Second Birthday miniatures are out!

Ferret

Ferret

Elite Guru

Join Date: Jul 2005

England

Ferrets Unity of Rogues (FUR)

R/Mo

Wintersday Elf as a mini-pet...OMG, please shoot me now

That must get the vote for worst pet ever.

Zedd Kun

Zedd Kun

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Bretheren Of Chaos [Dark]

Rt/

New pets?! SO disappointed!!

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

*hopes for mini shiroken*

the new minis are quite cool though

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

No one lied. No one promised anything. Until recently we didn't even confirm there would be a gift. Now, if you can show me where we "promised" something other than a mini, I'd like to see it.

Can't?

Didn't think so.

As to why there is a birthday mini, well, we conducted numerous polls in several langauges, but there was there was no clearcut "other thing" called out by fans. Sure, there were about a hundred ideas, but none of them were resoundingly the conclusive "vote of the masses" for a birthday gift. In the collected votes, miniatures were a very highly-rated choice, and received more votes than any other single alternative. In the end, the designers chose something that they felt would be fun and enjoyable, and something that players can keep, sell, or trade, as they see fit.

It's a gift. Enjoy it, or not, but please get over the negative attitude, it contributes nothing to the discussion here.

Sophitia Leafblade

Sophitia Leafblade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Dragon Slayer Guild [DSG]

R/

Thanks Anet, i love the new minis but i still cant see my mini Saidra amongst them *hopes for 1 one day*

Etta

Etta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mancland, British Empire

What about a mini Gaile Gray?

reetkever

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/E

Well so far the mini pets look awesome!

Anyone knows what the purples/golds/greens are, if they excist?

*hopes for a miniature Ettin/Tengu*

Darn I love that Aatxe and Juggernaut. (Add luckily, the fire imp is not an Ice Imp, cause Ice Imps aren't exactly... loved :P

Nexus Icon

Nexus Icon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Natis Ignigena

Me/

The reason I can't show you Gaile is that the Game and Dev tracker forum on this site is completely impossible to search.
However, I am absolutely positive that you did say that second birthday presents would be different after birthday miniatures were released last year.

As for one clearcut thing, I am of the opinion that the way the polls were conducted was incorrect, and obviously gave you the option to use the easy way out.
Instead of offering multiple different options, they should have asked:
"Do you want miniatures for your second birthday, yes or no?".

I am positive that you would have received an overwhelming "No" vote.

B.N

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2007

Texas, USA

Four Star C Force

R/

I agree with Gaile on this, people need to get over their selfish attitude and deal with whatever happens. If Anet fails at anything its your own opinion. They work hard to bring everyone such a wonderful game, so at least get over your disappointments.

Simple, if you don't want your mini, sell it to some new player.

udk-birDy

udk-birDy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Etta
What about a mini Gaile Gray?

Ahahahahaha , that would be very FUNNY !!!

Necro Niazriv

Necro Niazriv

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

E/N

no miniglint?

Edge Martinez

Edge Martinez

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

NC

DKL

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
It's a gift. Enjoy it, or not, but please get over the negative attitude, it contributes nothing to the discussion here.
Gaile, I think it's just some people. Someone on here had said it best, and I forget who, but they said, Even the people who complain about the minis are secretly happy when they get one. I've played numerous online games and never got a single thing I didn't have to pay for, so really... Thank you to all over there responsible for it.

Mr. G

Mr. G

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

S. Wales

Mo/Me

Quote:
Can't?

Didn't think so.
Hey you didnt even give us a chance ^ ^

Bah my birthdays are way off...I LOVE the jugg thou (being proudly kurzick)

Rhedd

Rhedd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

You ever have to clean up after a Moa bird?

True Solunastra [SLA] Profession: Moa Wrangler

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miral
oooo neat. so thats the thorn wolf? I like it!

on a seperate note, did you do modding work for the elderscrolls?
Yep. I did a bunch of head and hair mods for Morrowind, and worked professionally on the Shivering Isles expansion for Oblivion.

And I think I forgot to say, I'm PERFECTLY happy with new minipets! I've been looking forward to them for the whole year. ^_^

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nexus Icon
The reason I can't show you Gaile is that the Game and Dev tracker forum on this site is completely impossible to search.
However, I am absolutely positive that you did say that second birthday presents would be different after birthday miniatures were released last year.
Then I suggest you stop bashing people without any supporting evidence. How about that, huh?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nexus Icon
As for one clearcut thing, I am of the opinion that the way the polls were conducted was incorrect, and obviously gave you the option to use the easy way out.
Instead of offering multiple different options, they should have asked:
"Do you want miniatures for your second birthday, yes or no?".

I am positive that you would have received an overwhelming "No" vote.
You think?

If such poll's existed, I highly doubt people would've voted "no". Why? Because when a poll asks "Do you want this?" and gives 2 choices of yes and no, it could mean that if you choose "no", you won't get ANYTHING.

ss1986v2

ss1986v2

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/

i love the mini cow! i must have.

Ferret

Ferret

Elite Guru

Join Date: Jul 2005

England

Ferrets Unity of Rogues (FUR)

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacheelma
If such poll's existed, I highly doubt people would've voted "no". Why? Because when a poll asks "Do you want this?" and gives 2 choices of yes and no, it could mean that if you choose "no", you won't get ANYTHING.
I did run a poll on a second birthday choice and gave options, including pets.
There was a CLEAR favourite and it wasnt mini-pets, in fact, mini's were mostly on the 'please no' lines.
Here is the link: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10125747
I dont say this to complain or that i am unhappy, i just ran a neutral poll that offered up the most popular requests as options.

I have nothing against Gaile, in fact she has helped me out in the past, but i do think she over-reacted a little with her comment/post. You have to understand some people will always be unhappy with the choices that were made, even if nothing had to be offered at all.

Either way we have mini-pets now, and some will be great and some will suck, some will allow their lucky owners to earn vast sums of gold, others wont. It would be nice to see an official list of what new pets there are.

I just hope i dont get a mini-elf, they look so damn ugly when you use tonics, let alone as a pet. Many of the others shown so far in this thread do look very nice though.

jackie

jackie

/retired

Join Date: Dec 2005

On the Beach

Gief mini-dolyak <3

Btw. Kanaxai is regional mini-pet and not 2nd birthday prezzie, only 26 of them around though.

Infinity^

Infinity^

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

House Behelit

R/

You never get what you want for your birthday, that's just life.





Anyone want to buy a minipet?

=HT=E5Destroyer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

south carolina

hazteam

W/Mo

my character has been around since the beta. how come i have not got a gift yet? when i do /age it says 23 months.

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

Wow..Minipet Elf.You're a little late there.And its a pretty terrible Minipet.

nuetina

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by =HT=E5Destroyer
my character has been around since the beta. how come i have not got a gift yet? when i do /age it says 23 months.
You might have to wait a day or two unless you made the character the day came out.

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by =HT=E5Destroyer
my character has been around since the beta. how come i have not got a gift yet? when i do /age it says 23 months.
FYI: 2 years = 24 months. And beta time doesn't count. How comes you've been with the game THIS long and not know that?

Alderin

Alderin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
As to why there is a birthday mini, well, we conducted numerous polls in several langauges, but there was there was no clearcut "other thing" called out by fans. Sure, there were about a hundred ideas, but none of them were resoundingly the conclusive "vote of the masses" for a birthday gift. In the collected votes, miniatures were a very highly-rated choice, and received more votes than any other single alternative. In the end, the designers chose something that they felt would be fun and enjoyable, and something that players can keep, sell, or trade, as they see fit.

It's a gift. Enjoy it, or not, but please get over the negative attitude, it contributes nothing to the discussion here.
You might actually get some input on your 'polls' if you asked for opinions on the forums, took the most suggested ones and then oh say made a poll on the Guild Wars website for people to vote so players could vote on it and see the results.

Whether you like people being negative or not it doesn't really matter as you are the one that's supposed to listen to everyone's point of views and relay them to the Dev's right? If you are only paying attention to just the ones you want to listen to then that is being more than a bit biased and goes against the claims of listening to the playerbase. People complained about mini-pets for quite some time and the pets keep comming and if you choose to not listen to all the people showing their dislike of them then that explain why there are so many mini-pets still being made.


As for me, I'm hoping to get an Aatxe. ^_^

Naliah Alexis

Naliah Alexis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

England

[Kweh]

R/Mo



Mini Djinn

J.Kougar

J.Kougar

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

How disappointing.

If they were going to just release more useless mini-pets to clog up our storage boxes, the least they could have done was pick some cool enemies to make miniatures of, and not the really really really bad selection of stuff almost nobody wants that they did pick.
Why not popular and/or cool creatures like Mursaat, Griffons, other Charr besides the Shaman, Nightmares, Skeletons, Smoke Phantoms, Hellhounds, Wraith, or any of the other decent monsters out there... why the unpopular crap they did select like Palawa Joko, Wintersday Elf, Harpy, etc.?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Etta
What about a mini Gaile Gray?
That's just cruel. Nobody deserves to have her follow them around all the time.

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
How ungrateful! A.net didn't need to give you or anyone else anything at all. Mini-pets are a free gift, nothing more. We should be please A.net even gave us anything.
Eah, actually I have to disagree with you there. See, ArenaNet is a company that makes money by selling it's game to people, and keeping those people happy and enjoying the game so that they keep buying the new expansions/campaigns and keep picking up more things like extra character slots and such. That's how they continue to make money and stay in business, and they can't do that if the customer's aren't happy. If they never went out of their way to give you anything special to counter all the times they make huge nerfs, cause bugs and glitches that destroy hours of hard work, and fail again and again to provide the frequently requested additions to the game instead of the side things they do add that no one ever asked for in the first place. Currently, a lot of people are unhappy with how Guild Wars has been going the last six months or so, and a lot have left. It's clear to see how unhappy the majority of the community is if you look over forums like this, so ArenaNet has to keep trying to keep the customers pleased so that they keep buying and the company continues to make a profit. After all, without a profit you have no company at all.

Sophitia Leafblade

Sophitia Leafblade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Dragon Slayer Guild [DSG]

R/

I bet the Djinn is a gold one since alot of people wanted one in the suggestion threads. If it is that just makes one more common one and we have the entire set worked out (is there is the exact same amount as there was last year)

Woot there we go i was right its gold so the List comes to:

White:

* Aatxe
* Fire Imp
* Harpie
* Heket
* Juggernaut
* Mandragor Imp
* Thorn Wolf
* Wind Rider

Purple:

* Christmas Elf
* Koss
* Palawa Joko

Gold:

* Lich Lord
* Water Djinn

Green:

* Gwen

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

A majority of those Minipets are pretty terrible.

/sigh

Anet had so many better things they could have made Minipets.

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacheelma
FYI: 2 years = 24 months. And beta time doesn't count. How comes you've been with the game THIS long and not know that?
mabay he hasnt watched his clock for the last two years, or deosnt really care who knows

J.Kougar

J.Kougar

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alderin
Whether you like people being negative or not it doesn't really matter as you are the one that's supposed to listen to everyone's point of views and relay them to the Dev's right? If you are only paying attention to just the ones you want to listen to then that is being more than a bit biased and goes against the claims of listening to the playerbase. People complained about mini-pets for quite some time and the pets keep comming and if you choose to not listen to all the people showing their dislike of them then that explain why there are so many mini-pets still being made.
Very well said. No offence to Gaile, but this is where I feel she fails most at her job. She just can't seem to keep her own personal bias's out of the game long enough to convey accurate information about how the community feels about things to that the Devs and Programmers so that they can make the changes that they need, and not just the ones that she wants. I know it's not what people want to hear, but when you stop and look at all the contradictory quotes from her that get posted around again and again, and how she tends to handle situations like this one... well, I just think she could be doing a little better job than she is. Sorry, just my take on it... guess I've just been in Retail and Business far too long to not nit pick at bad customer service.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Mini-Djinn anyone?

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

All my monky wants is a mini dying nightmare. come on plzz there has to be one. I mean it was her suggestion long ago that made that interesting add to UW.

=HT=E5Destroyer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

south carolina

hazteam

W/Mo

just got it.lol

Lauryn

Lauryn

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

R/

I would love a mini Gwen *drools* just imagine how much that would sell for lol

Kas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

*shrugs*
A-Net has a habit of reading the opinions of the Fanbase and then doing something else. One may wonder where they get their information from.

The community had a poll about alternatives towards 2nd birthday gifts and they showed a great deal of frustration and desinterest towards Minipets. Interestingly enough A-Nets statement was "the community is highly interested in new minipets".
There were raging Lightbringer Title Debates about it being too much of a grind and sadly a requirement for later PVE. Yet again "the Lightbringer and Sunspear Titles were well received".
Heroes Ascent players begged for a long time to get their PVP mode fixed again from crappy and not working 6vs6 to 8vs8. Somewhere in this time A-Net proclaimed that the 6vs6 change was well received. And even when they reimplemented 8vs8 they kept the broken mechanism that keeps it just as unplayable. And once again they say the community wanted it that way.

One can only wonder where they get their information from.

Cassandra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sophitia Leafblade
Woot there we go i was right its gold so the List comes to:

White:

* Aatxe
* Fire Imp
* Harpie
* Heket
* Juggernaut
* Mandragor Imp
* Thorn Wolf
* Wind Rider

Purple:

* Christmas Elf
* Koss
* Palawa Joko

Gold:

* Lich Lord
* Water Djinn

Green:

* Gwen
where would you put Koss in there? is he purple?

Sophitia Leafblade

Sophitia Leafblade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Dragon Slayer Guild [DSG]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cassandra
where would you put Koss in there? is he purple?
Yup hes purple and he is in the list

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

....I got a mini heket...

Marth Reynolds

Marth Reynolds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

The Lore Enforcers

Me/A

Not to shabby to be honest, altough i really expected a mini azure shadow :P

only hate the elf atm so i'm hping that in 3 months time my war won't get it

Etta

Etta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mancland, British Empire

Wow! there's even a mini Gwen for real! lol Is that the complete list, Sophitia?