The Ultimate Nerf
djanubis2005
Well,
Some knew it was coming. Some didn't. The end of ALL solo farming...just like all the little whiney fckin faggots with no skill whatsoever wanted.
Gratz Anet, you finally figured out how to nerf all soloing. Thanks for nerfing something I (and im sure many other skilled gamers) dearly enjoyed. It's just one of the many things that I loved that was taken from me. No biggie, happens all the time.
I didn't develop solo builds for nearly all end-game areas to get rich. If i did, then I wouldn't give away so much stuff to friends.
I HONESTLY wonder.....are the people making these decisions communists? I don't dare throw this word around, cuz I have sure as hell studied this ideology enough to know when it influences something.
Seriously, what is hoped to be gained by this? The whiney little fags will shut up? NOT LIKELY. They'll just find some other stuff to whine about. People that whine about soloing either: 1. cant do it themselves and envy those who can, or 2. did it enough for themselves, got bored, and do not want others to get the same benefit they did.
I find it appauling that you (Anet) would ruin so many players' gaming experience and not even provide a fcking sentence explaining why you chose to do so. I believe i speak on behalf of everyone that soloed when I demand this.
I know what those who don't agree with me are thinking. Hmmm...why should this guy play an online game when he just sit there and solos all day. Well you're about as wrong as you can be. The solo farming I do is not always soloing. I like to create 2, 3, or 4man builds to conquer areas that I cant solo, and I spend a lot of time finding skilled players and teaching them the builds so we can try them out. I do this because it's extremly fun. People I play with are usually extremely happy afterward and some even say they've never had so much fun in the game.
On the other hand....I'm in a killer guild that I absolutely love. I love doing DoA and other elite runs with these top notch people, and maybe this update will allow me to focus more on doing 8man stuff.
Now you're prolly thinking i'll spend more time on this because it's more profitable. Wrong again. And to prove this I would like you to imagine playing guild wars without any drops. Everyone just levels up, and gets cool new weapons at each level. How fcking lame would that be? Cmon, you wouldn't need any skill at all. Just join a group, go kill stuff and level with everyone else. Oh and by the way, you only level once a month, so forget about trying to lvl to 99 and get the Uber Sword of DEATH.
GG Anet.
Some knew it was coming. Some didn't. The end of ALL solo farming...just like all the little whiney fckin faggots with no skill whatsoever wanted.
Gratz Anet, you finally figured out how to nerf all soloing. Thanks for nerfing something I (and im sure many other skilled gamers) dearly enjoyed. It's just one of the many things that I loved that was taken from me. No biggie, happens all the time.
I didn't develop solo builds for nearly all end-game areas to get rich. If i did, then I wouldn't give away so much stuff to friends.
I HONESTLY wonder.....are the people making these decisions communists? I don't dare throw this word around, cuz I have sure as hell studied this ideology enough to know when it influences something.
Seriously, what is hoped to be gained by this? The whiney little fags will shut up? NOT LIKELY. They'll just find some other stuff to whine about. People that whine about soloing either: 1. cant do it themselves and envy those who can, or 2. did it enough for themselves, got bored, and do not want others to get the same benefit they did.
I find it appauling that you (Anet) would ruin so many players' gaming experience and not even provide a fcking sentence explaining why you chose to do so. I believe i speak on behalf of everyone that soloed when I demand this.
I know what those who don't agree with me are thinking. Hmmm...why should this guy play an online game when he just sit there and solos all day. Well you're about as wrong as you can be. The solo farming I do is not always soloing. I like to create 2, 3, or 4man builds to conquer areas that I cant solo, and I spend a lot of time finding skilled players and teaching them the builds so we can try them out. I do this because it's extremly fun. People I play with are usually extremely happy afterward and some even say they've never had so much fun in the game.
On the other hand....I'm in a killer guild that I absolutely love. I love doing DoA and other elite runs with these top notch people, and maybe this update will allow me to focus more on doing 8man stuff.
Now you're prolly thinking i'll spend more time on this because it's more profitable. Wrong again. And to prove this I would like you to imagine playing guild wars without any drops. Everyone just levels up, and gets cool new weapons at each level. How fcking lame would that be? Cmon, you wouldn't need any skill at all. Just join a group, go kill stuff and level with everyone else. Oh and by the way, you only level once a month, so forget about trying to lvl to 99 and get the Uber Sword of DEATH.
GG Anet.
Exoudeous
wow thats a resonable reaction.
also solo farming takes no skill as a computer program can do it for you.
also solo farming takes no skill as a computer program can do it for you.
Noz Crow
Actually Gaile and the Devs have said many times that they are not against farming of any kind..........wait a minute! Continued nerfing until it is all gone......uhhhh!
Asrial
*glances at the toggle for hard mode*
*re-reads how normal mode creatures stick around a bit longer during AoE attacks*
*scratches his head in confusion and tries to figure out how solo'ing was nerfed*
*re-reads how normal mode creatures stick around a bit longer during AoE attacks*
*scratches his head in confusion and tries to figure out how solo'ing was nerfed*
Master Ketsu
Im am amoungst those who pve solod everything for fun. Im a PvP player normally, and when I needed any money I would solo. Soloing is a fun and rewarding way to gain money. Pugging is boring and doesnt give shit.
Honestly Im quite sad. I thought hard mode might give me a reason to play PvE again. But if Anet doesnt roll this back complete with a formal apology for making by the far the stupidest decision they have ever made, I may even go as far to delete all my pve chars and go straight PvP. As of today, PvE is dead to me.
Honestly Im quite sad. I thought hard mode might give me a reason to play PvE again. But if Anet doesnt roll this back complete with a formal apology for making by the far the stupidest decision they have ever made, I may even go as far to delete all my pve chars and go straight PvP. As of today, PvE is dead to me.
Iuris
You know, one minute ago, I though this change wasa bad idea. But if it angers guys like you, it just may be worth it...
Asrial
Nevermind. I guess you're talking about the treasure scaling bug.
Glints Bane
wow powerful post...very powerful. I agree with you 150%. The only thing is I don't see why you will continue to play the game. I think I have made up my mind that if they don't change it back or find a way to do something soon I will be leaving the game that I have wasted loads of time on and payed money that could go towards my college or other real things. Sorry Anet but all the other nerfs you have ever done that people complaigned about( AI change, 8v8->6v6->8v8, Soul Reaping, Minion Cap, etc) cannot even start to add up to this. You have officially blown it, and lost a player and costumer and maybe even more then just me. I loved Guild Wars but it changes to often to even have the right to hold the same name in fact it should be changed to "the game that changes just to piss you off". Sorry but thats the last of Anet...If something isn't done then I will not buy GWEN or GW2 and will tell my friends to do the same.
Mourne
*looks at all the pvpers heading to goldselling sites*
I might as well join them as there is no way that I will be able to come up with the next 50 ectos for my fissure set, oh or the weapons for my 3 new characters. So we get gold for beating things in hard mode now, what does that matter when the price of materials has gone up about...oh...4x as much (when I say materials, I mean the higher end ones).
*watches as ecto prices, shards, anything high end, and plat itself skyrockets*
I might as well join them as there is no way that I will be able to come up with the next 50 ectos for my fissure set, oh or the weapons for my 3 new characters. So we get gold for beating things in hard mode now, what does that matter when the price of materials has gone up about...oh...4x as much (when I say materials, I mean the higher end ones).
*watches as ecto prices, shards, anything high end, and plat itself skyrockets*
Glints Bane
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Originally Posted by Asrial
*glances at the toggle for hard mode*
*re-reads how normal mode creatures stick around a bit longer during AoE attacks* *scratches his head in confusion and tries to figure out how solo'ing was nerfed* |
creelie
I am confused. Can someone please state exactly what has changed?
Do gold drops now scale with group size, or what?
Do gold drops now scale with group size, or what?
WildmouseX
Waaaaaaaaaaaaa
i don't get massive ammounts of loot when i do solo farms anymore
waaaaaaaaa.
a nerf, is when A-net takes an action that makes it so you can no longer exploit something in the game... nothing they did made it so you can't solo farm.. in fact they made easier to farm by nerfing the AI's kiteing... all they did was reduce the ammout of loot, so you can go do it more without haveing to stop at the merchant every third trip out.
if anything people that like to farm, should be thanking A-net for this, we get to do more farming then we could before.
reduceing the ammount of loot, doesn't stop you fro solo farming, so the fact that you consider it a nerf, then you must coinsider what you have been doing an exploit worthy of nerfing in the first place - i say for shame on anyone who seeks to exploit anyone else.
i don't get massive ammounts of loot when i do solo farms anymore
waaaaaaaaa.
a nerf, is when A-net takes an action that makes it so you can no longer exploit something in the game... nothing they did made it so you can't solo farm.. in fact they made easier to farm by nerfing the AI's kiteing... all they did was reduce the ammout of loot, so you can go do it more without haveing to stop at the merchant every third trip out.
if anything people that like to farm, should be thanking A-net for this, we get to do more farming then we could before.
reduceing the ammount of loot, doesn't stop you fro solo farming, so the fact that you consider it a nerf, then you must coinsider what you have been doing an exploit worthy of nerfing in the first place - i say for shame on anyone who seeks to exploit anyone else.
Sk8tborderx
Mad King Corn
I think this one is going to cost them a lot of customers, for one, myself. Anet, you can keep GWEN and GW2. I really hope you really feel the impact of what you have just done to your loyal customers!
Mourne
WildmouseX, that is definatly not what nerf means...all it is, is taking something that was being used, or hell it doesn't even have to be used, and changing the effects so that it does not work as well as before.
This was definatly not a nerf to something that was an exploit...even anet has said in the past they are not against solo farming.
This was definatly not a nerf to something that was an exploit...even anet has said in the past they are not against solo farming.
Jibrail
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Originally Posted by Glints Bane
wow powerful post...very powerful. I agree with you 150%. The only thing is I don't see why you will continue to play the game. I think I have made up my mind that if they don't change it back or find a way to do something soon I will be leaving the game that I have wasted loads of time on and payed money that could go towards my college or other real things. Sorry Anet but all the other nerfs you have ever done that people complaigned about( AI change, 8v8->6v6->8v8, Soul Reaping, Minion Cap, etc) cannot even start to add up to this. You have officially blown it, and lost a player and costumer and maybe even more then just me. I loved Guild Wars but it changes to often to even have the right to hold the same name in fact it should be changed to "the game that changes just to piss you off". Sorry but thats the last of Anet...If something isn't done then I will not buy GWEN or GW2 and will tell my friends to do the same.
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MoldyRiceFrenzy
why.... i was poor anyhow... now how am i going to buy vabbi armor...????? I can't even buy vabi armor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MirageMaster
meh,you soloers deserved the nerf for 2 years now,this isnt diablo2.
ensoriki
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Originally Posted by Exoudeous
wow thats a resonable reaction.
also solo farming takes no skill as a computer program can do it for you. |
A computer program runs all of GW are you saying A-net took no skill in making it?
A computer program can do manythings a human can do, so automatically we have no skill?
A computer program can Make you breathe (iron lung) so.... Get it!?
Sk8tborderx
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Originally Posted by MirageMaster
meh,you soloers deserved the nerf for 2 years now,this isnt diablo2.
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Mourne
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Originally Posted by MirageMaster
meh,you soloers deserved the nerf for 2 years now,this isnt diablo2.
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Shuuda
I just mine, lucky for me I now have everything I want, so I get to laught all the "OMG im gonna quit this game" people. The increased the loot for hard mode and hopefully premote team playing rather than solo. There are more ways to make money that farming.
FelixCarter
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Originally Posted by MirageMaster
meh,you soloers deserved the nerf for 2 years now,this isnt diablo2.
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I agree that there should some form of deterrent for farming... But this seems a little harsh, even for me.
Perhaps ANet will review the Drop Rate again. Perhaps not. In the end, the decision is theirs.
Jibrail
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Originally Posted by MirageMaster
meh,you soloers deserved the nerf for 2 years now,this isnt diablo2.
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that's how it was for us, we would unwind after work by farming UW until the 25oct06 nerf sent most of my colleagues off to wow. at least there we can play as casually and still have fun.
see in gw, there isnt anything to do after youre done and hard mode isnt an answer to the lack of content. even wow doesnt exactly have endless content but at least you have your life skills to work on too. these are the baby steps that keep a game interesting and give you achievable goals that keep you entertained day by day.
Racthoh
Personally I don't really farm anymore so I don't really care either way, but it's something that I know many of my guildmates enjoy doing so it kills a lot of the fun for them. Guild leader can't be happy when his guild members aren't.
EPO Bot
"You're dead.
Your friends are dead.
Your family's dead.
Your fookin pets are being skinned alive.
Your mom's a skank.
You suck at life.
The whole world hates you.
You're going to hell.
Live with it.
GAME OVER "
Alas, i had to edit the original Angry Nintendo nerd quote to avoid the red engine.
Your friends are dead.
Your family's dead.
Your fookin pets are being skinned alive.
Your mom's a skank.
You suck at life.
The whole world hates you.
You're going to hell.
Live with it.
GAME OVER "
Alas, i had to edit the original Angry Nintendo nerd quote to avoid the red engine.
Corinthian
You solo farmers are all free to leave.
Us casual players will continue to have fun without you. It's not like Anet is going to go bankrupt because some few hundred angry video game nerds get pissed off and threaten to leave until they realize they can't leave because they are too addicted already.
Meh.
Us casual players will continue to have fun without you. It's not like Anet is going to go bankrupt because some few hundred angry video game nerds get pissed off and threaten to leave until they realize they can't leave because they are too addicted already.
Meh.
MoldyRiceFrenzy
i believe its more than a few hundred...
+ u'd be surprised how casual solo farming actually is compared to 8 man farming... -.-
+ u'd be surprised how casual solo farming actually is compared to 8 man farming... -.-
Corinthian
Not 8-man FARMING, 8 man-playing-the-freaking-game.
Darksun
I don't get it... I just vanquished Plains of Jarin & made over 4k, 1 gold & about 6 Purples... I think you guys are reading into this WAY too much.
Mourne
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Originally Posted by Corinthian
Not 8-man FARMING, 8 man-playing-the-freaking-game.
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How can you argue about something that doesn't even effect you.. You obviously don't like to solo farm/were bad at solo farming/don't care about solo farming, so why comment on solo farming?
Btw, where did my other post on here go...
silvershock
I used to hate Anet's nerfing stick, but I just accepted the updates like changing soul reaping and stuff, becuz whining about game changes doesn't help any1. Although I can understand your point a little, you should take into consideration they did this to make hard mode farming not too difficult to do. I actually can't wait to go farming on a 8 man trip now since solo farming is kinda not needed any more to get good loot. Be glad you don't need to spent hours playing ALONE for simple guild wars cash. Now you can finally farm with buddies without them becomming potentiol loot drainers. (sorry my greedy side) Seriously, to critice the update is 1 thing, but keep whining about is NOT needed.
ShadowStorm
Money is still easy as pie to get. Rare materials like Ectos, maybe not so much, but Money is still easy to get. If you need money, go open all the "Buried Treasures" on all your characters or go vanquish some areas in hard mode.
As far as I can tell, all this update accomplished is increasing the prestige of FoW armor and Vabbian Armor. That is all that the extremely rare materials are used for.
Conclusion: Quit whining people. This update is great.
As far as I can tell, all this update accomplished is increasing the prestige of FoW armor and Vabbian Armor. That is all that the extremely rare materials are used for.
Conclusion: Quit whining people. This update is great.
Goink
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Originally Posted by Corinthian
You solo farmers are all free to leave.
Us casual players will continue to have fun without you. It's not like Anet is going to go bankrupt because some few hundred angry video game nerds get pissed off and threaten to leave until they realize they can't leave because they are too addicted already. Meh. |
Ummm actually you're way off a$$hat, don't forget about all the extra accounts and char slots they sold(rip off) just so people can hold all their extra loot.
ANET just shot themselves in the left testicle and this is just a slap in the face after FINALLY expanding the storage. I'm not a hardcore farmer but I do it when I need some extra gold or materials for armor or what not so now this means I'm going to have to spend a lot more time on that, well why the hell bother anymore?
I've about had it with this shit4 brains operation called ANET. They always seem to find a way to spoil the fun and screw over their loyal customers in one way or another. No way I'm buying GW2, if I wanna get jerked around I'll find a $5 hooker.
Corinthian
Just give it some time and we'll see how bad/good it gets. Meanwhile, we have three campaigns to re-complete!
silvershock
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Originally Posted by ShadowStorm
Money is still easy as pie to get. Rare materials like Ectos, maybe not so much, but Money is still easy to get.
As far as I can tell, all this update accomplished is increasing the prestige of FoW armor and Vabbian Armor. That is all that the extremely rare materials are used for. Conclusion: Quit whining people. This update is great. |
Darksun
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Originally Posted by silvershock
How come their prestige is becomming greater? Sorry haven't been on guildwars again, what happened?
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Roshi_ikkyu
Farming was a legal and widely enjoyed style of game play!
What do u think PvE players did once they finished a chapter?, PvP were the elietest will only accept you if you have x-many fame.
No the started farming, your bored got nothing to do, your guildies are busy no one is GvGing or ABing... I know I'll farm.
Well now its just harder, takes alil more skill and we'll have to work at it but you know what solo farmers have survived nerfs before, and we'll survive this too.
What do u think PvE players did once they finished a chapter?, PvP were the elietest will only accept you if you have x-many fame.
No the started farming, your bored got nothing to do, your guildies are busy no one is GvGing or ABing... I know I'll farm.
Well now its just harder, takes alil more skill and we'll have to work at it but you know what solo farmers have survived nerfs before, and we'll survive this too.
erfweiss
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Originally Posted by Goink
I've about had it with this shit4 brains operation called ANET. They always seem to find a way to spoil the fun and screw over their loyal customers in one way or another. No way I'm buying GW2, if I wanna get jerked around I'll find a $5 hooker. |
Trying to lighten the mood a little, but I was in downtown Reno lately and was asked if I wanted a $2 one (by the tracks near one of the hotels). Save you a couple of bucks there. (and I didn't want to see what a $2 one looked like, either).
Personally, I didn't think the farming nerf needed to be added. Yes, their intentions are good for "money for all". However, we all enjoy the game in a different way. After all, makes it nice when I can go into a town and buy a green instead of chewing 3 hours to try to get the same one. Let the farmers enjoy doing what they like, too.
silvershock
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Originally Posted by Darksun
He means that the materials are harder to get. Therefore, more rare.
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