GW:EN no full chapter?

I just had to bring this up because no one seems to care about this and I am really curious...

Is anyone else EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED that there will be no more "Chapters" and they chose to end GW1 with just an "Expansion?" After NightFall, I've been looking so extremely forward to the next two PROFESSIONS that would be introduced in Chapter 4. In fact, I'd go as far as saying two new Professions is what I looked the most forward to.

In my opinion, the least that the developers could do for us is develop GW:EN into a final CHAPTER instead of releasing it as a mere feeble, half-assed, cop-out, turd burglar, all-your-eggs-in-one-basket of an Expansion. I know I could be patient for a later release date if it meant a full game instead of an expansion.

Anyone feel cheated, or is it just me?




Post Script: Creating a full chapter could also offer a fourth map that could fill the gap in the north and players with all 4 Chapters could unlock a full map via /fullmap or something.

mostly just you

Well, since I haven't spent any money on it, I don't feel cheated at all.

Now factions, on the other hand...


(J/K, I found a few ways to get my money's worth out of it )

I would rather a good, solid expansion instead of a boring grind of a chapter. *cough*factions*cough*

I like the expansion idea...you are getting new maps, but then if you spent some time reading instead of being disappointed you would know that.

They've mentioned that it will cost less becoue it's an expansion.

haha Thanks. Just making sure.


I'm not suggesting a "boring grind of a chapter," I'm suggesting a good, solid Chapter rather than a boring, half-assed expansion. Notice I also suggested that they put more time into it if need be.

Of course, I expect that I will still enjoy the expansion as well... I'm just unhappy with the choice to not continue chapters and feel that taking the time to make GW:EN into a full chapter would be a nice way to conclude instead of just dismissing all possibility for future chapters and ending with an anti-climactic expansion.

It seems to me that they're releasing an expansion for speed, not quality.


I have read. We know we're getting new areas and maps, but we don't know yet how Anet plans on executing these ideas. More importantly, that wasn't the main idea of my post. The main idea was new professions and full Chapter content. I was just including the new map speculations into the "Chapter instead of Expansion" idea.


Rightfully so. But I'd still rather pay more and wait longer for a full Chapter.

I'm hoping GW:EN with bring some of the crappier professions up to par. Why bother with new professions when existing ones need attention? Plus, an expansion can add content to places people have been wanting to have more content.

Wait..there's a difference between an "expansion" and a "chapter"? We only had chapters so far right?

I'm not against the change from chapters to expansions, but I would like to see a new chapter every now and then.

I have no problem with the current professions, but that depends on your play style really. Again, I'm not shooting down the idea of expanding... Just saying that I'd rather them take the time and effort to include Full Chapter (2nd professions and starting area / linking continent to complete the map) content as well. Also, we still haven't had official confirmation if there will be a new land map or if they will only implement these "underground" and expanded areas using the Tyria map and submaps (i.e.: Presearing).

Yanman.be,

Yes and yes. An expansion expands on content already established in the games thus far. A Chapter introduces completely new content (a full, stand-alone game like Factions and Nightfall).

Well, this would be an acceptable alternative as well. But it has been reported that GW:EN concludes GW1... I expect this is so the development team can focus on GW2... They aren't abandoning GW1 altogether (weekend events, updates, etc..) but, unless I am mistaken, they said GW1 is concluded with GW:EN (i.e.: the end of Chapters).

[skill]"you're all alone!"[/skill]
I'm betting you haven't bothered to read the article in PCG which I think pretty well covered the reasons behind this and the reasons why the campaigns didn't work as well as they had hoped for them to.

It sounds to me like this expansion will be better than a full chapter/campaign just from not being littered with a bunch more tutorial garbage.

Bottom line is people really need to stop posting all this QQ bullshit until they have actually read the entire article,understand what it says then and only then come here and still don't post your QQ bullshit.

How is it anti-climactic? You haven't even played it...

Personally I don't like more professions. I think they should simply add depth to the current ones. The more professions you add the more pointless they become. They are all just permutations of the core proffesions. It's just kinda blah.

I dont feel cheated, and I find it fantastic that there wont be any more chapters or new proffesions because......



*Spoiler alert for the OP*


WE GET GUILDWARS TWO INSTEAD!.

I'm dissapointed with low number of new pvp skills (but 50 pve only skills, wow, useless -,-)

I'm just concerned that aftermarket support is going to dry up without the spectre of needing to sell another product on the horizon.

Peace,
-CxE

I love the idea. There were so many proffessions it was starting to feel silly. Besides why would you want the same exact pattern every chapter? I'm glad for this expansion because it sounds like a unique storyline for the first time and it sounds like its going to make the ENTIRE game more solid and give a reason to explore more of it and spend time in areas that have been deserted for awhile.

Yes, I have read PCGamer#161. Yes, I understand their reasoning. No, I do not fully agree with this.

Just because I disagree with something doesn't mean that I'm ignorant. A good article will persuade you to think it's a good idea so it's very valid that most people will think it sounds good.

Call it QQ bullshit all you want, but we are free to express our concerns and speculations. Bottom line, I think people need to stop being so quick to shut off a post as "QQ bullshit."


How is it NOT anti-climactic? You haven't played it either.
I imagine that if they were planning on one campaign a year (or every 6 months) in the first place that there's a substantial amount of GW1 content and profession ideas, etc...that is being completely white washed away (I'm sure an equal amount is going into EN or GW2). I agree that having 20 professions would most likely get dull, I'm just saying that I was hoping for at least two more (which were already in production and now we will never even hear of).

People are entitled to think that the current professions need improvement and that some of the new ones are only "blah" variations on the core professions -- equally, I am entitled to enjoy the diversity that I find in all of our professions and explore the fantasy of two more in the final game.

bhavv,
No much of a spoiler, given I have read the PCG article and much of these forums. GW2 does indeed sound very exciting, but it is a different GAME altogether (people don't seem to comprehend this with their "I want to move my GW1 stuff into GW2" complaints). My speculations are just based on what information is available, and addresses the choice to expand on the current games ONLY, rather than expand AND include final Chapter campaign material.


They say there will not be any more chapters. So why not finish what they started?
I'm not opposing EN's storyline and expanding capabilities.

For all we know this expansion could be loaded with so much explorable content (I'm pretty sure they're gonna find out ways to make PvE lasting), GOOD PvP skills (and a nice balance update), a better storyline and a host of other neat things that you'll easily be able to forget about two new professions and thousands of new and useless skills.

Why not finish what they started? Because in my opinion they are already stretching it. They are more then finished unless you have an idea for a new proffesion thats actually unique and not just another caster that has new particle effects or a warrior who is more focused on shouts.. oh wait they did that too.

And how can they fully develope a new advanced storyline if they constantly have to work our balancing more proffessions and making low level content? Thats the whole reason they are killing chapters in the first place because its a tedious concept and they don't know how to break the formula thus GW2.