Doppleganger In Hard Mode
Dr.Rock
has anyone had any luck???
Marty Silverblade
Wasn't too hard, just try the same way you would normally.
Xarath
I've only tried with Ranger, but it was still as easy as before. The Doppleganger was just as stupid 
Avarre
Got bonus on first try with usual PvE skills (Inept, Backfire).
Saphatorael
He doesn't use Frenzy anymore, and actually uses stuff like Healing Breeze now... So I changed tactics...
Went Mo/W with Spirit Bond (he was hitting crits for 80 damage the whole time), Essence Bond, Balth's Spirit, Dismiss Condition... and for the offense: Sever Artery, Gash, and Dragon Slash (didn't have anything else).
I just slowly pounded at him, Spirit Bond + Dismiss was enough to keep me alive
Went Mo/W with Spirit Bond (he was hitting crits for 80 damage the whole time), Essence Bond, Balth's Spirit, Dismiss Condition... and for the offense: Sever Artery, Gash, and Dragon Slash (didn't have anything else).
I just slowly pounded at him, Spirit Bond + Dismiss was enough to keep me alive
Samurai-JM
Still easy with Locusts Fury + Vamp Daggers
Oso Minar
[skill]Vengeful Weapon[/skill][skill]Weapon of Remedy[/skill]
All you need.
All you need.
Chrono Re delle Ere
Any one can suggest me a build to defeat him into a bunch of seconds lol? Never tried it at hard mode anyway, tomorrow I will try something >.>
Aldready Dead Lich
I just did: Apply Posion, CripShot, Hunter's Shot and a lot of rituals. Just put poison+bleeding on him, then dodge some arrows and he'll die in ~30 seconds.
Glitched
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oso Minar
[skill]Vengeful Weapon[/skill][skill]Weapon of Remedy[/skill]
All you need.
Quoted for undeniable truth. 15 second kill even at 12 resto.
Also, sins can just bring shadow form, expunge enchantments, and one strong lead attack for a 6 second kill. Just let him shadow, you expunge, and pwn that last 25 health.
(haven't actually tried this)
All you need.
Also, sins can just bring shadow form, expunge enchantments, and one strong lead attack for a 6 second kill. Just let him shadow, you expunge, and pwn that last 25 health.
(haven't actually tried this)
Eldin
I personally don't know why they made the doppel bonus for hard mode two minutes. Even in hard mode, I still killed him in under 50 seconds (the normal mode bonus). If anything they should make the bonus time SHORTER for hard mode!
Boris De Pig
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glitched
Also, sins can just bring shadow form, expunge enchantments, and one strong lead attack for a 6 second kill. Just let him shadow, you expunge, and pwn that last 25 health. (haven't actually tried this)
I tried this... it was a miserable failure. He never used shadow form once, he just beat me to death.
i eventually managed it on my 'sin by going A/Me and bringing Diversion, Backfire and another long casting Mesmer skill (NOT EMPATHY), then the moebius chain Unsuspecting strike, wild strike, death blossom, moebius strike, critical strike.
This seemed to work for 2 reasons. One, he kept putting Backfire on me and 2 Diversion is completely ignored when he gets down to half health as moebius auto-recharges any dagger skills, including diverted ones. If he puts diversion on you and he's not at half health then hit something useless that will miss. and get recharged by moebius later.
On my warrior I struggled a lot until i found a cheesy build on the wiki that works so well. Signet of Stamina (cast on entry to the area) Dolyak Signet, Gladiators Defences and Deadly Riposte. Don't hit him once. just run up to him and activate Glad's, then cover glad's downtime with dolyak and spam deadly riposte. He seemed to die with a lot less effort.
the real struggle for both my wife and I at the moment is a good ele build. Please someone come up with one that works well. (and doesn't involve dodging meteor storms...)
BdP
(haven't actually tried this)
I tried this... it was a miserable failure. He never used shadow form once, he just beat me to death.i eventually managed it on my 'sin by going A/Me and bringing Diversion, Backfire and another long casting Mesmer skill (NOT EMPATHY), then the moebius chain Unsuspecting strike, wild strike, death blossom, moebius strike, critical strike.
This seemed to work for 2 reasons. One, he kept putting Backfire on me and 2 Diversion is completely ignored when he gets down to half health as moebius auto-recharges any dagger skills, including diverted ones. If he puts diversion on you and he's not at half health then hit something useless that will miss. and get recharged by moebius later.
On my warrior I struggled a lot until i found a cheesy build on the wiki that works so well. Signet of Stamina (cast on entry to the area) Dolyak Signet, Gladiators Defences and Deadly Riposte. Don't hit him once. just run up to him and activate Glad's, then cover glad's downtime with dolyak and spam deadly riposte. He seemed to die with a lot less effort.
the real struggle for both my wife and I at the moment is a good ele build. Please someone come up with one that works well. (and doesn't involve dodging meteor storms...)
BdP
blue.rellik
I found out the hard way that he doesn't use Frenzy anymore so my Warrior just bought a pet and loads of spirits and pet attacks
Wasn't the greatest build but it worked (took around 40 secs)
Wasn't the greatest build but it worked (took around 40 secs)
Steboy93
I did it on my w/mo earlier today, skills I took were:
frenzy (he doesnt use it but oh well)
holy veil(only monk skill, he always uses it, so he has constant -1 energy degen)
power attack(damage)
shield bash(im not sure)
deadly riposte(nice damage and bleeding)
watch yourself(armour)
Glads defense(use straight away, good damage and defense)
wild blow(when he uses glads use this to remove it)
Killed him in around 30-40 secs, i was only on half health at the end
frenzy (he doesnt use it but oh well)
holy veil(only monk skill, he always uses it, so he has constant -1 energy degen
power attack(damage)
shield bash(im not sure)
deadly riposte(nice damage and bleeding)
watch yourself(armour)
Glads defense(use straight away, good damage and defense)
wild blow(when he uses glads use this to remove it)
Killed him in around 30-40 secs, i was only on half health at the end
DFrost
For Me/N a combination of Price of Failure, Spirit of Failure, Empathy and Distortion worked well. Having just Backfire and Wastrel's Worry in your skillbar didn't seem to be enough anymore.
Replicant
I think i had the cheapest tactic on killing my dopple.
Went W/R with 7 spirits and frenzy.. spam frenzy and normal attacks as he sets up all 7 spirits giving you around 35 seconds of damage.. just stop using frenzy when he hits around the 5th or 6th spirit so you don't take double damage. (don't think flail will work as you won't have 4 adrenaline for about 8 seconds.. or nearly 2 spirits already down..)
killed my dopple with 1:28 left doing this.
Went W/R with 7 spirits and frenzy.. spam frenzy and normal attacks as he sets up all 7 spirits giving you around 35 seconds of damage.. just stop using frenzy when he hits around the 5th or 6th spirit so you don't take double damage. (don't think flail will work as you won't have 4 adrenaline for about 8 seconds.. or nearly 2 spirits already down..)
killed my dopple with 1:28 left doing this.
Evilsod
Afflicted Assassins only ever use Shadow Form when they're at 5-15% health, i'm assuming the Doppel will do the same. So your plain is very flawed.
Hmm, i managed to get the bonus for the Doppelganger mission. But not the Mission itself... He killed me... my pet finished him off.
Anyway, did it again... Enraged Lunge + a couple of spirits > the Doppelganger. Bring BM spirits, QZ and Call of Haste. The BM spirits should be precast, giving you a +80ish Enraged. The QZ he'll cast giving you a very fast recharging Enraged.
Hmm, i managed to get the bonus for the Doppelganger mission. But not the Mission itself...
He killed me... my pet finished him off.Anyway, did it again... Enraged Lunge + a couple of spirits > the Doppelganger. Bring BM spirits, QZ and Call of Haste. The BM spirits should be precast, giving you a +80ish Enraged. The QZ he'll cast giving you a very fast recharging Enraged.
Morgenstern
I just changed to Ranger secondary, put all into beast mastery and let pet beat him down while I dodged his arrows and used some handy pet skills. Not fast, but surefire
Kool Pajamas
I got the bonus on had mode on a few characters. Heres what I did for each
Warrior - Cheesy build but dont laugh it worked great. Mending, Auspicious perry, Deadly riposte, riposte, Balthazars spirit, shields up. put on mending and balthazars spirit before you go in. He'll use them too but the damage from the ripostes will do more than enough to counter mending. You could probably do well even without any healing or with just heal sig but it was just something I threw together that worked well.
Mesmer - The usual empathy + backfire and crud spammable skills for him to kill himself.
Monk - holy wrath and retribution and i threw in some necro health saccing stuff
Necro - health saccing and i also had empathy and backfire
Ranger - heal as one, poison bite, feral lunge, toxicity, quickening zephyr, charm animal, conflagration, fill rest with whatever spirits you got. poison + bleeding from feral + toxicity gives 8 degen, quickening zephyr allows you to spam heal as one more often if needed and also feral lunge for more damage. Just let the dopple cast the spirits. conflagration will lessen the damage to you as his arrows will be elemental damage instead of physical as you are a ranger with 100AL vs elemental. This build completely owns him. No chance of losing here as he doesnt have a pet to use the same skills.
Warrior - Cheesy build but dont laugh it worked great. Mending, Auspicious perry, Deadly riposte, riposte, Balthazars spirit, shields up. put on mending and balthazars spirit before you go in. He'll use them too but the damage from the ripostes will do more than enough to counter mending. You could probably do well even without any healing or with just heal sig but it was just something I threw together that worked well.
Mesmer - The usual empathy + backfire and crud spammable skills for him to kill himself.
Monk - holy wrath and retribution and i threw in some necro health saccing stuff
Necro - health saccing and i also had empathy and backfire
Ranger - heal as one, poison bite, feral lunge, toxicity, quickening zephyr, charm animal, conflagration, fill rest with whatever spirits you got. poison + bleeding from feral + toxicity gives 8 degen, quickening zephyr allows you to spam heal as one more often if needed and also feral lunge for more damage. Just let the dopple cast the spirits. conflagration will lessen the damage to you as his arrows will be elemental damage instead of physical as you are a ranger with 100AL vs elemental. This build completely owns him. No chance of losing here as he doesnt have a pet to use the same skills.
MercenaryKnight
When beating dopple in hm do you get another 50-100k experience reward? If so, any ideas on how to beat him with a p/w or d/mo who's aiming for legendary survivors?
I hear for paragons he now uses a spear.
I hear for paragons he now uses a spear.
Kool Pajamas
No i think its just 2k exp for mission and another 2k exp for bonus.
Steboy93
Nope you don't get another 50kexp, you get 2kexp for mission and 2k for bonus, i would advise you to keep your guys going for ledendary survivor well away from there, as even if you have a great build there is still a reasonable possibility of death
blue.rellik
Personally I wouldn't even venture into Hard Mode with someone going for Survivor unless you can find a area that you can safely farm and whatnot
-.-
For Warrior, all you need is to change your Secondary Profession to Ritualist and use the following skills:
[skill]Vengeful was Khanhei[/skill][skill]Vengeful Weapon[/skill][skill]Dolyak Signet[/skill]
[skill]Vengeful was Khanhei[/skill][skill]Vengeful Weapon[/skill][skill]Dolyak Signet[/skill]
deluxe
for my monk i used: retribution, holy wrath, order of (pain??)
Glasswalker
Takes up to 11 seconds or so.
Best Build Ever.
Best Build Ever.
Brian the Gladiator
Put empathy on your bar and that's it (even with 12 into Dom) and strafe left and right, dodging his arrows until he dies. It's so easy and the best part is, is that all you have to do is get the Mesmer secondary and empathy comes with it.
zelic
I killed him in about 8 seconds on my monk i abused his Increased attack speed went 55 monk with Spoil Victor 8 seconds later gg.
BlackRecluse
any build works. hes just that bad. weakest level 30 ive ever seen
Master Ketsu
I beat him as an oob touch ranger in <20 seconds.
He only used vamptouch back twice, and killed himself with oob in the end.
ROFLMAO @ fail AI.
He only used vamptouch back twice, and killed himself with oob in the end.
ROFLMAO @ fail AI.
Formina
E/Me: [skill]Empathy[/skill] + [skill]Blinding Flash[/skill]
~ Formina
~ Formina
Vrolijk
i've beaten him in about 50 seconds as W/N
- max tactics
- max weapon attribute
skills were
- defensive stance
- shield stance
- awaken the blood
- self sac
- self sac
- self sac
- self sac
- self sac
the dopelganger will first use all self sacrifice skills until he's very low on health, you just keep hitting him with a weapon and you will get thru his stances somtimes. this is enough to kill him pretty fast. be sure you keep the stances on yourself so he won't hit you that much.
- max tactics
- max weapon attribute
skills were
- defensive stance
- shield stance
- awaken the blood
- self sac
- self sac
- self sac
- self sac
- self sac
the dopelganger will first use all self sacrifice skills until he's very low on health, you just keep hitting him with a weapon and you will get thru his stances somtimes. this is enough to kill him pretty fast. be sure you keep the stances on yourself so he won't hit you that much.
KamikazeChicken
Mo/R
12 Marks, 12 Wilderness
15>50, 5/-1 vamp
Apply Poison, Winnowing, Favorable Winds (I didn't have),5 other 5s cast spirits.
You should be able to kill him first try. ^_^
12 Marks, 12 Wilderness
15>50, 5/-1 vamp
Apply Poison, Winnowing, Favorable Winds (I didn't have),5 other 5s cast spirits.
You should be able to kill him first try. ^_^
SoadLink
For Warrior, I changed my secondary to Necro and equipped a few sacrificing skills (Blood is Power, Dark Fury, Order of pain), as well as the warrior skills Frenzy and a powerful sword or axe adrenal skill (such as executioner's stike for the axe)
Go right at him and start swinging, let him sacrifice himself to almost 0. And when he uses frenzy, you do double damage. Dont use any of your skills, and when your adrenal skill is charged, use it and he should be dead if he hasnt died by now Took me about 10 seconds this way.
Go right at him and start swinging, let him sacrifice himself to almost 0. And when he uses frenzy, you do double damage. Dont use any of your skills, and when your adrenal skill is charged, use it and he should be dead if he hasnt died by now
ender6
With my Monk i did for my first attempt:
Empathy
BackFire
Distortion
Prot Spirit
<anything uselss>
<anything uselss>
<anything uselss>
<anything uselss>
it was slow and in the end I died...
I then decided why not 55 him? so I did a classic
SV 55 build
AotB
SV
Mending
Prot Spirit
Essence
Balz
He dropped in less than 20 secs.
Empathy
BackFire
Distortion
Prot Spirit
<anything uselss>
<anything uselss>
<anything uselss>
<anything uselss>
it was slow and in the end I died...
I then decided why not 55 him? so I did a classic
SV 55 build
AotB
SV
Mending
Prot Spirit
Essence
Balz
He dropped in less than 20 secs.
Lucifer PVP
My warrior build
Auspicious Parry
Riposte
Deadly riposte
Frenzied Defense
Just max out tactics and spam parry riposte and deadly. It is very simple and quick
Auspicious Parry
Riposte
Deadly riposte
Frenzied Defense
Just max out tactics and spam parry riposte and deadly. It is very simple and quick
caeleth
I went mo/n with order of the vampire and scourge sacrifice as well as mend ailment (for self heal)
=HT=E5Destroyer
the easy doppleganger trick. this works for all the characters i have tried. the DP (or doppleganger) uses skills from left to right as on your bar. so put crap or attunments or stuff like that first then at the end put a wopper. this way by the time he gets to the wopper you using he will be dead.
example:
elementalist use: air,fire,eath,water attunments on list then use a ress signet then i used meteor and a echo. i tore him up in under 10 seconds.
example:
elementalist use: air,fire,eath,water attunments on list then use a ress signet then i used meteor and a echo. i tore him up in under 10 seconds.
Arkantos
Just a thought, but would W/A or A/W with frenzied defence and expose defences work? If he uses FD he'll take double damage.
Lucifer PVP
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
Just a thought, but would W/A or A/W with frenzied defence and expose defences work? If he uses FD he'll take double damage.
It would work, but you could just get away with my build above if you just want to sit there and do the least amount of work