What were the reasons for Faction caps on Balthazar, Kurzick, and Luxon Factions, anyways? Since Faction can only be spent in chunks of atleast 1000 Faction, there's little mechanical difference between a 5000 cap or a 10000 cap or a 100000 cap. It's just annoying to take the time while in a group to go to a Priest of Balthazar or Kurzick/Luxon rewards to redeem the Faction. And annoying is a bad thing, right?
It will be particularly annoying during this weekend's double AB bonus, where you'll hit the cap in about 3-4 matches or so. Then you have to disband your group and reform it. It will[ be annoying.
Thoughts?
Remove Faction Caps
Zinger314
Winterclaw
I wouldn't have any problem if they got rid of the faction caps.
No arguement there; I think Anet is starting to like annoying the fan base by executing poorly thought out schemes, features, events, and updates.
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Every time i lag
why dont they did it already anyway?
Gargle Blaster
when you earn your pvp titles your cap gets increased...
edit: my bad... apparently its only for Balthazar faction your Kurzick/Luxon faction does not go up with the friend titles
/sign for this to work as other pvp titles...
edit: my bad... apparently its only for Balthazar faction your Kurzick/Luxon faction does not go up with the friend titles
/sign for this to work as other pvp titles...
vergerefosh
Balthazar cap could be said to be in place to encourage people not to hold halls for a long time way back when if they used it, but most people would rather win then spend it, so less applicable. Kurzick/Luxon cap could have been put in place in order to explicitly stop people playing map after map in a similar fashion to Balth, but it doesn't make sense anymore, and especially with this weekend should just be removed
axe
/signed for Balthz faction
you earned the faction so why does it matter when you spend it.
I would guess that with the Lux/Kurz faction caps that it helps to minimize the effectiveness of leechers? I mean if you could just sit AFK for the entire day and leech faction then when you get a chance go spend it, that might encourage leeching, but I dont know.
Its so funny because the people that probably dont need the high faction caps are the ones that have the high faction caps. Those PvP players with UAX and millions of balth faction dont even need a higher cap because they have nothing to unlock. People that need to unlock things have to spend the faction as they earn it and then when they actually need the faction theyve spent it all trying not to waste it.
If they did something about leechers I would be all for the other factions not having a cap.
you earned the faction so why does it matter when you spend it.
I would guess that with the Lux/Kurz faction caps that it helps to minimize the effectiveness of leechers? I mean if you could just sit AFK for the entire day and leech faction then when you get a chance go spend it, that might encourage leeching, but I dont know.
Its so funny because the people that probably dont need the high faction caps are the ones that have the high faction caps. Those PvP players with UAX and millions of balth faction dont even need a higher cap because they have nothing to unlock. People that need to unlock things have to spend the faction as they earn it and then when they actually need the faction theyve spent it all trying not to waste it.
If they did something about leechers I would be all for the other factions not having a cap.
william1975
/signed
I'm getting sick of havign to leave AB teams simply because i got to 10,000 points, and since i don't want to waste faction i tend to leave just before getting to 10,000, so say for example i got to 9,200 on my last fight I would leave at end of match so i dont risk losing a few hundred points next win.
I'm getting sick of havign to leave AB teams simply because i got to 10,000 points, and since i don't want to waste faction i tend to leave just before getting to 10,000, so say for example i got to 9,200 on my last fight I would leave at end of match so i dont risk losing a few hundred points next win.
Bane of Worlds
/signed for increased cap for kurzick/luxon factions per allegiance rank
the regroup isn't a problem for guild groups that go ab together but it does get pretty annoying at times and this change could getbenefits that other pvp titles give like increased Balthazar faction cap.
the regroup isn't a problem for guild groups that go ab together but it does get pretty annoying at times and this change could getbenefits that other pvp titles give like increased Balthazar faction cap.
legion_rat
/signed it always seems when i have a great ab team we all have to go turn in points.
~the rat~
~the rat~
Div
I don't mind the cap, but I'd like to see an increase in the cap by 5k luxon/kurzick for every level you have in the title.
onerabbit
But couldnt people use this to get towns? .. all save up like 50k each
thats 50k that wont get taxed.
u get 10 people in the guild, thats 50k x 10 = 500k
then do the same for the whole alliance .. so 5mil
all put it in at the last min before the border changes .. bang u get a town.
and u just keep putting it in at the last min before the border changes for a big chunk.
i mean a guild of one could own cavalon for a few hours ..
if he saves up long enough as he wont get taxed.
So i think it needs a Cap, maybe what holymasamune sugested
thats 50k that wont get taxed.
u get 10 people in the guild, thats 50k x 10 = 500k
then do the same for the whole alliance .. so 5mil
all put it in at the last min before the border changes .. bang u get a town.
and u just keep putting it in at the last min before the border changes for a big chunk.
i mean a guild of one could own cavalon for a few hours ..
if he saves up long enough as he wont get taxed.
So i think it needs a Cap, maybe what holymasamune sugested
HawkofStorms
/notsigned
Onerabbit makes a very good point.
Onerabbit makes a very good point.
bhavv
/signed
My balth faction is always too full and I have to spend it on those stupid tournament tokens I dont even need. Just remove the cap. I would probably have had 10 million by now if there was no cap instead of 1.5 million.
My balth faction is always too full and I have to spend it on those stupid tournament tokens I dont even need. Just remove the cap. I would probably have had 10 million by now if there was no cap instead of 1.5 million.
Kool Pajamas
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/signed
My balth faction is always too full and I have to spend it on those stupid tournament tokens I dont even need. Just remove the cap. I would probably have had 10 million by now if there was no cap instead of 1.5 million. |
Yawgmoth
First, make the (balth) faction useful for something... Now i don't care if some faction gets wasted or i spend them on another stack of near-useless tournament tokens...
If there were no cap, most people would just get instant UAX after release of next campagin/expansion. With those caps it will at least take a couple weeks until faction becomes useless again.
for kurzick/luxon titles i dunno really, maybe those friend of xx should increase those caps.
If there were no cap, most people would just get instant UAX after release of next campagin/expansion. With those caps it will at least take a couple weeks until faction becomes useless again.
for kurzick/luxon titles i dunno really, maybe those friend of xx should increase those caps.
Random Monk
How about adding the people to donate faction to the alliance and trade for the appropriate crafting material in the AB, Jade Quarry, and Aspenwood outposts?
No one would have to leave the team, only have the team wait an extra minute. You can go into the battles with plenty of room to gain faction. You can't go afk forever. You can't use this to "spike" your guild/alliance's faction.
No one would have to leave the team, only have the team wait an extra minute. You can go into the battles with plenty of room to gain faction. You can't go afk forever. You can't use this to "spike" your guild/alliance's faction.
Hyper.nl
/notsigned
Not signed until ANet fixes the AFK leeching at Aspenwood.
Not signed until ANet fixes the AFK leeching at Aspenwood.
prism2525
maybe the luxon/kurzick faction... but why on earth does the balth faction has to have a cap? You ain't gonna do anything with that except unblock stuff or buy tokens...
MithranArkanere
If the problem is having to disband to use the points, just put the reward and faction NPCs in the outposts.
Increasing the cap would allow less players to save much more faction and make much harder the acquisition of cities and outposts. Newly formed alliances and new players would have a much hard time to get them, and older players with higher ranks would just have to fill their caps and use them at the same time to get anything. The current system prevent Older alliances from resting on their laurels.
If the faction allegiance are to have any kind of 'bonus' that bonus should be that the NPCs ignore your allegiance. The farther you are in the map, the higher you need your rank to be so it does not matter to them the faction you are or have gathered. With level 1, NPCs in Harvest temple would ignore your alliegance, with a maxed allegiance title, NPCs in cities will ignore it.
Increasing the cap would allow less players to save much more faction and make much harder the acquisition of cities and outposts. Newly formed alliances and new players would have a much hard time to get them, and older players with higher ranks would just have to fill their caps and use them at the same time to get anything. The current system prevent Older alliances from resting on their laurels.
If the faction allegiance are to have any kind of 'bonus' that bonus should be that the NPCs ignore your allegiance. The farther you are in the map, the higher you need your rank to be so it does not matter to them the faction you are or have gathered. With level 1, NPCs in Harvest temple would ignore your alliegance, with a maxed allegiance title, NPCs in cities will ignore it.
Perfected Shadow
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bilateralrope
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But couldnt people use this to get towns? .. all save up like 50k each
thats 50k that wont get taxed. u get 10 people in the guild, thats 50k x 10 = 500k then do the same for the whole alliance .. so 5mil all put it in at the last min before the border changes .. bang u get a town. and u just keep putting it in at the last min before the border changes for a big chunk. i mean a guild of one could own cavalon for a few hours .. if he saves up long enough as he wont get taxed. So i think it needs a Cap, maybe what holymasamune sugested |
So if you overreach with a spike, that will get you a town for a few days until either someone hits with a bigger spike or you decay below the level your alliance can sustain. And if your somehow figure out something crafty with the spikes to stay above the alliances that farm more faction per day, they will figure it out and still beat you once your faction decays.
So what is the actual harm or the towns changing hands a lot more than they currently do ?
Though the other option is to have no actual cap, but your faction over a certain point suffers decay back to that cap, so that such spikes aren't possible.
WARPATh
/signed
it would be nice
it would be nice
Unforgivablesin
Sounds great to me, I HATE the cap, I see no benefits from it but to force people afk and to stop what their doing. Maybe to help prevent from leechers and such but what are they gonna do with balth points >.> too many times ive overdone the balth faction and then when i need it i run out, hardly fair.
SlyClone
Actually guys/gals this prevent leechers from taking advantage of the system. Having to leave the AB map every 10,000 points discourages people who would leech 24/7. They make it so that you have to leave the area once in a while. Thus bot-proof.
AOD_EaSyKiLL
/signed
This should be looked into.
This should be looked into.
upier
Thanks for raising this stiffy!
/signed
Although I guess the request to raise the cap on Balths faction does lose it point a bit today - but the whole 10k on Luxon/Kurzy should be raised - if in no other way as you advance in the ranks!
/signed
Although I guess the request to raise the cap on Balths faction does lose it point a bit today - but the whole 10k on Luxon/Kurzy should be raised - if in no other way as you advance in the ranks!
princess jessie
/signed
remove it or raise it very high so we can stay with our groups
remove it or raise it very high so we can stay with our groups
Zahr Dalsk
/signed for Kurz/Lux cap removal.
Konig Des Todes
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/signed for increased cap for kurzick/luxon factions per allegiance rank
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I would guess that with the Lux/Kurz faction caps that it helps to minimize the effectiveness of leechers? I mean if you could just sit AFK for the entire day and leech faction then when you get a chance go spend it, that might encourage leeching, but I dont know.
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pamelf
/signed. Or at least raise it substantially.
Issac
/sign, it seems like a good idea.
Zapper901
/signed, wanted this for a while.
Lady Raenef
Past rank 2, I'd say increase the cap by 1,000 faction. So, by rank 12, you can have up to 20,000 as your limitation.
Unlimited only calls for bothersome annoyances. I have 29,000 on my Balthazar cap. That's fine and dandy. 10,000 serves me fine in the Alliance Battles. If anything, offer a guy to give Tournament Tokens and Zaishen keys in the Alliance Battle outposts.
Unless one of these changes come into play, I shall remain,
/unsigned
Unlimited only calls for bothersome annoyances. I have 29,000 on my Balthazar cap. That's fine and dandy. 10,000 serves me fine in the Alliance Battles. If anything, offer a guy to give Tournament Tokens and Zaishen keys in the Alliance Battle outposts.
Unless one of these changes come into play, I shall remain,
/unsigned
Ultra Mega
Balth faction only had a cap so you couldn't stockpile it before a new game came out and unlock everything within minutes. I see no reason for this to keep this cap with no new games being released.
The luxon/kurzick faction has a cap to manage the town ownership so a guild cannot stockpile and then donate all at once. I think they should double the cap rather than remove it.
/signed
The luxon/kurzick faction has a cap to manage the town ownership so a guild cannot stockpile and then donate all at once. I think they should double the cap rather than remove it.
/signed
Xebedinct
/signed for cap increase
Removing the cap would lead have too many people abusing it.
Removing the cap would lead have too many people abusing it.
draxynnic
One thing that people going through the Kurz/Lux territories for the first time might appreciate is raising the cap by at least a thousand or so - that way, they can make the ten thousand required to befriend each side without necassarily losing any excess.
MithranArkanere
I don't mid for Balthazar faction, but since PvP are grind titles, they would need another reward to compensate.
For Factions Luxon/Kurzick faction, sorry, but not. Maybe an increase in the cap, but for all, not related to titles, and not too much. Maybe to 20k or 50k.
For Factions Luxon/Kurzick faction, sorry, but not. Maybe an increase in the cap, but for all, not related to titles, and not too much. Maybe to 20k or 50k.
N1ghtstalker
/signed for raising it per rank
Teh [prefession]-zorz
/signed for balth.
/notsigned for kurz/luxon, wouldnt this be like free afk bot farming titles?
/notsigned for kurz/luxon, wouldnt this be like free afk bot farming titles?
Proff
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/signed for balth.
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/notsigned for kurz/luxon, wouldnt this be like free afk bot farming titles?
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