Ecto price is concerning you too?
Sir Skullcrasher
Poor ectos, it's now at 6k and might drops to 5k by end of this weekend!
Dzan
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Originally Posted by Curse You
Here's a situation.
The government (not the federal reserves, I know) enacts a new law requiring all businesses to reduce their waste output by some amount (I'm making this up, don't expect real numbers). One of the large businesses is unable to comply with the new law, and so they are required to shut down. As a result, anyone with stocks in that company loose money. Now, from that, you can see that there is some higher power that can impact the real economy. |
The Federal Reserve decides to decrease the lending cap (loot scaling) in order to deflate the economy (gold is worth more and harder to get) and as a result commodity prices drop (ecto decreases in price.)
Croco Clouds
This is very discouraging, i haven't farm any ecto since the HM update...
Look at the price right now, 6K... I hope the price will be raise to 10k again so that it's worthy to farm ectos
Look at the price right now, 6K... I hope the price will be raise to 10k again so that it's worthy to farm ectos
6am3 Fana71c
...and i hope they never go above 6K, and people start playing UW for the heck of it, not for farming
Malice Black
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Originally Posted by 6am3 Fana71c
...and i hope they never go above 6K, and people start playing UW for the heck of it, not for farming
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shadowmist
Well, ectos were never intended to be extra cash, so yeah. Those that used ectos as cash hopefully were smart enough to realize the risk of using ectos for that purpose. As for me? I don't trust anything that fluctuates as much as material prices has done, so I've never used it for cash.
Ludo
Well, indeed, ecto's weren't meant to be used as extra cash. It's all due to the silly cash limit on our accounts. (i'm no where near that limit myself). So people max'ed out their accounts and a suitable material was chosen as currency. As long as Anet isnt directly determining the price of ecto's it's cool. They rise and fall and rise, whatever. They are matched against things which do not rise and fall in price, and this is the problem. (15k armor and the like). If Ecto's crashed, like from 6k to 1k, I'm sure we'd have some problems. (not in game, but in "support") ;p
SlippyJack
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Originally Posted by -Loki-
I could pretend that I care, but I don't.
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Same goes to the "why should I care" people too...
Ouchie
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Originally Posted by SlippyJack
Then why post... ?
Same goes to the "why should I care" people too... |
My answer to the question is
No, the price of ectos is not concerning me at this time
Kool Pajamas
I hope they drop to 100g. Then I can get me some FoW armor. 
byteme!
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Originally Posted by SlippyJack
Then why post... ?
Same goes to the "why should I care" people too... |
My response to the title:
I don't care and it doesn't concern me. It's a game. I'll live.
vdz
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Originally Posted by 6am3 Fana71c
...and i hope they never go above 6K, and people start playing UW for the heck of it, not for farming
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2: You're joiking
3: You're weird
Which one?
The Herbalizer
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Originally Posted by Kool Pajamas
I hope they drop to 100g. Then I can get me some FoW armor.
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Anet i needz a 15>50 cristaline r8 4 cheap as i dnt grnd in gw!!!!!!!!one!!!!!!!!!!!eleventyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Malice Black
Hey Herb
Valid point there, but you know just as well as I do that most people don't care about such things anymore. Even the old hardcore farmers are jumping on the bandwagon of "GW is for playing not selling" etc etc
Gone is the 2005 era of good money and decent players.
Valid point there, but you know just as well as I do that most people don't care about such things anymore. Even the old hardcore farmers are jumping on the bandwagon of "GW is for playing not selling" etc etc
Gone is the 2005 era of good money and decent players.
warren_kn
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Originally Posted by Malice Black
Hey Herb
Valid point there, but you know just as well as I do that most people don't care about such things anymore. Even the old hardcore farmers are jumping on the bandwagon of "GW is for playing not selling" etc etc Gone is the 2005 era of good money and decent players. |
Malice Black
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Originally Posted by warren_kn
This is not a criticism so don't take it as such but, are you saying that the decent players are those that farmed? Are you also saying that playing GW is a fad that we should all get over and just get back to farming?
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ArKaiN
First of all, people posting "Nope, don't care" should learn the value of just shutting up.
Second, the "you don't need 15k armor" discussion is retarded.
Every time you buy something for a large amount of money, then see it for half that amount the next day, you're going to be pissed. The idiots posting "Nobody told you you should even have ectos in the first place!" should consider how angry they'd get if their most expensive item was suddenly worthless.
The reason people invest in ecto IS it's high value. You can only keep a mil in cash in your storage, and there will always be items worth more than 100k.
Why is ecto dropping so fast? Bot farming. Why are bots farming ecto? Because of the HM patch. So why does this concern you? Because it's a display of how fragile GW's economy is, and the massive economic problems the HM patch brought.
Before you post "screw you, rich people", stop for a minute and think.
Second, the "you don't need 15k armor" discussion is retarded.
Every time you buy something for a large amount of money, then see it for half that amount the next day, you're going to be pissed. The idiots posting "Nobody told you you should even have ectos in the first place!" should consider how angry they'd get if their most expensive item was suddenly worthless.
The reason people invest in ecto IS it's high value. You can only keep a mil in cash in your storage, and there will always be items worth more than 100k.
Why is ecto dropping so fast? Bot farming. Why are bots farming ecto? Because of the HM patch. So why does this concern you? Because it's a display of how fragile GW's economy is, and the massive economic problems the HM patch brought.
Before you post "screw you, rich people", stop for a minute and think.
vdz
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Originally Posted by Malice Black
No. I believe that the current generation of GW players are seriously lacking compared to the older generation. This is from my personal view so take it as it is.
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Malice Black
Valid point BUT most the people on here don't care. Cheaper items = happy times for the average gamer. Since this game is aimed at the average gamer...as for me, I gave away everything I own (yet again) going to restart on my second account just to past time until more interesting games arrive.
Star Gazer
agreed. this game has been slowly decaying since the release of factions. I loved the old days...when stuff didnt scatter, when griffons were meant to be killed like turkeys on thanksgiving...and best of all, there was a sense of community and people who actually played good. Now, these 12 year old punks get guild wars for their birthday, come in and start whining and complaining about getting ecto down to 100g? i mean wtf. do you want everything handed to you? ok, so you get your 'fissure armor' (which btw, all look like ass), what next? do you want a max tormented shield for 100g too? how about a req9 elemental sword? start trying to earn something. you 'people' are the ones who ruined the current loot system by complaining 'oh em gee, i dun h4v monE four a Magor Viggor. Give it to me cheep plz!~'. start EARNING what you get.
ArKaiN
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Originally Posted by Star Gazer
agreed. this game has been slowly decaying since the release of factions. I loved the old days...when stuff didnt scatter, when griffons were meant to be killed like turkeys on thanksgiving...and best of all, there was a sense of community and people who actually played good. Now, these 12 year old punks get guild wars for their birthday, come in and start whining and complaining about getting ecto down to 100g? i mean wtf. do you want everything handed to you? ok, so you get your 'fissure armor' (which btw, all look like ass), what next? do you want a max tormented shield for 100g too? how about a req9 elemental sword? start trying to earn something. you 'people' are the ones who ruined the current loot system by complaining 'oh em gee, i dun h4v monE four a Magor Viggor. Give it to me cheep plz!~'. start EARNING what you get.
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First, you say everything was beautiful in the old days, when you could farm griphons and they threw golds at you. Back when a Superior healing rune was worth 66k.
Then you say you hate the 12 year olds that complain that ecto's cheap now.
Then you go back to "Stuff should be expensive".
Inari
I so miss the days that I actually played and didnt get anything. I actually played... Wow, those days look so far away...
I used to play alot, but now, that items lose their rarity so fast, there is so much for the replay valuse of missions. Sure, we still have titles, but as far as Im concerned, titles in a game that doesnt make people with titles any more special than they should, are worthless.
I always thought that having item, which are rare and expansive, are far better suited as a cause to play for, than titles.
Because we actually used those items. Playing hard for that sword or axe that actually kill, or for that suit of armor that actually protects - instead of playing hard for that useless titles like wisdom or sunspear...
Ectos dropping in price is just because stuff was made less and less rare like the collosal scimi. Games like this thrive on items and economy, because ppl thrive on these aswell. I always feared the day I would get a fissure set for my ele, cause I thought "what now...". SO I spent all my ectos on items for my war.
Think about that when you finished all missiones 10 times and with all items you wanted.
I used to play alot, but now, that items lose their rarity so fast, there is so much for the replay valuse of missions. Sure, we still have titles, but as far as Im concerned, titles in a game that doesnt make people with titles any more special than they should, are worthless.
I always thought that having item, which are rare and expansive, are far better suited as a cause to play for, than titles.
Because we actually used those items. Playing hard for that sword or axe that actually kill, or for that suit of armor that actually protects - instead of playing hard for that useless titles like wisdom or sunspear...
Ectos dropping in price is just because stuff was made less and less rare like the collosal scimi. Games like this thrive on items and economy, because ppl thrive on these aswell. I always feared the day I would get a fissure set for my ele, cause I thought "what now...". SO I spent all my ectos on items for my war.
Think about that when you finished all missiones 10 times and with all items you wanted.
Loviatar
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and i started in early beta and it was much more fun then before the eliteist hardcore farmers got established.
considering that these additional new buyers are having fun and not simply quitting speaks volumes.
people are having fun playing.
the reason i have so little sympathy for the ecto price drop is simple.
the very people who are upset over the price drop are the very same (mostly) people who...........
1. opposed the rune trader because it would wreck farmers income
2. opposed guaranteed rune salvage as wrecking farmers income
3. opposed the drop rate increase on superior absorb/superior vigor runes (100k/70k) because were the last runes worth farming .
4. opposed any change making more items affordable to the casual players who make up the vast majority of players.
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Originally Posted by vdz
QFT all the way. I’ve been playing since mid 2005 and it definitely was much more fun back then.
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people are having fun playing.
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the very people who are upset over the price drop are the very same (mostly) people who...........
1. opposed the rune trader because it would wreck farmers income
2. opposed guaranteed rune salvage as wrecking farmers income
3. opposed the drop rate increase on superior absorb/superior vigor runes (100k/70k) because were the last runes worth farming .
4. opposed any change making more items affordable to the casual players who make up the vast majority of players.
vdz
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When im applying for a new job in a certain company i wont take the directors seat from the start. I will work my way up. This mentality of wanting allot for nothing gets no sympathy from me.
Sir Skullcrasher
I wonder when rubies, sapphires and diamonds will drop in prices?
Yaga Philipe
Doesn't concern me one bit. Why would it? I don't really care about the market, I care about having fun.
WarKaster
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Originally Posted by Sir Skullcrasher
I wonder when rubies, sapphires and diamonds will drop in prices?
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Kayleen Ajzurion
I didn't really notice ectos had gone down in price. then again, I never really pay attention to ectos since I've never even had to use them 
I agree with the people saying that this is't that big a problem. I mean, ectos are "replacement gold" true, but I always found the concept of actually needing replacement gold a bit silly. I mean, 100k + items are really expensive and if there are actually items that are worth 1000k+ then wowzers, inflation really has killed the game
On another note, there would be an easy(but yet VERY difficult) solution to using ectos as replacement currency: trust. If you could trust the buyer to give you 2 payments(or more) at slashes of 100k, then we wouldn't need ectos. The big problem is, alot of people are jerks(and it's worse in the online world sadly) so trust is something very rare in game. But wouldn't it be nice though? ^_^ BUt I must be too naïve >.< To actually be able to believe in another person's good will? Sadly even in the real world trust is very rare these days, too many people so you know not that many >.<
Conclusion, well umm I forgot the main point but the fact is, ectos went down in price, is that going to kill anybody? Seriously here, sure some people will get "poorer" and won't be able to afford the (pardon my speech) "leet uber" items they wanted but is that going to kill anyone?
Just my opinion though
Kay
I agree with the people saying that this is't that big a problem. I mean, ectos are "replacement gold" true, but I always found the concept of actually needing replacement gold a bit silly. I mean, 100k + items are really expensive and if there are actually items that are worth 1000k+ then wowzers, inflation really has killed the game
On another note, there would be an easy(but yet VERY difficult) solution to using ectos as replacement currency: trust. If you could trust the buyer to give you 2 payments(or more) at slashes of 100k, then we wouldn't need ectos. The big problem is, alot of people are jerks(and it's worse in the online world sadly) so trust is something very rare in game. But wouldn't it be nice though? ^_^ BUt I must be too naïve >.< To actually be able to believe in another person's good will? Sadly even in the real world trust is very rare these days, too many people so you know not that many >.<
Conclusion, well umm I forgot the main point but the fact is, ectos went down in price, is that going to kill anybody? Seriously here, sure some people will get "poorer" and won't be able to afford the (pardon my speech) "leet uber" items they wanted but is that going to kill anyone?
Just my opinion though
Kay
Kool Pajamas
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Originally Posted by The Herbalizer
If you are serious then you are one of the people who are ruining Guild Wars.
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If they dont go down then they dont go down. The people that think they need to have the rarest of the rare stuff are ruining it more because they are wasting Anets time dealing with that instead of more important things.
fb2000
I do have to admit there were much more nice (and with a better understanding of teh game) guys back when i started (and I did miss the cool first days of gw >_<).
seems to be full to the brim with weirdos with huge egos these days, its actually funny
ps loviatar..
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seems to be full to the brim with weirdos with huge egos these days, its actually funny
ps loviatar..
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Ghull Ka
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Originally Posted by Amorfati87
And finally, want to know why the price is dropping? Obviously people have sold tremendous amounts of ectos back to merchants lately. Don't blame Anet for prices dropping, blame your fellow fat cats for making the bottom drop out of the market. And further blame them for not keeping you in the loop about the sell off.
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Everyone upset about ecto prices right now wouldn't have been upset if they'd have sold them when all those other people dumped theirs. But in the dog-eat-dog world of commodity trading, nobody passes around a memo that says "hey let's all sell our ectos gang!" Rather, people think to themselves "I need to SELL NOW before other people do while the price is still high".
Cheers to those who sold early. Sorry to those that haven't.
And to all who play the commodity speculation game: If you don't like to lose, then don't gamble. (i hate losing so i don't play the ecto market)
fabiola
Expect further drops after todays update which added uw scrolls to uw drops.
Radiuju
Alright, Alright. Stop whining or go play WOW or Maplestory and grind to your grave, if you want to make people jealous or feel leet.
FOW is supposed to be a self-accomplishment. The prices dropped, and that's okay. Deal with it. FOW is still far more expensive than Ascended armour. It still takes work. They're not going to drop to 2k that easily.
I feel that when people complain about ectos dropping in price, they are upset because they don't want other people to have FOW. If that's the way anyone feels, screw you, it's not your say. Armor doesn't decide your skill.
I've seen some real IDIOTS in FOW armor.
As for using Ectos for Currency, Lockpicks are a much more stable choice.
You don't need to be rich in this game to enjoy it.
FOW is supposed to be a self-accomplishment. The prices dropped, and that's okay. Deal with it. FOW is still far more expensive than Ascended armour. It still takes work. They're not going to drop to 2k that easily.
I feel that when people complain about ectos dropping in price, they are upset because they don't want other people to have FOW. If that's the way anyone feels, screw you, it's not your say. Armor doesn't decide your skill.
I've seen some real IDIOTS in FOW armor.
As for using Ectos for Currency, Lockpicks are a much more stable choice.
You don't need to be rich in this game to enjoy it.
Malice Black
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Originally Posted by Radiuju
Alright, Alright. Stop whining or go play WOW or Maplestory and grind to your grave, if you want to make people jealous or feel leet.
FOW is supposed to be a self-accomplishment. The prices dropped, and that's okay. Deal with it. FOW is still far more expensive than Ascended armour. It still takes work. They're not going to drop to 2k that easily. I feel that when people complain about ectos dropping in price, they are upset because they don't want other people to have FOW. If that's the way anyone feels, screw you, it's not your say. Armor doesn't decide your skill. I've seen some real IDIOTS in FOW armor. As for using Ectos for Currency, Lockpicks are a much more stable choice. You don't need to be rich in this game to enjoy it. |
The Herbalizer
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Originally Posted by Radiuju
Alright, Alright. Stop whining or go play WOW or Maplestory and grind to your grave, if you want to make people jealous or feel leet.
FOW is supposed to be a self-accomplishment. The prices dropped, and that's okay. Deal with it. FOW is still far more expensive than Ascended armour. It still takes work. They're not going to drop to 2k that easily. I feel that when people complain about ectos dropping in price, they are upset because they don't want other people to have FOW. If that's the way anyone feels, screw you, it's not your say. Armor doesn't decide your skill. I've seen some real IDIOTS in FOW armor. As for using Ectos for Currency, Lockpicks are a much more stable choice. You don't need to be rich in this game to enjoy it. |
One of the reasons I dont play WoW anymore is gold was for me way too easy to make. I was only level 16 on my two characters on Horde and Alliance servers yet had more gold than some of my friends who are level 40 + have. Auction House FTW. Intelligence FTW. Your post FTL. For me the only problem in WoW was levelling but that is because I was impatient and was annoyed at being able to buy Epic weapons and mounts yet I was no way near the level required. In my honest opinion for me making gold in WoW is easier than making gold in Guild Wars.
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Originally Posted by Malice Black
Your starting arugment of "go play WoW" invalidates your claim to post.
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