Unannounced Race Speculation

Frog774

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Join Date: Aug 2006

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Ok guys, I got PC Gamer magazine today, and read the article on GW2. I came to the part were it told about the new races in GW2. I was surprised to see that Tengu were not on the list, as they are an orrigional race in GW and if your going to be able to play as the Charr, why not as the Tengu?

Well, then I noticed above were it talked about the new Races, It said those 4 were only a few of the playable Races in GW2.

So, do you think Tengu will be a playable Race in GW2? What other Races do you think will also be playable? What about Centaurs? Your thoughts on this?

CDittric77

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I think the Tengu would have been an interesting choice (and still might be for future expansions/etc), but introducing new races and fleshing out existing ones might mean that adding something like Tengu to the mix could be too grand a challenge.

Helcaraxe

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I was surprised as well.... ever since I started thinking of playable races (right after factions launch) I started thinking of playing as a Tengu. Then when we got to pal around with Zhed I thought "oh cool, maybe we could play as centaurs eventually too". Since the models already exist it wouldn't be too hard ot make these playable.

Goast

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I believe that Tengu would be a great race to play they are so verstile.In game they play all kinds of difrent rolls,well atleast core profesions goes.Plus if you look in the mag Tyra looks alittle more modern and it said the the humans was worried about becoming extict,or something in those lines.I like playing humans,and there are plenty of difrent races of humans to play.

I really don't think I am that interested in playing races.When I play a human,I conect with the storie like I am fight for our very exsitance in a world where strange creatures lurk in ever corner of our land.Some who we have come to live side by side with,others whom wish us harm.

Plus I want the human race to rule Guild Wars .muwahhh

Darcy

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In other interviews/articles, ANet has said the the Norn, Asura and Sylvari will be among the playable races in GW2. They seem to be planning on having others, so who knows what the choices will be.

The named ones are those that will be newly discovered in GW:EN, guildwiki.org states that we will see the birth of the Sylvari race in the expansion.

Zinger314

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The only friendly Tengu throughout the entire GW World were the Tengo of the Aerie on Shing Jea Island. There are about 10 Tengu there.

100 years later...the Tengu probably died of inbreeding.

Kali Magdalene

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There's also friendly Tengu in Xaquang Skyway.

In comparison, there's only two friendly Charr in the entirety of all three chapters, and they'll be playable.

Mesmerman

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As long as my character doesn't keep squawk-barking like Talon Silverwing.

Mercury Angel

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Broadened the scope of the thread in the title, as the bulk of the rest of the threads regarding playable races in the future are about the specifically known ones, and one thread each for speculation on any given race seems a bit excessive. As it is, I think this may fill a unique niche not covered by prior threads. Perhaps not, but search isn't helping much at the moment.

That being said, it seems likely that Tengu would be a playable race in the future; The majority of them being friendly or not can't play into it. I have yet to meet many friendly Charr <_<

Neriandal Freit

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We need to step back and observe all the races of the game, and go "Well, there are several varieties here. They played this role and all have this in common.". After doing that, we will knock out most races and be left with a handful.

Now, I will say and have said and will continue to say that races like the Margonites, The Forgotten and Mursaat will not be playable (well, at least right off the starting screen ). We will and should call them "Elite Races" for the time being.

Dwarves being playable, along with Tengu and Centaurs is plausible due to our relations with them spanning the three campaigns. We played with, and against them. We seen several types of each, both professions and races inside the races. We seen different organizations inside the races (Deldrimor Dwarves, Summit Dwarves) also in the process.

I know, Dwarves are always being used. But, they are one race of creatures (besides Gnomes...) I won't mind seeing played due to ANET's way of taking them out of the "We just mine, grow beards and grunt" way. I mean come on, even in Forgotten Realms, Dwarves aren't very spellcasting-like creatures. Here, in the world of Tyria, they are.

Centaurs and Tengu follow much of what I said above. Centaurs are often used, but are more often portrayed as just warriors and look like menhorse. Here, we saw a few different races of Centaurs. And Tengu? Who ever heard of a Tengu before they started playing Guildwars? If your not from Asia, read much Asian stories/mythology, odds are you never knew of them before now.

So, right there I would say we have for sure but unannounced: The Dwarves, The Tengu and The Centaurs.

Now, who wants to start figuring out and begin the great debate on who the possibility of the "other" races are? So far we have the five confirmed, with the high possibility of the Three I have listed.

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I want to play as a dredge, honestly.

Onarik Amrak

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Tengu would be great.

Dredge could be playable, but that's a stretch.

Darksun

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
The only friendly Tengu throughout the entire GW World were the Tengo of the Aerie on Shing Jea Island. There are about 10 Tengu there.

100 years later...the Tengu probably died of inbreeding.
Yeah, and the Charr are great buddies of the humans.

I think the Tengu would be a great option.

Frog774

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Vassals of Zenith

D/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
The only friendly Tengu throughout the entire GW World were the Tengo of the Aerie on Shing Jea Island. There are about 10 Tengu there.

100 years later...the Tengu probably died of inbreeding.
I understand what your saying, but I cant agree with you. Firstly, Factions was not based completely around the Tengu, so they couldn't spend much time developing them. Those also wern't the only Tengu in the game, There are some hostile in the shiverpeaks, hostile and freindly (and some that our Weh no Su) in Cantha, and supposedly some in Elona. Even if only the Hostile Tengu survive 102 years, the article still says that Races must unite together.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neriandal Freit
We need to step back and observe all the races of the game, and go "Well, there are several varieties here. They played this role and all have this in common.". After doing that, we will knock out most races and be left with a handful.

Now, I will say and have said and will continue to say that races like the Margonites, The Forgotten and Mursaat will not be playable (well, at least right off the starting screen ). We will and should call them "Elite Races" for the time being.

Dwarves being playable, along with Tengu and Centaurs is plausible due to our relations with them spanning the three campaigns. We played with, and against them. We seen several types of each, both professions and races inside the races. We seen different organizations inside the races (Deldrimor Dwarves, Summit Dwarves) also in the process.

I know, Dwarves are always being used. But, they are one race of creatures (besides Gnomes...) I won't mind seeing played due to ANET's way of taking them out of the "We just mine, grow beards and grunt" way. I mean come on, even in Forgotten Realms, Dwarves aren't very spellcasting-like creatures. Here, in the world of Tyria, they are.

Centaurs and Tengu follow much of what I said above. Centaurs are often used, but are more often portrayed as just warriors and look like menhorse. Here, we saw a few different races of Centaurs. And Tengu? Who ever heard of a Tengu before they started playing Guildwars? If your not from Asia, read much Asian stories/mythology, odds are you never knew of them before now.

So, right there I would say we have for sure but unannounced: The Dwarves, The Tengu and The Centaurs.

Now, who wants to start figuring out and begin the great debate on who the possibility of the "other" races are? So far we have the five confirmed, with the high possibility of the Three I have listed.
I dont know about Dwarves. They are far to widly used, and GW likes to stick to its own origionality and Dwarves are already used by WoW. We also cant forget Undead, Imps, Ettins, Skales?, Who all are also already in the game if we involve Dwarves. I think Tengu, Centaurs, Skales (which I think would add an interesting mix to the game), and maybe undead, along with the current races. Maybe add more in upcoming games afterward. The possibilities are endless.

lyra_song

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R/Mo

what about insectoids??

o.o who wants to be a devourer??

Buster

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I think Wardens would make a good playable race. Other than that I hope the unannounced new races are something we haven't seen before.

Theos

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Mursaat? >.>

aaje vhanli

aaje vhanli

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I would be extremely disappointed if Tengu and Centaurs were not playable races.

I would really like to see Dredge and Wardens as well. Margonites and Forgotten would be nice to see in the future also... Possibly in later expansions?

Mursaat, I wasn't extremely impressed with, and I couldn't care any less about Dwarves.

erfweiss

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I love the Tengu. I specifically bring Talon along when I'm goofing off in factions (was capping some rit skills tonight) because the grunting freaks my 6 year old daughter out. She thinks it's spooky.

Domino

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Artisan

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frog774
I understand what your saying, but I cant agree with you. Firstly, Factions was not based completely around the Tengu, so they couldn't spend much time developing them. Those also wern't the only Tengu in the game, There are some hostile in the shiverpeaks, hostile and freindly (and some that our Weh no Su) in Cantha, and supposedly some in Elona. Even if only the Hostile Tengu survive 102 years, the article still says that Races must unite together.



I dont know about Dwarves. They are far to widly used, and GW likes to stick to its own origionality and Dwarves are already used by WoW. We also cant forget Undead, Imps, Ettins, Skales?, Who all are also already in the game if we involve Dwarves. I think Tengu, Centaurs, Skales (which I think would add an interesting mix to the game), and maybe undead, along with the current races. Maybe add more in upcoming games afterward. The possibilities are endless.
Whoa, hold on. You think Dwarves would be bad because they use them in WoW, but you think Undead would be a good idea?

netniwk

netniwk

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in another interview Anet accidently dropped the name surrow as playable race,no idea what it is though.
link: http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php...d=75018&page=2

Edge Martinez

Edge Martinez

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Quote:
Originally Posted by netniwk
in another interview Anet accidently dropped the name surrow as playable race,no idea what it is though.
link: http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php...d=75018&page=2
Well, if you look up the definition of surrow at dictionary.com, it defines it as 'The thar.'... which is pretty redengine retarded.

So you look up thar in the dictionary and it tells you it's some kind of goat. Still retarded.

You go to google and type in define:SURROW in a search engine, and you get 'A big, odd, awkward-looking antelope in the Himalaya, something in appearance between a jackass and a Tahir'. Still not much help.

We know what a jackass is (one day I'll get around to posting a picture of myself in See Who Ya Play), so what is a Tahir? Well, that takes you to a bunch of Arabic websites that I ain't clicking on with a Bush in office. From Wikipedia I get, 'In Islamic context, Tahir refers to purity and cleanliness in accordance with religious rituals. It is also a name in several Islamic cultures.'

We can probably throw that one out. My guess is Surrow is a Guild Wars original. You could speculate it's a faun or satyr, as goat comes up twice, but I doubt that.

Then again, it takes alot of fruits to make a salad. Someone in the GW salad bowl might know what a surrow is.

TedTheShred

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Sorry to burst your bubble, one that could have spiraled out of control into some kind of mix between the blob and those round bubble things that chase people around on "The Prisoner," but this "Surrow" Business is nothing more than a series of coincidences gone wrong.

First of all, it is a typo. Here's the wording of the sentence: "...whether they want to be a Norn, a Surrow, or Human warrior..." Ever played mad gab?

A Surrow
As ur row
As ur raw
Asura.

The whole deal with the roundabout dictionary definitions leading to a perfectly plausible set of mythology that a G-Dub style race could easily be modeled after was a unique and irritating coincidence.

On that note, the race does sound intriguing and I for one would love to see a race (enemy, playable, or otherwise) spring out of this unfortunate close call that could have been wildly inflated and ridiculous if not caught so soon.

Also, I always figured that the inclusion of a Tengu as the first non-human henchmen was an indication of A-Net's interest in the developing of the species.

Lun-Sei

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I agree, tengu as a playable race in GW2 would have been much better than putting as a choice some ridiculous races like the shapeshifters Norn of, even worse, those small little Yoda-like things whose race name I even forgot.

However, as I have previously stated, my main concern as for now is if I'll be able to play a FEMALE charr.

doinchi

doinchi

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kali Magdalene
There's also friendly Tengu in Xaquang Skyway.

In comparison, there's only two friendly Charr in the entirety of all three chapters, and they'll be playable.
Thats a good point.

I think that the Dwarves might be a playable race too seeing as they are a pretty important race in the events of Prophecies.

Jakerius

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Dude, we should be able to play as...

SKALES

Seriously, I think the reason they chose Charr over the Tengu is because the Charr is a recurring theme. The Endgame Tyrian quests (I don't know what you'd call them collectively, "Defend bla bla bla") have to do with the Charr, and there's that Nightfall quest involving the Charr as well. It was the enigma to the whole story.

riftbreaker raven

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Quote:
Originally Posted by erfweiss
I love the Tengu. I specifically bring Talon along when I'm goofing off in factions (was capping some rit skills tonight) because the grunting freaks my 6 year old daughter out. She thinks it's spooky.
Hehe, my 5 year old daughter likes him, she says he's creepy. And for some weird reason she likes creepy. Im guessing its genetic.

Back on topic. Races I would like to see: Tengu, Centaurs, Naga (or some other snake being), Hecket, and Undead.

beanerman_99

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I don't know if I really want to play as an enemy I fought in mass numbers in the previous chapters UNLESS Anet adds some more lore/backstory as to why I should play them. Ok, I'll give them the Charr. But I honestly cannot see playing a Forgotten or Margonite at all. I mean, aren't they the embodiment of evil? I feel the same about playing as any other monster race we fought before like the Naga, Hecket, undead, Dwarves, etc. I really hope that, besides Human and Charr, all the other races will be new and unique. I don't want to feel like I am still playing GW1 when I am playing GW2.

Neriandal Freit

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Ah, the Dredge? However did I forget about these? Yes, the Dredge would be an excellent races.

Skales? I doubt we will see them due to the lack of NPC Skales. Take all highly-possible other races. Those races, there are NPC's we can talk to. Skales? There are none of to my knowledge.

Playing a undead? The Undead aren't a race, they are a type of being. They where a Centaur, but now they are a Undead Centaur. They aren't "alive", they can not breed and do not have running blood. Fun as they would be, they won't be playable.

Highly Possible Races:
The Dwarves
The Centaurs
The Tengu
The Dredge

Edit: Also - Dwarves are highly used as I stated, and your right, WoW does use them. But, like I had stated, Dwarves aren't the commonly thought of Dwarves in the world of Tyria. Most Dwarves that are in games, books, etc. are just "We Mine, We Grow Beards, We Grunt.". While in Tyria, we see Dwarves casting Energy Surge, and holding off a group of eight humans for thirty minutes on top of his mount! (Yes, I'm talking about the Yakslapper him self.)

Dwarves are likely to be played considering that they where in the first, and they are going to be in the last game of Guildwars before we begin Guildwars 2.

Darcy

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Let's see:

1. Dwarves - too common, plus they will be allies in GW:EN
2. Wardens - tied to Echovald
3. Mursaat - ugh
4. Forgotten - civilization dying now
4. Tengu - very possible
5. Centaur - very possible
6. Dredge - probably not, but I would like at least to see their slavery ended and communities arisen
7. Undead - ugh
8. insects, lizards, plants - didn't see any intelligent ones
9. Naga - they have villages now, maybe in couple of hundred years, who knows where they will be

Neriandal Freit

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darcy
Let's see:

1. Dwarves - too common, plus they will be allies in GW:EN
2. Wardens - tied to Echovald
3. Mursaat - ugh
4. Forgotten - civilization dying now
4. Tengu - very possible
5. Centaur - very possible
6. Dredge - probably not, but I would like at least to see their slavery ended and communities arisen
7. Undead - ugh
8. insects, lizards, plants - didn't see any intelligent ones
9. Naga - they have villages now, maybe in couple of hundred years, who knows where they will be
That's the reason why I think the Dwarves are the highest possibilities. Just because they are our allies, doesn't mean we won't play them. To me, it indicates we stand a greater chance of playing them now.

Lydz

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I think Tengu should be playable. I also think (as cliche'd as it is) we should be able to play Dwarves. They play an important role in the GW lore...

I wana be a siege wurm!

Demilikos

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Quote:
Originally Posted by beanerman_99
But I honestly cannot see playing a Forgotten or Margonite at all. I mean, aren't they the embodiment of evil?
Actually, the Forgotten were good. Us humans drove them off to the Crystal Desert. Humans are the embodiment of evil.

Onarik Amrak

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Quote:
Originally Posted by beanerman_99
I don't know if I really want to play as an enemy I fought in mass numbers in the previous chapters UNLESS Anet adds some more lore/backstory as to why I should play them. Ok, I'll give them the Charr. But I honestly cannot see playing a Forgotten or Margonite at all. I mean, aren't they the embodiment of evil? I feel the same about playing as any other monster race we fought before like the Naga, Hecket, undead, Dwarves, etc. I really hope that, besides Human and Charr, all the other races will be new and unique. I don't want to feel like I am still playing GW1 when I am playing GW2.
About the Dwarves... you probably wouldn't be playing as Stone Summit but rather Deldrimor.

Neriandal Freit

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak
About the Dwarves... you probably wouldn't be playing as Stone Summit but rather Deldrimor.
You wouldn't be playing neither.

If ANET does what I hope they do, you will have much the same character creation screen where you have the dark skin, the light skin. Different faces, different hair, etc.

If your going to involve races, each race needs to look different from each person inside of that race. Not all humans look the same, Dwarves, Tengu and Charr shouldn't either.

GloryFox

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The Forgotten would be a great race to play. Since Abbadon is dealt with they can easily come out of hiding and join the world around them. There are all kinds of areas around the desert not explored so they could be in any one of those areas and rebuild their civilization.

The Dwarf's are an important part of GW lore so I could see them available to players.

I’d like to see Tengu Dwarf Forgotten and Centaur all be choices in addition to Human Norn Charr Sylvani and Asura.

As for undead ... undead to me are the real monsters so I just can't seem em as characters.

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neriandal Freit
You wouldn't be playing neither.

If ANET does what I hope they do, you will have much the same character creation screen where you have the dark skin, the light skin. Different faces, different hair, etc.

If your going to involve races, each race needs to look different from each person inside of that race. Not all humans look the same, Dwarves, Tengu and Charr shouldn't either.
Ah, but you're assuming the Stone Summit look distinct from Deldrimor.

Yes their armor is different but they are just different factions.

What I was suggesting is you would not be representing the Stone Summit faction. Deldrimor is the mainstream dwarven faction, and not evil so it makes more sense to represent them instead of xenophobic slave drivers.

ensoriki

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Canada bro.

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Screw dwarves I want to be a desolation wurm ^.^

Mordakai

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A Naga or Lizardman like race would be cool.

As far as no Insectoid race, because we're never see them before - well, we've never seen Asura, Sylvari or Norn, either.

I'm thinking of a race like the Thri-Keen in D&D (playable in Dark Sun).