Will improvements to trade ever appear as mentioned repeated before?

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Engel the Fallen
Lion's Arch Merchant
#1
It is assumed with the new loot system, that people will be trading these items.

However the much discussed improvements to trade pre-factions, over a year later has yet to appear in any way shape or form.

So is there even a timeline for this? Or was this totally dropped altogether?

Or were these improvements added and just no one noticed?

Hopefully someone from ANET will respond and let us know if we are expected to resort to offsite trading or W-T-S spamming in outposts as our only means of trade for the duration of the life of this game, and possible the next one as well.
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Dallus
Academy Page
#2
i kinda feel that they thought that adding a little short text thing in a zone was good enough... obviously its not working well.
Trakata
Trakata
Crimson King
#3
I really, really doubt we'll see anything efficient in GW. Maybe GW2.
Fender
Fender
Krytan Explorer
#4
The key is to lower your expectations so low that ANYTHING they do to improve trade will knock your socks off. I expect them to do absolutely nothing about the absolutely horrible trade situation in GW1.
Alias_X
Alias_X
Desert Nomad
#5
The trade situation isn't horrible... it is organized chaos.
Bryant Again
Bryant Again
Hall Hero
#6
Nope. Never gonna be improved.
Kuldebar Valiturus
Kuldebar Valiturus
Desert Nomad
#7
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Originally Posted by Alias_X
The trade situation isn't horrible... it is organized chaos.
Hmmm, well, "organized" drudgery as well.

Don't get me wrong, people manage to come together and trade no matter what. Hell, trade and bartering occurs in prisons, war zones and unlit back alleys; so no matter how harsh the environment, trade happens.

But, trade in Guild Wars is like pulling teeth. We don't have a global system so it's limited solely to a single district and outpost location.

The new trade listing function is...anemic and has had no real impact on the sheer amount of chat text eaten up by WTS/WTB's along with the applicable item descriptions.

Even if we never get an Auction House, the ability to shift-click item info into certain chat channels would be a HUGE improvement. I think if we can shift-click build templates into a chat line, we should be able to do the same for an item.
XvArchonvX
XvArchonvX
Forge Runner
#8
There's no timeline that I know of. The only word I've heard on it is posted on www.Wiki.GuildWars.com
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Upcom...s_and_features

I'm still waiting for them to fix Keen Arrow, let alone implement the bow skill changes that Gaile talked long ago. However, I doubt A-net is just sitting around, maintaining an online world, creating an extension for it, and creating a whole new one can't be easy. I do respect all the work they put into this game. But a fix to Keen Arrow would still be nice *hint hint, poke Gaile poke*
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Navaros
Forge Runner
#9
I remember Anet saying just before Sorrow's Furnace came out that "Trade improvements were not promised in this update [referring to the Sorrow's Furnace update], but will come in a future update."

Of course, "the future" never actually comes since it is not a tangible thing.
Feminist Terrorist
Feminist Terrorist
Desert Nomad
#10
I seriously doubt we will see any major, efficient, trade improvements in this game.
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Engel the Fallen
Lion's Arch Merchant
#11
The problem with trade is, from Gaile's post about the changes in farming, ANET assumes we have a reasonable system to already trade. With is laughable.

And yeah the improvements to trade stuff was much talked about even in Gaile logs back around Sorrow's Furnace / Pre-Factions.

Now with GW2 on the horizon, odds are W-T-S spam is the best means of trading in the game. Well outside of those illegally running trade bots who act like overzealous floor sales people. Since I gave up trading not sure if they still exist, but was run goto into an AC distract and having a swarm of people randomly open trades with you asking to trade with broken English in the US districts.


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Here's how we've provided a new way for advanced players to make as much money as they did before: by introducing new items which will have a high demand from other players and thus high trade value, and then by making those items completely unaffected by loot scaling, so that solo farmers still have very effective ways to make a lot of money, but so that they make their money without hurting the game's economy.
One major change to solo farming is ANET assumes we have a reasonable way to trade our high demand items, which we currently do not and it appears will never have.
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Angel's Sorrow
Ascalonian Squire
#12
They INDIRECTLY claim there is no grind in GW like in wow but we have to grind to just trade our items. Quite the irony. Even more of an irony is that copying the trade system from other grinding mmogs would diminish this grind. hah

Who knows...Maybe Anet gets some "funds" from trading forums and sites that profit from gw players looking to trade something.
But cheers...From years on now you will enjoy the label of "one of the worst trade systems ever made in mmogs"
Miral
Miral
Jungle Guide
#13
hmm every new product brings with it a new feature as a freebie whether you buy the product or not. with factions we got battle isles and somethign else which i forget... with nightfall we got pvp equipment menu, henchmen flags, and armor with interchangeable modifiers (insignias slots on FoW armor). perhaps with GWEN we will get some sort of trade board or something? or maybe set up an afk trade mode where your character basically turns into a merchant?
Yawgmoth
Yawgmoth
Furnace Stoker
#14
Real trade improvements coming to GW? That would be waaaay too good to be true.

People have been asking for them since early betas. But after over 2 years nothing really changed, this area of the game is probably the only one that got almost untouched by upgrades. Everyone has seen the insane WTS/WTB spamfest live 24/7 in biggest towns. Its really a shame that it's the only way trading can be done ingame. (let's ignore the party search thing for trading purposes, it's really bad at it)

After the tons of game improvements and fixes we have been getting since release, especially those in the last few months, I have to say that the only one remaining, the Number 1 Big PvE Issue is the lack of a decent trading system. Everything else is sooo small and minor compared to this.
arcanemacabre
arcanemacabre
Grotto Attendant
#15
IMO, real trade improvements would be better than most events, storage increases, minipets, party search, and just about any other added "feature" I'm sure they worked long and hard on. Yeah, so... take that to the bank!
jackie
jackie
/retired
#16
That's why Ventari's Sell & Guru Auction is the way to go!

But yeah, I think developers might have decided long time ago that these fancy upgrades such as Auction House and what nots will be introduced in the sequel.
aaje vhanli
aaje vhanli
Krytan Explorer
#17
The Party Search interface would work wonders if only people would USE IT.
Iuris
Iuris
Forge Runner
#18
Agreed. Whenever I have trade on my mind, I first chech the party screen...
Rhedd
Rhedd
Wilds Pathfinder
#19
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Originally Posted by aaje vhanli
The Party Search interface would work wonders if only people would USE IT.
Actually, I used to think the exact same thing, until I actually tried to use it once.

The allowed line of text is so small that the system is essentially useless for anything but the simplest of items.
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Engel the Fallen
Lion's Arch Merchant
#20
I do not see why people would complain about this game being more WoW like with centralized trade, because they do not even have the best trade system. EVE's trade system is the best I seen in any game.

Oh well, we get fireworks and new pets. Surely they are far more important than being able to trade your items. Sure we can use stuff like this site to trade, but we are only the vocal minority. Pity for the vast majority then who only can trade spam, or worse yet, just sell there greens to the merchants or have 100k+ items on their heroes because they do not have hours to WTS in towns.