Elite Tome Farm?

Frantic-Sheep

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Putting The Cute In Electrocute [ZZAP]

Mo/Me

26 Jun 2007 at 09:49 - 41

I recently made a ranger and wanted to get some elite tomes for him, the one boss that made me farm him around ~2 min is Chehbaba Roottripper.

Mo/N build 55hp, with Spoil Victor (but SoJ/SS works too). Just go to Aspenwood Gate (Luxon), leave to Mount Qinkai. Put up your enchantments. Cast PS when you encounter the first group of 2/3 spawns. Run along. Put up heal breeze, and shielding hands when you encounter the big group. Recast everything when you encounter Chehbaba. Cast SV. Zone out, zone in and repeat takes about 2/3 min. Oh, and dont hit them with your weapon ;p they have vengeful weapon.

AscalonWarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Kokkola, Finland

Mo/

26 Jun 2007 at 13:29 - 42

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frantic-Sheep
I recently made a ranger and wanted to get some elite tomes for him, the one boss that made me farm him around ~2 min is Chehbaba Roottripper.

Mo/N build 55hp, with Spoil Victor (but SoJ/SS works too). Just go to Aspenwood Gate (Luxon), leave to Mount Qinkai. Put up your enchantments. Cast PS when you encounter the first group of 2/3 spawns. Run along. Put up heal breeze, and shielding hands when you encounter the big group. Recast everything when you encounter Chehbaba. Cast SV. Zone out, zone in and repeat takes about 2/3 min. Oh, and dont hit them with your weapon ;p they have vengeful weapon. Been doing this too If you continue the run, there's also a Ritualist boss, Tomtom Spiriteater

ANTICANCER

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

[KSA]

N/Me

27 Jun 2007 at 04:34 - 43

Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis Crawford
Bosses from whom you can't cap elites don't drop tomes, so that Softskin guy on the Plains of Jarin is NOT a good target. That is incorrect i've gotten an elite paragon tome from softskin, and an ele one from the stormbringer guy.

kielus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

MU-Tants [MU]

27 Jun 2007 at 06:56 - 44

*sigh* let's state it clearly and once and for all...

1. All Bosses drop Elite Tomes of their profession in HM (note BOSSES, not mobs that drop Unique, Green items....)
2. All Bosses that have Elite Skill in NM, have the Elite Skill in HM aswell
3. All Bosses that DO NOT have Elite Skill in NM, DO NOT have Elite Skill in HM (for example old ascalon, plains of jarin, low lvl areas)

not to offtop:

assassin elite tome -> admiral kaya (e/a intensity farmer, watchout as he tends to move back... advisable to bring heket patrol from nearby)

tmakinen

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

www.mybearfriend.net

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

E/

28 Jun 2007 at 10:49 - 45

This is something I did just for the fun of it. The targets were divided 50/50 between my ele and necro.

My current estimate for the elite tome drop rate is about 3%, or less than half of the green drop rate.

El Sabio

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

28 Jun 2007 at 11:30 - 46

can you list up which boss you killed with which build? im interested in killing for necro , warrior, assa and dervish tomes, but never found some to farm solo in hm.

tmakinen

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

www.mybearfriend.net

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

E/

28 Jun 2007 at 12:29 - 47

In alphabetical order:

A Darkroot Entrop - E/A Shadow Form (easy)
D Bubahl Icehands - N/Mo 55 Spoil Victor (hard)
E Exuro Flatus - E/R Obsidian Flesh (easy)
Me Eshim Mindclouder - E/A Shadow Form (easy)
Mo Byzzr Wingmender - N/Me Spiteful Spirit (easy)
N Sessk, Woe Spreader - E/A Shadow Form (medium)
R Zelnehlun Fastfoot - N/A Spiteful Spirit (easy)
Rt Lieutenant Kayin - E/A Shadow Form (easy)
P Jishol Darksong - N/Mo 55 Spiteful Spirit (medium)
W Chor, The Bladed - N/Mo 55 Spoil Victor (easy)

FrAnt1c??

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

Belgium

Legion Of Sacred Light [LSL]

Mo/

28 Jun 2007 at 14:00 - 48

Byzzr wingmender goes faster if you use Spoil Victor and Empathy

The Last Cruzader

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Who Kicked Down Our [Door]

W/A

28 Jun 2007 at 19:12 - 49

Quote:
Originally Posted by RainwalkerC
wuts the drop rate of elite tomes on these bosses? i heard its fairly low, much lower than they drop their greens Really loe, I farmed woe spreader for 80+ runs and got 5 woe spreaders and 0 tomes.

FrAnt1c??

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

Belgium

Legion Of Sacred Light [LSL]

Mo/

29 Jun 2007 at 07:32 - 50

I farmed byzzr wingmender 100 times got nothing, farmed him another 20 times, got 3 scrolls and 3 tomes.

tmakinen

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

www.mybearfriend.net

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

E/

29 Jun 2007 at 11:17 - 51

That's called randomness

It took me about 400 kills to gather the 10 tomes in the image above. That would indicate a drop chance around 2.5% but there's still a considerable margin of error. It might be as low as 1% if I was being lucky, or possibly as high as 4% if I was just having an unlucky streak.

I'm not going to farm another 100 tomes just to narrow down the error margins but if enough people pool their unbiased results the value can be nailed down pretty well.

KANE OG

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ogmios Graybeards

W/

30 Jun 2007 at 02:02 - 52

Quote:
Originally Posted by lennymon
the trick with the build and any build which uses sliver armor, is aggroing enough guys... Like in case of Jishol Darksong you want to pull at least one extra mob of behemoths over for faster damage. No way... in hard mode? How the hell can you pull those guys with an E/A and not get killed or lose aggro? Please enlighten me!

KANE

im no farmer

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Mo/

01 Jul 2007 at 03:38 - 53

managed to get a elite warrior tome drop from mr copplestoney after a few runs so its down to the loot table and luck

The Color Of Hope

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2007

none of your buisness

R/

01 Jul 2007 at 15:50 - 54

The sin bos outside ran musu garden, I have no idea how to spell his name, his green is a starter green, but it has a max enchanting modd so idk, I also got a bunch of gold daggers he goes down in seconds, but I haven't gotten 1 tomb from him, yet I use a A/E

Peter Panic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

ct

Scars Meadows [SMS]

W/

01 Jul 2007 at 19:48 - 55

ive been trying to farm woe spreader for a while now, and ive had no luck at all. sliver armor always targets a warrior. but a guildie just asked me to farm a necro tome for him, and since ive seen ppl talk about how easy woe spreader is to get, i figured id give it another shot, ne tips on how to kill him? thx in advance

DvM

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Vlaardingen, The Netherlands

Survivor Squad[SS]

01 Jul 2007 at 21:31 - 56

Quote:
Originally Posted by FrAnt1c²
Byzzr wingmender goes faster if you use Spoil Victor and Empathy + Ignorance = win

KANE OG

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ogmios Graybeards

W/

03 Jul 2007 at 01:28 - 57

Quote:
Originally Posted by KANE OG
No way... in hard mode? How the hell can you pull those guys with an E/A and not get killed or lose aggro? Please enlighten me!

KANE I need an answer here, so I'm quoting myself for a bump.

KANE

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

W/

03 Jul 2007 at 02:03 - 58

Just a question but how much are these things worth?

Elite Bushido

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

NY

RaiN

Rt/

03 Jul 2007 at 03:20 - 59

8-15k depending on which one

VorianVader

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Blitzers

W/N

03 Jul 2007 at 03:39 - 60

Quote:
Originally Posted by tmakinen
This is something I did just for the fun of it. The targets were divided 50/50 between my ele and necro.

My current estimate for the elite tome drop rate is about 3%, or less than half of the green drop rate. You are right about the drop rate. I have managed to get approximately twice as many greens as tomes on runs. An interesting fact which I noticed yesterday (may be its a coincidence), if I do a mission before commencing my runs, my drop rate is excellent for around 15 runs i.e. greens drop within the first three runs and tomes too. Then it tapers off until I go back and do some more missions. This corresponds with farming code which is supposed to have been removed? anyone have any idea on this?

oh_oh_joe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Power Surge [pS]

W/

03 Jul 2007 at 03:46 - 61

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Color Of Hope
The sin boss outside ran musu garden, I have no idea how to spell his name, his green is a starter green, but it has a max enchanting modd so idk, I also got a bunch of gold daggers he goes down in seconds, but I haven't gotten 1 tomb from him, yet I use a A/E I also farmed him for a long time with 55/sliver. Never got a tome from him, but got plenty of gold daggers.

DvM

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Vlaardingen, The Netherlands

Survivor Squad[SS]

03 Jul 2007 at 06:14 - 62

Quote:
Originally Posted by VorianVader
SNAP anyone have any idea on this? Yes, It hasen't been removed

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

03 Jul 2007 at 06:33 - 63

Farming for Elite Tomes is not worth it. With the high number of runs people did, they could as well farm elsewhere with potentially higher benefits.

KANE OG

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ogmios Graybeards

W/

03 Jul 2007 at 13:29 - 64

I think it's worth it. I want elite skills. Plus the number of UW passage scrolls I've gotten is ridiculous. Mindclouder FTW!

KANE

Deaths

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

11 Jul 2007 at 18:58 - 65

I made 100 tome runs. 80 on Buzzr 20 on Exuro

Greens 10 drops
Fow Scroll 1 drop
UW Scroll 1 drop
Gold Items 5 Drops
Elite tome 5 Drops

Just to say 1 Think on 80 Buzzr runs i got 1 Elite tome
On 15 Exuro runs (after that i made 5 more runs, so i made all in all 20 Exuro runs) i got 4 Elite tomes. More over i got from Exuro 3 Elite tomes in a row.

I used a 55 HP Mo/N with Spoil and need 20 secs to kill Exuro
and 55 HP N/ME with Spoil and Empathi and some other skills to kill Buzzr 19 secs.

Ares Ainia

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2007

Edinbugger, Scotland

New Order Of Blackhearts [NooB]

Rt/Me

12 Jul 2007 at 09:35 - 66

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deaths
55 HP N/ME with Spoil and Empathi and some other skills to kill Buzzr 19 secs. not to flame, but why use 55hp when he can't attack you due to the wall?

tmakinen

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

www.mybearfriend.net

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

E/

12 Jul 2007 at 09:46 - 67

I initially made the same conceptual mistake. Spoil Victor activates on attack, not on a successful hit, and the monster AI is not aware of terrain features that obstruct projectiles. Byzzr is a monk and thus uses ranged attacks, and the fact that the attacks are stopped by the wall doesn't prevent SV from doing its work. This must be the only case of a 55 build that doesn't need Prot Spirit

Antithesis

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

BrisneyLand

Sphincter Says [What]

W/

12 Jul 2007 at 14:54 - 68

Quote:
Originally Posted by tmakinen
This must be the only case of a 55 build that doesn't need Prot Spirit Not quite...I use a 55 W/N to farm Byzzr, Craw and Zarnas.

The combination of Awaken the Blood, Life Siphon, Spoil Victor and Price of Failure works a treat on Byzzr and Craw so any X/N or N/X will have no problems.

Craw and Zarnas behave much the same as Byzzr, however they can take awhile to patrol within agro behind a wall. To speed things along, take a bow for the pull. Beware that one hit from either one will kill a 55 in HM without PS. Hit Sprint, attack with a long or flatbow and run around the corner for the setup. With a +30 HP bow you'll survive one hit from Craw but not from Zarnas.

PoF doesn't work on Zarnas, but he spams Stone Daggers for double SV damage. He also likes to interrupt and knock you down using Gale - Dolyak Signet takes care of that, so a 55 SV W/N can be an effective build against these bosses. A D/N, E/N, N/D, N/E or N/W will also do the job so there are plenty of non-PS options out there, depending on the run

Deaths

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

12 Jul 2007 at 16:43 - 69

Why 55hp?

Answer:

Spoil Victory--Skill Deskription from Guildwiki:

For 5...17 seconds, whenever target foe attacks or casts a Spell on a creature with less Health, that foe loses 25...85 Health.

So guys if u go out with a 500+ life character and the Boss life drops -500, u will need another dmg skill to get the last strike. With a 55hp char u just need to sit in the backline and look how the noob KI kills himself.

Ares Ainia

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2007

Edinbugger, Scotland

New Order Of Blackhearts [NooB]

Rt/Me

12 Jul 2007 at 19:47 - 70

i r an idiot.

TY

silent but true

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

OOUS

N/E

31 Jul 2007 at 18:31 - 71

Thanks guys just been getting extra farm ideas for my 105 monk + 330 rit.

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

27 Aug 2007 at 01:15 - 72

Farmed all day different bosses, and got 5 greens, no tomes; some golds and scrolls too. Man, that tomes are hard!!

I really think farming tomes is not a good way to get gold in this game, anyway, I started just with the idea of use the tomes myself, not sell.

oh_oh_joe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Power Surge [pS]

W/

27 Aug 2007 at 02:47 - 73

I did about 20 runs a day for 2 days and never got a tome from byzzr. Head out today, do one run, get a tome. It isnt a consistent way to make money IMO

Thermoblaze

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Croatia

New Dragons[NDR]

Mo/

27 Aug 2007 at 18:44 - 74

will try this builds with 55 hp Mo/N

ty

darc111

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

Rule The World [KiRa]

A/

29 Aug 2007 at 22:50 - 75

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Color Of Hope
The sin bos outside ran musu garden, I have no idea how to spell his name, his green is a starter green, but it has a max enchanting modd so idk, I also got a bunch of gold daggers he goes down in seconds, but I haven't gotten 1 tomb from him, yet I use a A/E his daggers aren't max enchating

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

29 Aug 2007 at 23:10 - 76

Indeed they drop very very very rarly

Bap

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Virtuosic

E/Me

31 Aug 2007 at 15:28 - 77

Can someone post the build template for E/A if its not too much hassel, cheers

And does anyone know a few boses which are near outposts to save time running miles

T1Cybernetic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Wakefield, West Yorkshire, Uk, Nr Earth

Alternate Evil Gamers [aeg]

N/

31 Aug 2007 at 15:49 - 78

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bap

Can someone post the build template for E/A if its not too much hassel, cheers

And does anyone know a few boses which are near outposts to save time running miles This is the one i have been using, should be the right one: OgdTgmE/5RnZM4hnDXBurBOBBA

drupal

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

24 Sep 2007 at 23:14 - 79

Any advice which boss is good if I want a Assassin Elite Tome?

tmakinen

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

www.mybearfriend.net

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

E/

25 Sep 2007 at 06:28 - 80

If you check the previous page, you'll find a laundry list of 10 bosses and farming builds (and a compilation of screenshots showing an elite tome of each profession dropping from the respective bosses).

Darkroot Entrop is a trivial farm for an E/A or A/E and provides a nice pair of daggers as well.