Zoom Scrolling: Lost in a Sea of Complaints

Rhedd

Rhedd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

You ever have to clean up after a Moa bird?

True Solunastra [SLA] Profession: Moa Wrangler

As anyone reading these boards for ten seconds will notice, there are plenty of issues for people to complain about. Big issues. Issues that effect a lot of people in a lot of ways.

I'm not going to talk about those. ^_^

Recently, an update changed the mouse scroll so that instead of zooming smoothly from first to third-person view, there's this huge sticking gap before the camera will move out. This was done, supposedly, to make it "easier" to play in first-person perspective.

So did ANYONE actually have a problem with the old system? Was it so hard for people who wanted to stay in first-person view to just, oh, I don't know... not touch your mouse wheel?

I know it's a tiny, tiny issue, but as someone who swaps from first to third-person perspective a lot during play, I'm really starting to loathe the new system.

A lot.

If things that weren't broken must get fixed, can we at least get a toggle in the options, please?

Seriously, did anyone have a problem with it the way it was?

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Is that a rhetorical question? If people had a problem, we'd have heard massive whining theads about "LOL SCROLLING!!"

But we didn't. That update made no sense.

Rhedd

Rhedd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

You ever have to clean up after a Moa bird?

True Solunastra [SLA] Profession: Moa Wrangler

Actually, yeah, it was a bit of a rhetorical question. ^_^

Now if they'd just change it back before I pull my hair out...

Mekkakat

Mekkakat

Whiner

Join Date: Aug 2006

put it this way..

instead of fixing balance, AI, meta, and scaling problems...

this is what ANET does to "fix" the game!

BOOYEAH!

Hiotoko

Hiotoko

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

It's driving me crazy...I fail to see how this makes it "easier" to play in first-person, they really need to switch it back. All you have to do is scroll the mouse wheel and you're zoomed in, making it more time consuming to zoom out doesn't make any sense.

UnknownGuest01

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Pirate Bay

Pirates Of The Searing[YoHo]

N/W

It's not that bad.

Rampager

Rampager

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Australia

Mo/

yeah really annoying would like it to be changed back

prism2525

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

E/

Old way was better... for me at least

DKS

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Texas

Psycho Titans

R/

I find it annoying, but nothing extremely bad.

Razorblade Monkey

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

A/

/signed

Very annoying, as I too switch between both modes and I still don't quite get why 1st person players would ever need to touch view change controls at all if they don't change views, and why on earth would dual-view users would want an instant view change one way and a delayed view change the other...

eh, that's my 2 cents anyhoo...

Muspellsheimr

Muspellsheimr

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

One reason I did not play in first person in the past was because of the limited view of the field from that position.

The primary reason I did not use first person is because of the constant red flashes from taking damage - if they want to make first person easier to play with - REMOVE THIS

Back on subject, the scrolling update is not that damaging to game play, but it IS annoying and quite pointless. Maby if ArenaNet thought about what they where doing once in a while before putting it in the game...

Shadis

Shadis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

It is things mentioned in previous comments here that constantly make me wonder "What are they thinking, and who is giving this stuff the green light?!".

This new zoom thing seems entirely pointless, there really was nothing wrong with the old style. Why fix what wasn't broken?

Noanoa

Noanoa

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Finland

I Need Scissors [Aivo]

Rt/

It bothers me too >_> though it's mostly my own fault for having a mouse with a stiff scrolling wheel, so sometimes I can't get out of 1st person mode at all.

I'd love it if they'd make it an option in the F11 panel, you could switch it on of off depending on your style of play. I'd also love the ability to switch all auras, damage numbers and effects and such off as well, but that's beside the point.

Nexus Icon

Nexus Icon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Natis Ignigena

Me/

I thought this was a bug, not an intended feature addition, but if it WAS intended, someone at ANet needs to get back on the short bus...

Kashrlyyk

Kashrlyyk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Could be that someone at ANet had a problem with the old system!?

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

I don't know of anyone who uses First Person view anyway...it has no point.

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

W/

it is rather annoying....i only go inot First PoV for brieaf periods of time...and it is bothersome that you can't easily switch back out like you used to be able to...

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

It didn't seem necessary at all.

1. Don't touch the wheel.
2. Who plays in 1st Person?
3. How does the fix solve the problem?
4. No one seems to care anyway.

Saphatorael

Saphatorael

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhedd
As anyone reading these boards for ten seconds will notice, there are plenty of issues for people to complain about. Big issues. Issues that effect a lot of people in a lot of ways.

I'm not going to talk about those. ^_^

Recently, an update changed the mouse scroll so that instead of zooming smoothly from first to third-person view, there's this huge sticking gap before the camera will move out. This was done, supposedly, to make it "easier" to play in first-person perspective.

So did ANYONE actually have a problem with the old system? Was it so hard for people who wanted to stay in first-person view to just, oh, I don't know... not touch your mouse wheel?

I know it's a tiny, tiny issue, but as someone who swaps from first to third-person perspective a lot during play, I'm really starting to loathe the new system.

A lot.

If things that weren't broken must get fixed, can we at least get a toggle in the options, please?

Seriously, did anyone have a problem with it the way it was?
I have the same issue with you.
I preferred the old way of playing it like that, it's horribly annoying to get the camera view set properly, I always used to zoom completely in, then zoom out for 2 'notches' on my mouse wheel. Now I can't do that anymore, and am just messing around with my mouse wheel to get my usual view.

Wouldn't mind having this 'feature' a toggle-ish thing.

King Kong

King Kong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak
2. Who plays in 1st Person?
I do when I'm walking about from mob to mob, gives me something to do scrolling back and forth

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/

/signed

I didn't even realize that it was something they did on purpose. I just thought it was lag or something. It is very annoying and I'd like to see it changed back.

Amon Warrior

Amon Warrior

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

W/

Actually giving themselves the trouble to facilitate a first-person perspective on an essentially strategic game, and in the process, making things more annoying to the majority of players who wouldn't even bother to use it?

Now, that's funny...

l Batman l

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

After reading this thread I'm convinced there is a direct connection between Guild Wars and OCD.

TreeDude

TreeDude

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Buffalo, NY, USA

Dragon Storm

E/Mo

How about a hotkey for first person perspective. That way 1 touch in and out of first person. That way they can keep the little delay they seem to like so much.

allience

allience

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/Me

this change is so annoying! i have to scroll twice to get out of first person. in the long run while i pvp it makes my finger sore... theres this place where i hide from ranged attaks and i have to scroll in. scrolling out is damn annoying now.

it was a pointless update that just breated an inconvenience. i hope they change it to the normal smooth way it was.

Brianna

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

First person play in GW is practically useless anyway, it stings and burns your eyes playing in first person (getting nuked anyone?) and also it makes you lag like no other.. And all together it's just not that tactical. that's just my opinion, but yeah i guess gap-scroll thing is a tad bit on the annoying side but i don't care about it really.

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

/singed

this annoyed me as i liked just scrolling back and fourth out

Bekkr

Bekkr

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australia

[]

N/

/signed

Seems a silly thing to spend programming time "fixing" something that didn't really seem broken in the first place.

Miral

Miral

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Hell. AKA Phoenix, AZ

The Gear Trick [GEAR]

W/A

it was a bit too sensitive before, but they did go way overboard on the "fix"

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

1st person is good for screenies, just to throw out a use for it.

undeadgun

undeadgun

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

US

Its Rainning Fame Hallelujah[伞回伞], also as guild leader

N/

noticed, and didnt like it...want old one back

Harvest

Harvest

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

i like looking at myself, infact i'm posting right now just to check out my avater.

Harvest

Harvest

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

yeah i just notice while editing my avater i can't get as close as i use to, Damit A-net i want to see more of myself and other people !

Mouser

Mouser

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Defenders of Gods

N/Me

People actually play in first-person?

/signed. Annoying change, when I accidentally scroll in too far.

Brianna

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Harvest
yeah i just notice while editing my avater i can't get as close as i use to, Damit A-net i want to see more of myself and other people !
Lol just hold down your mouse wheel and move the mouse up, you can get as close as you want without fully going in.. (if your mouse can do that).

Titan Undone

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2007

The Black Swordsmen

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianna
Lol just hold down your mouse wheel and move the mouse up, you can get as close as you want without fully going in.. (if your mouse can do that).
My mouse doesn't work that way anymore after the update. I tried and it doesn't do anything at all. I am curious if they removed that aspect of it as well as add the gap. Sucks.

Zeander

Zeander

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Florida

Illusions of Aphrodite [LUST]

R/E

I don't see how anyone can play in first person... how do you see what's going on around you? Anyways, noticed the change but thought it was my piece of junk mouse! Annoying yes, but nothing I can't get over.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

i Scroll in and out, but never stay more than 10 seconds in first person mode, which i do when im looking at other people armor:P

But yeah it is kinda annoying, i was noticing this yesterday

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

It was a very annoying nerf/update and one that wasn't needed nor wanted at all. Completely unnecessary. Should be reverted. Old system far more comfortable... need i repeat more?

ElinoraNeSangre

ElinoraNeSangre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Near Seattle, WA

Talionis De Cineris [EXUR]

N/Me

The new way is driving me up the wall. I can't do any fine tuning it feels like. It was a lot easier to zoom. :P