Its should be made able to get the survivor title even if you died.
you would just have to start all over again.
This way it would be able to get all the titles on one character.
But then i would need to tihnk of a way to get the LDOA title for non-tyrian characters.
Make a change in the survivor title
Tha Axod
ClanYumemiru
Hm.
Given that the purpose of the Survivor title is to show you managed to get to level 20 WITHOUT dying (for the first level at least) it's a bit pointless to award it to those who have died before, neh ?
Given that the purpose of the Survivor title is to show you managed to get to level 20 WITHOUT dying (for the first level at least) it's a bit pointless to award it to those who have died before, neh ?
Tha Axod
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Hm.
Given that the purpose of the Survivor title is to show you managed to get to level 20 WITHOUT dying (for the first level at least) it's a bit pointless to award it to those who have died before, neh ? |
so you could get both the survivor and the ldoa title.
Patrick Smit
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Hm.
Given that the purpose of the Survivor title is to show you managed to get to level 20 WITHOUT dying (for the first level at least) it's a bit pointless to award it to those who have died before, neh ? |
What to expect from such a title and the HoM in Gwen? can only the titles of one character be conferred or beneficial? Or u can have the benefit of more? Is there gonna be any benefit at all? Maybe the name change of my warrior is rewarding enough to just take the challenge.
Div
Yep, sucks for the characters made before the title was introduced. It's a matter of whether or not you want to restart the character for that one title or just keep all your current achievements.
Tha Axod
so is my elementalist, im at 12 maxed titles now.
i capped all elite, so then wont give me any more xp.
but if i want a new character, i would have to do all quest mission skills and exploration agin, that would take me another year.
i capped all elite, so then wont give me any more xp.
but if i want a new character, i would have to do all quest mission skills and exploration agin, that would take me another year.
guppychk
I think that there might also be a Special Weekend on witch you can start the title again.
if you earn 140K Xp you have rank 1 on the title...
i dont think that it will be possible to make 1.337.560 XP on the weekend so the XP in the week after should also count. if you die trough this week you are unlucky, but during the weekend you shuold be able to start the title over and over again...
the deaths shouldn't be deleted (i'm also proud of them ^^)
if you earn 140K Xp you have rank 1 on the title...
i dont think that it will be possible to make 1.337.560 XP on the weekend so the XP in the week after should also count. if you die trough this week you are unlucky, but during the weekend you shuold be able to start the title over and over again...
the deaths shouldn't be deleted (i'm also proud of them ^^)
Skye Marin
Tying it to a weekend or an NPC wouldn't be a great idea, as those not around for that weekend would be missing out on a whole title.
I think the title should be achivable even after a death. Once you die, an internal XP counter resets, but you current "high score" is still recorded on the titles panel until you pass that mark.
The only downside is that current title holders would claim that it devalues their earned titles, but I think they'll live.
I think the title should be achivable even after a death. Once you die, an internal XP counter resets, but you current "high score" is still recorded on the titles panel until you pass that mark.
The only downside is that current title holders would claim that it devalues their earned titles, but I think they'll live.
MagmaRed
If you die, you are not a Survivor. No title should be awarded. This idea is absolutely stupid. Sounds like a 5 year old crying, not someone old enough to play this game. If you want that title, don't die. If you die, delete the character and try again. Yes, this means anyone who started a character before the title was available is screwed, but they have the option to delete and restart the character if that title is that important to them. There is no title (yet at least) for getting all titles maxed, and it is impossible to do so anyway. Getting Survivor and Defender in pre-searing is impossible unless a change was made I am not aware of.
I vote no, and shudder that someone actually wants this.
I vote no, and shudder that someone actually wants this.
silvia_littlegirl
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so is my elementalist, im at 12 maxed titles now.
i capped all elite, so then wont give me any more xp. but if i want a new character, i would have to do all quest mission skills and exploration agin, that would take me another year. |
you had to think about survivor title before seeing your 12 maxed titles...
getting legendary survivor title has also become too easy now...
what about all people who tried and re-tried so many times to get it?
Create a new char and start again
Emik
I agree...
It's too easy for farmers to get.
Make a monk and start solo'ing in HM.
I've made my monk go from 350k to 1.250k XP in a week time.
It's too easy for farmers to get.
Make a monk and start solo'ing in HM.
I've made my monk go from 350k to 1.250k XP in a week time.
guppychk
i also have a legendary survivor besides my mainchar. and iam going to create another one, but i also want it on my mainchar. i dont say that there should be any changes on the title counter itself, i only want to have one chance (this special weekend) to do this title. i dont want to delete my 2000 Hours of GW only because of this title... 2 of my friends did it... the first one copletely left the game after he saw that he had to do all cartographers again and treasure and all these things. the other one always died at around 800K XP. He gave it up now and has a little shiver in his voice if we talk about this theme...
bhavv
Although I find it unfair that players created before this title was introduced cannot achieve it like my primary, It would also be way too easy to obtain if you had access to every area of the game before pursuing.
Soloing vampires in Urgoz usually nets you aroung 7500xp a run, so resetting the title and being able to go there with an XP boosting scrolls as many times as you like would be pretty stupid.
One thing that I think would work here is making the title account based. So you get survivor on one character the same way everyone else did, and it can count on your primary that was created on day one of GW.
Soloing vampires in Urgoz usually nets you aroung 7500xp a run, so resetting the title and being able to go there with an XP boosting scrolls as many times as you like would be pretty stupid.
One thing that I think would work here is making the title account based. So you get survivor on one character the same way everyone else did, and it can count on your primary that was created on day one of GW.
Mr. G
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i love that comment
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i say they should be able to redo the title, i love my rit - but im not re-rolling him beacuse i didnt know there was such a title when i first started playing
Diddy bow
can i get an easy rank 5 too that really suit me and screw those who accually worked for the title :/
MithranArkanere
Instead of stopping if you die, it could reset back to 0 if you die.
There were people that would have take much nore care and had 1 or two deaths before the title ever existed... it's unfair for them...
There were people that would have take much nore care and had 1 or two deaths before the title ever existed... it's unfair for them...
Finix
I agree with Magma on this one. When you die, restart or forget about it. You aren't a survivor. When I made my assassin, I made it to go for legendary survivor. I had to restart 2 times, one due to lag, and another due to assholish friends (it was kinda funny though). Regardless, I wanted the title, so I restarted. If people want it, put in the work required and stop complaining about characters unable to take advantage of an easily maxed title for the KoaBD title.
Tha Axod
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I agree with Magma on this one. When you die, restart or forget about it. You aren't a survivor. When I made my assassin, I made it to go for legendary survivor. I had to restart 2 times, one due to lag, and another due to assholish friends (it was kinda funny though). Regardless, I wanted the title, so I restarted. If people want it, put in the work required and stop complaining about characters unable to take advantage of an easily maxed title for the KoaBD title.
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just as much as you did, but i dont want to do everything in the game again.
that would take me another year and a lot of gold. Its just easy if you could reroll your character, so it would become lvl 1 again and then just do the same thing as you normally would need to do for the survivor rank.
If you die, dont delete, just reroll again.
Sophitia Leafblade
I think the title should be changed so u can start it at any point, u still have to gain the same amount of xp without dieing, if u die the counter gets reset and u can start again, this would make the title possible for older characters like all my Tryian ones. It would also allow people to try to work on it without having to restart the character if a bug or such like causes an accidental death.
Yang Whirlwind
I was just complaining that the title is useless to me to some guildies yesterday!
All my titles are on my beloved Elementalist and im not starting him over to get Survivor! Since im not interested in doing everything again either there's 3 options as far as my ele's concerned:
1 Making Survivor an account title!
2 Making it possible to attain Survivor if you can earn a certain amount of XP without dying regardless of when you do it (you could make the amount higher for lvl 20's than for lvl 1's - i wouldn't mind)
3. Ignore this title and pretend i don't care about it (<-- what i've been doing so far)
True - but you could still (i think) have both titles on a character: lvl. 20 in Pre-Searing without dying, then leave Pre. and get max Survivor! 
All my titles are on my beloved Elementalist and im not starting him over to get Survivor! Since im not interested in doing everything again either there's 3 options as far as my ele's concerned:
1 Making Survivor an account title!
2 Making it possible to attain Survivor if you can earn a certain amount of XP without dying regardless of when you do it (you could make the amount higher for lvl 20's than for lvl 1's - i wouldn't mind)
3. Ignore this title and pretend i don't care about it (<-- what i've been doing so far)
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ClanYumemiru
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From the update notes:
"Fixed an exploit where creatures successfully using suicide skills in Urgoz’s Warren still gave loot and experience."
Tha Axod
any more thoughts?
Perkunas
"Delete, start over, farm in HM" How do you get to HM with a NEW character?
Working on 3 Survivor characters now. 1 with access to Prohesies only, 1 with access to P & F, and the 3rd with access to all 3 chapters. All are now to 60,000+ exp. NONE of them have access to HM.
Working on 3 Survivor characters now. 1 with access to Prohesies only, 1 with access to P & F, and the 3rd with access to all 3 chapters. All are now to 60,000+ exp. NONE of them have access to HM.
ghostkai
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I was just complaining that the title is useless to me to some guildies yesterday!
All my titles are on my beloved Elementalist and im not starting him over to get Survivor! Since im not interested in doing everything again either there's 3 options as far as my ele's concerned: 1 Making Survivor an account title! 2 Making it possible to attain Survivor if you can earn a certain amount of XP without dying regardless of when you do it (you could make the amount higher for lvl 20's than for lvl 1's - i wouldn't mind) 3. Ignore this title and pretend i don't care about it (<-- what i've been doing so far) True - but you could still (i think) have both titles on a character: lvl. 20 in Pre-Searing without dying, then leave Pre. and get max Survivor! |
if you knew how to get LDoA you wud know that you HAVE to die to get to lvl 20 in pre. getting both titles is IMPOSSIBLE
/notsigned. if you die, you aren't a survivor, end of
Tha Axod
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if you knew how to get LDoA you wud know that you HAVE to die to get to lvl 20 in pre. getting both titles is IMPOSSIBLE
/notsigned. if you die, you aren't a survivor, end of |
And im still for rerolling the character *temporaly* so you could get the title.
Pericles
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can i get an easy rank 5 too that really suit me and screw those who accually worked for the title :/
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He implies that u would have to start all over again and do AS MUCH effort as any other survivor.
/signed, not a question about it.
*Alexiel*
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Have u not even bothered reading his post?
He implies that u would have to start all over again and do AS MUCH effort as any other survivor. /signed, not a question about it. |
Just doesn't make any sense to me. Giving an unfair advantage against survivors that acquired the title starting from absolute scratch as present without starting over as this idea suggests with acquired map markers and picking them up along the way; whether your xp count is completely reset or not.
Tha Axod
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I understand what he's saying, but if that were to happen your character would be starting over again with access to many high areas already obtained. You may aswell get run to drocks and get the best armour and die, start over. Comptlete the game once giving you access to hardmode, die a few times along the way (but it wouldn't matter, cos your xp count is just reset)
Just doesn't make any sense to me. Giving an unfair advantage against survivors that acquired the title starting from absolute scratch as present without starting over as this idea suggests with acquired map markers and picking them up along the way; whether your xp count is completely reset or not. |
By rerolling i mean, your lvl and and you have no advance on any other recently created lvl1 character. And it would be temporaly, so you could get back to where you finished your normal lvl20 character after you did th title.
MagmaRed
So, its temporary? You get reduced to level 1, with starter skills and equipment, and are in the starter zone for whichever game the character was made.....
Yeah, like that can or will happen. Time travel to Pre-searing, and time travel back after getting your title? If they did this, they would need to do it as a permanent setting, not a temporary one, which would be no different than deleting and remaking a character.
My Dervish died at level 18, and is the closest I have come to a Survivor. I did not feel the need to restart it, as I didn't care enough about the title. If this is a title you REALLY want, either restart you character, or make a new one.
Yeah, like that can or will happen. Time travel to Pre-searing, and time travel back after getting your title? If they did this, they would need to do it as a permanent setting, not a temporary one, which would be no different than deleting and remaking a character.
My Dervish died at level 18, and is the closest I have come to a Survivor. I did not feel the need to restart it, as I didn't care enough about the title. If this is a title you REALLY want, either restart you character, or make a new one.
Tha Axod
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So, its temporary? You get reduced to level 1, with starter skills and equipment, and are in the starter zone for whichever game the character was made.....
Yeah, like that can or will happen. Time travel to Pre-searing, and time travel back after getting your title? If they did this, they would need to do it as a permanent setting, not a temporary one, which would be no different than deleting and remaking a character. My Dervish died at level 18, and is the closest I have come to a Survivor. I did not feel the need to restart it, as I didn't care enough about the title. If this is a title you REALLY want, either restart you character, or make a new one. |
it would be just the same as deleting and starting over.
william1975
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When I found out about Defender I looked up a few things on it, and from what I have read it is possible to get it and Survivor, only it is far more difficult. The information i have came acroos says you can do it by death leaveling creatures by lettign them kill your pet, and then rez the pet, and continue to do this untill you can gain xp from killing the creature.
Now the difficult part here is that whiel you can afk if you death level by dying yourself you can't using your pet, as you have to be sure you don't accidently agro the creature yourself.
With regards to the specific topic I'm more or less on the fence
I agree that survivor should be for those that didn't die at all, I worked har to get my survivors, rerolled an awful lot, and managed to get 4 to level 1 before dying one to legendary and one is inbetween level 1 and 2. I have no desire to begin the failed ones again. Also as i made silly mistakes on them I don't think I should have the opportunity to retry without a reroll. I knoew about survivor when doign them.
However I do think that for those creating charcters before the advent of the title were unfairly treated here. My primary charcter is prime example, I created her well before these titles existed, and when I found out about some of them my main aim was to get as many as possible, however, as no survivor title had existed I was not to worried about deaths, and played most of the game dying repeatedly with no worries. When this title was brought in it would have been nice to have been given a fair shot at it for those characters created before its inception.
Therefore while I think that generally it is accurate to say that the survivor title should not be achivable no matter how many times you die, i do think the older characters should have been given the opportunity to attempt to gain it
Orinn
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If you die, you are not a Survivor. No title should be awarded. This idea is absolutely stupid. Sounds like a 5 year old crying, not someone old enough to play this game. If you want that title, don't die. If you die, delete the character and try again. Yes, this means anyone who started a character before the title was available is screwed, but they have the option to delete and restart the character if that title is that important to them. There is no title (yet at least) for getting all titles maxed, and it is impossible to do so anyway. Getting Survivor and Defender in pre-searing is impossible unless a change was made I am not aware of.
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1,337,500 XP + one death = survivor.
One death + 1,337,500 XP = nothing.
Make sense? It really doesn't to me. I'd prefer they reset the XP counter when you die, so that you have to start from the beginning, and get 1,337,500 without any deaths in between. The title would still be difficult to obtain, but not completely impossible. Right now, it is the ONLY title that you can't keep working on: once you die, you can't ever get it. That's like making the protector title unavailable if you don't get masters on every mission the very first time through. I think the unique limitation of this title is unjustified, and completely out of line with every other title that exists.
HawkofStorms
Eh, /notsigned just because it would take away a lot of the meaning of the title and REALLY devalue it for anybody who got it the old way.
I mean, I want to get the title too, but there is nothing I can do about it. Move on.
I mean, I want to get the title too, but there is nothing I can do about it. Move on.
Sophitia Leafblade
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Eh, /notsigned just because it would take away a lot of the meaning of the title and REALLY devalue it for anybody who got it the old way.
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Velvet Wing
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if you knew how to get LDoA you wud know that you HAVE to die to get to lvl 20 in pre. getting both titles is IMPOSSIBLE
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First, before you put something in BOLD lettertype, make sure it is correct...
Let me explain.. it is possible to get survivor and legendary defender of ascalon on the same char, all you need is patience (that is always needed when going for LDOA) and a very very very dedicated friend/guildie/brother/secondary pc running gw...
Just stand far enough back and let your friend/guildie/brother/sec pc death level on the baddy... when it is a high enough level storm in and kill it... you get exp, and don't die... it isn't soloable, but it works..
Secondly, I agree with you, if you die, you are not a survivor and therefor don't deserve the title, end of story... just restart and go for it again, can be fun anyways
Masseur
/not signed
for obvious reasons. The point to the title is not dying, you die, you are done, end of discussion.
for obvious reasons. The point to the title is not dying, you die, you are done, end of discussion.
Tha Axod
so, what you guys are saying is that:
if you made it to the legendary survivor title and then you die, you should lose the title. Im sure you dont want that.
if you made it to the legendary survivor title and then you die, you should lose the title. Im sure you dont want that.
Stormcloud
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so, what you guys are saying is that:
if you made it to the legendary survivor title and then you die, you should lose the title. Im sure you dont want that. |
And to say you should lose it if you die after reaching max level is like saying upon your 10,000th chest opened you should lose that title if you stop opening chests.
Hikan Trilear
What I would suggest is having a slightly different survivor title. Not "legendary" that should only really be for the people who didn't die at all, but maybe something like "dedicated survivor". It would instead have a much higher requirement and would reset everytime you die.
I for one would really enjoy trying to not die for as long as I could but I don't want to have to restart my characters everytime I do... This way the really hardcore players could have a more prestigious title, while the more casual ones could still have fun trying to survive for as long as they could.
I for one would really enjoy trying to not die for as long as I could but I don't want to have to restart my characters everytime I do... This way the really hardcore players could have a more prestigious title, while the more casual ones could still have fun trying to survive for as long as they could.
william1975
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First, before you put something in BOLD lettertype, make sure it is correct...
Let me explain.. it is possible to get survivor and legendary defender of ascalon on the same char, all you need is patience (that is always needed when going for LDOA) and a very very very dedicated friend/guildie/brother/secondary pc running gw... Just stand far enough back and let your friend/guildie/brother/sec pc death level on the baddy... when it is a high enough level storm in and kill it... you get exp, and don't die... it isn't soloable, but it works.. |
I have previously detailed how to get the title without dying.
The way you describe is impossible, the reson for this is that you can't rez people more than once in pre, the only way to do it is the rez signet, which after one use cannot be used again. The only way for your friend to be rezed again would be for you to die, therefore defeating the point of using them.