[Dear Anet] Please FIX the party window interface health bars - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

allience

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/Me

05 Apr 2007 at 21:22 - 1

Please close this thread, the issue is solved, ty Anet

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The new party health bars are too thin for a monk to heal properly, specially the infuser.

We need the option to customize out party window health bars. I'm aware that many people prefer the aesthetic look of the new once but here i'm talking about FUNCTIONALITY.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Patrick

We are aware of the issue with the chests, and it is being worked on. No ETA yet, and we apologize for the trouble. On the bright side, it is not using up one of your keys when you try, you simply can't hit the "Yes I want to use a key" button. It's being worked on, and we will let you know if there are any new developments.

As for the health bars, they are not broken as the thread title implies.

If you prefer the old ones, by all means let us know, but this was a *very* small UI change, not a bug. Again, feel free to discuss it, we just didn't want anyone thinking it is broken/unintended.

Also, this was a change to the "small" interface size, so the other interface sizes are unchanged. Playing in larger interface sizes will obviously increase the bar size, so you may want to try that if they are too small in the "small" size.

This is not a matter of preference. A monk that plays pvp has a hard time seeing the names and discerning between player #1 and player #2 simply because the healthbars are too thin.

I would like to mention that changing the resolution is NOT an option. The lag and rubber banding are bad enough running window mode. changing the interface size does make the party bars bigger but makes everything else too large also. I know that Anet listens to us and i'm writing this hoping for a fast FIX.

Please allow us to custumize our party window to our needs, it's that simple to keep the monks happy and the people who play other characters happy.

I don't understand why we can change the size of the skills icons yet we CAN"T make the health bars thicker. It's vital for any players playing monk out here.

ty

masteroflife

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

05 Apr 2007 at 21:23 - 2

so true... and also fix CHESTS. I CAN"T OPEN THEM FOR MY LIFE.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! WHERE IS THE YES, I WANT TO OPEN BUTTON AT.

Jebus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Belgium

Legion of Sacred Light [LSL]

W/

05 Apr 2007 at 21:32 - 3

You can still make them larger :/
...Using the thingy in the right bottom of the party window, like before...

allience

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/Me

05 Apr 2007 at 21:42 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jebus

Using the thingy in the right bottom of the party window, like before...

that thingy in the right hand button makes the health bars longer, not wider.
please read my initial post, it has nothing to do with the lenght of them.

logan90

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

05 Apr 2007 at 21:44 - 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by allience

how?
i know you can make them longer, but how did u manage to make them WIDER?

I think you are getting words confused. Width is the distance from the left side to the right side. Making them wider = making them longer. It's the same thing. What you mean is the height, right? You want to make them taller.

Puebert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

05 Apr 2007 at 22:09 - 6

Gah! I wanted them bigger!

B Ephekt

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Team Crystalline [TC]

Mo/

05 Apr 2007 at 22:15 - 7

I find the new party window extremely annoying. I don't want to have to monk with this setup...

Dragonious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Hot Springs, AR

Dei Victorae [dV]

R/W

05 Apr 2007 at 22:19 - 8

I like it because I get to see all the bars with compressed space leaving more background to veiw. O_o

leeky baby

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Surrey University

Starting to play again... need a guild

W/E

05 Apr 2007 at 22:22 - 9

prob a mistake.... i dont see why they would do it

Davros Uitar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Fool Wolves

W/Mo

05 Apr 2007 at 22:33 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by masteroflife

so true... and also fix CHESTS. I CAN"T OPEN THEM FOR MY LIFE.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! WHERE IS THE YES, I WANT TO OPEN BUTTON AT.

Exactly the question I wanted to ask - how does one open a chest now without no YES button?

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

05 Apr 2007 at 22:36 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davros Uitar

Exactly the question I wanted to ask - how does one open a chest now without no YES button?

You just use the new /kick emote.

Veneficus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

UK

05 Apr 2007 at 22:40 - 12

Nothing wrong with the new bars.

However you have to expect at least one person moans at every change Anet make..

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

05 Apr 2007 at 22:47 - 13

The new bars are fine with me.

furyore

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

The Kabuya Clan

D/Me

05 Apr 2007 at 23:03 - 14

cause your not a monk, im haveing huge problems here and everyone in RA is saying i suck at monking when in fact i cant click fast enough while applying the presision needed to, well, click

Jade

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Canada...... Eh!

05 Apr 2007 at 23:13 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by masteroflife

so true... and also fix CHESTS. I CAN"T OPEN THEM FOR MY LIFE.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! WHERE IS THE YES, I WANT TO OPEN BUTTON AT.

I seem to recall reading a post by Gaile (I think?) in which anet said something about adding the use of lock picks? Am I going crazy? Maybe this bug has something to do with that? Or maybe they were gonna add that for the expansion or maybe in GW2?

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

05 Apr 2007 at 23:19 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by furyore

cause your not a monk, im haveing huge problems here and everyone in RA is saying i suck at monking when in fact i cant click fast enough while applying the presision needed to, well, click

Do not assume. I actually did try monking like this, believe it or not, to see if it was a problem. It isn't for me, at least.

Andrew Patrick

ArenaNet

Join Date: Aug 2006

Washington

Zealots of Shiverpeak [ZoS]

Mo/

05 Apr 2007 at 23:33 - 17

We are aware of the issue with the chests, and it is being worked on. No ETA yet, and we apologize for the trouble. On the bright side, it is not using up one of your keys when you try, you simply can't hit the "Yes I want to use a key" button. It's being worked on, and we will let you know if there are any new developments.

As for the health bars, they are not broken as the thread title implies.

If you prefer the old ones, by all means let us know, but this was a *very* small UI change, not a bug. Again, feel free to discuss it, we just didn't want anyone thinking it is broken/unintended.

Also, this was a change to the "small" interface size, so the other interface sizes are unchanged. Playing in larger interface sizes will obviously increase the bar size, so you may want to try that if they are too small in the "small" size.

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

05 Apr 2007 at 23:34 - 18

from a monking standpoint, yes i would 100x approve the old ones over these msaller bars.

Grammar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

05 Apr 2007 at 23:38 - 19

Definitely prefer the old ones, no question about it.

All the bars are too clumped together now.

Bo Azum

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Mongoose United

Rt/

05 Apr 2007 at 23:55 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Patrick

Also, this was a change to the "small" interface size, so the other interface sizes are unchanged. Playing in larger interface sizes will obviously increase the bar size, so you may want to try that if they are too small in the "small" size.

Well, that clears it up. Thanks!

Draikin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

06 Apr 2007 at 00:04 - 21

Just tried it and yes I do prefer the old ones.

Obey The Cat

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

FFS

Rt/N

06 Apr 2007 at 00:07 - 22

Since I'm playing with small interface in pve, I prefer the NEW ones.

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

06 Apr 2007 at 00:08 - 23

LoL at the syntax confusion earlier in the thread.

I think it looks nicer aesthically with bars that aren't as tall as the old ones, but I can see how it can be difficult for monks.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

06 Apr 2007 at 00:09 - 24

Meh, I like small UI for when I'm playing hero battles, now I have to choose between that and monking effectively.

allience

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/Me

06 Apr 2007 at 00:42 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Patrick

We are aware of the issue with the chests, and it is being worked on. No ETA yet, and we apologize for the trouble. On the bright side, it is not using up one of your keys when you try, you simply can't hit the "Yes I want to use a key" button. It's being worked on, and we will let you know if there are any new developments.

As for the health bars, they are not broken as the thread title implies.

If you prefer the old ones, by all means let us know, but this was a *very* small UI change, not a bug. Again, feel free to discuss it, we just didn't want anyone thinking it is broken/unintended.

Also, this was a change to the "small" interface size, so the other interface sizes are unchanged. Playing in larger interface sizes will obviously increase the bar size, so you may want to try that if they are too small in the "small" size.

i'm sorry but this "very" small change in the interface means a LOT for a monk. try it for yourself and u'll see how difficult it is to select the bars and specially infuse. and you should consider that many pvp players use SMALL interface to reduce lag. lag is not acceptable for a pvp monk and i'm sure you're aware of that.

i am not speaking for myself here, this issue hurts all the pvp monks out there. please put the health bars back the way they were or simply give us the option to resize it!

this reminds me of the update when the damage recieved numbers wee huge and u guys adressed the problem by giving us the option to costumize their size. do the same for the health bars and this way every person is happy. those interested by the aesthetics have their way and those who actually need to SEE the health bars properly have theirs.

ty

NekoZ

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Long Island

So Goth We Crap [Bats]

06 Apr 2007 at 00:44 - 26

I love the smaller bars, now you guys gotta' add small mana bars below peoples HP bars too =p

Ec]-[oMaN

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Ont.

[DT][pT][jT][Grim][Nion]

W/

06 Apr 2007 at 00:46 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Patrick

As for the health bars, they are not broken as the thread title implies.

If you prefer the old ones, by all means let us know, but this was a *very* small UI change, not a bug. Again, feel free to discuss it, we just didn't want anyone thinking it is broken/unintended.

Also, this was a change to the "small" interface size, so the other interface sizes are unchanged. Playing in larger interface sizes will obviously increase the bar size, so you may want to try that if they are too small in the "small" size.

Thats great and all but why change it in the first place?
Maybe you could add an option in the interface settings to have the small health bar or the larger ones?

I've also noticed ingame colours in general have been "tweaked" to look worse from my eyes and also various interface changes(REMEMBER THE LAST TIME?)

- Text chat has changed in colour(the guild green chat looks horrid)
- Text characters now are being cut off if you dont have the window fully expanded
- In GVG's the npc's look retarded(colour wise)
- Screwed with the timer location size and morale boost

When you select a target in various PVP modes;
- their health bar is smaller(see above)
- text is smaller
- now has another un-needed box around the targets name which is either red or blue

Lastly the nerve you guys have for adding more things for people to abuse within the WORLD chat system. I really don't want to know what everyone and their brother is using for a skill bar in public chat. Keep it to guild/team/pm chat only.

These sorta things seem to be happening every major update, and I'm sure many don't like it.
If it aint broke don't fix it.

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

06 Apr 2007 at 01:08 - 28

like the new ones.....now when doing gayla I can fit everyone in above my skill bar without it over lapping! (as well as the cemetary in nf).

Xenex Xclame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

DPX

R/

06 Apr 2007 at 01:27 - 29

/Signed for old one back
We went in a GvG and the first thing i noticed was the party window bar i was like WTF?! this looks screwed up, sadly my guild mates don't have the yes i do

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ec]-[oMaN

Lastly the nerve you guys have for adding more things for people to abuse within the WORLD chat system. I really don't want to know what everyone and their brother is using for a skill bar in public chat. Keep it to guild/team/pm chat only.

Sorry but if i want to share i should be able to, like i said the people whining where i was when i got the update, give the people trying it out a break, they have a new toy and they want to play with it and share it,after they played it a while, they will play with it less.

I don't know if you guys ( Anet) removed it on purpose but it doesn't work in Local anymore.If it was intended i ask you guys to rethink the decision and add a option so people can choose if they want to see it or not.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

06 Apr 2007 at 01:39 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by allience

i'm sorry but this "very" small change in the interface means a LOT for a monk. try it for yourself and u'll see how difficult it is to select the bars and specially infuse. and you should consider that many pvp players use SMALL interface to reduce lag. lag is not acceptable for a pvp monk and i'm sure you're aware of that.

.....? Lag? How does a larger interface cause "lag"???

Divine Slaya

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Young Money Merger [YM]

Mo/

06 Apr 2007 at 02:05 - 31

I really prefer the old party bar over this new one. It is too narrow as is and makes monking more difficult.

Smile Like Umean It

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/Rt

06 Apr 2007 at 02:26 - 32

I just monked to try it out and I didn't see any problem with it. As matter of fact I think it looks a lot nicer and prefer it.

Enchanted Warrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/Mo

06 Apr 2007 at 02:28 - 33

Awwww, don't you like the new fisher price interface?

STOP MESSING WITH THE INTERFACE, LEAVE IT THE HELL ALONE..

Man no one asked for that, no one wanted that, there a zillion things to do and that was not on anyones list..

luilui

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

06 Apr 2007 at 02:49 - 34

/signed for having the old one back.

party window to monk is like football boots to footballer, don't think you mess around with it. I remember people didnt like the last change of party window too, think it put some yellowy thing to it.

VanDamselx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Buffalo, NY

[TTBH]

06 Apr 2007 at 03:09 - 35

Wow, monking is over as we know it.

/endsarcasm

Monk is the only class I play on a regular basis and this change is fine for me. In fact, I like it a lot better.

Zeph

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Wales, UK

Expect Extreme Violence [EEV]

06 Apr 2007 at 03:14 - 36

I like the new party bars, I think they look better.

Didn't effect my monking, I guess it depends on interface size settings and screen res.

Feathermoore Rep

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

PM me for JACT Invite

Feathermoore Clan

R/Mo

06 Apr 2007 at 03:17 - 37

Please bring back the old bars. On the small interface, the bars are just TOO small. The old bars were perfect. Now on the small interface, my mouse is almost twice as big than the damn height of the health bars!

Now it wouldnt be so bad if i could change my interface options to make them bigger. But i cant because many of the options have a minimum size in the interface options. To get them back to the previous size, i have to go to either normal or large, because the old size is actually somewhat in the middle of those two sizes. But then my screen is cluttered by the massive skill bar and chat box, which also have set minimum sizes based on the size of preset interfaces. So I'm quite in a pickle here, as I cannot find a happy medium between health bar size and interface size.

So PLEASE, give us back the old bars or allow us to freely change their size.

EDIT - Also I'll post screen shots later but with the update is seems all bars are change, health bar, energy,xp,casting bar, AND the chat box. However, the chat box has a small clipping problem. On the small interface, the bottoms of lowercase Ys and Gs do not show because the chat bar is to small. Please fix this in additional to make the bars bigger. The interface was fine before this. (Well the skill window doesnt count but thats a different topic - but its much better now). I'm not one to normally whine, but this just hit a nerve. I spent 10 minutes just trying to make my interface look the way it use to be, and it still bothers me.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

06 Apr 2007 at 03:50 - 38

Well, I take it back, it doesn't affect my monking at all. But I run in mere 1280 anyways.

I'm not sure where anyone gets the idea that interface size significantly affects your lag.

B Ephekt

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Team Crystalline [TC]

Mo/

06 Apr 2007 at 04:01 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Patrick

As for the health bars, they are not broken as the thread title implies.

If you prefer the old ones, by all means let us know, but this was a *very* small UI change, not a bug. Again, feel free to discuss it, we just didn't want anyone thinking it is broken/unintended.

Also, this was a change to the "small" interface size, so the other interface sizes are unchanged. Playing in larger interface sizes will obviously increase the bar size, so you may want to try that if they are too small in the "small" size.

90% of my time in Guild Wars in spent monking in pvp, the new bars make that a pain. I like the 'small' setting for the small skillbar, but hate the new way the party window size scales with it. Please revert it to the way it was prior to the update, or enable an option to change the sizes separately.

I run in 1920x1200 by the way. The bars are way too small at that resolution.

flipfly2004

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

A/

06 Apr 2007 at 04:03 - 40

well u can still use 1-8 buttons on your keyboard to select players and just leftclick the skills with the mouse ;P