What/where to farm after HM update

Keithark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Be Aggressive B E Aggressive [AGRO]

E/Me

So where is anyone farming now after the update? I am not a pro farmer...actually I am not much of a farmer at all. I only farm to get a new set of armor, or to buy runes for a hero. I am not after FoW armor or anything like that so I don't need that much money. But the troll farm at droks stinks even worse now than before (and the mist form elly doesn't work well there in HM anyway) I would farm there get drops, go to collector and trade for the 125 gold staff then sell to merch. I don't want to spam for days to sell stuff so the nerf really hurt the casual farmer more than anything since the amount of gold and white items has decreased and that was how I made what little I made to start with. Sure gold and purples drop more in HM and that is great if you want to sell stuff all the time but I do not. So has anyone found anywhere for a casual farmer to make say 10k/hr or something?

ibex333

ibex333

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Brooklyn, NY

[EYE]

Rt/A

I'm pretty sure farming is done and over with once and for all... You cant farm anymore PERIOD. It is simply not viable because most builds are nerfed, and the ones that are left are pointless now, since you get practically nothing for killing monsters/bosses alone. and yes, that goes for green farming too. Done.. FINISHED. Rejoice if u made millions before update, and go cry if you didn't.

Just kidding. Dont cry. There are many ways to make money ASIDE from farming. Think words like the "market", "economy", etc. Hint* Hint*
People don't realize what valuable resource gwguru is with their pricechecks and sale forums...

Sk8tborderx

Sk8tborderx

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

PA

Us Are Not [leet]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ibex333
I'm pretty sure farming is done and over with once and for all... You cant farm anymore PERIOD. It is simply not viable because most builds are nerfed, and the ones that are left are pointless now, since you get practically nothing for killing monsters/bosses alone. and yes, that goes for green farming too. Done.. FINISHED. Rejoice if u made millions before update, and go cry if you didn't.

Just kidding. Dont cry. There are many ways to make money ASIDE from farming. Think words like the "market", "economy", etc. Hint* Hint*
People don't realize what valuable resource gwguru is with their pricechecks and sale forums... Farming is not dead, it is not as good, but I can still make 9-10k an hour.

I have been farming outside ice tooth cave, killing all of the minos. It takes about 20 minutes, and I make about 3-4k per run on average. (Hard mode)

AscalonWarrior

AscalonWarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Kokkola, Finland

Mo/

I found pretty nice place in Shining Jea. Minister Cho's Estate Explorable.
Take Mo/D SoJ with Mystic Regen, they drop Serpent Axes and Sephis Axes, run takes probably around 10 and 15 minutes. Got 2-3 Gold items per run

Correct Jeans

Correct Jeans

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

^MY CAT DID THAT ONCE!

Free Willzyx [MASA]

E/Me

The start of the Moddok mish. Only bandits (warriors) and one paragon. If u farm there enough u will eventually get a colossal scimitar which can be sold for almost 1 mil. And it takes much less than 1 mil minutes to get it. Its a great way to make money. But im still trying to find a build to farm corsairs in other parts besides Moddok, but I cant find a way to do it.

DvM

DvM

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Vlaardingen, The Netherlands

Survivor Squad[SS]

Go hardmode, farm ranged stuff....

Craero

Craero

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

N/

Hard Mode N/mo 55-105hp SS SoA/Shielding hands farms:

Charr at start of Nolani Academy (Can't kill Bloodbane, Red-Eye's Degen makes him hard)
Spiders south of Sunspear Great Hall (Insidious parasite to deal with Ibogas)
Minos outside of Ice Tooth Cave
Minister Cho's Estate (Insidious Parasite)
Moddok Crevice Beginning (Mending touch/Guardian helps a lot-Hide behind the wall so Bohseda can't interrupt)
Gates of Kryta Undead farming (Mending touch, Dismiss condition, or IP)
Defend North Kryta Titan Farming (Water borns use maelstrom)
Hydras to the east of augury rock (Fast meteors make them hard)
Sand Drakes outside of Elona's Reach (Quite a few locked chests in this area)

clawofcrimson

clawofcrimson

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Crimson Claw

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ice tooth cave is what I thought of instantly after the update...

Memphis Rain

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

I didn't have a lot time to play this weekend but on Saturday we (a guildie and I) ran a two men (not SS/55) FoW farming in Hardmode, we did our "usual" route, kill enough shadows to get to the skeletons, and clear out the skeletons. They were actaully easier now with everyone attack faster and harder, we were done under our usual 30 minute average time. As a result, 3 gold drops (not include chests) and 14 shards. I highly doubt this is average since we have cleared skeletons, forge, spider cave and beach altogether before and get only 14 shards, we must've been really luckly that one run. I didn't have more time to do that run again over the weekend but will definitely return to FoW again though.

And no, farming is not dead. One could probably say that when the patch first came out on Thursday and that's when the rate of all droppings are dependent on size of group, but then Anet sent out another patch which returned green drops and rare materials back to the way they were before, in which caused the rise of Ectoplasm prices to up to 11K each on Friday and dropped back down to about 8-9K on Saturday, a guildie made a kill by selling all his Ectos for 11K, made over 500K in total. Farming is still there, even better than before.

Puran Lighthart

Puran Lighthart

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

GoAnubis

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by ibex333
I'm pretty sure farming is done and over with once and for all... You cant farm anymore PERIOD. It is simply not viable because most builds are nerfed, and the ones that are left are pointless now, since you get practically nothing for killing monsters/bosses alone. and yes, that goes for green farming too. Done.. FINISHED. Rejoice if u made millions before update, and go cry if you didn't.

Just kidding. Dont cry. There are many ways to make money ASIDE from farming. Think words like the "market", "economy", etc. Hint* Hint*
People don't realize what valuable resource gwguru is with their pricechecks and sale forums... Update - Friday April 20

Loot Changes
Adjusted the following items so that they are now exempt from loot scaling:
Skill Tomes
Scrolls
Dye
Rare materials, such as Ectoplasm
Gemstones from the Domain of Anguish
All other rare (gold) items
All unique (green) items
Special event items


I don't know where you got the idea that farming is dead...in my opinion its better than it was before. Yes there was a 24 hour scare that farming would take a dive, but after this addition to the hard mode update i can't see why everyone is still crying. Sure you dont get as many of the crap drops you would have gotten before the update (ie salvage items and white items) that kept you even on a bad run in uw and other areas. But farming in both modes is benificial in thier own way. In normal mode allot of the old AoE builds are now faster then ever, and there is no more anti-farm code. In hard mode high value drops are more common, and with the right build you can farm an area effectivly for a large profit. Since friday i've found more golds in a weekend than i've found in a week any other time.

unknown1

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

hes said just kidding...

Craero

Craero

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by unknown1
hes said just kidding... He was talking about telling people to go cry if they hadn't made money before the farming nerfs. Read his entire post, His Just kidding is in the context that you can still make money through power trading. (Which would have been screwed in a few months by sharply rising prices if farming had remained in the same position as before. [Believe it or not quite a few if not most purples, golds, and ectos/rares come from massive small group/ one person farming. Examples: Dead Swords/Ectos/The Kilroy Stonekin chests fad])

Eldin

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

You can sort of trap farm the Charr at Nolani, but I always get killed by the meteor showers before I can loot.

So far most farming builds for HM are 55 monk/SS. Come on people, is there profession diversity for HM farming here?

unknown1

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Craero
He was talking about telling people to go cry if they hadn't made money before the farming nerfs. Read his entire post, His Just kidding is in the context that you can still make money through power trading. (Which would have been screwed in a few months by sharply rising prices if farming had remained in the same position as before. [Believe it or not quite a few if not most purples, golds, and ectos/rares come from massive small group/ one person farming. Examples: Dead Swords/Ectos/The Kilroy Stonekin chests fad]) i did read his post and.. um perhaps i or you got the context wrong but i believe
he was saying

Just kidding. Dont cry. (its not nerfed)
AND YOU CAN ALSO BLAH BLAH BLAH

Craero

Craero

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by unknown1
i did read his post and.. um perhaps i or you got the context wrong but i believe
he was saying

Just kidding. Dont cry. (its not nerfed)
AND YOU CAN ALSO BLAH BLAH BLAH
What I see:
Quote: Originally Posted by ibex333 Rejoice if u made millions before update, and go cry if you didn't.

Just kidding. Dont cry. There are many ways to make money ASIDE from farming. Think words like the "market", "economy", etc. Hint* Hint*
People don't realize what valuable resource gwguru is with their pricechecks and sale forums... What you seem to be seeing:

Quote:
Originally Posted by ibex333
I'm pretty sure farming is done and over with once and for all... You cant farm anymore PERIOD. Blah Blah Blah, Done.. FINISHED. Blah, Blah

Just kidding. Dont cry. Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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I've been farming GoK in Hard Mode with a 55 Monk. Lots of sephis axes and dead bows.

Quote:
So far most farming builds for HM are 55 monk/SS. Come on people, is there profession diversity for HM farming here? That's because hard mode monsters hit hard. There will be more builds to come, give it time.

Keithark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Be Aggressive B E Aggressive [AGRO]

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Farmed the mino's at lunch..I admit I am not a good farmer at all, but I was there about 30 min and did one run and only got about 2.5k so at 5k/hr it will take a lot of farming to ever amount to anything...of course the bots can farm 24/7 so guess the nerf didn't do much to them except make it so anti farming code never kicks in..so actually made them better most likely and since less actual gold drops then there will be less of it to sell but that will just make the price of it go up on ebay so it actually was a great update for farming sellers...humm GJ A-Net way to think it thru and come up with the worst possible solution

jon0592

jon0592

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

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Correct me if I'm wrong but if 55 can do it, maybe a buffed version of 130 dervish?

Eldin

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

In the meantime, if any rangers want to make chump change:

The grawl outside Port Sledge can be farmed in a manner similar to that of solo UW trap farming, or in just plain ordinary farming (reccomended you use SQ to speed things up). For the non-UW build, I usually place 3 barbed, 3 flame, and 2 dust before pulling. Naturally this only works well on regular Grawl, and not Crones due to Plague Signet.

Use something like dodge or escape to pull. The drops actually aren't that bad (made about 500g just off of two grawl, a blue bow and a gold armor that had a cheapo Sup Illusion, but merchanted a few hundred). Time consuming, but if you need a small amount of money, and want to do it in HM (seeing how it takes forever even to gather up monster drops for collectors in normal mode now), yeah.

Ectos are unaffected by loot scaling. In fact, I think they're dropping better than usual since before the nerf. In my UW run (two-man) last night I scored two, and about three dropped (none for me, but they dropped) in the New UW/Tombs (in the course of only Underworld and Scarred Earth, that's pretty quick).

Evan montegarde

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

I haven't played GW since late 2005 when they did an older 'farm nerf' by changing the AoE effects to make monsters flee, but started again a few days ago.

Question, how do you deal with the fleeing effect? Is there a skillset that involves none of it (for a 55 monk) or am I missing something? I tried minos outside Ice Cave on hard and couldn't kill a single one because of it. Thanks.

Eldin

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

Often if you shepherd enemies into a small enclosed space or a chokepoint (like at the corner of stairs), they won't flee, or at most, won't flee nearly as much as they would out in the open.

For mountain trolls, after entering the cave, there's a small room to the east (in the main troll room, not in the back where the bosses are). I would lure trolls in there when the nerf was active in normal mode.

Craero

Craero

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

N/

The easiest way is to continually wand/attack one enemy until it dies, you can however find a small corner or something such as a rock the enemies will catch on and body block them in that area.

Brian the Gladiator

Brian the Gladiator

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Michigan, USA

Us Are Not [leet]

E/

Dead Sword Farming in Hard Mode = awesome drops. You get a dead sword every 2 runs at least. I get about 2 golds per run consistently, even if they aren't dead swords.

Arabian_Night

Arabian_Night

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Pink Clan [Pink]

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What are you using to do the dead sword farm?

Puran Lighthart

Puran Lighthart

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

GoAnubis

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I still use this build, it works well....

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...&postcount=221

XBloodHoundX

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Washington State

R/Mo

I love hard mode



And this was in one run after many previous attempts pre hard mode.

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

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I've just tried farming some of Old Ascalon (Namely the Hulking Stone Elementals) with a 55 necro. Killed most of the in the area (around 40) and the two bosses and after 5 or so runs I've found 4 golds and a FoW passage scroll. I'll probably move to bigger places though

Also I've discovered that drying with a 4% morale bonus will drop you to 2 hp. At 2 hp and Prot spirit, you take no damage but your character will be moaning in pain at every single hit

Thibor

Thibor

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

A Circle of Ravens

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Quote:
Originally Posted by XBloodHoundX
I love hard mode



And this was in one run after many previous attempts pre hard mode. Whoah! Thats pretty sick. I see the skills. What are your attributes?

Keithark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Be Aggressive B E Aggressive [AGRO]

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and where is this? I have farmed in hardmode and get nowhere near that amount of drops..is that from a whole area?

Puran Lighthart

Puran Lighthart

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

GoAnubis

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Thats gotta be the dead sword farm, its still easy in hard mode (as the spirits are still only lvl 20). Plus with the anti-farm code gone you can just keep rezoning and killing them over and over. Its usually good for one gold per zone, but three is definatly a possibility. If you want my opinion, he rezoned a few times before he took that shot (just a guess though)

zorbi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

You're wrong. The antifarm code is removed from normal mode not from hard mode.

Puran Lighthart

Puran Lighthart

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

GoAnubis

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Quote:
Miscellaneous
The price of keys that previously cost 1,500 gold have been reduced to 1,250 gold.
The first-person camera has been adjusted to allow players to more easily play in first-person mode. Scrolling with the mouse wheel still allows you to leave first-person mode, however, you must now scroll a little more than before.
Loot now scales according to party size.
Repeated map entry no longer reduces loot.
Made preparations for the Double Sunspear Points and Double Lightbringer Points weekend event.
Removed the Wintersday 2006 Championship Trophy.
Added the Celestial Tournament 2007 Championship Trophy.
The Xunlai Tournament House NPC has returned to the Great Temple of Balthazar, Lion’s Arch, Kaineng Center, and Kamadan to reward players with their Celestial Tournament prizes No, your wrong, the anti-farm code has been removed from both modes. The AoE AI has only been removed from Normal mode, maybe your just confused.

The Great Al

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

ALOA

E/Me

Why can't I seem to find the guy that gives the quest necessary to farm this?

Puran Lighthart

Puran Lighthart

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

GoAnubis

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http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Destroy...rateful_Slaves

the guy is in the Shattered Ravines

Levi Garett

Levi Garett

Old School Nub

Join Date: Jun 2005

ABQ, NM

Guildless

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Great Al
Why can't I seem to find the guy that gives the quest necessary to farm this? You probably already completed the quest...

Destro Maniak

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2006

A/

I tried that dead sword quest but I died. I only killed 1-2 spirit. And how can you loot so many items as I didnt got that many enemy at once.

BTW where is best gold/hour for 55hp as merching isnt good anymore I can earn from making people id golds

Puran Lighthart

Puran Lighthart

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

GoAnubis

W/Me

with the dead sword farming, after you kill that first group, two groups run in. Once you kill one of those groups, another runs in for a total of five groups of slave spirits each zone.

XBloodHoundX

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Washington State

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Puran Lighthart
If you want my opinion, he rezoned a few times before he took that shot (just a guess though) Nope! No BS, that was one run. I was pretty excited since i had been doing the run for a long time before Hard Mode was release and had not even seen 1 dead sword.

sumasage

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by XBloodHoundX
Nope! No BS, that was one run. I was pretty excited since i had been doing the run for a long time before Hard Mode was release and had not even seen 1 dead sword. Rezoning will "delete" any drops so that was from one run

Puran Lighthart

Puran Lighthart

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

GoAnubis

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Quote:
Originally Posted by sumasage
Rezoning will "delete" any drops so that was from one run no kidding....really?
To prove a point to a guild member (another story entirely) i had taken a similar photo...but i rezoned several times and picked up the loot each time (at least the good loot). When i was done, i dropped it all and took the screen shot.

Not to say i don't belive you bloodhound....grats on the luck!