Please make Prophecies armor equal!

v o i d

v o i d

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Virtual Dragons [vD]

Dear ArenaNet,

Yesterday when i played Vizunah Square with some other nice guys, i realized how unfair the advantages are by using Factions or Nightfall armor. The other warrior (full set of Luxon 15k) and me (Gladiator 15k with Ascalon 15k boots) both had an around equal percentage of health, when an Afflicted exploded. I died, the other warrior didn't - and laughed at me. After that he said "health armor ftw".

I've played my warrior now over fourthousand hours and completed all three campaigns several times with her. I can't wait to start with hard mode soon!

However, one thing really kills my motivation: I'm completely convinced that the Gladiator's 15k armor with Ascalon Boots 15k is by far the best looking warrior armor in this game - especially when dyed silver and used with my Fellblade and Gloom Shield. However, that i can't buy them with health stats is just unfair. Why do i have to buy not so good looking armor in order to survive?

It got even worse: When i tried to play hardmode, i got kicked from a group with the following explanation: "sry, no way without health armor"
As i've heard that hard mode is really hard, i can actually understand that. But i just don't want to wear not-so-good-looking armor.

Please ArenaNet make Prophecies armor inscribable or give sets with different stats soon! Your artists have done such a fantastic job back then, please remove the downside!

Thanks in advance!

void

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by v o i d
It got even worse: When i tried to play hardmode, i got kicked from a group with the following explanation: "sry, no way without health armor"
As i've heard that hard mode is really hard, i can actually understand that. But i just don't
That likely was a bad group. +35 Health won't make-or-break a character when the HM enemies hit for 200 apiece. Gladiator Armor helps a Warrior kill faster, and the enemy that does the least damage is a dead one.

Regardless, it's your fault if you want armor with specific stats. Even Racthoh and Savio use +Health Krytan Armor...

Shadis

Shadis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

They really should make all armor universally the same, or give us the option to make our armor from previous chapters inscribable in Kamadan or something like that. Pick an armor system and stick to it, A.net!

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

The +health armor didn't save your character, and in any case +armor would be far more helpful than +health in most situations. There's nothing wrong with +energy either; I should think every warrior should have a set, because running energy-intensive builds is nigh impossible without it.

As to the actual question...as I have stated before, and has been stated in many, many threads...wait until GW:EN is released, and inscriptions are not a selling point, and we might get them in Prophecies.

Croix_Raul

Croix_Raul

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Me/

I want 15k knight with insignia.....nice graphic but don't have the insignia to back it up T.T

placebo overdose

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

N/

i dont know if this is fully relevant but if you want simmilar looking inscribable armor i would sugest vabbian

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyy High
The +health armor didn't save your character, and in any case +armor would be far more helpful than +health in most situations.
Except this one, where afflicted soul explosion is now armour-ignoring ;D

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

Ok, this is just a guess and I have zero evidence to back it up except for a single past experience. That said, it's my belief that when EotN comes out, you'll see Tyrian and Canthan armor changed to accept insignia. This belief comes from two things;

1.) the fact that materials storage was originally Cantha only and was then made available to everyone when Nightfall came out

2.) EotN takes place atleast partially in Northern Tyria and contains 40 new sets of armor (4 per class). It would be kinda silly of ANet to put the new armors into the game and NOT have them accept insignia and given the location and the fact that Dwarves are atleast partially involved in the storyline means that the technology should now be available to the rest of Tyria (or atleast Droknars, a dwarven stronghold)

Remember, this is just what I think will happen, I have no actual evidence to back it up, nor do I work for, or personally know anyone working for ANet or NCSoft.

Dj Tano

Dj Tano

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Its been discussed often, and the solution is:

Make a signle armor system for all 3 games!

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

What's greatly ironic is that +10 armor from my blessed armor is significantly better then +35 health as long as I don't have an area with a lot of armor ignoring damage or degen. For those areas, I have a second +health set.

Honestly, most armor mods are pretty even atm and in PvE, none of them are going to make or break you. People who critize and discriminate against other players for their armor/skill choices just because they want cookie cutter builds and can't think outside the box are the real noobs.

phallanxian

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

but then where is the incentive to spend more money and buy nightfall

gameshoes3003

gameshoes3003

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

I kind of find +armor better than +health because armor can make an illusion that you have more health because you take way less damage.
Anyway, +35 health won't really save you in the end. +250 health from things like Defy/Endure Pain, and Signet of Stamina will.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

You can make Hydromancer Armor with Pyromancer insignia in the PvP item creation panel.

Why not in Tyria?

This is a must. The sooner they change them, the better.

v o i d

v o i d

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Virtual Dragons [vD]

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
You can make Hydromancer Armor with Pyromancer insignia in the PvP item creation panel.

Why not in Tyria?

This is a must. The sooner they change them, the better.
Good point!

And i think 35 hp indeed make a difference! In my GW career i had a lot of moments i survived with only few hitpoints left.

bam23

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Signed so many times.

Especially with the addition of the new Glad helmet and 15k Knights. I would buy them if it weren't for the crappy stats. I'd really like to know why they actually haven't done this yet.

Replicant

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/Me

/signed!

Currently wearing and have been wearing for the past 20 months 15k Gladiators + 15k Ascalon Helm all dyed Silver..

ShadowsRequiem

ShadowsRequiem

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*

W/E

prot spirit ftw!

/signed

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

I don't see why not if they can do it for PvP char why not PvE char a little unbalance there on their part.I have a set of survivor Knights on my PvP Warrior and the insignias are in Tyria .To the OP it is not possible now to wear mixed armour as a Warrior as possibly your boots weren't covered by the absorbtion rune.You could do what Ensign does and not use one instead use rune of vitae.

legion_rat

legion_rat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

668 the neighbor of the beast

TFK

A/

/signed a universal armor system for all 3 (4) games is much needed. There are certain styles of armor that were just more apealing than others but the bonuses suck. I might make another necro for the droks armor if insignias were allowed.

~the rat~

Puebert

Puebert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

/signed.

Durr. Stick to one armor system ANet!

(Hard Mode's great BTW )

masteroflife

masteroflife

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

/ not signed

y? because each champaign has its own unique feature. Want health armor? getting a different set. u don't get everything in life. and the whining never stops.

bam23

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Making old armors inscribable would do more good than harm. Keeping it to Nightfall because it is a "unique feature" is silly.

If they really want to keep it to Nightfall, give the armor NPC's in Elona the ability to create inscription slots in existing armor.

savage vapor 33

savage vapor 33

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Regems Basement

The Malevolent Wolfpack [tMw]

Quote:
Originally Posted by masteroflife
/ not signed

y? because each champaign has its own unique feature. Want health armor? getting a different set. u don't get everything in life. and the whining never stops.
I don't agree. AS much as having its own unique feature is a great affect to the game, armor all needs to be the same. I would love to buy certain armor, but stats on it are horrible for the skillbar I want to play.

/signed.

bilateralrope

bilateralrope

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Zealand

Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)

Doesn't the inscribe nature of NF headgear mean it gets better stats that you can get in factions or prophesies ?

/signed

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Sorry, goto agree with the majority and /sign

Why oh Why are inscriptions available everywhere, but the armour to use them only in Nightfall areas....

Besides, they added an inscription free FoW set

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

I would settle for a NPC which upgrades whatever armour you are wearing to inscribable.

Maybe make it it a one off fee of 5K or 10K per completed armour set. It would work like infusion, only the NPC just makes the amour inscribable.

Raxxman

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

TEOC

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by masteroflife
/ not signed

y? because each champaign has its own unique feature. Want health armor? getting a different set. u don't get everything in life. and the whining never stops.


Yeah... please point me to the proph set that gives bonus to health...

Frozy

Frozy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

I really don't understand Anet, the whole point of the Insignia System was to allow us to mix any armor art with any armor bonus, yet only Nightfall Armor Sets get it...

As mentioned many times before, they could at least add a special NPC to Nightfall who'll upgrade your armor to allow Insignia, keeping the feature Nightfall-Exclusive but also making all the players happy, and it's really easy to add, it's a Win-Win situation, so why not?

... We should direct Gaile to this thread.

/Signed

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by masteroflife
/ not signed

y? because each champaign has its own unique feature. Want health armor? getting a different set. u don't get everything in life. and the whining never stops.
Where's the Prophecies Elementalist Set that gives energy...? Hm...?

Prophecies specialty is 'Skill quests'.
Cantha specialty are 'Experience' and 'Faction'.
Elona specialty are 'Heroes'.

Insignia is a system that amors have. PvP armor have it. Obsidian armor have it.

All armors should have it.

v o i d

v o i d

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Virtual Dragons [vD]

Nice to hear others would love a unified armor system as well.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frozy
As mentioned many times before, they could at least add a special NPC to Nightfall who'll upgrade your armor to allow Insignia, keeping the feature Nightfall-Exclusive but also making all the players happy, and it's really easy to add, it's a Win-Win situation, so why not?
Sounds excellent!

teenchi

teenchi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

PST

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

W/Mo

/signed I still use droks scar armor on my necro bc of the energy bonus, but I would love to put insignias on it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frozy
As mentioned many times before, they could at least add a special NPC to Nightfall who'll upgrade your armor to allow Insignia, keeping the feature Nightfall-Exclusive but also making all the players happy, and it's really easy to add, it's a Win-Win situation, so why not?
I really like this idea as well.

Star Gazer

Star Gazer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Zerohour Enterprises [ZHE]

W/

i REALLY REALLY REALLY want this idea to be put in place...but it will not happen. Gaile Gray said one time in one of her many visits to Kamadan that armor insignia's are related to the story line of Nightfall. I am not sure how, or if that she was just dodging the idea (like she usually does), but I still have hope...even after she said no :b

themeteor

themeteor

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

E/

it seems strange keeping it nightfall only and then letting inscribed armour walk out of Elona surely it puts people without Nightfall at a disadvantage in the content that they have paid for. plus it meant I sent that 70-80k which I don't have just lying around.

Strange Guy

Strange Guy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

MI, USA

Is Gwen Eighteen [yet]

Mo/Me

Nah, 1 way or another. You can survive better with high health but you wont be able to kill with low Energy eaither >_^ I would not say this is the advantage.

/unsign!

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

Guys, i'm 100% certain they haven't implemented this because they're doing other things, not for any other reason...

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Should be enough if they finally anounced if they are going to do i or not.

If they annouenthat they are going to do it, we wait.
If they annouce that they don't we... eh... whine?

Operations

Operations

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Saint Louis, MI (yes, it exists)

Pylons of Bastet [PofB]

E/

As suggested elsewhere, just have an NPC in Kamdan only that can upgrade foreign armor to the Nightfall system. Then people still have to buy Nightfall, but vanity and flexibility can be satisfied.

Series

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2006

/signed for this and for weapons to be able to use inscriptions. Right now, only Nightfall stuff is really worth using.

Shadis

Shadis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skuld
Guys, i'm 100% certain they haven't implemented this because they're doing other things, not for any other reason...
Which is why I really hope they take advantage of the expansion nature of EotN and not only give us a new game to play but streamline current chapters and the way things are done. If it's to be the final cap on the Guild Wars 1 world, they shouldn't hesitate to use this opportunity to fix things in the previous games they haven't had the chance to.

Hikan Trilear

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Elona specialty are 'Heroes'.
I thought this too, until I figured out they were adding heroes in EotN. so insignias and inscriptions is the only thing NF has left...