Cracking the secret chest formula.

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Now, do the chests seem to reset per character? Or per account?
I showed a friend the chests since he was new to Nightfall (using my ranger) and then tested one myself--still empty for me. This may be within my 30 days; I haven't been scientific about this.
But odd drops for people who can get chests with one character--but not others--make me think that the resets might include some "cap" for all your characters--that x number of drops or x amount of gold gained per account might be tracked somehow? And that you're "cut off" after you (and your account) reach some limit>

This seems to be a number more than 2 characters worth of chests...but not 3 characters?

Anyone who's had a reset and has three or more characters with most or all the chests want to test this?

Definitely per character. And there are quite a few players with 3+ characters who have opened all of the chests multiple times. :P

last time could open was like almost 2 months ago i think
still cant open them! argh

One thing I remembered from my last chest opening (it's almost a month ago now) is that the first chest I opened was Do Not Touch near the Zealous Benediction boss, the second Buried Treasure outside Kodash and the third one of the Treasure Chests. After that more or less accidental opening with my ele, I was able to open all the chests with all my other chars. So I was thinking that while the 30 or so day period in between openings might/quite possibly is true, to restart the counter maybe you need to open so that it gives you the sentence - Do not touch the buried treasure chest! Just a wild thought. I tested a few days ago (that was before 30 days were out) and they were still closed. I left two of my chars not touching anything (at least I hope so, memory isn't my strong point) and with one I'll try opening using that sentence sequence and with the other I'll go randomly. Although this might not prove anything, since a better way to test this would be to open all chests one more time now, first char going in the sentence sequence, then wait a month and try randomly. Sorry if this all sounds like a rant.

EDIT:
Just tried opening with my necro and the chests were still closed, guess 30 days haven't passed yet. Whoops! Guess I'll have to start writing these things down. Will try on 19th of June then.

I think the time you play a character is corrected, just recently mine reset for my first player, but not for the others that i have been trying to get caught up to the first one, so i have been neglecting my first character, and i think its been about a month and they reset themselves, i tried with the other characters. Because it was the double hero bonus weekend, but like i said, the other characters didnt reset.

I doubt you aren't allowed to touch it at all for the 30 days. Anet isn't that dumb, they know people would just get pissed off and start bitching on the forums about how unfair it is.

Lol. People get pissed off and moan on forums no matter what they do.

Aaaanyway, I've recently made a record of my chest adventures and have made the following conclusion - it's really this simple. Don't touch a chest for 30 (possibly 31, I left it that long to make sure) days and you will be able to open it again.

All the below toons checked a chest on 11/04.

Only two of them could open, so I deliberately didn't open any chests at all for 31 days, and got the following results:

Chests / Do Not Touch / Buried Treasures are only up to where the particular toon has got to in the game)

Marisa (Elonian)
13-05 4th opening / all treasure up to and including Vabbi. All refilled, all purple, cash very low

Saraphim (Tyrian)
12-05 3rd opening / all treasures available in game. All refilled, 6 golds, one sapphire, rest purple, cash diminishing

Ruta (Canthan)
14-05 3rd opening/ all treasures up to and including Vabbi. All refilled, all gold, cash diminishing


Serafina (Elonian)
12-05 3rd opening / all treasures up to and including Vabbi. All refilled, all gold, cash diminishing.

Katina (Elonian)
15 -05 3rd opening / all treasures up to and including Vabbi. All reflled, all gold. Cash diminishing.

Tara (Canthan)
13 - 05 3rd opening / all treasures up to and including the desolation and Nightfallen Jahai. All refilled, 7 golds, rest purple, cash diminishing. The torment and desolation chests were gold, with ok cash but were only on the 2nd opening.

Not really that complicated. The more you open them, the poorer the reward and yes, if you test a chest you have to wait at least 30 days before testing it again. So the best way to do it is to try and do them all in as short a time as possible.

I haven't been able to open any of them since the second weekend they were open.

Saraphim, Your testing seems to match up with my experiences with the chests. Although I am not too positive about the diminishing returns. I am currently opening chest for the 3rd time and I just got a Ruby out of the Mirror of Lys chest. But to be honest, I have not paid that much attention to the amount of platinum as it seems to be a random amount and I have to take a full team of henchmen in order to make it to some chests alive.

Fairly certain my tyrian character has not even visited Forum Highlands since January. Could not open the do not touch there.

Nearly 100% of my playtime is on this character, so I'm sure that has something to do with it. All of my other characters are able to open these as normal.

ie: These chests reward you for having a bunch of mules/characters you hardly play. :]

After a very long break i decided to try them again.

Character:
*Avelia (Tyrian),
*Playtime High,
*Elite Treasure Hunter(5),
*it was 3rd opening,
*last time succesfully opened ~25th January (2nd opening - 13/13 golds, no diminishing gold)
*last failed try ~28th March

Opened:
2/2 RoT: 1 gold+3,0xx gp | 1 diamond+2,9xx gp (diminishing gold starts with 2nd opened chest)
2/2 Desolation: 1gold, 1purp with 1,9xx, 1,8xx gp
3/3 Vabbi: 1gold 2purp (gold lower than in desolation, but i forgot, certainly diminishing)
1/3 Kourna: 1purp, 8xx gp
stopped here. Only 3 golds total.

So it seems that the time passed since last opening has nothing to do with the quality of drops. Or maybe only full months passed count and i was at near 2 which counted as 1.
Seraphim got all golds in his 3rd runs and straight after just 1month however, so there have to be another variable that affects the drops.

What I would like to know is do the free chests drop differenly in HM as opposed to RM?

Any thoughts on this?

They do not. :P

3 months and ive only been able to open them once.
oh well i guess im only missing out on grapes and paragon junk.

If the chests ought to have been refilled for any of my characters [I do the runs on 10 chars] they should have been refilled for my sin, which last successful chest run is more than 3 months away now. My other chars ranged from 1-2 months, and all had their chests refilled with various content.
My sin still finds all chests empty.

Previously I was convinced that each of my chars could only open 3 times and no more--but I believe now it was just that I was
a) not waiting long enough between tries and
b) assuming the ONE chest I'd try was indicative of ALL the chests, therefore resetting that ONE chest each time lol.

This past weekend, I started treasuring again, after a wait between tries of over 31 days.

Sin was first, only her second time through, she got mostly golds. I did from Torment through Kourna (never bother w/ Istan). I hardly ever play her.

Everyone else (9 other chars), moderate play time, ranging from 2nd to 4th time through the treasures, I even decided to skip Kourna and only grab Torment through Vabbi. They all got mostly purple and half the gold as normal.

Everyone, that is, except my monk. She has the most xp, maxed titles, I was going through the 4th time, she got mostly golds and high plat. She was the second to last one I brought through this treasure run, so obviously the 50-odd treasures I opened before her that weekend, had no effect on her drops.

Just tried again with my monk - 3rd time opening chests - waited 33 days - every chest had a gold. This is my oddball, so all the rest of my characters are up again on the 16th of June.

going to try again on the character that I almost exclusively play...will post results in abit, I haven't checked these chests in a loong time.

edit: nothing

I managed to open them all after well over 4 months wait after previously opening them, to my suprise a week later i was able to open them again (which i discovered while doing some HM Vanquishing)

FWIW - I got a bit frustrated waiting for my main characters to reset, so left all treasures, except those for a new character, alone for a little over a month. I also stopped playing GW for one week at the end of May. Over the past week, I've raided the treasures for seven characters and I'm 80K richer.

Once I've got all my characters access to all NF treasures, I'll probably try a system of taking half of my chars through each month, so the other half gets at least a month off and see how that goes.

All my chars ahve opened them all 4 times some have completed NF others are still at noob island but thtats 9 chars that all have opened them the same amount of times...they have all waited the same time in between time so t must be the 31days+1 day per an opening

I've opened the chests again with three of my characters and the 31+x/opening formula is working. :P

haven't been able to open the chests... only one opening.
does checking reset the counter?

Rechecked Domain of Pain on my warrior, thinking she hadn't opened (I was wrong, she was the first character I checked that month) = ~1700 g and a purple. It's been ~2 weeks now, so I'll pop open everything else and see what I get.

Normally I get golds all the way until Vabbi, then purples all the rest.