Mass error 7 :D

Pkest

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Hooded Reavers of Eternal Life(Ankh)

R/

lost at least 13k toward lucky...sigh.

Polgara Darshiva

Polgara Darshiva

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cape Town, South Africa

Mind Sport SA [MSSA]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coridan
this is bullshit....i mena come on now that the title make a difference in game play they put in an AFK check? what about all those other players that are reaping the rewards of getting a seemingly worthless title the last 3-4 times they had rings...the only way to get a good title track is to AFK rings...the winnings are so small that it takes a good long time to get anything.....lost points that i had gotten even when i wasnt afk....stupidstupidstupid.....btw I am on American Servers....played for a few hours last night...then went afk around 11:30pm Est in dist 14 of Shing Jea.....total bs
As I said to your post in the the other thread....

It's not an AFK check. It was a roll back. People who were not AFK got DC'd and rolled back as well.

She should never have said what she said and you can more than likely expect a retraction.

Gen Saver

Gen Saver

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Belgium

Banished Dragons (BaD)

E/

lost about 30k points for my lucky title, sigh...

what happened anet?

Psuedo Halgoen

Psuedo Halgoen

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

GMT+10

Quote:
Originally Posted by Polgara Darshiva
As I said to your post in the the other thread....

It's not an AFK check. It was a roll back. People who were not AFK got DC'd and rolled back as well.

She should never have said what she said and you can more than likely expect a retraction.
Exactly Polgara.
She shouldn't have said what she did, I have no idea what would have possessed her to say it. However, it does make for an entertaining read....ie Evilsod & Coridan.

<3

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Polgara Darshiva
As I said to your post in the the other thread....

It's not an AFK check. It was a roll back. People who were not AFK got DC'd and rolled back as well.

She should never have said what she said and you can more than likely expect a retraction.
I stand corrected.....and thank you for pionting that out to me....its really bothersome since I only get to play a few hours here and there.....for me to waste 3-4 of those hours trying to get a title that is impossible to get without afking and wasting game time is extremely frustrating...so much for the casual gamers....and no i am not truely whinning..i am not threating to quit etc...i just think that a better way should be introduced to earn these title...250 pts per saved lock pick is ridicously low.....i have spent well over 40 of the dang things and rarely save any...and i have R3 chest title.....

Miss Persephone

Miss Persephone

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

I can confirm this doesn't just happen in European servers. I play on american, but went into international to afk while I slept.

Woke up this morning with the character selection screen - no 'error 7 would you like to reconnect' message or anything; lucky/unlucky titles reset, and an electricity bill that is now higher since I left my comp on doing sweet F A all night.

This happened at the last boardwalk event too. This, and the fact that someone 'forgot' to add cupcakes when the event started. This bodes really ill for the future of GW1, when a really simple event like this gets messed up.

EDIT: btw, this wasn't a 'mass' thing, it seemed to happen to people at random. My boyfriend was in the same district, afked the same amount of time and he didn't get disconnected and kept all his title progress. Only difference was that I was playing cheap rings, he was playing expensive ones

I've submitted a support ticket, I recommend anyone else who experienced this does the same.

Tazaki

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

USA

Ryu Ryu [Life]

Mo/

On US servers and lost over 1k Unlucky points. Those things arent that eary to get either. So they give us a title thats clearly a grind title and then decide they dont want us to afk it. So yeah they must not want or expect anyone to max either out anytime soon if thats how they're going to be.

I knew something was off when I one: had to log back in, two: was back to the 3 stacks I had last night rather then seeing something like the six I had before going to bed.

/sigh

They need to get things straight cause thats just annoying.

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

It got me too again and i was in american district 17. Getting really annoying.

Miss Persephone

Miss Persephone

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

*sigh* my post got deleted when I tried to edit it >.<

I can confirm this doesn't just happen in European servers. I play on american, but went into international to afk while I slept.

Woke up this morning with the character selection screen - no 'error 7 would you like to reconnect' message or anything; lucky/unlucky titles reset, and an electricity bill that is now higher since I left my comp on doing sweet F A all night.

This happened at the last boardwalk event too. This, and the fact that someone 'forgot' to add cupcakes when the event started. This bodes really ill for the future of GW1, when a really simple event like this gets messed up.

Btw, this wasn't a 'mass' thing, it seemed to happen to people at random. My boyfriend was in the same district, afked the same amount of time and he didn't get disconnected and kept all his title progress. Only difference was that I was playing cheap rings, he was playing expensive ones

I've submitted a support ticket, I recommend anyone else who experienced this does the same.

GEXTE

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

yours maybe?!?

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by tifaRockheart


Just came from Gaile tonight... this is probably what's happening

I got kicked just now too and had a roll back also. I asked around and i was the only one. So yeah, they got an afk check i guess...

gg, you support botting now???
The only thing that this will do is have people write a script that changes the zone every 4-6 hours, so they won't get kicked for being afk. Good job!

Goddess Wills

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

New York

Currently Looking For Guild - PM ME!

E/

I haven't read this whole thing, so idk if this has been mentioned (I'm sure it has) but after reading the first page I figure I should mention this

I AM on the AMERICAN server, and I DID experience the rollback as did a number of other people.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Grr... do some people not even bother reading the other posts in this thread. It's already been confirmed that it was NOT an afk check. Heck, the explination is like 3 posts above me.

Tazaki

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

USA

Ryu Ryu [Life]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Grr... do some people not even bother reading the other posts in this thread. It's already been confirmed that it was NOT an afk check. Heck, the explination is like 3 posts above me.
Honestly with a thread spanning multiple pages, theres no way i'll sit down and read every post. So no I dont expect people to read all the posts either.

If it starts happening more then once to people we'll know whether or not its data corruption. But really, why do we only see this issue when the boardwalk comes around? We dont have d/c and rollbacks on normal days or during the other weekend events.

Psuedo Halgoen

Psuedo Halgoen

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

GMT+10

Who confirmed it Hawk? Was it gaile? Because the last statement we have from gaile, an anet employee is two posts above yours. Where she says that rollbacks "May be connected with AFK'ing".

*Alexiel*

*Alexiel*

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

England, and on here... http://alexiel-star.deviantart.com/

CPx

R/Mo

I'm on euro and was on the rings all night, I didn't get this rollback thing, so I'm guessing It is at random? =s I just hope it doesn't happen again. Though I have been kicked out by anet twice and lsot a couple of hours.

Socrates The Mauler

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/Mo

This happened last time to me during the celestial pig event. There was no mention of an AFK check then.

Here is that thread

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...71#post2577571

Soldat

Soldat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

TX

Fashion Police [chic]

I'll also say I was on American servers at the boardwalk and I woke up, the rollback having affected me too. Took a screen of my progress, went to bed, woke up, and I had lost around 5k lucky and enough unlucky to put me exactly at 5,000. Not as bad as some other people, but still a waste of time.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Polgara Darshiva
As I said to your post in the the other thread....

It's not an AFK check. It was a roll back. People who were not AFK got DC'd and rolled back as well.
She should never have said what she said and you can more than likely expect a retraction.
REALITY CHECK ALL YOU ROLLBACK FANS

@ Polgara Darshiva a rollback is the entire game not individuals.

we have had that one big rollback when everybody was of for the better part of a day.

stop spewing rollback rumors when the game was not rolled back and wait until they actually can find what is wrong and fix it.

The_Skull

The_Skull

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Netherlands

Lovers Of Whiskey And Women [LWW]

N/

It seems it had something to do with the update last night.

I am on European Server (English-1) and my stats got rolled back to just before the update. Maybe they kicked the wrong people who were playing the good version at that time. At least I have no clue.

Nonetheless I lost around 23K Lucky points in the process. So a big waste of time this way, I did get all my tickets back but still.

Hopefully A-net comes with a statement coz I an curious to know what exactly happened.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

well last time this happened, people lost progress on the american server, O.o

zerulus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

I remember losing some progress the last time the boardwalk was here, but no problems this time. Have had my character afk for like 15 hours with no problem.

unknown1

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

i dunno if i got my omney back, didnt look at my title/tickets before but most likely, but kinda of doesn't look like it.

anyways yeah got rolled back i dunno how much =(

Polgara Darshiva

Polgara Darshiva

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cape Town, South Africa

Mind Sport SA [MSSA]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
REALITY CHECK ALL YOU ROLLBACK FANS

@ Polgara Darshiva a rollback is the entire game not individuals.

we have had that one big rollback when everybody was of for the better part of a day.

stop spewing rollback rumors when the game was not rolled back and wait until they actually can find what is wrong and fix it.
People's accounts were reverted back 2-8 hours. That to me under any deffinition is a roll back, not a bug.

It's very possible that since their last game wide roll back they learnt from their mistakes and don't need to roll back the entire world and inconvenience everybody. It's very likely that only people playing on certain servers where there might have been an exploit had their accounts rolled back.

Somebody already mentioned that there might have been an exploit with cupcakes in the arena(s). Can anybody else confirm this?

unknown1

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

afking exploit?

wakimon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Philippines

Mo/

just dont set your status to AWAY.. i had mine running for about 8hrs and nothing happened then i got back change my status to away, after 2hrs i checked my PC and find out i got booted. when i log in my tickets and points wer rolled back to the same value when i change my status to away.

unknown1

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

i wasnt away. i was always online.. and it happend to me

Jongo River

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

It's nothing to with being AFK or playing ring games - I don't waste my time on those and it happened to me.

As I said earlier, I left the room for a couple of minutes to answer the door. I'd just been at the merchant and then to Xunalai - when I came back, I'd been rolled back a couple of minutes (the stuff I'd just merched was back in my inventory). I know it was only a couple of minutes, because I'd only just farmed that stuff. Some bug or fault caused some us to be rolled back, apparently to whatever state we were at, at the last time we "zoned" - which could be almost no loss or several hours, if you were AFK'ing.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

[QUOTE]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Polgara Darshiva
People's accounts were reverted back 2-8 hours. That to me under any deffinition is a roll back, not a bug.

It's very possible that since their last game wide roll back they learnt from their mistakes and don't need to roll back the entire world and inconvenience everybody. It's very likely that only people playing on certain servers where there might have been an exploit had their accounts rolled back.
please check with the experts.

they (programmers/head of development/etc) stated that the way the code is designed at the very foundation of the game you cannot alter an individual account.

remember the last time you got stuck somewhere and minutes later you were running along with no enemy in sight and taking damage?

suddenly you snapped way back to where you got stuck and all that distance you thought you traveled never happened.

maybe some glitch like that but on a longer timeline since there was nothing to interrupt it.

but they do not have the ability to alter single accounts.

Polgara Darshiva

Polgara Darshiva

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cape Town, South Africa

Mind Sport SA [MSSA]

Quote:
but they do not have the ability to alter single accounts.
or that's just the line they feed us so that every second person doesn't hassle them to roll something back on their account.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Polgara Darshiva
or that's just the line they feed us so that every second person doesn't hassle them to roll something back on their account.
if you honestly believe that we can agree to disagree.

i personally believe the people who stated that even before the game was out.

good day/night/whatever it is where you are.

BuD

BuD

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Nunya

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
if you honestly believe that we can agree to disagree.
GW keeps track of all your items, money, armor, etc. All that info has to be stored in a file somewhere on their servers. I find it very hard to believe that they can not edit this individual file to reflect whatever they want. I believe they tell us that they cant do this so everyone doesnt ask for a roll back cuz they sold something they didnt want to to the merchant, salvage something on accident etc.


They can they just choose not to.

trobinson97

trobinson97

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Guildless :(

R/

I lost around 8 hours of progress today. When I left the computer I as at 24k tickets one and 1200 or so tickects lost. When I get back to my computer 5-6 hours later the game is at he character selection screen. I go back in, check the titles, and I am down to 800 tickets won, 200 lost. Thanks Anet. Great weekend.

Oh yeah, I am not on a Euro server either. American.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
remember the last time you got stuck somewhere and minutes later you were running along with no enemy in sight and taking damage?
Yeah... because this is quite obviously just account rubber banding?

You think thats an actual explanation... jesus, more evidence to support the individual rollback theory than the bullshit you're spouting. You actually expect us to believe that certain peoples progress while standing still just happened to get rolledback just because you assume that its impossible?

We know DAMN WELL they can alter accounts. Test Server title shots prove that. Just because they say 'they only work in the Test Server' doesn't mean its true.

El Panty Bandito

El Panty Bandito

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Kansas

[LaZy]

Mo/Me

Just lost 8k lucky title. Was in International 1, this El Barko Rollback guy kept threatening to roll back, err7, crash....whatever you want to call it. He and this Fox Live person would argue, then El Barko Rollback would say, OK leave now or get crashed!, 2 seconds later, it would err7 straight back to character select screen.

After going back to International D1 again, El Barko Rollback seemed to do it again and again, So I finally gave up, went to American District 38, and have been fine since. Still missing my 8k worth of Lucky.

Anet...why does this seem to happen every festival? What gives?

Naomi Heartily

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

The Benecia Renovation [RenO]

Mo/Me

I lost about ~4k tickets won...not much but it still is something. American servers.... VERY uncool Anet, this happened to me last time the area was open too. Happy birthday indeed. Our gift is losing money, time and tickets.

WildmouseX

WildmouseX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

N/R

i spent all friday roller beatle raceing, then bought 20k worth of tickets and left it afking in 9 rings while i slept..i wrote down my lucky title, and it was at 24,572 points when i went to bed, woke up around 5 am and checked it on my way to to the head and my game was on the character select screen....so i loged back in and wrote down my points at 25,372, and went back to bed... woke up for the day around 9 and my game was on the character select screen again, and my points were 25,333 - and the 20k in tickets were all gone, along with the money not returned to me.

stuff happens, i'm sure it was a server hic-cup or something and i'm not going to get my feathers ruffeled up over it, with claims that A-net did something intentional - obviously obtaining the luky title through 9-rings was designed to be an afk title. it doesn't benifit them to make a game that rewards afkers, only to use it to attack afkers.

Miral

Miral

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Hell. AKA Phoenix, AZ

The Gear Trick [GEAR]

W/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by WildmouseX
i spent all friday roller beatle raceing, then bought 20k worth of tickets and left it afking in 9 rings while i slept..i wrote down my lucky title, and it was at 24,572 points when i went to bed, woke up around 5 am and checked it on my way to to the head and my game was on the character select screen....so i loged back in and wrote down my points at 25,372, and went back to bed... woke up for the day around 9 and my game was on the character select screen again, and my points were 25,333 - and the 20k in tickets were all gone, along with the money not returned to me.

stuff happens, i'm sure it was a server hic-cup or something and i'm not going to get my feathers ruffeled up over it, with claims that A-net did something intentional - obviously obtaining the luky title through 9-rings was designed to be an afk title. it doesn't benifit them to make a game that rewards afkers, only to use it to attack afkers.
did you check your unlucky title? the game is, of course, supposed to be random, and results are not guaranteed...

lucifer_uk

lucifer_uk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Nottingham, England

The Venerable Truth [TvT] The Venerable Alliance [TvH] [TvL]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by WildmouseX
i wrote down my lucky title, and it was at 24,572 points when i went to bed, woke up around 5 am and checked it on my way to to the head and my game was on the character select screen....so i loged back in and wrote down my points at 25,372, and went back to bed... woke up for the day around 9 and my game was on the character select screen again, and my points were 25,333
When you say wrote down... do you mean screenies by any chance because what your saying is that you logged in again before doing anything else checking and it was set at 25,372. It then had a negative of 39 to reach 25,333 when you next logged in again.

tifaRockheart

tifaRockheart

i-map person

Join Date: Apr 2005

Raisu(Rice) Palace, talking to like Suki

Hired Goons

Didn't see this mentioned, but this was from another Gaile visit i was able to attend a few hours ago:



I also forgot to add these comments:
"The bug was related to a crash of Dragon's Nest. It is fixed now"
"If there is a crash, the most you will lose is 5 minutes"
(referring to after the bug fix)



so it looks like the Anit-AFK is for something else (a future plan for leachers?)

Thunder79

Thunder79

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Chaos Rising

afker here...but not by choice.

I got busy with other things around the house and forgot I had left my game to go upstairs to get something. When I did that, I got busy...and I didn't come back for about 11 hours (worked for about 7 hours, then sat down on the couch upstairs to watch some TV on the HDTV for about 4 hours). When I came back down stairs I fully expected to see my game sitting at the login screen...or very little progress made on my titles while working on Rings of Fortune (working on Unlucky title).

I came back to my character still standing on the rings...with 5 stacks less of tickets and my progress towards Unlucky went from about 6,000 games of chance lost to about 9300. I would say the problems with err7 and rollbacks are connection problems that people are having to the servers, and nothing that Anet is doing. Your character is simply rubber banding or losing it's connection without the client realizing it. Then when the client actually does realize it lost it's connection....it gets updated server data or err's out. When the person logs back in they see the data from when they lost a connection. Which could be several hours worth.

In summary...quit blaming your connection problems on something Anet is doing intentionally. They are obviously not out to try to ruin the fun of people playing the game...however they play it. If they wanted to make sure people didn't afk the rings they would insert code to kick you out after a couple hours or a few minutes of being afk which they haven't done since people can obviously stay on much longer than a couple hours.

Now while the problem isn't something that is caused by Anet's actions...it is a problem that Anet needs to address...rollbacks and err7's due to connection issues that cause you to lose progress. Obviously there's a big enough issue to cause a lot of people to be affected by it. It seems to affect people the most when there are large concentrations of people in districts, such as for the boardwalk games.