Does anyone even bother "questing" anymore?

I think the main reason GW suffers from the "I don't have anything to do" syndrome so bad is that quests are simply useless. Anet, wake up and realize that experience points are absolutely meaningless to anyone not going for the survivor title. Make some sort of incentive to actually go "questing" with friends, because as far as I'm concerned questing is dead in GW. Questing is one of the most casual ways to have fun in the game, but the rewards are absolutey laughable.
Think about this, a 'good' quest reward is something like
-200 gold
-~2000 exp
-Generic trade in item (ie luxon totem, battle commendation, etc.)

Ok, since a quest actually takes some time to complete, the 200g is the worst way to waste your time unless you were standing in your guild hall for 15 minutes... Why can't Anet actually give us a reason to do quests, because there is no way you can tell me the insane quests in the realm of torment are meant to help you level up. Why not give cool items, a decent amount of gold (~750g minimum), or maybe more trade in items besides freaking salvage kits. Maybe Anet could do something else, like add a title to number of -non repeatable- quests your character has completed? An adventurer title of some kind, maybe give you access to "elite quests" with better rewards that can only be undertaken with a certain rank of adventurer title. All I am saying is PLEASE Anet take this into consideration and give us something to do with those millions of quests we have long since given up on... honestly...

This has been complained about a lot. I still do all quests because I can't stand having things uncompleted. However, I do hate doing them because It'd be a lot moe productive doing something else, I just have to do them because I hate not doing them more.

You mean abusing reward XP to level some random hero? .... only if the quest is fast

I quite enjoy doing some of the quests. I mean the ones that aren't simply FedEx quests. It would be nice getting a bit extra for doing them, like better rewards or a title, but what I would really really like to see is some quests that really make you think. Ones that don't just tell you where to go, but you have to figure out for yourself (like those wintersday ones where you have to go to all those towns to get items, except they should actually give hints as to where to go).

yep that is precisely the problem with quests, the rewards are stupid. prophecies had it right with skill and weapon rewards, I don't know why they killed in in factions and nightfall

I take trade contracts any day tx.
And no, i'm not going to sell them to anyone.

I thinks all quests are fairly amusing, exept maybe "Bushel of trouble" wich is boring.

Once I reach level 20, and don't need to level any heroes, the only quests I do are the ones that give trade contracts. The rest are a waste of time. Anet needs to drasticaly increase the rewards, at least 500 to 2000 gold.

lol @ Bushel of Trouble.

I do quests quite frequently, I tend to do Vabbian ones in preference to others for the Trade Contracts...now I've bought one set of Vabbian it's time to save for another.

I don't find the quests in the realm of torment too bad tbh, the one Masters Level quest where you get Lynched when you go into Nightfallen Jahai is a bit harsh...but I've spent an hour or so going through the Domain of Fear completing quests, incluidng Master Level ones and they're not hard, or take any more time than some other quests really.

Greater rewards would be nice I s'pose...not sure about a title for it...since "Mallyx the Unyielding" is technically a quest, which I highly doubt I'll ever be able to do.

I agree that skills and weapons would be a good reward, without increasing the amount of gold in the game which is something they don't want to do. If you had skills as rewards, I would definately do more quests, as it stands I can't be bothered unless I want Jadite or amber then I'll occasionally do some of the faction quests, or if I need to get faction for one side or the other up if I"m going through factions.

Or instead of giving up a pre-set skill, a "skill token" which you trade with the skill trader for a skill of your choice would be nice.

Little bit like a tome I suppose but it would allow you to get a skill that you don't have unlocked, since it would be a trade with the skill trader.

questing....do it everyday.
With 12 active toons I dont have the cash to buy all those skills and thru questing I get the cash and the xp so I can get all the skills.....currently I need another 500plat to finish off all the skills I need to buy....so quests are the way to go. And my newest toons always do the tyrian skills quests when possible--thats another 16 skills per profession plus the xp and junk they pick up along the way, every little bit helps!


so yeah, questing all the way....

Yeh, something should definitly be done to quests... I think the title is a very nice motivation for ppl to do more quests, and definitly a better reward would help too. Since there are so many quests, the activity of players would for sure go up, not only because of the title, but also because of the rewards.

For example... We are in Droknar's Forge... So all the quests there should give (as a reward) materials that could be used to forge the armor in Droknar's Forge. And in every city with an armor/weapon crafter should go like this. About the other citys, maybe adding some more gold and variable inscriptable weapons in the reward?

naah i'd rather get pre-set skills... taking a new quest and going "oooh i wonder what skills this will give me" was quite enjoyable back in prophecies

I played Prophecies for 1 1/2 years before finally getting Factions a month ago. One difference I see and don't care for in Faction's quests is that there is very little skill reward quests. I think there's only a few here and there on Shea Jing Monastary.

Skill reward quests were my main incentive for doing them in Prophecies. Of course by the time your taking your 2nd, 3rd, 4th....nth character through the game it becomes more "ho hum", but those are the types of quests I miss. Factions quests are a sort of a joke with all the 2000XP quests. I miss prophecies and the slow leveling. It seems ridiculous to level up to 20 so fast. So of course quests are gonna seem so lame if you max out so fast.

I have to agree the Quests that gave skills were considerably more appealing to players to do, Anet should really allow more free skills, i understand the core professions dont get many in Factions or NF but the new professions for that campaign should still get a good number of Free skills.

I still enjoy doing quests and although i often dont have time to do them anymore i still managed to do the odd few here and there and the rewards from them (the xp, items and money) are pretty good except from some of the Masters Quests that really need their rewards increased.

a nice balance between gold rewards, things like cournan coins/battle commendations etc, and skills would really be nice. I'm taking my derv through proph and everything is like 400 exp and some junk weapon (which sucks) and the occasional skill (yay)
going through vabbi is pretty sweet -- I have over 200 contracts saved up, and the gold rewards are nice.

It was to get people to make their own choices of skills and not just use the ones given to them.

Now what if they added an NPC in the sanctuary, the gate to the desolation and the gate of torment to trade kournan koins, anciend relics and inscribed secrets for gems?

And if that would inflate the number of rubies to much, make it something else.

Ecto's in ROT anyone?

*shrug* if all skills are obtainable through a quest, and theres only 8 skill slots... i'd say theres still a lot of choice involved eh?

Skill rewards for quests was (and is) exactly the way to go.

Prophecies got it right with slow levelling, and gradual introduction of skills. You'd play for a few hours with one bar, you'd be given a new skill, you'd try it out and see how you can develop your build with it. Maybe it would stay and maybe it would make way for something else, but you'd have at least learned how to use it. In this way, you really learnt to play the class.

Factions and Nightfall were pitched at people making perhaps their 3rd, 4th or 5th characters and have been made so you advance quickly, and most of the content is Level 20 so you can use your existing maxed-out characters. This is very understandable.

The only annoying thing is that I've made a Dervish in Nightfall, a completely new class, and rather fiddly and not for newcomers IMHO. I've been given very few skill rewards so have had to buy almost everything (and it isn't long before you hit that dreaded 1 Platinum per skill). This really doesn't encourage you to try stuff out, in fact you are picking skills off a list at a Skill Trainer, trying to imagine them and how they might synergize with others (always a bad way to do it - nothing better than having the actual skill in your bar). To get a few skills you're burning up 5 plat and may just keep one or two of them for regularly-used builds. As a result, you are disincentivised to learn the class, the potential of the class, and to invent your own builds - instead the natural reaction is to fire up wiki and pick a cookie-cutter build, just buy the skills you need for that, and use it for ever and ever. Boooo! This is not good! Skills are too freakin' expensive!

Overall in response to the OP, I would tend to agree, although like a subsequent poster, something obsessive with me makes me want to obtain, complete and never abandon quests. I do have a Legendary Survivor and that character tends to have a nearly-empty Quest Log. The only thing that sticks in there is Villany of Galrath which I am kind of thinking of doing on Hard Mode for a laugh. :P

The quests that give Faction, Sunspear/Lightbringer Points, Trade Contracts or Unlock Heroes are indeed worthy. The ones like the OP says that are in high-level areas, and just give XP and a pitiful amount of gold...well these really are only of interest to the completists. It would be nice to make them more worthwhile, and something like Skill Rewards wouldn't hurt. Maybe even Elite skills? Although this would be a major change.

Thank you. I was just about to edit my above post with that point but you said it for me

I do all quests will all my chars.

People that can't be bothered to do quests probably would be better off playing a different game.

EDIT:

And a big *sigh* to people bringing up the ANCIENT subject of "skill rewards" - HELLO, you get hero skills points you can use those to get skills for YOURSELF.

In both Factions and Nightfall you can get skills you actually want because you can pick them yourself and not rely on some quest giving you a semi-useless skill. The prophecies system will cost you comparatively MORE than the other ones considering the low monetary rewards in Prophecies (but why am I saying this anyway, people apparently don't get it anyway).

Prophecies gave a fixed set of skills in a certain order.

yeah... you start out with a few skills and your list grows as you complete more quests and soon you have a huge list of skills to choose from...

i guess an alternative they could try is give you a random skill you don't have from both of your classes, along with a decent gold amount...

I liked the old skill rewards. While the Hero trainers are cool and all (very nice addition in fact), I would like quests to reward me in skills or (past a certain point in each campaign) capsigs.

I used to do quests back in Prophecies, they gave skills and were more fun. Faction and Nightfall quests are soooo tedious, useless, boring, and non-rewarding. I mean, yeah, i get 100 gold for doing a quest which takes 30min to do. Wow!

If the game rewarded NORMAL fun gameplay instead of farming, then we would have:
1) real rewards for quests
2) real rewards for completing the mission EACH time (such as when helping a friend)
3) gold rewards in PvP areas (this one would need to be implemented carefully)


Actually, how viable is farming now with the new loot thingie?

Whenever I see a quest with 2000 exp and 200 gold as reward, I abandon it unless it's a primary quest. I wouldn't even help anyone do them. They're just useless.

Now if there was a 10 platinum reward and a green max item or piece of rare armor (complete, wearable piece, not rare crafting materials or similar crap), I would definitely think twice.

23 months ago i quested because i thought i had to its a part of the game then i gained more experience and learned questing is the biggest waste of time in gw unless it can be exploited for the means of farming.

Wow.. I couldn't have said it better myself. I wish that we could trade in all those other rewards like the Ancient Artifacts and such for better items other than scrolls, Id and salvage kits and the like. I wish they all had something more worthy like the Trade Contracts do with the Rubies and Sapphires.

We just need better rewards. More gold, cool items. Questing SHOULD be a deep and thrilling part of the game, but for 200 gold, why bother? Also, make a quester title. Please do it Anet :-)

I'd like an ability to buy skills for more skill points but less money. I have a ton of extra skill points I'll never be able use, but what if I could use, say 10 of them to get a skill without any gold? Now extra experience would be (more) useful...

Great idea IMO. Especially for acquiring non-elite skills. I think it would be nice to spend Faction points on more things as well. Don't get me wrong, I would not let people trade Faction for things that would upset the economy. As it stands now you can only either trade it for Amber/Jade, Elite mission Scrolls, or give it to your Alliance. Whoopee. Maybe if I could trade it for Id kits, salvage, non-elite skills or something. I dunno....

I did questing for the sake of it...

The rewards are absolutely pathetic, especially some of the Master quests. Some of these f*cking quests should be giving you a 5000 gold reward, anyone attempted 'The Troubled Keeper' recently? The Realm of Torment master quest.

The second quest in a short line of quests, the first is moronic enough as it is and pretty much forces you to res shrine kill everything until its over (i usually just enter with 0 monks because its not worth the effort). The second, holding up against large armies of Torment/Margonites from both sides while protecting the worlds weakest and dumbest NPC. The reward.... 400 gold. F*ck that!

That and of course after doing some of these quests i then found out that they're good farming spots... couple of weeks after doing Turai's Procession on my Ranger it becomes known that its a great spot for Barrage/Splinter farming...

I rarely bother questing these days and usually only when I need to level up. From Factions/Nightfall viewpoint I really see no reason anymore since there are only a handful of quest types available.

1. Go to the most remote location in the map and kill a huge mob.
2. Go to the most remote location in the map and bring something back while hoping it doesn't die of sheer stupidity on the way back.
3. Make a criss-cross tour of killing several huge mobs while eventually making your way to the most remote location on the map where you face the final mob.

Taking into consideration the general monster density (ie "can't really make out the map from all the little red dots") and the ridiculously low rewards I'd rather be less of a hero and not strain my nerves when Devona decides to multi-aggro yet again.

So moar ph47 l00t plz Anet ggthx!

Well I went back and did every Kouran & Vabbi Quest that I either picked up but never did or never picked up and made 22.5k. This is not counting drops, or trading the Trade contracts for Rubies or other trade items for Expert Salvage kits. About to start Desolation quests. Now all the "casual players" that keep complaining that they can't make money now, I'm sure you have more then 1 character on your account. For example I have 10. 22.5k X 10 = 225k and again that's just Kourona & Vabbi, it will be even more when you add in Desolation & Tourment realms, and Canthan quests. You people complain you can't make money then scoff at an easy way to make some because "it's not enough". Give me a break.

I think the OP brings up an EXCELLENT point that A-net should really take a look at. There are some good, fun quests out there that most people never do, because there's really no profit from it. I honestly think A-net should do three things about this:

1) As mentioned, make the quest rewards a LOT better than they are now. Skill tokens are a good idea I believe. It will not only give more incentive to do quests, but allow newer players to the game to get the skills they need to progress and experiment with different skills. As it stands right now, it's hard for new Factions and Nightfall players to get much skill experimentation due to skill cost and low amount of skills given at the beggining of a new character.

2) Make a title to be achieved by doing all quests. It really surprised me when this didn't become a title when the title system was introduced and I think it is way overdue.

3) Put a little more effort into variety in quests. Simple running around quests get very monotonous very quickly, but quests that do new things or use creativity (such as Koss's Elixir) really make the experience a lot more enjoyable.


@ Sol Deathgard: I think the real question at hand is how long did it take you to do all those quests? 22.5k can be made pretty quickly from just farming for a little while...

I liked it when they had skill rewards...

Quartermaster items just aren't the same...

Not only do I "bother" questing, I also watch all the cut scenes, at least the first time, more if they are funny. Like Rurkik and the King arguing. The king says, "you are no longer my prince and no longer my son!"

I've always wanted to have a title for quest completion. Of course I dread the moment when they create it and I see I've done 199 of 200 quests.... now where was it in all of the continent that I didn't stand still long enough to hear some NPCs talk about a bogey monster so that I could get the quest to go kill it. Its not like I can just take a screen shot of my map and compare it with others!

So if we do get a title for quest completion, I'd love to have a list of all the quests I've completed!

I like doing all the quests at least once. The dialogue is quite amusing sometimes. As for rewards, a system of tokens that can be exchanged for a selection of basic goods (materials, dyes, minor runes and non max weapon mods) would be better than the current rewards.