More Storage Space

the storage space is way 2 small........im force 2 carry all my materials on me.........they should create a special rune for materials only.......where u can put as much materials in it

Vault?? Huh? Where was that in the newbie guides? Multiple characters? What?? Do I need to wait until I'm post-searing for either of these? And on a side note, I got two belt pouches, but I can only get one of them to go in a bag slot; when I try to drag the second one up there, it just drops right back into regular inventory. Please help if you can

I think the "mobile" storage space (including bags and backpack etc) is enough.. plus if u bring a sal kit and ID kit with u.. it should be more than enough.
BUT... on the other hand, the vault is .... TOO SMALL... and u share between 4 char...... and there are so many kind of crafting material ...
make it multipage would be nice... or.. just as other said.. u can stuff bags in the vault would be good too.. just somehow make it bigger will be nice

or have us pay $15 a month in subscription fees to help pay for all the server space :P

I think it's a reasonable size. I usually don't have more than half of it occupied at a time. I do, however, have it filled when I make a new character(take Necromancer for example) So I start getting items for it, like runes, items, etc. But usually, once that character is post-searing, I buy them 2 bags and 2 runes of holding and make them carry their own weight. Altogether, you get 180 spaces on characters(45 each) and the 20 in your storage. I think you should keep storage exactly that. All I keep in there is things like supreme runes I find, the rest goes to characters, or I sell them immediatly. I don't need to sell to a real person to be satisfied(I ask, of course, in case someone buys it for more $$$, but if not I go NPC and get on with finding items).

Well being my guild's Treasurer (I store all the guild's gold and items) I would love more vault space. Double of what it is now would be sufficient, Perhaps adding a row where you can add bags (that can store items) would be good as well. Like WoW's settup. I'm sick of using two Characters to store my Guild's Items...

I don't mind the storage space for one person but I'm concerned about when I start to make other characters. I think the storage space should be doubled if it's shared between 4 characters... 1 xunlai divide by 4 characters = not teh good. Either that or give all 4 characters separate storage space and at the character selection/creation/deletion screen have a cross-character trader available.

EDIT: And in response to Inziladun, I think a guild storage is beyond necessary. (possibly with leader controlled access or leader defined access)

I'm a packrat I have all three of my non-main characters filled with bag+holding runes and also my storage filled to max. My main character I like to keep nearly empty but due to me trying to get skill point he is almost full now to. I'm very sad that I'm going to have to sell all my upgrade/runes mules stuff to the merchant =(

IT DOESN'T NEED MORE STORAGE.

You can only use 4 weapon sets, you can salvage items.
If you had more storage space on your characters your character files would be bigger, the server load would be more, server strain would be increased, this would have a knock on effect across the board. From the amount of players allowed in areas to the actual cost of the servers for A.net.
We are not just talking 1 player, but thousands.
The storage space is actually comparable with other MMORPG's.
Past level 20 gold becomes fairly meaningless, with only the 15k armours and guild halls to spend it on. The same is true in other MMORPG's, each has their own sink hole, but it doesn't stop players becoming millionaires.

I'm going to have to disagree the storage space here is pitiful compared to EQ and WoW (would assume EQ2 but I have only a about 1 week experience with it). In all of these you not only have much large banks but a large amount of characters to store stuff on.

EDIT: Any really who cares about gold I'm not complaining about money storage I just think more storage should be added for items. And who are you to say that Anet can't take the extra overhead from added storage space do you have their server specs? (obviously rhetorical)

This isn't the devs trying to affect the social or economical conditions in the game. This is the devs not wasting server space. If you want it to change expect to pay 15 a month. Threads like these are rediculas. You expect a free to play game to have all the features of a pay to play?

And who am I? Someone who knows that storing data isn't free.

I wouldnt pay for stroage, but I would like an increase, it seems like storage just fills up with materials.

I do that.. Because i'm such a bad seller. And the trade system doesn't work very good. After 5 minute of spamming to sell anything i get bored and go do something else.

I find storage very small. It could have been good for Beta since we were just playing 1 weekend every months.. But it is small for a released game.

Last week i ended giving runes and weapons to random people just to free some space.. Now its full again.

see, I feel for these people who want more storage. Not because I don't understand why the devs did it, but just because you have to let go of a dangerous ideal. The space in your backpack / belt pouch / bags might not always be reserved for questing / farming :P

Also, they've in no way prevented you from storing >100 items by using your other characters as mules. (Maybe you'd argue that's not 'fair' .. but if all you want is more space, then take what you can get) I think this point shows how carefully the devs dealt with this issue pre-release. They knew that people in MMORPGs tend to by clingy to stuff because gold is generally hard to come by, and saving good items for sale or use by other characters is usually a given when finding a rare. So, they've made it easy to do so, but still time consuming (slightly) and ultimately still costing you something--the use or space of one of your characters. Which in my opinion is a fair trade-off.

On the other hand, I think a good idea to be considered is the 'charge by amount / value' system. You can store however much you want, but you pay increasingly steep amounts to keep stuff there. Let's say, if you don't go over the 20 (25?) vault limit now, then it's free. Every 5 spaces over that, your bank will be deducted 100g a day. (locking accounts for unpaid bills) Or it could be done by value. 2% of total vault value is deducted from bank account. This would provide a penalty for hoarding, (instead of using chars as mules for example) but not such a severe one as to completely rule out it's usefullness. This kind of a system would definately only appeal to the richer end of the spectrum, which might be completely the wrong way to go about it, but in all fairness, they're the ones hoarding :P

Either way, I completely understand the arguments of both sides, but what we've got to all accept is that more space or not, there has to be a consequence.. whether that's not hording stackable items so you can fit in those rare runes, so be it. If it's a daily charge for using such a big vault, so be it. There simply has to be some preventative force controlling the storage issue, and A.net is doin what they can :P

-Paradox

I wouldn't mind a daily charge even if it was 10p a day gold is so easy to come buy it really wouldn't matter.

I think you fail to understand yes it isn't pay to play but we did buy this game to play. If you think you should get an inferior product just based on a precedent set by previous online games that wanted you to pay to play and this one chooses not to then you should just go play some freeware games where you get what you would expect absolute crap

I agree that there simply isn't enough storage space.

If the storage area was separate for each chracter, then maybe, but then of course that would make it difficult to trade items between your own characters.

This space needs to be quadrupled.


Another way to help, perhaps replacing the need more more space, would be:

1. A "rental" space that you have to pay for.
2. Much better yet, a NPC that will take your stuff and display it at a price you set. If people buy it then you get the $$ with a small percentage taken off of the top. So that this isn't simply used as more storage, you could even say that you can not get items back---they simply go down in price by 10% every day until they are sold, and then you get the cash.


My problem is that I have lots of weapon upgrades and minor runes that I know that are valuable to someone, but which do not immediately sell when announced.

And for me, hawking items over the trading channel and haggling with people over imaginary gold is NOT fun. It is worse than farming.

So I have a choice. I can either play the game or I can spend endless hours in the STUPID trading channel.

Since I only have a limited amount of time for gaming, I opt to play. As a result I have stuff that would sell, but no time to sell it. A sort of NPC "yard sale" would help to fix all that.

There should probably be several npcs for different items: weapons, armor/shields, runes, dye, and held.

This would remove a very boring part of the game, and allow more people to actually play and enjoy themselves.

It would also require minimal effort on the part of AN.

Still, I doubt they will do it.

POp

That's why I hand stuff to guildies...frees up space.

And you are cherishing runes like they are god given. They are a dime a dozen unless you have a major or superior. IMO

Also, in order to use you other chracters as "mules" you have to bring them out of newbieland which takes time.

I have a character slot I haven't used yet. If I could I would use it for temporary storage, but, so far as I know, there are no storage agents at the beginning of the game.


Also this talk about storage space on the server is silly. HD space is cheap. Heck, there are tons of places online that give you some storage for free, and you don't even have to buy a game from them.

Besides, if storage was the problem, then 1.) Make *ALL* items stackable. 2.) Make fewer crafting items---they are what take up so much space. 3.) Make fewer collector items. I have soo much crap that I want to give to collectors but which I can't get rid of because either a.) I can't find the collector or b.) I am just 1 or two short. Also one does not know ahead of time what one will get for collectors items, and so there may be many of these I would be willing to junk. But since the game doesn't tell you what items you are collecting for unless you run into the collector (and either write it all down or have a perfect memory) then, unless you want to dump something that might be useful, you are screwed.

Also, take away teh 250 unit cap for stackables. Why should I have to have two or three piles of iron? One more byte for the common crafting items would fix that. And, besdies, why isn't it 255 instead of 250?

Pop

Oh, and finally, even though GW doesn't have a monthly pay rate, they intend to continue making money during the game with expansion packs. Probably every year or so.

Almost everybody will buy the expansion pack, and they tend to bring in new customers as well.

So stop with the idea that the server is a sunk cost that just constantly bleeds money from AN. This game is going to continue to generate income for them

True, but keep in mind they have to keep up the servers, which will cost more if they allow more storage and more characters. This game wont ever be P2P, but I think if everyone buys the expansion, that the storage needs to be at least doubled.

In EQ2 you actually only get max of 64 slots, and 32 that are sharable with other chars, and that is providing you actually craft strong boxes to place in back other wise you have 8 and 4.
You actual characters have 6 slots (i think) and each can be upgraded with a bag to a max of 8 slots.
GW is generous, it just means you have to manage your inventory, god forbid.

Wow you found one game and it was the least played and the only one i wasn't sure about I give you a cookie!

piken square is first place i dont know if someone mentioned it.

There's been times where an extra 'line' or two of storage would have been nice, but it doesn't bother me much. Now and then I look things over and realize I don't need most of the stuff I've been hoarding because it's no use to my character anymore at all. If there are minor runes or whatnot that no one wants and i'm not using, I'll just sell them to the trader.

I think the inventory itself is fine. I imagine if future expansions really up the # items or something they may (emphasis on may...i'm no mind-reader) increase the storage a bit then. Would be the logical time to do so anyway. D2 did that once.

I don't really like the hoarding items concept myself, but I understand the pack-rat mentality. Problem is, if you're a serious packrat (or even just a mild one) no amount of space is going to seem like enough. If they give a couple more 'lines', people will get used to that, fill it up, and then want more. And then more. And then more. Where do you stop?

The D2 thing, with people having dozens and dozens of mules on multiple accounts, some still holding items from the very first version of D2 - yea...that was nuts. lol

PS - I don't really understand hoarding the lower-costing dyes if you're at a stage of the game where you have 40+ platinum, either. Black dye I can see...that's farking expensive at a trader. But...*shrug...each their own and all that.

the only problem i have is that i use most of my storage space for crafting items because i'm not sure what i'll need to have in the future in order to have something made but i usually dump all my stuff off on the merchants and the nice stuff i give to guild members if i don't want to use it

Ok i would like to see some kind or incresed storage ... Why ??

I like my character to be versitile.. my warrior Example..

I have 45 slots for items.

15 slots - (9) crafter materials and salvage/ident kits(2 of each 6 slots)
10 slots - weapons - 2 swords - 2 axes - 2 hammers - 2 other(depends on what you like) - 2 shields
14 slots - 1 armour type (heh i would like more) 9 helms, 3 each corrisponding to the weapon type being used (minor, major and superior rune), 3 arm (str minor, major, superior), 3 feet (tactics minor, major, superior).

ok that leaves me with about 10(depending on what im using) slots for hunting items and salvaging..

My vault mainly consists of the super rare craft items i may need later at some point, and generally i just use it for transfer of items between characters.

Im not asking for much, but an increse in the bag space from 10's to 15's or 20's would be ideal, even thou i would like 2 different sets of the above armour.

I just want enough storage space in the vault to be able to store all crafting materials. As it it right now I can't do that.

How about a universal skill that will allow 10 more slots? You'd only be left with 7 slots for combat skills.

I think that each character should have their own amount of storage that would be the same as it is now, but there should also be 4 extra storage slots that could be used by all characters. That would solve the problem of there not being enough storage space accessable to all accounts, but would also prevent most people from being too bad of pack-rats.

I don't agree with this at all. I think that the storage is fine the way it is. Because you are limited you are forced to trade and help the economy. Besides. How much money and runes do you need? Once you unlock a rune it is available to any PVP character you make.

Stop holding on to stuff... If you found it once you can always find it again!

If they add more storage space, i expect it to cost 100k, yea... i said it... 100k, for every 5-10 extra blocks... there yea go... if it doesnt cost alot, then dont add it.

Hahahaha I'm still hording dye, and I just can't help it... I like muh dye!

I remember back when I was poor, and I really wanted to dye my character red, I played for like 2 hours to get enough money to get the dye and I've been hording ever since.. hhaha..

I am such a pack rat.

.. even with this limited storage space, I don't "trade and help the economy." As things stand, trading is too annoying for impatient me. I want my space. My wanting my space hurts no one. My wanting my space is neither cost nor (hard-drive) space prohibitive, considering the request in comparison to WHAT ALL EXISTS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

I doubt ArenaNet would incur much cost for storage space if Guild Wars already takes up as much space as it does on my computer. Oh, no--extra lines of codes!

My wanting more space serves to help both me and my guildies who I save stuff for.

Is there some way to keep storage space locally on our hard drives and have it encoded in some way to prevent the haxors getting at it?
OK, probably a silly idea. Nevermind.

I am of the mind that there is woefully inadequate storage space, I've run out of character slots now, and one of them is solely used to store items.

Please add storage in the GH, which is only accessible by officers. Would make alot of sense!