Is Burning Speed practically useless?

Realm of Fiery Doom

Realm of Fiery Doom

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Realm of Fiery Doom

Have a look at these three Elementalist skills and tell me that Burning Speed does not suck.

[skill=big]Windborne Speed[/skill]
[skill=big]Burning Speed[/skill]
[skill=big]Flame Djinn's Haste[/skill]

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

A skill drastically inferior to other skills! This has never, even happened in Guild Wars!

This is blasphemy! This is madness!

savage vapor 33

savage vapor 33

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Regems Basement

The Malevolent Wolfpack [tMw]

madness.....This Is Guild Wars!!!

Ietwat

Ietwat

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Holland

[JAMM] Justified Ancients of Moo Moo

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
This is blasphemy! This is madness! 300 FTW!,

But back on topic, i used to solo UW with burning speed and flameburst, when spiritbond wasnt hurt by the nerf-stick. But now it is inferior to other skills, maybe it will get a buff in the next skill balance

sixdartbart

sixdartbart

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Peace Machine GRRR [DiE]

W/N

When it was a straight 50% speed boost it was worth being on fire, not so much now.

Desbreko

Desbreko

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

California

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

It's not completely useless. Sometimes I use it in 13 HP monk builds to kill myself faster.

xBakox

xBakox

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

[JF] Just Friends, [NOT] Nomads of Turmoil

Quote:
This is blasphemy! This is madness!
Quote:
madness.....This Is Guild Wars!!! Lmao, thank you both for giving me a good laugh.

It's not entirely useless. Put it with a Wammo and they can Leeroy AND cause burning. The burning effect on them would be canceled by Mending though ofc.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Hey it could be useful... run Fire/Water (ok i should stop there) with Frigid Armour and PBAoE spells

No... it just sucks. It could be made quite effective with Extend Enchantments... but then again probably not.

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

the onlly way i can think of using it is on a dervish.
run melandru + burning speed + conjure flame + mark + more attack skills and stuff.


not terrible

mikez himself

mikez himself

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

London

Guildless atm.

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
This is blasphemy! This is madness!
Quote:
Originally Posted by savage vapor 33
madness.....This Is Guild Wars!!! RIFK.


well its pretty bad, but its variable is speed and duration so you can get a near-dash speed for a fair amount of time, it also has no recharge.

however, its still bad.

Realm of Fiery Doom

Realm of Fiery Doom

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Realm of Fiery Doom

Also, while we're here, compare these skills.

[skill=big]Inferno[/skill]
[skill=big]Flame Djinn's Haste[/skill]
[skill=big]Storm Djinn's Haste[/skill]

xDusT II

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Melbourne

It needs to be made into a stance if it wants to compete as an IMS.

The need to constantly stop and cast it every 5 seconds ontop of frigid armor means in the long run your not running any faster.

Realm of Fiery Doom

Realm of Fiery Doom

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Realm of Fiery Doom

And losing a lot of energy too.

BTW, do speed modifying enchantments stack? And is there a maximum speed bonus, or a minimum speed penalty?

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

A/

Yes, Realm of Fiery Doom, check out the state of the game articles on www.guildwars.com. I think it's 33% for stacked skills. Dash&Burning Speed are single, so they go over that.

themeteor

themeteor

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Realm of Fiery Doom
Also, while we're here, compare these skills.

[skill=big]Inferno[/skill]
[skill=big]Flame Djinn's Haste[/skill]
[skill=big]Storm Djinn's Haste[/skill] well inferno does the most damage. Out of the Djinn's (I did some testing on these when making a GvG flag runner) storm is the faster of the two (less recasts and a shorter cast time) but flame Djin's haste is more energy efficient and does damage but umm why do you what to compare them for PvE? mapping?

Realm of Fiery Doom

Realm of Fiery Doom

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Realm of Fiery Doom

No, just saying that at 12 Fire Magic, Flame Djinn's Haste does 15 less damage and gives a speed boost of 33% for 17 seconds, and it seems to me (my opinion only) that it is vastly better than Inferno.

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

I think burning speed should get a buff so that it increases people's speed by 50% for 10 seconds ^ ^

Master Dude Guy

Master Dude Guy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Dawg-town, AZ

Seekers of Truth [True]

E/W

Anyways, I find Burning Speed useful sometimes. I run myself into a crowd of baddies and set 'em all on fire! I haven't gotten Flame Djinn's Haste yet, but as soon as I do, it's replacing Burning Speed.

Sure, Storm Djinn's Haste is better, bat what if you're a pyro? Huh? What if you're a pyro??

legacyofkain85

legacyofkain85

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Lady Ainowa

burning speed =useless hmm disagree
here u can implement it:
avatar of melandru+burning speed but that also means to be a dervish
frigid armor +burning speed cahrge in in battle and let mobs burn
bruning speed +plague sending
cant find anything more other than this

samcobra

samcobra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

USA

Mo/Me

burning speed is so guuuud!

mojave mango juice

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2006

Burning speed is nice for Lutgardis FFF on an Ele runner, it kills you faster.

Guildmaster Cain

Guildmaster Cain

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Guildmistress Eve [Me], Guildmistress Azura [N], Guildmistress Azumi [A], Guildmistress Jaina [D]

Guildmaster Aeron [Rt], Arthas Ironfist [W], Guild: The Tyrian Templars [TTT]

I actually found this skill very usefull..

I needed to die in the Dunes of Despair Mission, to make Rebirth teleport work. Burning Speed is the skill that suicides the fastest. ^^

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain
I actually found this skill very usefull..

I needed to die in the Dunes of Despair Mission, to make Rebirth teleport work. Burning Speed is the skill that suicides the fastest. ^^ Exactly what I used it for. You stole my post

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Use burning for your advantage, it burn duration is cosntant so you can get away with N/E having 0 in fire.

not as good in contagtion build, but with plague sending it allows you to keep group permanently aflame with 0 attributes!

Xunlai Agent Smith

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Berlin

Angel Sharks [DVDF] / Three Fame [Run]

if only they had left it at 50%, that was crazy! now it just sucks

Wildi

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

PvE is the Metagame

yes Burning Speed is practically useless with every possible skill combination even with plague sending or frigid armor you waste 15 energy every time, its not worth to build around

Gregslot

Gregslot

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/

Of course not... its awsome...

Its good if you want to make one of those star bursters eles, you can use resilient weapon on yourself. But even if you dont, with the right timing, you can set foes on fire for 8 seconds (remember that fire takes 14 hp away each second)

in my point of view the only thing that is missing its a 0 casting time

Risa

Risa

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Nights Watch [Crow]

Mo/

[skill]Burning Speed[/skill] + [skill]Frigid Armor[/skill] = a good elementalist runner.

John Panda

John Panda

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

in my house

The Arctic Maruarders [TAM]

A/

D/E

you can use melandrus avatar with it.

my friend does

and uses some other stuff

it actually works well for quick runs La-Ac Ac-La

i think sanctum cay runs to

mabye droks with.. fleeting and some adjusments O:

Puebert

Puebert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

It doesn't kill you as fast as:

[skill]Blood is Power[/skill]

So yeah, it sucks.

ichigo_panty

ichigo_panty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Exiled And Forsaken[EnF]

melandrus + Picos Haste is better than burning speed. Unless enchantments are the things that you are worrying about.

Burning speed is useful when 50% as you can dash as fast as any sins in running with amour on. Now, it is 30-44%, Ouch.

Bartimaeus_Niv_Maas

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Through the Aether

N/Me

Mo/E: Burning Speed + Contemplation of Purity.

Extra enchant to lose and setting all adj foes on fire... who wouldn't want to try it at least once. (If not for that, at least to see peoples' responses to a monk who brings burning speed )

Sophitia Leafblade

Sophitia Leafblade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Dragon Slayer Guild [DSG]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Puebert
It doesn't kill you as fast as:

[skill]Blood is Power[/skill]

So yeah, it sucks. true but thats an elite and burning speed isnt an elite. Blood is power + awaken the blood is the ultimate in self kill though

ll goose unit ll

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2007

The Sons of Zues

W/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by John Panda
D/E

you can use melandrus avatar with it.

my friend does

and uses some other stuff

it actually works well for quick runs La-Ac Ac-La

i think sanctum cay runs to

mabye droks with.. fleeting and some adjusments O: AoM, i was about to say o_o, good for pvp.. use that and wind prayer skills to land cripples and apply really nice pressure.. + burning at the end of duration gives good pressure

Pericles

Pericles

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

[GoD]

R/

Correct me if i'm wrong, but if u use burning speed with an enchant removal skill, the burning will not hurt that much, and there ya go:
an ~8 sec AoE burn O_o. Imo this is a very nice skill if u know how to remove the negative side-effects

skaspaakssa

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Rt/Me

I actually tried Burning Speed+Frigid Armor on a Mind Blast ele... it worked pretty well, and Frigid Armor is still a good skill without Burning Speed. The only thing is it takes 2 precious skill slots...

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

wouldn't this be negated by mystic regen on a d/e? I think a D/E with Avatar of Melandru and mystic regen and some enchants to hit 7 regen (for when avatar of Melandru is on cool down) would apply some pressure and help the SFers (if any), at least in PvE.

jurektajne1

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2007

Odpierzona Hala Majstrow

N/

u can cast windborne on someone else not like 2 others skills ...

chaoskirina

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

(various)

E/

Lol. I find it funny with a contagion necro in AB/FA.

Contagion+dark aura+death nova+burning speed, spam touch of agony and wallows bite and use signet of agony and it bring lots of hurt. you die often but that is part of the point. I find this very fun to use, especially when people see me charging in with a sword and think me stupid. although i still need a way to snare them. hmm, ah well. it is even more funny when a shadow prison sin tries to jump me and gets killed himself. heck, any melee character gets killed!

but otherwise the only use I see for it is avatar of melandru + burning speed, frigid armor + burning speed, plague touch/sending + burning speed and that's it apart from my contagion suicider.

Scorn

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Back in the day when i did troll runs, this skill was imo the best skill on the bar, i could run to them really quickly (witha 600+hp monk), hardly lose any life, and i would gain it back when they'd hit me. Ontop of it all, they would always be burning. GG 2 min full troll run.