I'm bored.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
So, without PvE on my Necromancer, what else is there to do?

What can I do to extend my Guild Wars life? I guess Pokemon Diamond was just released...
Are you into immediate gratification, or true accomplishment?

I'm into the latter, and I can still say that I get almost 100% of the enjoyment out of Guild Wars that I have when I started almost two years ago.

How?

I solo everything possible without heroes or henchmen. I will try a mission/quest/area over and over and over again until I figure out the right build to beat it. Then I put the notch in my headboard and move to the next challenge.

I'm still in Normal mode, and still haven't been able to do everything. My Necro (HINT: NOT a MM), has soloed almost everything in Prophecies and Factions, and is starting to plow her way through Nightfall.

I know from your previous posts that you are very, very knowledgeable about how a Necromancer works and have an intimate knowledge of each of the skills available to you. Take the next step in PvE, and you may find new enjoyment from a game that you thought you mastered, if you follow the "Type B" personality I described above.

ChaoticCoyote

ChaoticCoyote

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Florida, USA

Imperial Order of the Iguana [IGGY]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
Are you into immediate gratification, or true accomplishment?
Games are for immediate gratification; accomplishments belong in real life.

Raaaaa

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

AP

D/

Kinda funny how constructive posts out-number the usual trollesque ones here.

But I too suddenly find the game quite boring since hard mode, my only char I'd wanna take through it struggles in alot of areas and near impossible to get in pugs. But I have kinda started to get into PVP more, even got my first glad point

Mr. G

Mr. G

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

S. Wales

Mo/Me

I find whenever bordem strikes, its a good time to dig into the sack of yea oldie games and see what you can find - I recently found myself repearting Fire emblem, Gain Ground and Dizzy (The next logical step would be pong i suppose)

mmmm CLassic Grind > Modern Grind

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaoticCoyote
Games are for immediate gratification; accomplishments belong in real life.
...and there's the Type A personality bleeding through. Every person plays games for their own purpose.

Those people that pursue titles generally fall into the Type B category. For example, there is nothing "immediately gratifying" about pursuing the Grandmaster Cartographer titles....

Yoom Omer

Yoom Omer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

Israel

One Life to Live Again [Life]

E/

Its simple; whenever it's start being boring i leave GW for a month or two, and then return to have all the fun back.

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

Hey Syria,

Remember me! If you're bored, you could try and get the guardian title in HM or try and help me reach Gate of Madness and eventually beating NF lol.

NF have been released for over 6 to 7 months now and I haven't got close to GoM yet!

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

Meh...


I gave up on Pokémon for two reasons:
#1. Pokémon Colosseum totally ruined the mood of the game for me... and everything was getting kewky and gimmicky...
#2. I thrashed everyone I ever fought so easily that nobody ever wanted to play against me again... though admittedly nobody else my age even played it when I did, so those I did fight (and thrash) were kids several years younger than me with somewhat weaker grasp of tactics (and lacking the desire to spend months custom-breeding the perfect fighters)...


But that totally isn't the point.

If you want to put the fun back into Guild Wars..... play in seriously abnormal ways...


#1. Try playing in PvE with pointless gimmick builds in areas where it will be of medium difficulty for them to manage..... e.g. A build consisting of nothing but running skills.... or nothing but signets....
#2. Try doing the campaigns backwards while actually watching the cutscenes and paying attention.... and see if it confuses or amuses you....
#3. Explore areas of the three continents soley for finding the best places to take screenshots? I'm doing this right now... while GMCing in Tyria...
#4. Give yourself and your Heroes (at least three) Ranger secondary... capture Black Moa pets for all of them... and then Rampage through a semi-easy area with four Black Moas, letting them do all the killing (or better still, find a friend to do the same and get eight Black Moas)!
#5. Challenge yourself to go through an explorable area and Taunt every single enemy just before it dies...
#6. Find somewhere like Snake Dance and see how many basic melee enemies (e.g. trolls or minotaurs) you can aggro at once without dying. I've seen someone else do this and it was absolutely hilarious!
#7. If you don't actually care what other people think of your actions, try doing Fort Aspenwood or Alliance Battles with some intent other than killing the opposing team.... such as simply running around and distracting the opposition.... or even using a Sabotage build to help the "enemy" (easy amusement for the truly evil).


These are just a few examples... and all things that would personally amuse me. Not sure about you.... but there are my suggestions. ^_^

Tahlia Tane

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/

Quote:
Hard Mode is a gimmick.
Hard mode is easily one of the best things to ever happen to Guild Wars. It's great fun and the loot is GREAT. The AI still sucks, so I agree with you on that.

VinnyRidira

VinnyRidira

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

Ridirian Guides

W/Me

The problem with hard mode is there is nothing new just harder. To enjoy the game there has to be some goal or focus. I have basically achieved all the major goals with a few minor ones left. I am get inordinately busy at work so maybe a lay off would be a good thing anyway. Maybe when Gwen does arrive there will be some interesting things to do. The quests are all much of a muchness that I do not even bother to take them let alone finish them.

The Herbalizer

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

if your bored with gw and cant think of what else to do then imo stop playing it. with all the time you save not playing gw you can do loads of kwl stuff irl.

ryanryanryan0310

ryanryanryan0310

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Scars Meadows [SMS]

@Zinger your missing the all important point, your 17 freaking years old. Go out and meet some girls and have lots and lots of SEX(protected of course)....imao......

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

Syria, you should be the saint of GW and help anyone out there if you're bored!

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanryanryan0310
@Zinger your missing the all important point, your 17 freaking years old. Go out and meet some girls and have lots and lots of SEX(protected of course)....imao......
Sex... the most overrated thing known to humankind.
I'm sure Zinger has far better things to be doing than playing "stick the sausage in the hole".

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

I'm not kidding, I seriously need help beating NF! So whos with me?

lacasner

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Sex... the most overrated thing known to humankind.
I'm sure Zinger has far better things to be doing than playing "stick the sausage in the hole".
Im just gonna pretend that this comment doesn't exist.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by SotiCoto
Sex... the most overrated thing known to humankind.
I'm sure Zinger has far better things to be doing than playing "stick the sausage in the hole".
LOL?!

Now you're talking nonsense, should leave those soho girls alone

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Skullcrasher
I'm not kidding, I seriously need help beating NF! So whos with me?
I thought you were in [Rare] with [SMS] Alliance.When it comes to Hard Mode it is just nothing more than added content as for a chapter that wasn't released and more grind.If you are bored wait in a few months then PvPer will really be bored of using the same 2 or 3 builds over again and again.The only good this is it is stabilizing the economy or I think.

Darth Kukulkan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

E/

Quote:
Sex... the most overrated thing known to humankind.
I'm sure Zinger has far better things to be doing than playing "stick the sausage in the hole".
agreed
No, really guys up there you make me laugh, acting like animals. Sex & violence are the 2 things that make an animal of any human.
I love it, but I'm affraid of how people are obseded with it o_O Are you DUMB ?
IMO you should just praise the almighty emperor instead of waisting your time doing useless things... like copulate

Quote:
Im just gonna pretend that this comment doesn't exist.
And I'm just gonna pretend all Warriors don't even exist... arrrrr very hard to awake after this kind of magnificent dream :/

Back on topic, IMO, hard mode is just another gimmick, really not fun at all ! Apart from total intoxicated players who whant the title, where is the fun of grinding like no tomorrow on endless f***ing areas ? none, none at all !
I was a true PvE player, but I realize that Anet doesn't make it attractive at all nowadays, unless PvP which has always a little attract of competition.
But where is the competition in beating the same mobs all over the 3 hours long of an area, with the risk of dying dumbly thanks to Dunkoro spamming his spells in disorder, or even Norgu (this guy is a joke, he cannot be anything else ! Sooo ridiculous, I would really be ashamed if I was a Mesmer :/) : there is no competition, only endurance, and that's bad.
But I already hear the little Anet worshipers coming and posting their narrow minded comments to flame us... c'mon just open your eyes, GW's spirit is just dead, at least for the moment...

LyraMyst

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Kukulkan
c'mon just open your eyes, GW's spirit is just dead, at least for the moment...
I have to admit, I'm starting to feel the same way... but my hope aint completely dead yet... ATS where are you !?

It also strikes me that this I'm bored topic, is really growing very fast imo... Seems like there definatly is a problem going on here atm.

LyraMyst

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Kukulkan
c'mon just open your eyes, GW's spirit is just dead, at least for the moment...
I have to admit, I'm starting to feel the same way... but my hope aint completely dead yet... ATS where are you !?

It also strikes me that this I'm bored topic, is really growing very fast imo... Seems like there definatly is a problem going on here atm.

Hard mode, ok, it shouldve been fun. I really dont understand why ppl would play it, do you want to grind each area 24/7 for what? Ok you get a vanquisher title, wow... that's basically it. I would engage in Hard Mode if there would actually drop some decent stuff worth grinding for. Now, what do we have? Lockpicks (to get unid golden items which are less likely to be perfect). In the ideal situation they are perfect and you could sell them for high money to a player. Would you want to spam "WTT perfect 15^50 bow for hours in a main town"? You prolly won't have sold it. What else could there drop? A tomb to unlock skills? Hmmm, is it really worth farming those? for 1k gold you can buy it with a skill trainer. And if it would be an elite tomb? Well look on wiki or xennon and just go cap that skill...

Really, I hope ANet gets up with something (hopefully before GW:EN), to make your character more unique (other than just titles) and makes it worth actually playing in hard mode...


But not everything is boring atm,

Try Hero Battles, they are fun to play and you meet cool builds and nice ppl...

Sry if I have offended someone, but this just slipped out of my fingers on my keaboard and on to the forums... whoeps

Cya all out there!

Dscrilla

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Me/N

I don't think anyone should blame you for being bored. There was supposed to be an expansion of new content by now. Many of us have done it all once or more its natural to look else ware. Ive taken several month+ breaks and the game is always more fun afterwards. At least we aren't paying $10+ a month for the option of playing.

noocoo

noocoo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein
Hey, that Granado Espada looks awesome, thanks for mentioning it (hellgate wont be replacement for me because devs think that grinding to top level is fun and that you should not be able to respec your character in any other way than by rectearing it)
Granado Espada is actually a grinded game. All you have to do is using ctrl+space to camp and auto-attack, and then go sleeping to wait your 3 characters leveling up. And your one and the only purpose in this game is to continuous level up. Also, there are lots of annoying bots in this game.

Trust me, I played this game in Japanese server, and I feel it very very boring, just a leveling game.

Back to the topic, I think this thread is very deserved to be a reference for GW2. What Zinger said is exactly the weakness of pve in GW. I hope Anet would think highly of it.

I MP I

I MP I

Hustler

Join Date: Nov 2006

in between GW2 servers

Mo/

Everyone is bored of this game. Nothing to do. Not even an auction house to sell our shit for christsakes. Zinger you're 17 y/o go out and have some fun. Your teenage years are some of the best years of your life, enjoy them! Spending time indoors playing crappy has been games is a bore.

jon0592

jon0592

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/

All things come to an end. GW is coming to an end for you, and whether I like it or not, it is coming to an end for me too. I'm in the same position as you, GW is boring yet you're seeking for a reason to keep playing.

I've found a reason that personally might keep me going for a few more months - a monk. All my characters are melee and are straightforward - kill kill kill. Now, after 15 months of play I have to completely change tactics and heal other people! Quite different for me, sort of a whole new game really. Also, you can AB. Join a kurzick guild. Grenz is always fun if you're on the kurzick side.

What would really be nice is if they stuck to their 6 months plan. Sure, they have to add more and more so the tutorials would get bigger. My solution is to make the tutorial small - why? How many people here would JUST have that new expansion? About 90% of us have at least 2 other campaigns (observation), so what difference does it make to those 600 people that never played the game before? Hell, I didn't know how to play Pokemon or Runescape, I just learned as I went!

My last point - you're 17. You've got a lot more to think about than I do. I'm only 14 so that means the odd piece of homework here and there and oh noes - exams? Pfft easy stuff. Since the weather is getting nicer now I've been going out more often and playing catch or w/e.

big papi

big papi

Town Dweller

Join Date: Dec 2005

on the LOST island

[SMS]

gw is dead imo

go play WoW again

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by jon0592
All things come to an end. GW is coming to an end for you, and whether I like it or not, it is coming to an end for me too. I'm in the same position as you, GW is boring yet you're seeking for a reason to keep playing.
asjhdksjahjks STOP SAYING THINGS LIKE THIS

Why why why WHY are you talking about quitting a game that does not penalize you AT ALL for not playing? Just stop playing for a while, come back later and see if things have changed for the better.

Seriously this is like saying "wtf Im quitting Super Mario 64 forever its dead"

Baroness Scarlett

Baroness Scarlett

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Myguild

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by noocoo
Granado Espada is actually a grinded game. All you have to do is using ctrl+space to camp and auto-attack, and then go sleeping to wait your 3 characters leveling up. And your one and the only purpose in this game is to continuous level up. Also, there are lots of annoying bots in this game.

Trust me, I played this game in Japanese server, and I feel it very very boring, just a leveling game.

Back to the topic, I think this thread is very deserved to be a reference for GW2. What Zinger said is exactly the weakness of pve in GW. I hope Anet would think highly of it.
I bet you 100 platinum + 10 ectos that if they would increase the level cap to 200 right now in GW the amount of players would increase radically, so don't tell me that leveling doesn't keep people playing because it does. More than grinding tittles to display that you can't see always like you would see a level, you have to click in someone specifically to see it???, or buying armors that we know "now" that we can't pass to GW2, or saving money that we know "now" that we can't pass to GW2... if i knew 1 year ago all this i wouldn't be playing after finishing the campaigns with 1 single char to start with...
And about annoying bots in granado espada: the drop rate in GW just got nerfed to death because the bots anet says! and guess what! everybody has stop playing but the bots! so there is no more annoying bots than GW bots in my opinion.

Issac

Issac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Earthrealm

W/A

Maybe if you guys worked on titles that might not make the game boring for you unless you already maxed them out lol.

lennymon

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

I didn't bother reading this thread, guess I'm not bored enough. Gl Hf

Jakerius

Jakerius

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Marhan's Grotto, reminiscing about the good old days when it had more than two people.

Children of Orion [CoO]

R/Mo

Quote:
Back to the topic, I think this thread is very deserved to be a reference for GW2. What Zinger said is exactly the weakness of pve in GW. I hope Anet would think highly of it.
No, this thread isn't "deserved to be a reference for GW2". Anet won't think highly of this thread, why? Because it's a pile of pissing and moaning about how the game isn't interesting enough, yet I haven't heard a decent suggestion as to how the game could be improved.

Hell, I feel the same way. Title grind and farming is the only thing to do after you've beaten all the campaigns. Yet, if you're going to bitch about it, at least offer a suggestion to rectify the problem within the game. Otherwise, as others have said, go play something else.

Zorglubb

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

Things that might make me enjoy GW again:
- a skill-hunter-like title track, that gets you acrosss the lands, with specific tasks that (individually) aren't grind.
- a worldwide party search/matchmaking so you can actually find people for protectors or guardians missions without waiting hours.
- a marketplace/auction house, so I can finally sale/trade my decent gear without waiting for hours.
- some items/armor *worth* fighting for (better specs, I don't need no PvP cap)
- non-fedex quests: I'm thinking things like the defense against the undead hordes in beetletun, the christmas-special quests with only clues that require you to think, outposts to find in dangerous areas like at Sorrow's Furnace release, funny missions (like SF's slave mission or Kilroy)
- a PvP system that doesn't reward griefing/leaving (just punish leavers an AFKers in some fashion, be it losing points/gold/XP/whatever)

erfweiss

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Cold Black Eyes

W/A

Here's a thought: play in moderation. Yes, I'll get flamed for that, but think about it. Some people on here have played for 3000+ hours over the last 2 years. Heck, if you've played 4000+ hours, you've played the equivalent of a fulltime job (of which, you haven't been "paid" for any of it). At that point, this isn't a hobby, it's an obsession.

I've played less than 1600 hours in almost 2 years. The appeal is still there because I do it in moderation. I agreed on the thought of doing different characters. You get a completely different perspective of the game from each point of view.

One last thought: Employment? We all start somewhere. When I was 17 (ages ago), I was working in fast food and going to school.

Railin

Railin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Honestly, the only reason I played through Tyria in HM is because I wanted Kind of a Big Deal title. I don't like grinding long and I get bored fast of Cartographer, Vanquishing, LB Farming, etc, so I wanted to get KOABD with non-grind titles. Hard mode was basically the only way for me to do that, and now I've done it I'm taking a long break from HM, since I got my title. It's pretty fun in hard mode, the problem is just finding a capable group to do the missions.

It's amazing what kind of builds you come across in Hell's Precipice from people who have already finished the campaign. (*cough* Mist Form on a tank *cough*)

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Issac
Maybe if you guys worked on titles that might not make the game boring for you unless you already maxed them out lol.
Because if you hate grind and just wanna play or if youre a PVP player that doesnt like playing PVE, these are useless to you.... Even some PVE players are losing interest in titles as they really give nothing out of them except another title....

Hockster

Hockster

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
What can I do to extend my Guild Wars life? I guess Pokemon Diamond was just released...
Whining and complaining on forums isn't the anwer. You're 17, go outside, meet real people, get some friends beyond the internet.

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockster
Whining and complaining on forums isn't the anwer. You're 17, go outside, meet real people, get some friends beyond the internet.
Whats this "Real Life" you speak of and where do i cap it?

WTB Real Life --- 100k+300 ectos c/o, b/o not yet posted

Mr. G

Mr. G

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

S. Wales

Mo/Me

why does every1 assume just cuase she's bored of GW she (and ill assume she) has no real friends? Real friends dont stop you getting bored of summit....

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

Quote:
Originally Posted by MistressYichi
WTB Real Life --- 100k+300 ectos c/o, b/o not yet posted
WTS Real Life ... 2k ...


[Another thing that is sorely overrated. If I LIKED real life then I probably wouldn't play Guild Wars at all.]

OneArmedScissor

OneArmedScissor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

currently Texas =[

Court Of The Fallen [CotF]

The problem with GW is that it lacks real depth. One can clearly see this in the items available in GW.
An axe with the 15>50 mod does the exact same thing as any other axe with this mod, despite the different types of axes available. There is no change in attack speed for certain axes; they're all the same. As such, what is the point in spending 100K+ on a chaos axe with a 15>50 mod when you can get an axe that does the same thing from a collector? The performance of the items is the same. Only looks vary. So you grind for days and days and days getting enough gold to buy that "better" looking axe, but in the end the item is doing the exact same thing as the collectors item. Same applies with armor you can get from collectors and FoW. Oh you look "cooler," but as stated before, the performance of the item is the same as the collectors.

The armor that is personally crafted for your character is a joke as well. You spend 15K on armor, but you can't use it on any other character and no other character in the game can use it. So there is absolutely no resale value of the armor whatsoever.

The game is filled with items that just don't do anything that cool. Ok they have mods and stats, but they aren't that cool. Oh big deal... you've got a +30HP, 15>50, lightning bow string on a shadow bow, but it doesn't do anything that cool. There is nothing really neat about what it actually does, because there are countless other differenent "skinned" bows that do the exact same thing. Again, performance is the same, looks are different.

The prime case for this can be seen in PvP characters. They come equipped with items that do the same things as those of PvE items and characters. What's the point in doing PvE when you can get all the skills via PvP packs?
Once you've got all the skills, PvE is completely worthless and pointless.
Your item may look cool, but it does the same thing as a collectors item and/or a PvP item, and as such, holds no true or real objective value for possessing such an item.