Best Elite in the Game
Elementer Masta
I'll go ahead and list by professions. This is from a PvE vantage point as well.
Warrior
[skill]Dragon Slash[/skill]
Monk
[skill]Zealous Benediction[/skill]
Mesmer
[skill]Energy Surge[/skill]
Elementalist
[skill]Savannah Heat[/skill]
Ranger
[skill]Barrage[/skill]
Necromancer
[skill]Spiteful Spirit[/skill]
Assassin
[skill]Flashing Blades[/skill] or [skill]Moebius Strike[/skill] Depends on whether or not Defense is key.
Ritualist
[skill]Ritual Lord[/skill] or [skill]Vengeful Was Khanhei[/skill] Depends on casual PvE or Farming
Dervish
[skill]Reaper's Sweep[/skill]
Paragon
[skill]Focused Anger[/skill]
Warrior
[skill]Dragon Slash[/skill]
Monk
[skill]Zealous Benediction[/skill]
Mesmer
[skill]Energy Surge[/skill]
Elementalist
[skill]Savannah Heat[/skill]
Ranger
[skill]Barrage[/skill]
Necromancer
[skill]Spiteful Spirit[/skill]
Assassin
[skill]Flashing Blades[/skill] or [skill]Moebius Strike[/skill] Depends on whether or not Defense is key.
Ritualist
[skill]Ritual Lord[/skill] or [skill]Vengeful Was Khanhei[/skill] Depends on casual PvE or Farming
Dervish
[skill]Reaper's Sweep[/skill]
Paragon
[skill]Focused Anger[/skill]
Kaida the Heartless
Best Elites:
Ranger: Distracting Shot
Monk: Reversal of Fortune
Elementalist: Stoneflesh Aura
Oh, wait a sec... :]
Ranger: Distracting Shot
Monk: Reversal of Fortune
Elementalist: Stoneflesh Aura
Oh, wait a sec... :]
street peddler
[skill]weapon of remedy[/skill] is a really good elite..
Sword
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Originally Posted by Zamochit
[skill]light of deliverance[/skill]
the obvious answer...
the obvious answer...
DeBron
Warrior
[skill]Eviscerate[/skill]
Monk
[skill]Healer's Boon[/skill][skill]Divert Hexes[/skill]
Mesmer
[skill]Energy Surge[/skill][skill]Mantra of Recovery[/skill]
Elementalist
[skill]Savannah Heat[/skill]
Ranger
[skill]Barrage[/skill][skill]Burning Arrow[/skill]
Necromancer
[skill]Spiteful Spirit[/skill][skill]Blood is Power[/skill]
Assassin
[skill]Shadow Prison[/skill][skill]Way of the Assassin[/skill]
Ritualist
[skill]Ritual Lord[/skill][skill]Weapon of Remedy[/skill][skill]Offering of Spirit[/skill]
Dervish
[skill]Reaper's Sweep[/skill][skill]Vow of Strength[/skill]
Paragon
[skill]Angelic Bond[/skill]
[skill]Eviscerate[/skill]
Monk
[skill]Healer's Boon[/skill][skill]Divert Hexes[/skill]
Mesmer
[skill]Energy Surge[/skill][skill]Mantra of Recovery[/skill]
Elementalist
[skill]Savannah Heat[/skill]
Ranger
[skill]Barrage[/skill][skill]Burning Arrow[/skill]
Necromancer
[skill]Spiteful Spirit[/skill][skill]Blood is Power[/skill]
Assassin
[skill]Shadow Prison[/skill][skill]Way of the Assassin[/skill]
Ritualist
[skill]Ritual Lord[/skill][skill]Weapon of Remedy[/skill][skill]Offering of Spirit[/skill]
Dervish
[skill]Reaper's Sweep[/skill][skill]Vow of Strength[/skill]
Paragon
[skill]Angelic Bond[/skill]
Kris
I'd have to agree with LoD, its the perfect skill to take to places like the final battle of Nightfall for obvious reasons if you have ever been there. It's basically "Heal Party" but spammable and low-cost.
blue.rellik
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Originally Posted by Kris
I'd have to agree with LoD, its the perfect skill to take to places like the final battle of Nightfall for obvious reasons if you have ever been there. It's basically "Heal Party" but spammable and low-cost.
[skill]Weapon of Remedy[/skill] > [skill]Light of Deliverance[/skill]
Kris
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Originally Posted by blue.rellik
[skill]Weapon of Remedy[/skill] > [skill]Light of Deliverance[/skill]
I beg to differ...
One requires 40 energy to place on every team member, one takes 5 energy.
One takes 29.25 seconds to place on every team member, one takes 1 second.
One requires 40 energy to place on every team member, one takes 5 energy.
One takes 29.25 seconds to place on every team member, one takes 1 second.
blue.rellik
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Originally Posted by Kris
I beg to differ...
One requires 40 energy to place on every team member, one takes 5 energy.
One takes 29.25 seconds to place on every team member, one takes 1 second. lawl
use WoR against Abaddon then come back here m'kay?
One requires 40 energy to place on every team member, one takes 5 energy.
One takes 29.25 seconds to place on every team member, one takes 1 second. lawl
use WoR against Abaddon then come back here m'kay?
moko
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Originally Posted by blue.rellik
lawl
use WoR against Abaddon then come back here m'kay? WoR requires your target to get HIT to lose the condition, and i can't say your monks are often targets by the few mobs that are around, besides, ever heard off draw conditions or extingwhateverthenamewas?
you need some actual heal in that mission, not prot, and WoR is considered prot, it heals on hit, not when you need it.
use WoR against Abaddon then come back here m'kay? WoR requires your target to get HIT to lose the condition, and i can't say your monks are often targets by the few mobs that are around, besides, ever heard off draw conditions or extingwhateverthenamewas?
you need some actual heal in that mission, not prot, and WoR is considered prot, it heals on hit, not when you need it.
Tab
LoD>WoR. That will be all.
blue.rellik
lawl u ppl mack me sad
Try read the post I quoted m'kay?
Didn't get it? Here I'll bold it for you
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I'd have to agree with LoD, its the perfect skill to take to places like the final battle of Nightfall for obvious reasons if you have ever been there. It's basically "Heal Party" but spammable and low-cost.
Get it now m'kay or must I explain some more?
Try read the post I quoted m'kay?
Didn't get it? Here I'll bold it for you
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Turbobusa
so they dont have the same use. one is for healing, the other for damaging ( from what you said before, i understand you use it for that- if its for condition removing, bring sogolon and take a better elite)
no point in comparing them.
[skill]eviscerate[/skill]
I know, so common but heck I so like the noise it makes when you activate it.
MoR, blessed light, LoD, so many...
"lol u so uber 7 min wtf u pwn us all" that sure makes wor > lod
no point in comparing them.
[skill]eviscerate[/skill]
I know, so common but heck I so like the noise it makes when you activate it.
MoR, blessed light, LoD, so many...
"lol u so uber 7 min wtf u pwn us all" that sure makes wor > lod
blue.rellik
My bad, I guess not everyone knows about killing Abaddon HM in less than 7 minutes
Stormlord Alex
OH? Haven't posted here yet?
Well, time for postcount+1...
Bearing in mind my 'favourite' elites aren't always the 'best'... they're just the ones I enjoy using most ^_^
Warrior
[skill]earth shaker[/skill] rawr.
Elementalist
... straight tie between [skill]blinding surge[/skill] and [skill]mind blast[/skill] ... pissing off 'sins or infinite energy? :X
Ranger
[skill]crippling shot[/skill] Ooohh, yeah.
Mesmer
[skill]expel hexes[/skill] 'nuff said. Heck, I run this on paragons and ritualists...
Necromancer
[skill]spoil victor[/skill] "Veni, vidi, PWNed"
Monk
[skill]signet of judgment[/skill] Yeah, well... Shoot me.
Assassin
[skill]siphon strength[/skill] without a doubt. SP is lame.
Ritualist
[skill]wanderlust[/skill] What can I say? I'm a bitch
Dervish
[skill]avatar of melandru[/skill] ... 'cuz I like the dance <3 If it didn't do that... Wounding Strike.
Paragon
[skill]"it's just a flesh wound."[/skill] Python fan, naturally.
Well, time for postcount+1...
Bearing in mind my 'favourite' elites aren't always the 'best'... they're just the ones I enjoy using most ^_^
Warrior
[skill]earth shaker[/skill] rawr.
Elementalist
... straight tie between [skill]blinding surge[/skill] and [skill]mind blast[/skill] ... pissing off 'sins or infinite energy? :X
Ranger
[skill]crippling shot[/skill] Ooohh, yeah.
Mesmer
[skill]expel hexes[/skill] 'nuff said. Heck, I run this on paragons and ritualists...
Necromancer
[skill]spoil victor[/skill] "Veni, vidi, PWNed"
Monk
[skill]signet of judgment[/skill] Yeah, well... Shoot me.
Assassin
[skill]siphon strength[/skill] without a doubt. SP is lame.
Ritualist
[skill]wanderlust[/skill] What can I say? I'm a bitch
Dervish
[skill]avatar of melandru[/skill] ... 'cuz I like the dance <3 If it didn't do that... Wounding Strike.
Paragon
[skill]"it's just a flesh wound."[/skill] Python fan, naturally.
zling
[skill]life barrier[/skill] and [skill]angelic bond[/skill]
bonders PWN you, especially in PvE farming
bonders PWN you, especially in PvE farming
acidic
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Originally Posted by Mokone
WoR requires your target to get HIT to lose the condition, and i can't say your monks are often targets by the few mobs that are around, besides, ever heard off draw conditions or extingwhateverthenamewas?
you need some actual heal in that mission, not prot, and WoR is considered prot, it heals on hit, not when you need it. wow... have you actually used wor or for that matter any reverse damages?
Run in kill the side monoliths (4 of them).
Run back to the center
spam reversal of damage, wor etc. etc...
Set monk on heal area
wait couple min
abbadons dies
you need some actual heal in that mission, not prot, and WoR is considered prot, it heals on hit, not when you need it. wow... have you actually used wor or for that matter any reverse damages?
Run in kill the side monoliths (4 of them).
Run back to the center
spam reversal of damage, wor etc. etc...
Set monk on heal area
wait couple min
abbadons dies
moko
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Originally Posted by acidic
wow... have you actually used wor or for that matter any reverse damages?
Run in kill the side monoliths (4 of them).
Run back to the center
spam reversal of damage, wor etc. etc...
Set monk on heal area
wait couple min
abbadons dies make sense please. nothing of the crap you just said really made sense.
Abaddon doesn't attack, how are you supposed to damage him with WoR?
Heal area? lol...i'm sorry, but wtf?!
my point was, that when mobs don't attack your dazed target (monk), he doesn't lose a condition, and if there's no mobs around and you fight abaddon only you're totally useless. if you get hit, yay for tanking monks?
Run in kill the side monoliths (4 of them).
Run back to the center
spam reversal of damage, wor etc. etc...
Set monk on heal area
wait couple min
abbadons dies make sense please. nothing of the crap you just said really made sense.
Abaddon doesn't attack, how are you supposed to damage him with WoR?
Heal area? lol...i'm sorry, but wtf?!
my point was, that when mobs don't attack your dazed target (monk), he doesn't lose a condition, and if there's no mobs around and you fight abaddon only you're totally useless. if you get hit, yay for tanking monks?
Turbobusa
^the skill that inflicts daze to everyone in your party is used by abaddon, therefore he takes damage when using it on a target with wor.
but farming abaddon isn't enough a reason to make wor > lod.
but farming abaddon isn't enough a reason to make wor > lod.
lacasner
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Originally Posted by Mokone
make sense please. nothing of the crap you just said really made sense.
Abaddon doesn't attack, how are you supposed to damage him with WoR?
Heal area? lol...i'm sorry, but wtf?!
my point was, that when mobs don't attack your dazed target (monk), he doesn't lose a condition, and if there's no mobs around and you fight abaddon only you're totally useless. if you get hit, yay for tanking monks? You can practically stand afk and beat abaddon lolz.
Abaddon doesn't attack, how are you supposed to damage him with WoR?
Heal area? lol...i'm sorry, but wtf?!
my point was, that when mobs don't attack your dazed target (monk), he doesn't lose a condition, and if there's no mobs around and you fight abaddon only you're totally useless. if you get hit, yay for tanking monks? You can practically stand afk and beat abaddon lolz.
moko
haha, didn't know. i'm sorry then, feel free to call me pve noob. ;P
blue.rellik
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Originally Posted by Turbobusa
^the skill that inflicts daze to everyone in your party is used by abaddon, therefore he takes damage when using it on a target with wor.
but farming abaddon isn't enough a reason to make wor > lod. I said WoR > LoD ONLY because the person I quoted said that LoD was the best elite against Abaddon. Obviously that is incorrect
but farming abaddon isn't enough a reason to make wor > lod. I said WoR > LoD ONLY because the person I quoted said that LoD was the best elite against Abaddon. Obviously that is incorrect
Kris
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Originally Posted by blue.rellik
lawl
use WoR against Abaddon then come back here m'kay? Ok, blue. I'm trying to understand you on this WoR subject, but one thing I don't understand is this: WoR has 3 second recharge, and lasts for 8 seconds. This means you can cast it on only 3 people before its run out on the first. 5 people are unprotected by WoR and dying or dazed. Do I assume you use 2 or 3 monks with WoR, and pre-determine who casts on who, to achieve what you describe?
More on subject, an oddball suggestion possibly, but a 0.25 sec cast time, 2 second recharge, 5 energy monk heal has impressed me lately.
[skill]glimmer of light[/skill]
Not everyones cup of tea, but its spammability and fast cast time works very well to counter spikes in combination with medium-heavy prot.
Another elite I would regard as best in its class, is for the warrior. Non-stop skills, the only thing that will stop you is a mursaat tower. Creates very high DPS via your skills.
[skill]Warrior's Endurance[/skill]
My Necro loves the chance to use this in organised PvP/GvG, and I think its probably the best and least used curse.
[skill]Lingering Curse[/skill]
And finally my mesmer can't stop using [skill]Panic[/skill] and [skill]Ineptitude[/skill] both on par I would say for their particular uses.
use WoR against Abaddon then come back here m'kay? Ok, blue. I'm trying to understand you on this WoR subject, but one thing I don't understand is this: WoR has 3 second recharge, and lasts for 8 seconds. This means you can cast it on only 3 people before its run out on the first. 5 people are unprotected by WoR and dying or dazed. Do I assume you use 2 or 3 monks with WoR, and pre-determine who casts on who, to achieve what you describe?
More on subject, an oddball suggestion possibly, but a 0.25 sec cast time, 2 second recharge, 5 energy monk heal has impressed me lately.
[skill]glimmer of light[/skill]
Not everyones cup of tea, but its spammability and fast cast time works very well to counter spikes in combination with medium-heavy prot.
Another elite I would regard as best in its class, is for the warrior. Non-stop skills, the only thing that will stop you is a mursaat tower. Creates very high DPS via your skills.
[skill]Warrior's Endurance[/skill]
My Necro loves the chance to use this in organised PvP/GvG, and I think its probably the best and least used curse.
[skill]Lingering Curse[/skill]
And finally my mesmer can't stop using [skill]Panic[/skill] and [skill]Ineptitude[/skill] both on par I would say for their particular uses.
blue.rellik
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Originally Posted by Kris
Ok, blue. I'm trying to understand you on this WoR subject, but one thing I don't understand is this: WoR has 3 second recharge, and lasts for 8 seconds. This means you can cast it on only 3 people before its run out on the first. 5 people are unprotected by WoR and dying or dazed. Do I assume you use 2 or 3 monks with WoR, and pre-determine who casts on who, to achieve what you describe?
Go into hard mode and bring Tahlk, Dunk and Razah. You go /rt and bring Weapon of Remedy. For Tahk and Dunk, give them Reversal of Damage and WoR and max the attributes for them, same with Razah
For the hencies, bring some with high damage (like Devonna or w/e)
Enter the mission and go and kill the groups of Graven Monoliths at Abaddon's hands, once you have killed them go back near the bridge and stay there
From then on, just SPAM Reversal of Damage and Weapon of Remedy
Watch Abaddon's life bar
For the hencies, bring some with high damage (like Devonna or w/e)
Enter the mission and go and kill the groups of Graven Monoliths at Abaddon's hands, once you have killed them go back near the bridge and stay there
From then on, just SPAM Reversal of Damage and Weapon of Remedy
Watch Abaddon's life bar
Blkout
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Originally Posted by blue.rellik
Go into hard mode and bring Tahlk, Dunk and Razah. You go /rt and bring Weapon of Remedy. For Tahk and Dunk, give them Reversal of Damage and WoR and max the attributes for them, same with Razah
For the hencies, bring some with high damage (like Devonna or w/e)
Enter the mission and go and kill the groups of Graven Monoliths at Abaddon's hands, once you have killed them go back near the bridge and stay there
From then on, just SPAM Reversal of Damage and Weapon of Remedy
Watch Abaddon's life bar This is a known cheat and is posted on the GW Wiki sites. You don't need WoR to kill Abaddon this way, only RoD is needed. WoR might speed up the process but isn't required to kill him using this cheat. This is not a good justification for using WoR.
For the hencies, bring some with high damage (like Devonna or w/e)
Enter the mission and go and kill the groups of Graven Monoliths at Abaddon's hands, once you have killed them go back near the bridge and stay there
From then on, just SPAM Reversal of Damage and Weapon of Remedy
Watch Abaddon's life bar This is a known cheat and is posted on the GW Wiki sites. You don't need WoR to kill Abaddon this way, only RoD is needed. WoR might speed up the process but isn't required to kill him using this cheat. This is not a good justification for using WoR.
blue.rellik
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Originally Posted by Blkout
Quote: WoR might speed up the process but isn't required to kill him using this cheat. Wow you're a genius aren't you? Can you explain to me WHY you wouldn't want to kill Abaddon as fast as possible? With your incredibly intelligent line of thinking warriors are not required to go beyond 12 in their weapon attribute (and Rangers, sins, gons and dervishs for that matter) because they can still kill things with lvl 12 instead of lvl 16. Necros and eles don't need to bring big hitting spells, firestorm and flare is enough because if you attack them long enough with it, you will eventually kill it. Searing flames and spiteful spirit might speed up the process of killing something but it isn't required to kill something.
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This is not a good justification for using WoR.
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Lawl
Using the exploit (look what cheat is in the dictionary) can reduce the time taken to beat Abaddon by what 10 minutes? You still haven't given me a reason why not to use it Quote: |
Isn't that cheating like this? You're taking advantage of the games mechanic to make it easier to reach a goal, in this case you're avoiding the fight against the spawned units.
What about Urgoz? People were exploiting the fact that the spawned plants interacted with EoE which basically meant that Urgoz was mainly killed by his minions. That's exploiting a game mechanic to make it a lot easier.
Quote: If you choose to go the cheating route, WoR isn't NEEDED to do the job. It's RoD that's needed to get the job done, WoR only speeds up the process. Again use some common sense. WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO TAKE THE LONGER ROUTE FOR THE SAME REWARDS?. Sure the first few times it might be 'fun' to just fight Abaddon normally but obviously would you want to go through the fight every single time when they can make it a lot easier on themselves and save themselves the hassle?
Seriously, why not bring WoR? You totally avoided my point that with you logic, it's not needed to mac attributes or use max damage weapons since you can still kill things. If you're going to use the exploit then you might as well get it done as fast as possible.
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WoR is a nice bonus, but certainly not a requirement. Had you made the argument for RoD, I might have sided with you, even though the cheat is ridiculous.
God you're so hypocritical it's sickening. LoD is a nice bonus but not a requirement. Heal party is fine to cover the damage. See how I'm using your logic here? Quote:
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