99.99999....% of the time kids drink because the other kids they hang out with drink.
LOL @ Mikkel
Does Anet promote alcohol abuse?
Pete1975
If you drink because of a game you are a polution of the genepool.
99.99999....% of the time kids drink because the other kids they hang out with drink.
LOL @ Mikkel
99.99999....% of the time kids drink because the other kids they hang out with drink.
LOL @ Mikkel
skarkees
cmon this tread is to stupid to be true IMO.
you also kill something every minute so why make a connection with alcohol?
I understand what you mean but the beer and stuff is just a part of the game. For titles and stuff.
you also kill something every minute so why make a connection with alcohol?
I understand what you mean but the beer and stuff is just a part of the game. For titles and stuff.
Gwmaster
im 17..legal age to drink here is 18 but i started drinking with friends wen i was 15. People think that wen u drink you always gets wasted, thats false, even my parents agreed with me that wen i and my friends come home or we do some kind of party at the house we can drink alcohol as long as we don't abuse.
don't tell me that it isn't fun to take a beer or two wen you friends come home.
and imo only mentally retarded people would the the same has in a video game...so..unless your children are Rtards i think they are safe.
off topic: my lil brother is 8 years old and sometimes i play halo2 with him halo which is rated 17+...and i never ever heard my little bro saying that he wanted to shoot some1 in the head.
don't tell me that it isn't fun to take a beer or two wen you friends come home.
and imo only mentally retarded people would the the same has in a video game...so..unless your children are Rtards i think they are safe.
off topic: my lil brother is 8 years old and sometimes i play halo2 with him halo which is rated 17+...and i never ever heard my little bro saying that he wanted to shoot some1 in the head.
thunderstorm
of course they promote alcohol since Anet is hold by kronenbourg
younger u are familiar with it better the chance u will drink it later
younger u are familiar with it better the chance u will drink it later
Shakti
You can't be serious....?
Whether you approve or not, in the majority of societies around the world, alcohol is a huge part of celebrating. We also have a sweet tooth title, are they promoting obestity and diabetes as well? Or gambling?
GW also "promotes" the mass slaying of dead/demonic/giagantic/freaky creatures to get cool expensive items and gold, are they responsible for gangs of us running around slaying people we think are zombies?
NO because this is a G A M E. Not real. The game has female eles basically wearing tissue paper and beads. Are they promoting all girls to dress like...? Wait...don't answer that. :P
If you are unable to appreciate the difference between a game and reality see a specialist. If players underage are not able to, I firmly believe it is up to their PARENTS to act like PARENTS and know what they're playing. If their kids can't see the difference, it's up to them to put their foot down keep it down and get their kid some help. I could go on but most of us get it...
Before you claim age is a factor, I'm 31.
@ Indie I love the bootlegging idea and the still.....martinis ala M.A.S.H! 1920's speakeasys! I'll get the bathtub ...
Whether you approve or not, in the majority of societies around the world, alcohol is a huge part of celebrating. We also have a sweet tooth title, are they promoting obestity and diabetes as well? Or gambling?
GW also "promotes" the mass slaying of dead/demonic/giagantic/freaky creatures to get cool expensive items and gold, are they responsible for gangs of us running around slaying people we think are zombies?
NO because this is a G A M E. Not real. The game has female eles basically wearing tissue paper and beads. Are they promoting all girls to dress like...? Wait...don't answer that. :P
If you are unable to appreciate the difference between a game and reality see a specialist. If players underage are not able to, I firmly believe it is up to their PARENTS to act like PARENTS and know what they're playing. If their kids can't see the difference, it's up to them to put their foot down keep it down and get their kid some help. I could go on but most of us get it...
Before you claim age is a factor, I'm 31.
@ Indie I love the bootlegging idea and the still.....martinis ala M.A.S.H! 1920's speakeasys! I'll get the bathtub ...
Ouchie
oh noes now lock picks that can only lead to a life of crime
Aerials
Titles rated Teen (T) have content suitable for people ages 13 and up. Titles in this category may contain violent content, mild or strong language, and/or suggestive themes.
You sort of know what your buying when you buy the game
sindex
Unfortunately you’re turning to the wrong place for this problem. I am one of those people have an understanding of what the heck the industry is doing. Since the prohibition in the 1920 - 1933 here in the U.S.A., we lost the fight on alcohol abuse. The method in the way we carried it out though was a total wish- wash.
Ever since then the industry has grown bigger and much more powerful. However now we turn our attention to Obesity with fast food, and Cigarettes and cancer. The other two get incredible ad campaigns against them including some hefty taxing. They even want to give a rated “R” rating to movies who delve into pro-smoking, without showing the negative impacts.
The only thing you see as attacks on the industry is the casual “Don’t Drink and Drive” and MADD (mothers against drunk drivers). This proved highly improvable thanks to MADD’s first leader, who got caught for drinking and driving herself. The battle seems like a kind of imposable one since people count the now supposed positive effect of alcohol. However no one still likes the idea of an angry drunk.
As for myself I believe that people have the right to choose in how the live out their lives. Even as despicable and ugly they can become, it’s their lives to the end. However if it effects others in a verily negative way it should be taken care of, by the right means of course.
As for GW you could say they are “it’s okay to drink,” some might say they are not because of the effects alcohol consumption has on the character. Honestly I never saw the title “Drunkard” as a positive thing; it just shows the mental state of that person. If you want to try, “go ahead and try” I won’t stop you, but remember who you are really attacking; for they are still growing ten fold.
Ever since then the industry has grown bigger and much more powerful. However now we turn our attention to Obesity with fast food, and Cigarettes and cancer. The other two get incredible ad campaigns against them including some hefty taxing. They even want to give a rated “R” rating to movies who delve into pro-smoking, without showing the negative impacts.
The only thing you see as attacks on the industry is the casual “Don’t Drink and Drive” and MADD (mothers against drunk drivers). This proved highly improvable thanks to MADD’s first leader, who got caught for drinking and driving herself. The battle seems like a kind of imposable one since people count the now supposed positive effect of alcohol. However no one still likes the idea of an angry drunk.
As for myself I believe that people have the right to choose in how the live out their lives. Even as despicable and ugly they can become, it’s their lives to the end. However if it effects others in a verily negative way it should be taken care of, by the right means of course.
As for GW you could say they are “it’s okay to drink,” some might say they are not because of the effects alcohol consumption has on the character. Honestly I never saw the title “Drunkard” as a positive thing; it just shows the mental state of that person. If you want to try, “go ahead and try” I won’t stop you, but remember who you are really attacking; for they are still growing ten fold.
wsmcasey
What about joints?
I want to get my "Stoner" title.
Maybe a Cheech and Chong boss duo that drops green lighter weapons and green joint off hands.
On a serious note, why do you even care? Its just a game. Go outside and breath in some fresh air, your taking the game way to seriously.
I want to get my "Stoner" title.
Maybe a Cheech and Chong boss duo that drops green lighter weapons and green joint off hands.
On a serious note, why do you even care? Its just a game. Go outside and breath in some fresh air, your taking the game way to seriously.
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On a serious note, why do you even care? Its just a game. Go outside and breath in some fresh air, your taking the game way to seriously.
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Sir Skullcrasher
Why would drinking inside a virtual world be bad for anyone? 
Aera
I couldn't be bothered reading all replies and it's probably been said before:
WOW YOU'RE SAD!
Seriously. Really. Sad.
You really live up to the American stereotype, even though most Americans are great! Go away.
WOW YOU'RE SAD!
Seriously. Really. Sad.
You really live up to the American stereotype, even though most Americans are great! Go away.
sixdartbart
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I know, I'm not helping but... Pfft, you are all missing the potentional. VOTE FOR PROHIBITION IN GUILD WARS! Who wouldn't want a Bootlegger title?! Create your own Stills! Find the best ingredients for your alcohol! Make beer, spirits and more!
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Sorry to say but you think to small Inde
I'm taking Capone's' job and taking over the west side of Tryia,no bootleggers do business without my permission *which can be had for a modest fee* violators will be well violated Can't wait for valentines day
For the op;
Just as with all of these feel good, PC, moronic liberal moonbat ideas there will always be unintended consequences, But I'm all for the potential here.
OH NOES there is booze in a game base on slaughtering other people this might hurt teh kids
FlameoutAlchemist
Personally, I'd rather deal with people getting drunk in a virtual world rather than the real one. I drink maybe a glass of alcohol every six months, but my wammo is a frickin' lush, and I think it's great. I do not think that GW or Anet promote alcohol abuse. If anything its a place to sink gold into for a fun title.
I find it strange though, because I was just thinking the other day that it'd be great if we could mix drinks. Maybe combine some lvl 3 alcohols with some lvl 1s to get a lvl 5 alcohol. THAT would be a great improvment.
I find it strange though, because I was just thinking the other day that it'd be great if we could mix drinks. Maybe combine some lvl 3 alcohols with some lvl 1s to get a lvl 5 alcohol. THAT would be a great improvment.
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I couldn't be bothered reading all replies and it's probably been said before:
WOW YOU'RE SAD! Seriously. Really. Sad. You really live up to the American stereotype, even though most Americans are great! Go away. |
Sorry had to bring that up.
anna
Well, I have to admit that I do drink when I play GW. But I don't think Anet is promoting alcohol consumption.
Crotalus
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/signed on the "Stoner" Title
greenlantern
What about magic? Dark Arts? When was the last time that you wanted to conjure a minion out of corpse?
Just because there is drinking in a game doesn't mean that I'm going to be a drunk in real life.
If you mimicking games in reality then being an alcoholic is the least of your worries, the padded room around you is the first clue that you’re INSANE.
Just because there is drinking in a game doesn't mean that I'm going to be a drunk in real life.
If you mimicking games in reality then being an alcoholic is the least of your worries, the padded room around you is the first clue that you’re INSANE.
Diamondragon Seeker
Well, I would have to say that if you can't decide what is wrong and right on a video game you shouldn't be playing it in the first place. By drinking in a video game, you are getting drunk, but you have to decide for yourself how its going to affect you're life. look at D&D, People started to become obsessed with that game, letting it take control of their lives. If you are at least my age then you should know what is normal in society, so what you can and can't get away with. Obviously binge-drinking is not acceptable, look at the after-affects, but yes, I agree that a bit of alcohol isn't going to kill you. And in the end, if you really want a young child to play a violent game like this, with any amount of other people online that may not be as nice as you'd like, then you should just take a look at the back of the box and think if you want your child playing a T rated game with use of alcohol on the back. For heavens sake, if you're not going to look at the back of the box, what do you think your children are going to be like in the end?
Diamondragon Seeker, Age 13
ShadowsRequiem
lol it doesnt promote abuse of alcohol hahahaha
Let me ask you..... Just cause you play guild wars does it make you run around outside with an axe and your pet kitty shouting "I WILL AVENGE YOU!"
cause anet totally shows violence and pet abuse :O
Let me ask you..... Just cause you play guild wars does it make you run around outside with an axe and your pet kitty shouting "I WILL AVENGE YOU!"
cause anet totally shows violence and pet abuse :O
Darcy
Keeping a child blind to the realities of life is not the way to teach him right from wrong; teaching him to accept the responsibility for his own actions instead of blaming everyone else is the way to do that.
If someone has a drinking problem, it is not the fault of a video game, his friends, his neighborhood, his school, his family or his job. It is his fault. (This applies to females also.)
Age: 50+ and the child of an alcholic
If someone has a drinking problem, it is not the fault of a video game, his friends, his neighborhood, his school, his family or his job. It is his fault. (This applies to females also.)
Age: 50+ and the child of an alcholic
Skyy High
- The game is rated Teen. If you're a teen, you know about alcohol, and either are drinking or have probably turned it down at some point (in the US)
- For everyone NOT in the US, there is no legal ban on alcohol. Which is probably for the best; I doubt alcohol would be so popular in the 16-20 year old age group if it weren't illegal =/
- Following your argument, GW encourages children to hack people with swords, shoot people with arrows, and light crap on fire. I'd rather kids drink, tbh.
- Yes, MSecorsky, you are allowed to drink in the US if you are underage if a parent gives you the alcohol, in your own house, as long as it's not brought up as child abuse, which would require something...drastic to happen.
Bottom line: it's fantasy. If you personally have a problem with your kid getting his character drunk ingame, stop him. I'd argue that you're overreacting, and by making alcohol so forbidden you're just encouraging your child to try it in real life...but that's just me. As for GW, this is a ridiculous argument.
- For everyone NOT in the US, there is no legal ban on alcohol. Which is probably for the best; I doubt alcohol would be so popular in the 16-20 year old age group if it weren't illegal =/
- Following your argument, GW encourages children to hack people with swords, shoot people with arrows, and light crap on fire. I'd rather kids drink, tbh.
- Yes, MSecorsky, you are allowed to drink in the US if you are underage if a parent gives you the alcohol, in your own house, as long as it's not brought up as child abuse, which would require something...drastic to happen.
Bottom line: it's fantasy. If you personally have a problem with your kid getting his character drunk ingame, stop him. I'd argue that you're overreacting, and by making alcohol so forbidden you're just encouraging your child to try it in real life...but that's just me. As for GW, this is a ridiculous argument.
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What about magic? Dark Arts? When was the last time that you wanted to conjure a minion out of corpse?
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As I keep telling you, politics are controlled by the highest powers. You can’t stop the extremist form doing what they do, if they still have that power.
DIH49
Do I still have time to make fun of the OP, or is doing that out of date now?
zwei2stein
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Keeping a child blind to the realities of life is not the way to teach him right from wrong; teaching him to accept the responsibility for his own actions instead of blaming everyone else is the way to do that.
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This inludes everything (alohol, sex, other culture cultures...) - duty of good parent is to teach children about theese things and ensure that when it gets exposed to them for 1st time its done in controled enviroment and child learned enough to handle it right way.
Code=007
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Let me ask you..... Just cause you play guild wars does it make you run around outside with an axe and your pet kitty shouting "I WILL AVENGE YOU!"
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*grabs his bastard sword and orders his giant miniature hamster to attack*
go for the eyessss!
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Well i do it... wanna pics
*grabs his bastard sword and orders his giant miniature hamster to attack* go for the eyessss! |
Batou of Nine
Methinks the OP is a little out of touch with reality.
No, it is not Anet's responsibility to help guide *your* child through game influences. Anet can do as they wish provided it is labeled as such; which it is. Concerning children being influenced, it is YOUR responsibility as a parent. 90% of the world contains something a parent may not want their child to learn about, so they keep their child away from it. 90% of the world cannot conform just so a few people can be lazy about protecting their children. Likewise, Anet cannot conform a whole game so that your child can play; they have already targeted a certain age market (Teen and Above) and the game WARNS you as such. Do what the rest of the world's responsible parents do, and be pro-active with protecting your children.
As far as it having real world influence. No. As already stated by many here (yes, i read through every single response, lol) a game such as Guild Wars involves MANY things that could be construed as "bad", but if a person can get directly influenced by FANTASY, then they obviously are not at the right age or maturity to handle the game in the first place. Oh wait, didn't we already establish that the game DOES have a ESRB TEEN rating? Ummm ya.
Honestly, i really don't understand picking out such trite details to complain about.
And whoever called you liberal is way off base. Try ultra conservative. They already tried linking school violence with games (with ridiculous results) and getting them restricted even more or even banned from USA shelves. They failed miserably...why? Because the people with good common sense realized that a VERY select few that seem directly affected by games often have emotional or mential issues. Fact.
Alchohol promotion in Guild Wars? Sure, along with the rest of the world. You cant handle it, then try the local fully padded, white room. It should help to keep the world out! 
MMm, i was kinda harsh, sorry. But really, come ON!?
cheers.
No, it is not Anet's responsibility to help guide *your* child through game influences. Anet can do as they wish provided it is labeled as such; which it is. Concerning children being influenced, it is YOUR responsibility as a parent. 90% of the world contains something a parent may not want their child to learn about, so they keep their child away from it. 90% of the world cannot conform just so a few people can be lazy about protecting their children. Likewise, Anet cannot conform a whole game so that your child can play; they have already targeted a certain age market (Teen and Above) and the game WARNS you as such. Do what the rest of the world's responsible parents do, and be pro-active with protecting your children.
As far as it having real world influence. No. As already stated by many here (yes, i read through every single response, lol) a game such as Guild Wars involves MANY things that could be construed as "bad", but if a person can get directly influenced by FANTASY, then they obviously are not at the right age or maturity to handle the game in the first place. Oh wait, didn't we already establish that the game DOES have a ESRB TEEN rating? Ummm ya.
Honestly, i really don't understand picking out such trite details to complain about.
And whoever called you liberal is way off base. Try ultra conservative. They already tried linking school violence with games (with ridiculous results) and getting them restricted even more or even banned from USA shelves. They failed miserably...why? Because the people with good common sense realized that a VERY select few that seem directly affected by games often have emotional or mential issues. Fact.
Alchohol promotion in Guild Wars? Sure, along with the rest of the world. You cant handle it, then try the local fully padded, white room. It should help to keep the world out!
MMm, i was kinda harsh, sorry. But really, come ON!?
cheers.
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i believe that Anet can do more to protect our children from the devastating effects of alcohol abuse.
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While on very rare occasions, the logic is valid, too many times, I see the "won't someone please think of the children" defense used as an excuse to inflict a particular set of morals on the populace as a whole.
age= over thirty (the specific age is nonya)
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I believe that the first defense of children should be the parents. If you feel that your children shouldn't play the game, then you make that decision. Other parents are responsible for their children. It's not a-net's job, or the Government's job, to babysit children. It's the job of the parent.
While on very rare occasions, the logic is valid, too many times, I see the "won't someone please think of the children" defense used as an excuse to inflict a particular set of morals on the populace as a whole. age= over thirty (the specific age is nonya) |
Sir Skullcrasher
Good thing we don't have to drink in-game or else think about how many DUI you would be getting.
The Ernada
It's part of ANET's plan to corrupt the youth in addition to adding the Asura to the game. At least according to the Chicken Little crowd.
explodemyheart
Yes, if people get drunk because of drinking in game, Anet should be responsible. Kind of like how McDonalds is responsible for fat people.
Wait, what?
Wait, what?
Yaga Philipe
ok, looks like someone needs to take a little walk outside.
It's the kids fault if they start drinking. Anet isn't forcing them to drink, in or out of the game. I hadn't even heard of the ale until mid summer. It's not like it's some really big thing.
It's the kids fault if they start drinking. Anet isn't forcing them to drink, in or out of the game. I hadn't even heard of the ale until mid summer. It's not like it's some really big thing.
bug_out
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I believe that the first defense of children should be the parents. If you feel that your children shouldn't play the game, then you make that decision. Other parents are responsible for their children. It's not a-net's job, or the Government's job, to babysit children. It's the job of the parent.
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Too bad most of the people I know with kids think it's someone elses job to raise them. Then when the kids do something stupid that they saw on TV or in a game, etc., it's not their fault. People shouldn't be allowed to breed unless and until they are going to take responsibility for what they unleash on the world.
Back to the OPs point... It's not Anet's responsibility to do anything. It's the parents responsibility to raise their kids to distinguish between fantasy and reality, to not do stupid s--t just beacuse they saw it somewhere, etc.
blood4blood
In-game: I've been playing GW for nearly two years now, and I've participated in all of the events, and I've got a Drunkard title on one character.
Real life: I'm over 21, haven't had a drink in a couple months (just haven't felt like it) but do drink occasionally, and I quit smoking 4 months ago (/congrats to me! lol).
Conclusion: I see absolutely no connection between having "alcohol" as an in-game item and people's real-life behavior.
Real life: I'm over 21, haven't had a drink in a couple months (just haven't felt like it) but do drink occasionally, and I quit smoking 4 months ago (/congrats to me! lol).
Conclusion: I see absolutely no connection between having "alcohol" as an in-game item and people's real-life behavior.
Bryant Again
To answer the OP's question about Arenanet promoting alcohol abuse, while providing sufficent filler in order to make this post valid:
No.
No.
xiaotsu
In a game where the main objective is to obliterate everything in sight, I highly doubt alcohol is going to do any worse.
BTW; I'm all for video game violence and in-game alcohol consumption Only idiots would think that because it's ok in the game means it's ok in real life.
BTW; I'm all for video game violence and in-game alcohol consumption
Only idiots would think that because it's ok in the game means it's ok in real life.
unienaule
The message from the community is clear and before it turns into outright flaming this thread should be closed.