Figured It Out: THE IRIS FLOWER LET GWEN SURVIVE THE SEARING!
Hyper Cutter
It's two years from pre to post, then another three from that to Nightfall, and then there's the probable period between them and GW:EN...
anubis_master
eotn happens after nightfall
how do I know, look in the guild wars nightfall game manual there is no time for eotn.
some of you people have to start thinking more logical
the red iris flower giving special powers to have her survive the searing, or mabey she just didnt get here face smashed in by a meteor. and flowers being in elona dosnt mean that she was there it means the plants grow in places other than ascolon two. i dont mean to be a party pooper but its just my ideas
how do I know, look in the guild wars nightfall game manual there is no time for eotn.
some of you people have to start thinking more logical
the red iris flower giving special powers to have her survive the searing, or mabey she just didnt get here face smashed in by a meteor. and flowers being in elona dosnt mean that she was there it means the plants grow in places other than ascolon two. i dont mean to be a party pooper but its just my ideas
LadyNilene
I think the flower being in Elona only hints to her location...lets look at the clues that we were given...
1. Gwen's Broken Flute could be found in Old Ascalon...so...it can be presumed that during the searing, Gwen could've possibly made her way down to the catacombs, since her flute was found near the catacombs.
2. People have suggested the idea that the catacombs could possibly weave throughout the shiverpeaks by the dredge and dwarves...so...drawing upon that idea, I would say that Gwen ran to the catacombs and made her way out of the shiverpeaks.
3. The tattered girl's cape could've been found near Fisherman's Haven...presumbly, Gwen's hard journey could've worn out her cape making it "tattered" and from my guess, she was able to make it to that location before she was....
4. Captured by corsairs (who are "pirates" like Margrid the sly) who made a trip by Fisherman's Haven for...some reason...uh anyways... the corsairs took Gwen to their hide out in Elona where we found the preserved red iris flower.
What happens after that is still unknown...but based on the items that we can find, that's what I came up with.
1. Gwen's Broken Flute could be found in Old Ascalon...so...it can be presumed that during the searing, Gwen could've possibly made her way down to the catacombs, since her flute was found near the catacombs.
2. People have suggested the idea that the catacombs could possibly weave throughout the shiverpeaks by the dredge and dwarves...so...drawing upon that idea, I would say that Gwen ran to the catacombs and made her way out of the shiverpeaks.
3. The tattered girl's cape could've been found near Fisherman's Haven...presumbly, Gwen's hard journey could've worn out her cape making it "tattered" and from my guess, she was able to make it to that location before she was....
4. Captured by corsairs (who are "pirates" like Margrid the sly) who made a trip by Fisherman's Haven for...some reason...uh anyways... the corsairs took Gwen to their hide out in Elona where we found the preserved red iris flower.
What happens after that is still unknown...but based on the items that we can find, that's what I came up with.
Kotetsu Rain
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Originally Posted by LadyNilene
I think the flower being in Elona only hints to her location...lets look at the clues that we were given...
1. Gwen's Broken Flute could be found in Old Ascalon...so...it can be presumed that during the searing, Gwen could've possibly made her way down to the catacombs, since her flute was found near the catacombs. 2. People have suggested the idea that the catacombs could possibly weave throughout the shiverpeaks by the dredge and dwarves...so...drawing upon that idea, I would say that Gwen ran to the catacombs and made her way out of the shiverpeaks. 3. The tattered girl's cape could've been found near Fisherman's Haven...presumbly, Gwen's hard journey could've worn out her cape making it "tattered" and from my guess, she was able to make it to that location before she was.... 4. Captured by corsairs (who are "pirates" like Margrid the sly) who made a trip by Fisherman's Haven for...some reason...uh anyways... the corsairs took Gwen to their hide out in Elona where we found the preserved red iris flower. What happens after that is still unknown...but based on the items that we can find, that's what I came up with. |
Guess
If your interested in info on Gwen check this out.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...72#post2739472
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...72#post2739472
mrmango
That really doesn't help. Lady Nilene, I love the way you think. 
Iuris
So noone actually thought about the possibility that Gwen simply preserved the pretty flower (traditionally putting it into a book to press flat and dry out, like young girls all over the world) and lost one in the chaos of the war, with refugees running all over the continents, likely as far as Elona?
Kotetsu Rain
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Originally Posted by Iuris
So noone actually thought about the possibility that Gwen simply preserved the pretty flower (traditionally putting it into a book to press flat and dry out, like young girls all over the world) and lost one in the chaos of the war, with refugees running all over the continents, likely as far as Elona?
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Nash Vegas
There will be two new types of materials, red iris flowers and preserved iris flowers which drop in the new, finally designed and created, god realms to create special gwen-inspired armor that Sylvarian spirits will craft for you after collecting enough and getting to them because Gwen did something that their race was astounded and impressed by and they want to honor her by designing a new line or armor for her */catchbreath*. Hey, why not!. All I can say is I'm VERTY interested to see what ANet has come up with to pull Gwen back into everything.
krypt1200
My prediction is at the beginning of Gw:En they will say Gwen was killed by charr, the charr took her items, auctioned them off to all the evil creatures throughout the land. No more gwen, and only reason her items are everywhere is cause they were auctioned. Gwen had such a dark and dirty past, she was sent to the FoW for her eternal soul, instead of the Uw.
Mordakai
Why is it so surprising Gwen survived?
Many of the NPCs in pre-searing survive to Post. (Anyone have a list?)
I mean, even Lady Althea herself didn't die in the destruction of Ascalon, the Charr killed her later.
No, the preserved Flower, the tattered cape, all are hints that Gwen survived, not that she used these things to survive.
EDIT: I think Lady Nilene is right on target...
Many of the NPCs in pre-searing survive to Post. (Anyone have a list?)
I mean, even Lady Althea herself didn't die in the destruction of Ascalon, the Charr killed her later.
No, the preserved Flower, the tattered cape, all are hints that Gwen survived, not that she used these things to survive.
EDIT: I think Lady Nilene is right on target...
Kokuyougan
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10069012
Gwen isn't a baddie. Look at Act 3. The Great Destroyer. So, we can rule out villainess, so how about monk/mesmer/warrior hero? And, yes I think corsair's DO HAVE something to do with it.
Gwen isn't a baddie. Look at Act 3. The Great Destroyer. So, we can rule out villainess, so how about monk/mesmer/warrior hero? And, yes I think corsair's DO HAVE something to do with it.
I Will Heal You Ally
I say Red Iris Flowers are used for a mini-quest where we have to put it on Gwen's grave in a deserted place. Find the killer?
silvershock
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Originally Posted by krypt1200
My prediction is at the beginning of Gw:En they will say Gwen was killed by charr, the charr took her items, auctioned them off to all the evil creatures throughout the land. No more gwen, and only reason her items are everywhere is cause they were auctioned. Gwen had such a dark and dirty past, she was sent to the FoW for her eternal soul, instead of the Uw.
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SuperDave
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Originally Posted by Sofonisba
After the siege at THK, and the subsequent Titan invasions, they gave her to Kilroy Stonekin for safekeeping in Sorrow's Furnace. Some years later, the mine flooded and everything froze. |
Kilroy Stonekin: "Don't worry Gwen, Kilroy will take care of ya... Wait, wat is that I see? Stone Summit? KILLLROOOY STONEKIN!!!!!!"
Kilroy then proceeds to agro the whole of Sorrow's Furnace, Gwen doesn't have rez....they both die
racerx2105
Well from what you can read about the charr homeland is suppose to be very beautiful. So it can't be entirely ruled out that she was taken captive just like Althea was, save the fact his wasn't turned into a pile of ashes. In fact it might have something to do with Althea. Although the only conflict is that Charr are considering to have no concept of mercy but that doesn't always speak for the entire race.
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And if she did impressed them like it was noted earlier it would have had to been her little burn everyone escapade she pulled on everyone at the end of the beta. That was teh pain >O_-<
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And if she did impressed them like it was noted earlier it would have had to been her little burn everyone escapade she pulled on everyone at the end of the beta. That was teh pain >O_-<
Sophitia Leafblade
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Originally Posted by SuperDave
If she was taken in by Kilroy she's probably dead.....
Kilroy Stonekin: "Don't worry Gwen, Kilroy will take care of ya... Wait, wat is that I see? Stone Summit? KILLLROOOY STONEKIN!!!!!!" Kilroy then proceeds to agro the whole of Sorrow's Furnace, Gwen doesn't have rez....they both die |
Ares Moonlight
Maybe she made a life bond with a red iris flower so that if the flower survived so would she.
skretth
in presear she WAS a monk
she TALKED about being warrior
LIKED mesmer clothing
in a beta she WAS a elementalist and blew us all up (oh the good old days)
so thats 4/10 professions covered
also i like the theory bout being in the catacombs to escape the char, and since there is the tarnished coast explains her existence in the jungle to loose her cape, and since the "world" is called tyria the catacombs may extend as far as elona for her to lose one of her flowers.
HOWEVER
there HAVE been char in the catacombs, as per this quest. http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Charr_in_the_Catacombs
So maybe thats what drove her to leave ascalon and exit at the jungle, then running from the scale she ended up in elona, then again running from elona back into the catacombs where you meet her again
she TALKED about being warrior
LIKED mesmer clothing
in a beta she WAS a elementalist and blew us all up (oh the good old days)
so thats 4/10 professions covered
also i like the theory bout being in the catacombs to escape the char, and since there is the tarnished coast explains her existence in the jungle to loose her cape, and since the "world" is called tyria the catacombs may extend as far as elona for her to lose one of her flowers.
HOWEVER
there HAVE been char in the catacombs, as per this quest. http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Charr_in_the_Catacombs
So maybe thats what drove her to leave ascalon and exit at the jungle, then running from the scale she ended up in elona, then again running from elona back into the catacombs where you meet her again
racerx2105
I do like the catacombs idea as well but I have another possible out come.
When the searing starts, dodging the meteors she looses her flute which breaks. She makes for the catacombs but as we know the catacombs appear to have collapsed during the searing so she wouldn't be chased by the charr but rather trapped down there. I don't think she would be quite able as a small child to navigate the catacombs of tryia. But we don't know he any of the other citizen of ashford were with her. Anyway I doubt she would find her way to elona. But since the searing did cause some major earthquakes it could have raised the curiosity of the asura, possibly thinking the great destroyer had started his terror.
She might have been found by the asura. So the asura take her with them to learn of the surface world and begin to travel back to their home, on the way Gwen looses her cape around the jungle region. . She just might have grown up with them . Now as for the flowers. Assuming she lived with the asura, she was of course fond of flowers and it was all she had left of her home so possibly the asura help her preserve it or since her mother was a herbalist preserving flowers and roots would be common knowledge to Gwen.
While living with the Asura below the tarnished coast its possible she comes up for some sun every now and then. So she might have lost one her flowers while on the surface. And the corsair who are known for hiding near the most dangerous coastlines possibly tried to set up a base on the tarnished coast. Where they find the flower and considering it unusual in such an inhospitable place consider it of some value and it makes its way back to elona.
Thats a big stretch of the imagination but should account for all occurrences thus far.
When the searing starts, dodging the meteors she looses her flute which breaks. She makes for the catacombs but as we know the catacombs appear to have collapsed during the searing so she wouldn't be chased by the charr but rather trapped down there. I don't think she would be quite able as a small child to navigate the catacombs of tryia. But we don't know he any of the other citizen of ashford were with her. Anyway I doubt she would find her way to elona. But since the searing did cause some major earthquakes it could have raised the curiosity of the asura, possibly thinking the great destroyer had started his terror.
She might have been found by the asura. So the asura take her with them to learn of the surface world and begin to travel back to their home, on the way Gwen looses her cape around the jungle region. . She just might have grown up with them . Now as for the flowers. Assuming she lived with the asura, she was of course fond of flowers and it was all she had left of her home so possibly the asura help her preserve it or since her mother was a herbalist preserving flowers and roots would be common knowledge to Gwen.
While living with the Asura below the tarnished coast its possible she comes up for some sun every now and then. So she might have lost one her flowers while on the surface. And the corsair who are known for hiding near the most dangerous coastlines possibly tried to set up a base on the tarnished coast. Where they find the flower and considering it unusual in such an inhospitable place consider it of some value and it makes its way back to elona.
Thats a big stretch of the imagination but should account for all occurrences thus far.
eremos
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Originally Posted by Free Runner
Late response but in the magazine it stated in Act 2 of EotN we would meet some familiar faces. It showed the picture of Gwen in her green dress and at the bottom it stated one of the people we would meet,we had already met as a child in Prophecies.
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Originally Posted by Kotetsu Rain
In pre-searing Gwen had many adventures with you. You explored the cornors of Ascalon together (hopefully) but she never went into the catacombs with you for she had also heard the rumors of how dangerous it was.
Heres what I think happened. The Searing starts fireballs falling, echos of Charr noises raging throught Ascalon. (Probably over exagerating but you get the picture.) Gwen tries to run away but she knwos if the Charr are invading then theres nothing that can stop them from finding her in any of the towns they're plundering. So she runs to the one place where no one will ever think to look (dropping her flute on the way). The Catacombs. After wandering and roaming, there she meets Asura's who also live underground. They protect and raise her so she has absolutly no contact with humans. (Kinda guessing since she (if it's her) looks so nervous and shy in the pic in PC Gamer.) So she's chilling with the Asura's in the Catacombs popping up from underground and losing her stuff. When she came up from the catacombs in Stingray Strand (or nearby) for whatever reason her cape finally falls off. (tattered girls cape) Deeply saddened by the loss she cries and goes to wash her face in the water. Then wouldn't you know out pops some Corsair pirates there to rob the girl. gwen having had no contact with humans for so long but also not being stupid decides to give the last thing that she has to remeber of Ascalon. Her preserved red iris flower... The corsair want more but then they're jumped by the Asura who after the scaring away of the Corsair scold Gwen for roaming off on her own and down to the tunnels/dungeouns they go. Crazy yes..very crazy. I don't even believe any of it myself but I wanted to cntribute SOMETHING. Please delete if people start flaming me or become scared of me. Please? |
Yoom Omer
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Originally Posted by racerx2105
I do like the catacombs idea as well but I have another possible out come.
When the searing starts, dodging the meteors she looses her flute which breaks. She makes for the catacombs but as we know the catacombs appear to have collapsed during the searing so she wouldn't be chased by the charr but rather trapped down there. I don't think she would be quite able as a small child to navigate the catacombs of tryia. But we don't know he any of the other citizen of ashford were with her. Anyway I doubt she would find her way to elona. But since the searing did cause some major earthquakes it could have raised the curiosity of the asura, possibly thinking the great destroyer had started his terror. She might have been found by the asura. So the asura take her with them to learn of the surface world and begin to travel back to their home, on the way Gwen looses her cape around the jungle region. . She just might have grown up with them . Now as for the flowers. Assuming she lived with the asura, she was of course fond of flowers and it was all she had left of her home so possibly the asura help her preserve it or since her mother was a herbalist preserving flowers and roots would be common knowledge to Gwen. While living with the Asura below the tarnished coast its possible she comes up for some sun every now and then. So she might have lost one her flowers while on the surface. And the corsair who are known for hiding near the most dangerous coastlines possibly tried to set up a base on the tarnished coast. Where they find the flower and considering it unusual in such an inhospitable place consider it of some value and it makes its way back to elona. Thats a big stretch of the imagination but should account for all occurrences thus far. |
That's a good theory.
I think you maybe right...
Blauwe Tomaat
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Originally Posted by skretth
in presear she WAS a monk
she TALKED about being warrior LIKED mesmer clothing in a beta she WAS a elementalist and blew us all up (oh the good old days) so thats 4/10 professions covered |
Free Runner
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Originally Posted by skretth
in presear she WAS a monk
she TALKED about being warrior LIKED mesmer clothing in a beta she WAS a elementalist and blew us all up (oh the good old days) so thats 4/10 professions covered |
In pre searing she healed you with her flute (therefore shes not really a Monk)
She talked about wanting to be a Warrior (So thats a hint)
But she preffered the Mesmer clothing (So yet again another hint)
The Beta was a joke way to end it (So dont base her Beta self on her story self)
looks like 2/6.
I strongly suspect her to be a Mesmer. And i still think she is a storyline Hero and the Tapestry Shread is some Unique Armor. Whatever the cause i think we can safely say her story is going to be an interesting one
snapple
heyhey! about this whole "what's her prof thing"... I think that it's pretty likely that gwen is a mesmer, because... mesmers have teh /flute emote!!!1!1 naw but, mesmers' /dance, river dance, right? which is irish, aaaaaand in irish folkmusic, les "whistles" are obv. common (I had a hunch so I looked it up) whistle, flute, blaha..
Voila! whatya think? (::
Voila! whatya think? (::
Bai
I think that Gwen should be a Mesmer.. because out of all the core professions, Mesmer is the only profession that doesn't have a main character that is based on the profession. (Eve - Necromancer, Devona - Warrior, Aidan - Ranger, Cynn - Elementalist, Mhenlo - Monk) Also, Mesmer is the only core profession that only has one hero. Every other core profession has two. It can really balance things out..!
snapple
aye that is true. good observation 
Teger
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Originally Posted by Mesmer in Need
Gwen should be a mesmer because she pwns. Ive also noticed the thing about GW:EN, which dumbstruck me when i first saw it. The iris flowers might have something to to with the next chapter... all we have to do is wait...
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- Collect 50 Red Iris Flowers
- Return To Gwen
b-M-d
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Originally Posted by gervasium
1st - The variable profession hero, was razah. They just hadn't choosed the profession yet and so they called it varyable.
2nd - we will not use other professions armor in eye of the north. That will be a feature from gw2!!!!!! Then, gwen's armor beeing a meamer one can only mean she is a mesmer!! 3rd - Eye of the north will not happen hundreds of years after the other campaigns, it will be just slightly later and thus our characters can and will meet gwen! Only gw2 ( not eye of the north) will happen hundreds of years after gw1!!! Can't you understand a little bit of what your read? |
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I think Gwen will probably have no profession, that whole spontaneous combustion thing in BETA. Perhaps that was a glimpse of "The Great Destroyer", If Eye of the North supposedly takes place 100 or more years after Prophecies, and Gwen still looks like she's in her 20's, then perhaps she's not even a normal mortal. Maybe she was placed in Tyria just before the searing, and sometime between Prophecies and GW:EN she fount out her true calling and nature.
b-M-d
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Originally Posted by Teger
Primary Quest: Collect The Red Iris Flowers
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Moire
It's ridiculous to claim, that Gwen survived thanks to red iris flower... she clearly says that she wants them to give them as present to her mother. Second, "Gwen" in the mesmer armor with a sword in her hand, indicates a Me/W, which does match with her statement, she wants to be a warrior, but likes mesmer outfits. Next thing is, we ARE going to see Gwen in GW:EN, because there was a picture published in magazines with the blessing of Anet, saying that we met the person in pre-searing as a child. How many GIRLS did YOU regularly meet in pre-searing Ascalon??? Let me coun't....
I suggest people stop making thread with topics like this. Why doesn't everyone stick to one thread and discuss crap there??
I suggest people stop making thread with topics like this. Why doesn't everyone stick to one thread and discuss crap there??
mrmango
I totally agree Moire. And B-M-D, you make me laugh.
If some bogus quest like that actually appeared, I could do it 5 times.
If some bogus quest like that actually appeared, I could do it 5 times.
Asrial
The thing I'm most looking forward to in GW:EN is finding out what happened to her
Siadena
I think Gwen is the GW equivelant of the anti-christ, lol - she should be the main, ultimate end boss in GW 10 "The Ultimate Chapter" where shiro, the lich, varesh, abbadon, and all the ones to come are her minionious lap dogs that lick her bitch of the universe boots
b-M-d
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Originally Posted by mrmango
I totally agree Moire. And B-M-D, you make me laugh.
If some bogus quest like that actually appeared, I could do it 5 times. |
If you'd do a quest like that 5 times, you probably don't have much of a life.
gervasium
b-M-d, You simply don't understand, do you? You read my post and all that you saw was a bunch of writing mistakes. But you didn't understand what was more important. Eye of the North will not be 100 years or more after prophecies. It will be even less than 10 years after prophecies, probably 5 or 4. Gwen looks like she is 20 because she really is really around that age. You like many people before are mistaking GW2 with GWen.
BTW, I believe the verbal form "fount" doesn't exist so, the next time you point out someone's mistakes, make sure you are not making the same mistakes.
BTW, I believe the verbal form "fount" doesn't exist so, the next time you point out someone's mistakes, make sure you are not making the same mistakes.
Some Guru Named Kai
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Originally Posted by Glass Of Water
*Note: People are saying Gwen is a mesmer because there is a picture of (what is believed to be) her in the new magazine wearing what appears to be green mesmer clothes. One of the things Gwen says in pre-searing to you is:
"When I grow up, I'm going to be a hero like my daddy. I'd like to be a warrior, but the mesmers' outfits are nicer, don't you think?" So maybe she is a mesmer, maybe she's a warrior/mesmer, maybe she's just a warrior in mesmer's clothing...or maybe something totally different. |
(Illusionary Weaponry in case some were wondering
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Vermilion K
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Originally Posted by gervasium
b-M-d, You simply don't understand, do you? You read my post and all that you saw was a bunch of writing mistakes. But you didn't understand what was more important. Eye of the North will not be 100 years or more after prophecies. It will be even less than 10 years after prophecies, probably 5 or 4. Gwen looks like she is 20 because she really is really around that age. You like many people before are mistaking GW2 with GWen.
BTW, I believe the verbal form "fount" doesn't exist so, the next time you point out someone's mistakes, make sure you are not making the same mistakes. |
Gwen will be a mesmer imo.
Meritis
I think Gwen's Broken Flute, the item I still have after the searing will come in handy.
You can get a second Broken Flute, and I think it was for EN.
You can get a second Broken Flute, and I think it was for EN.
mrmango
There are three btw Meritis: Broken Flute, Gwen's Broken Flute, and the normal "Flute".
And no, I would bet so much that it will have nothing to do with the primary storyline, though a nice quest for those who have one would be nice for the raving Gwen collectors like me. :d
And no, I would bet so much that it will have nothing to do with the primary storyline, though a nice quest for those who have one would be nice for the raving Gwen collectors like me. :d