actually did any of the above in real life. My point is that computer games aren't all that influential and drinking virtual spiked eggnog has never made me attracted to alcoholism in any way.
Sir Skullcrasher
Drinking is fun, enough said!
raven214
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Okay, I can't resist. I'm sorry, but when I saw this original discussion on Guild-Hall.net I came up with a great idea. Let's have prohibition in Guild Wars. Serious. Then let's make bootleggers. You have a quest you have to do to gather the parts to create your own still. That would be awesome.
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Back on topic, I see no real connection between making your screen blurry and actually drinking -- certainly no more than between PvP and chasing someone around with a real sword. Also, the ESRB rating thing is there for a reason. Parents should know what their kids are doing, and "drinking" in a game should be one of the least of their concerns IMHO.
darktyco
I vote to immediately remove ALL alcohol from the game and replace all of these drinking activities with smoking hash.
Vinraith
Yup, it also promotes:
-Violence against Asians, since you're always killing Jade Knights and Am Fah
-Eating disorders, with the sugar rush title
-Animal abuse, training attack pets and killing all manner of wild life for no good reason
-Child labor, since you can force Gwen to follow you around and heal you
This is fun, anyone got any more?
-Violence against Asians, since you're always killing Jade Knights and Am Fah
-Eating disorders, with the sugar rush title
-Animal abuse, training attack pets and killing all manner of wild life for no good reason
-Child labor, since you can force Gwen to follow you around and heal you
This is fun, anyone got any more?
mikkel
Won't someone please think of the children?!
Inde
I know, I'm not helping but... Pfft, you are all missing the potentional. VOTE FOR PROHIBITION IN GUILD WARS! Who wouldn't want a Bootlegger title?! Create your own Stills! Find the best ingredients for your alcohol! Make beer, spirits and more!
makosi
-Female assassins are pro-ana... encouraging girls to be stick thin.
-Pyromancers encourage pyromania.
All I can think of now.
Edit: 'Crippled' is politically incorrect. It might cause us to offend those with mobility issues and disabilities.
-Pyromancers encourage pyromania.
All I can think of now.
Edit: 'Crippled' is politically incorrect. It might cause us to offend those with mobility issues and disabilities.
Jebus
I hate people who comment games like this.
blastm
No real brain cell, kidney, or Panda Bears were killed in the making of Guild Wars. ©
raven214
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Yup, it also promotes:
-Violence against Asians, since you're always killing Jade Knights and Am Fah -Eating disorders, with the sugar rush title -Animal abuse, training attack pets and killing all manner of wild life for no good reason -Child labor, since you can force Gwen to follow you around and heal you This is fun, anyone got any more? |
