The death of farming

Luciora

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Prophecy

E/Mo

23 Apr 2007 at 07:36 - 161
Well an interesting note is that with all the whining ANet has updated the drops on greens/rare (gold) items/rare crafting/gemstones.

Though it is a lot worse on normal drops when your party size is small. Got one ecto out of one test run into UW which was pretty good. Though normal drops being what they are now, you don't make back your entrance fee that easily.

Gemstones, I got 5 torments in about 30 mins with me E/A. This was in about 14 runs, some in HM(duo) some in normal(solo). So here I can't complain too much.

Vanquishing areas in a full party does seem to have some benefits though, been getting a few gold drops each area but none have been GREAT just yet. My only issue that I do have at this stage are chests. I've had more pruple drops than gold and from a key "lockpick" that costs 1.5 plat it is just not right One day I'll also maybe be able to have a pick NOT breaking on me

To everyone that has decided to accept the challenge and come up with new ideas, good for you!!

To the others that say this is game breaking, take a step back, take a deep breath then get back to it Sure the drops aren't as good but they are still out there.

Carboplatin

Carboplatin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

[PIG]

W/A

23 Apr 2007 at 17:23 - 162
the overall number of drops did decrease, however without anti-farm code and all the new things you could farm in HM, i does make it more interesting to farm the different places.

Correct Jeans

Correct Jeans

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

^MY CAT DID THAT ONCE!

Free Willzyx [MASA]

E/Me

23 Apr 2007 at 17:55 - 163
Ive seen a post that confirms that flagging ur henches still gives u party of 1 loot. Would I hav a better chance of getting a colossal scimi with a full party of henches or just myself? Listen here and listen goo a-net. If someone has the ability to farm solo, they shoud have the right to get good drops.

ThaAlchemy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

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W/Mo

23 Apr 2007 at 18:27 - 164
gg Anet, waste more money pissing off your fan base.. Im glad they listen to the ppl who are paying their salaries (sarcasm). This reminds me of the day that hero battles got a ladder... i was like "LOL, They were serious. I thought it was a joke". So this is what im thinking now. What a joke. Im glad i made my money before anet turned nazi.

lennymon

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

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23 Apr 2007 at 21:09 - 165
QQing, insulting Anet, and just plain old whining is making lots of folks feel better I'm glad to see....

This update rules, the casual player base benefits from greater drop/time in normal mode in full parties... the farmers benefit in targetted farming (greens/ecto/no farm code decrease for repeated entry....) the hardcore benefit in drops from hardmode.... The bot? Well I guess we'll just have to see if this hurts the bots. My $0.02 on it is: It's JUST like the 'war on drugs' it's a war you cannot ever win as long as people want to buy that product/service. What you can do is reduce it's impact, and as far as I can tell this update targets the bots below the belt. The rest of us can adapt quickly, is the sky really falling (if yes, well then we're all hosed but if no get over it). I farm for the challenge not to make money... I have a job where I do things to make money, I CERTAINLY don't want to duplicate this when I play GW. I play for fun, not for work.
Last night I did titan gem farming for the first time successfully, in hard mode. I got in 1 hour a titan and margo gemstone, 6!!! gold drops for me, and ~50-100 of several materials.... (all for FREE). My data suggests that the end of the world is *not* nigh. Please remember though 90% of all statistics are made up.

MrSlayer

MrSlayer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

United Kingdom

Quit Whining And [PLAY]

Mo/

23 Apr 2007 at 22:01 - 166
The death of farming? I laugh at that title now. Just discovered myself a nice 15 minute solo run for my Monk.

My first run...and I swear to you this is all from one run. They all dropped from the last 5 mobs. Not great, but I mean come on! It was a tricky run, but not bad.

And I got a gold truncheon, 5 purple runes, over 400 crafting materials, and a load of dyes.



Im getting this pricechecked if I can. Might keep it, might sell it.

getchoo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

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none

Mo/W

24 Apr 2007 at 00:03 - 167
this is the death of farming i cannot solo anything and make very much to any money and i cant stand farming with groups. i will probably quit 8/

ArKaiN

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

Lotus Branca[Lbr]

Mo/Me

24 Apr 2007 at 00:48 - 168
Quote:
Originally Posted by getchoo
this is the death of farming i cannot solo anything and make very much to any money and i cant stand farming with groups. i will probably quit 8/ L2P.
They nerfed whites, blues and money drops. Everything else drops just like before.

psion

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Singapore

W/

24 Apr 2007 at 12:19 - 169
There will always be changes to the game, be it nerfs or not. That's what keeps the game alive. 1 thing about every game that has farming is... it becomes so repetitive that i can doze off while doing it.

Well, after anet did the AoE nerf, all the cookie cutters whined. invinci monk nerf, they whined. dying nightmares in UW, they whined. They always go, "oh its not possible anymore!". It sounds more like, "oh i can't do it with my cookie cutter anymore!". Well, i still see many solo-farming after all that.

If you refuse to change and adapt, than all you can do, is just to accept the outcome of your decision. You can be 1 of those elite farmers, wealthy players. But first you need to start learning. If you do not want to learn, then wealth will never come to you. simple as that.

Every change in the world always bring about transfers of wealth. Every problem has an opportunity behind it. Only thing is, are you willing to learn the rules of the game? Absolutely love this update. Seperates the best from the rest.

Thumbs up on the patch Anet.

Blessed of Melandru

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

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irq

Mo/

24 Apr 2007 at 12:37 - 170
if u only played to farm u chose the wrong game^^

wow gold is much better to sell

urania

urania

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

vD

Mo/

24 Apr 2007 at 12:39 - 171
actually, thumbs down, since now one has to rely on one's luck to get good golds in order to make a decent amount of money (unlike before when each run gave one a few k's)...instead of trying to get rich by getting 100 gp from a roup of 10 minotaurs, for example..
And how is group farming supposed to be better..? the money splits in 8, so it hardly makes a difference if u get 100 gp from 1 group of enemies when alone, or get, let's say, 4x100 gp from same group. the amount which then that gets split among 8 ppl...not to mention one is often stuck with nubs
so the only way to get really rich now is to go farm HA...in other words, anet is promoting large groups of flesh nuking each other with skillless aoe spells/321 spike in hope of outnuking or ganking 1 team (in case there's more than 2) that takes place in one of the worst places of all GWs...moreover, u reward such playing with emotes too, and that realy rocks!

thanks for showing ur love once again, anet <3

still waiting for an update that won't bring mostly disappointement.

Kcp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

OBF

N/

24 Apr 2007 at 12:48 - 172
< Perfectly happy with the update and the drop adjustment. Never pick up whites,and blues anyways. That stuff was just garbage that lagged up the game and made it hard to sort out rares and valuables if the piles got too big.

Good job anet, farming is better now IMO. Hard mode baby

FyrFytr998

FyrFytr998

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Connecticut USA

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24 Apr 2007 at 13:31 - 173
Witte is right. People are just too lazy to figure things out for themselves. In an hours time, which is about how long I spend faming for any length, I got 7 gold drops, countless grape runes, and some dyes. The best part of it was that this was an area where the golds were non max prior to the arrival of hard mode. So what was a stupidly easy area before is still stupidly easy, although some modification to the run was made, and now I get MAX golds for my effort. (Seems like Mr Slayer and myself are hitting the same areas, lol. )

In fact, I'll go as far as to say that the prices on some "Rare" skinned weapons will see a drop, not an increase. As a solo farmer who used to grind it out to merch everything, I realized that in oder to make up for the losses, I had to sell my items to actual players now. A little more effort on my part, but not crazy. No need to stand around spamming the trade chat. All you need is the patience to keep a clean and up to date guru thread.

Nekretaal

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

24 Apr 2007 at 14:11 - 174
What about the IDS? That's about to become super-rare.

I I I Inferno I I I

I I I Inferno I I I

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

Behind you

GoE

A/W

24 Apr 2007 at 14:34 - 175
hmmmm

Solo green farming hasn't changed for me at all, nither have the golds.

4 days ago me and few mates; in one fow run with 13 keys 11 of them were crappy purple shadow bows and blades and 1 good gold shadowblade and chaos axe so I would imagine 1 in 10 avg keys would turn out a crappy or ok gold. For all the nubs who want cash and fast will go to HA and flood it with their noobyness so decent ppl like me wont ever.. EVER get a chance to win HoH - and I still havent one 1 HoH round yet..

Dronte

Dronte

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Join Date: Sep 2006

24 Apr 2007 at 18:50 - 176
I think mods can close this topic, hard mode farming > before update normal farm.

getchoo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

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none

Mo/W

24 Apr 2007 at 20:14 - 177
this game is bs now. i used to make about 1.3k on doing kappas about 30k a hour now i make 4k and hour. y hurt all the good players for the newbs. we learned how to farm why the hell cant they. im pretty sure you have to read to be good at this game. gg anet g fin g

lilnate22

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Runners of Fury

W/Mo

24 Apr 2007 at 21:58 - 178
4k an hour is OK in my eyes..try me who gets 1k< in a hour

beanerman_99

beanerman_99

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

In the clouds

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E/

25 Apr 2007 at 00:41 - 179
I will admit that the new scaled drops really hurt my bankroll. I just tried my spot tonight in Normal Mode and got 1 white item....thats it. And thats out of roughly 40 monsters killed.

I understand how this combats bots but it really hurts those, like me, who farmed for personal uses. I admit that I farmed a certain area and merchanted everything and made a good amount of money. With this money I buy new armors, dyes, and runes for my characters.

I honestly can't see why Anet did this. As stated numerous times on the forums, there are much better ways to combat bots. Maybe it is too soon for me to see the "big picture" but right now I just don't understand it.

red13xx

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

25 Apr 2007 at 02:10 - 180
Yeah people who agree this update is better for the casual gamer or solo farmer or both are full of crap. Take it from me I spent over 5 hours in HM and the drops of gold are just plsing to the eyes. 8/10 they all suck. And my average is only 5k per hour. I found a black dye and +30 sword mod in those 5 hours and yeah if I was to sell the +30 mod and black dye I would get a substantial amount of money but in essence that is illogical to expect that everytime. I rather make 5x20k + 10% chance of a decent mod/gold than make 5x5k + a 15% chance to get something of subtantial value and then deal with trying to sell it off for 2 hours. It is bs and harder for casual gamers. And those that have chose to solo and casually play are the ones that get hurt the most.

Ishana

Ishana

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Join Date: Apr 2007

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Me/Mo

25 Apr 2007 at 04:21 - 181
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kool Pajamas
Bye bye farm wars hello guild wars. finally. Finally my friends asked me, hey wanna team up.....its been a long time ya...

finally....i can stop my trading business

get back to guildwars ~ no trade wars !


woohoo........~!!!!

Kcp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

OBF

N/

25 Apr 2007 at 04:23 - 182
Are you guys playing the same game I am..... farming is better then ever. Better get busy before anet decides to nerf it all.

Ishana

Ishana

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Me/Mo

25 Apr 2007 at 22:49 - 183
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kcp
Are you guys playing the same game I am..... farming is better then ever. Better get busy before anet decides to nerf it all. have to agree...

got 4 gold at dead sword HM farming and a blackie, 2 round only^^

*not much gold or white/purple item as compare to last time*

*selling the gold item should be able to recover the "nerfed losses" or may be a little profit.*

Keithark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Be Aggressive B E Aggressive [AGRO]

E/Me

26 Apr 2007 at 14:22 - 184
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ishana
have to agree...

got 4 gold at dead sword HM farming and a blackie, 2 round only^^

*not much gold or white/purple item as compare to last time*

*selling the gold item should be able to recover the "nerfed losses" or may be a little profit.* But the problem is you have to sell the items...and unless you get some uber gold then it is not worth the time. With the normal farming nerfed (merching whites and picking up gold) nobody has gold pieces to buy your gold drops you are trying to sell..plus now instead of spending 1 hour farming and getting around 10-20k from it plus any rare drops you spend 1 hour farming 3-5k and get 2-3 gold drops that will sell if you are lucky for 5k each so another 3 hours trying to sell them so 4 hours for at most 20k. I had rather spend 1 hour farming 15k with white drops than 1 hour farming and 3 hours selling for 20k. But it is all ok, because I now have 1,000k and didn't take more than 15 minutes..gg anet

Almighty Barbarian

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

26 Apr 2007 at 16:57 - 185
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keithark
But the problem is you have to sell the items...and unless you get some uber gold then it is not worth the time. With the normal farming nerfed (merching whites and picking up gold) nobody has gold pieces to buy your gold drops you are trying to sell..plus now instead of spending 1 hour farming and getting around 10-20k from it plus any rare drops you spend 1 hour farming 3-5k and get 2-3 gold drops that will sell if you are lucky for 5k each so another 3 hours trying to sell them so 4 hours for at most 20k. I had rather spend 1 hour farming 15k with white drops than 1 hour farming and 3 hours selling for 20k. But it is all ok, because I now have 1,000k and didn't take more than 15 minutes..gg anet How do you make 15k/hour? I have trouble making 2k/hour!

Keithark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

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E/Me

26 Apr 2007 at 18:11 - 186
that was pre nerf..and yes i know 15k/hr was low pre nerf, I only farmed easy areas (less stress and we never have favor to farm ecto)

cellardweller

cellardweller

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Join Date: Aug 2005

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27 Apr 2007 at 01:37 - 187
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kcp
Are you guys playing the same game I am..... farming is better then ever. Better get busy before anet decides to nerf it all. Your average blue/white is worth ~50g
Your average gold is worth ~350g

Even if every single drop was a gold, you're still behind.

Ishana

Ishana

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Join Date: Apr 2007

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Me/Mo

27 Apr 2007 at 02:33 - 188
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keithark
But the problem is you have to sell the items...and unless you get some uber gold then it is not worth the time. With the normal farming nerfed (merching whites and picking up gold) nobody has gold pieces to buy your gold drops you are trying to sell..plus now instead of spending 1 hour farming and getting around 10-20k from it plus any rare drops you spend 1 hour farming 3-5k and get 2-3 gold drops that will sell if you are lucky for 5k each so another 3 hours trying to sell them so 4 hours for at most 20k. I had rather spend 1 hour farming 15k with white drops than 1 hour farming and 3 hours selling for 20k. But it is all ok, because I now have 1,000k and didn't take more than 15 minutes..gg anet honestly...i am thanking anet

1. return my friends who went solo farming for the past 6 months....now we all met up and guildwars. (most of them have not been to the other side of UW, been there and seen that)

*This is what guildwars suppose to be.....not farmwars or tradewars*
*need gold? why farm? i can easily made 250-500k a day....with tradewars...ty to gurus PC n Price List*

2. making farmers quit....that is a really good sign.....so any gurus trying to sell their collosal scimitar at 100k+80e will end up no buyer in the end....u eve might get 1 for only 100k or even at a bargain.

item can be as cheap as a penny....but we the farmer bought out our own miseries.....for inflating the prices.




*We dont need gold to beat the game....but we need gold to show off*

1000k isnt alot not even 3mils

Well done anet. !

[Those who survived the nerfed each and every time...are true players...i salute u !!]


Roshi_ikkyu

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/W

27 Apr 2007 at 05:48 - 189
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ishana
honestly...i am thanking anet

1. return my friends who went solo farming for the past 6 months....now we all met up and guildwars. (most of them have not been to the other side of UW, been there and seen that)

*This is what guildwars suppose to be.....not farmwars or tradewars*
*need gold? why farm? i can easily made 250-500k a day....with tradewars...ty to gurus PC n Price List*

2. making farmers quit....that is a really good sign.....so any gurus trying to sell their collosal scimitar at 100k+80e will end up no buyer in the end....u eve might get 1 for only 100k or even at a bargain.

item can be as cheap as a penny....but we the farmer bought out our own miseries.....for inflating the prices.




*We dont need gold to beat the game....but we need gold to show off*

1000k isnt alot not even 3mils

Well done anet. !

[Those who survived the nerfed each and every time...are true players...i salute u !!]


Your post are getting alittle off-topic for the thread and the forum.
Its good that you've got your guild back. But this is ALL about the farming.

And to all the boo-hoo babies on the first few pages... Told ya soo! Farming isn't dead. as a matter of fact its better then ever ffor some people.