Way to break the whole PREMISE of GuildWars thar Anet.

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Looks like Guild Wars two motto will be,Time played=Skill!

Well.Sales -1.

Great... yea I really just lost alot of interest there as well....

EDIT: Wait it says doesn't show character development?... Wtf why do we even have titles then?

Okay then.

I've known many friends who I've recommended Guild Wars to. They stopped playing because they hated a level 20 cap.

The limitless level cap is actually going to sell big, because people like big numbers, and the fact that I can always be developing my character is amazing.

Couple this with the "no subscription fees".

Sooo...Sales +20 (max bonus).

That's not really developing your character or play style. It's just developing your titles and accomplishments.

not going to buy GW2 for sure now =)

One of the reasons that I bought Guild Wars over other similar games waws because it was advertised as not requiring level grinding. In fact, that's why I even heard of Guild Wars in the first place. This is definetely a big disappointment for me.

Where have they broken any promises? They've already stated that the level will still mean nothing and won't involve grind... hell, they are totally fulfilling the original promise of building the game around player involvement and as they have pretty much pushed GW1's game engine to the limit, they are starting from scratch and letting us know about it early enough to get player feedback and make the game as great as possible...

I'm looking forward to it even more

the skill over time was for PVP since you dont fight each other in PVE

since you missed it completely PVP finally gets what its insta gratification heart always wanted.............

the fabled level playing field of UAS and max everything on entering PVP battles or GVG

where does that equal grind for you?

GW has the shallowest character development of any RPG.

As long as the game kills the level cap during PvP so players are equal, and this growth from 1-150 is obtainable through the main storyline, then there shouldn't be any problem.

The word is "premise", not "promise". Your point still stands, though.

At the same time, we're flattening the power curve, so the difference between a level 50 and a level 100 character would be much bigger than between a level 100 and 150 char. This increases freedom in character development without making Max-Lvl-Characters too strong.

I guess this really does only effect PVPers, because now they'll have the urge to get to max level before attempting to PVP, but there still is the new "CoH-like SKing system"...I wonder if that'll work in PVP too.

ArenaNet can raise the level cap to 1000 if they want, but the fact of the matter remains that if they want to implement as little grind as possible, they will find a way to do it.

People sure are making a huge fuss about a game set to release two years from now. Even words at this point are just words. I'd like to see people chill out, enjoy the game they actually own, and wait for ANet to do their thing.

By the way...

Guild Wars 2 sounds like it'll take a hell of a lot more skill than just pressing buttons and moving and spiking. If I have to perform sick sword moves through a combination of action, movement and position, then yes, that is skill. And I'm looking forward to it greatly.

Not to mention I'll be having a great time leveling to level three-hundred. THIS. IS. GUILD WARS!

Don't complain until you figure out exactly how levels will affect your character and how fast levelling will happen.

i think a lot of ppl are way over hyping all of this GW2 stuff. its still over a year off, so nothing is set in stone. saying you wont be buying it based on the preliminary reports, that are 1 to 2 years in advance, is rather short sited. i for one will be waiting until sometime in '08 before i even start to think about GW2.

secondly, and kind of frankly, anet probably doesnt even care about one long time player raging over the new game and not buying it, because its a brand new game. they dont have to cattier to the long time player, when they can go after a whole new market. for every 1 person who rages over something like the level cap, another 3 brand new players will take that ones place because of that. in the end, anet is a business, not your friend. selling units > making forum posters happy.

better to sit back, grab a soda, and wait until '08.

might wanna grab a couple sodas...

Well preferably, I have had an unbelievable gaming experience with my play group. I want to carry this over into GW2, yet I have members atm leaving for WoW because not only is this game imbalanced, it seems the next game has huge fatal flaws which the OP just posted.

Depends on the implementation...

And they are going to WoW!?!? O.o thats kinda backwards....

this is already being discussed in another thread...why start a new one??

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...0136877&page=2

I wouldn't mind "limitless levels" in PvE as long as all PvE chars above X are set to X when entering a PvP outpost and all bonuses that levels above X confer (attribute points, HP, etc) are taken away.

But then how exactly do we deal with limitless levels in PvE? In WoW monsters are very carefully balanced in such a way that you can't reasonably kill anything ~5 levels above you (extreme twinks aside) and anything ~5 levels below you can't kill you unless you afk on it for 10 minutes. So a limitless level cap would equal limitless content to keep a character of extremely high level challenged? That's literally impossible.

You reach lvl 20 at 140k exp. Suppose an average player has a few chars with around 1M exp, which will be lvl 100. If anet designs and balances content for lvls 1-100, then what does a character with 15M exp (lvl 500?) do? Solo DoA equivalent of GW2?

wrong and here is the quote to clear it up